mircea_popescu: a that sore spot. well ideally we find out once the usg finally and publicly admits to having been owned, painfully and humiliatingly.
mircea_popescu: lol i'm going to die as the lord of repartee
pete_dushenski: on the 10th nao
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i was keeping up until the 16 hours of flights and subsequent catching up with people/work
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: jesus canucks are tought. << lol at least the ones here
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski seriously tho, that's when it begins, when the blog's a tool of self expression.
pete_dushenski: and ty to mircea_popescu and ThickAsThieves for the kind comments :)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and yes, the bathroom is "#1 hotspot"
pete_dushenski: but that's not even just the kids, most "adults" from here as well
mircea_popescu: you know where everyone really goes ? to the fucking toilet. what reason to pick a vacation in the bathroom is that!
pete_dushenski: answer: "because i hadn't been there"
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, im entertained. and riga looks great, nobody thinks of it as a vacation destination, but i don't recall ever hating it there.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski dude is giving himself as an example. the funny thing is that wordpress has a comment index, trilema is over 100k, his blog was 5k, but hey. HE rules.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski great lol, reading the ro derpage of some guy explaining everyone how trilema is dead because "it has no comments"
pete_dushenski: how goes the battle?
RagnarDanneskjol: hiya pete - how goes the trip
BingoBoingo: It seems like with Stanton's lead in the Home Run race, he could still finish the season with the most.
mircea_popescu: well in that case injury after solid performance is by far the best he could do
BingoBoingo: Usually it is the guys with better numbers beating popular guys
BingoBoingo: It's a voted thing the people with the best measurements usually win, but some years it gets controversial
mircea_popescu: what do you mean doesn't log them
BingoBoingo: If it would have happened last month he'd be out of the race. Happening this month... Prolly too late to derail.
rithm: my channel status changes, but i have to search the buffer and I'm too lazy for that
BingoBoingo: Well there isn't much season left and he's been that dominant. Prolly out until next year at least though. Lacerations, broken bones, broken teeth reported this morning...
mircea_popescu: i'm iiignorant, i thought it was the kiss o' death
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I was hoping some people might try to guess the extent of the injuries. I dun think this late in the season it really affects his MVP chances. Dude has a solid lead on that.
mircea_popescu: the result ? pressure increased to 8 kids per place.
mircea_popescu: lmao romanians are total fuckwits. so : in 2008, the pressure on local journalism university programmes was 6-7 teenagers per place. five years later, two thirds of local media outlets went out of business, aggregate local media audience dropped to a third (not by a third!) and virtually all professional journalists that were clueless enough to have been left started streetwalking on the side.
mircea_popescu: "If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it, then how bad of a decision can it really be?"
mircea_popescu: mike_c: i printed out the source code 3 years ago and i retype it into each server i want to run nginx on to ensure no problems. << laugh all oyu will but when i was a kid this was exactly how you did it.
mircea_popescu: also mike, sometime do some anal on the correlation between s.mpoe and http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ another fucking random variable right there
mircea_popescu: mike_c: more like shit that can go wrong while making sense of the request itself. grep nginx changelogs for the last four years for plentiful examples << but not the same can be said of apache, because those 4 years are in 1988, and consequently not on the "internet". which makes the point about "newer is better" in spades.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: just woke up from the post bang nap << gangbang ? pics ?
Namworld: Eh, not really. Day is the same lenght, regardless of sleeping hours
fluffypony: yeah just a pity that they use Google Code
assbot: BlueWallet: The Secure Bitcoin Wallet - Springer
xmj: well, the idea is that you maintain the port and then get infected by the maintainership virus.
fluffypony: you can create the port...since it compiles out the box it shouldn't need anything except fancy except pkg-descr, which I have already done
xmj: ben_vulpes: My Dev environment here on this laptop consists of NGINX, some php-fpm, some apache/mod_php, uwsgi and even some manage.py runserver (all at the same time)
assbot: Giancarlo Stanton Removed On Stretcher After Fastball To The Face
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that would be an even better solution. One could use my gps module to correct the long-term frequency variation of Rb oscillator
asciilifeform: decimation: get an Rb oscillator on 'ebay' or the like.
decimation: as for the short-term stability, I want to measure the phase noise with a proper lab instrument
decimation: which is why I got the tcxo option. the real solution would be to use it to long-term discipline an oxco
decimation: the device can be commanded to output pulses at arbitrary frequencies
ben_vulpes: which, as others have said, "i don't care about how many characters per minute my programmers can type, but whether they type the *right* characters"
ben_vulpes: when i was 14 i talked my cs teacher into letting me use the first chapter of text from cryptonomicon as my wpm benchmark
mike_c: i printed out the source code 3 years ago and i retype it into each server i want to run nginx on to ensure no problems.
decimation: I like the idea of sending a single udp packet as a request and receiving a stream of udp packets in reply
decimation: in general protocols are the devil
mike_c: more like shit that can go wrong while making sense of the request itself. grep nginx changelogs for the last four years for plentiful examples
decimation: true, but the universe of possible responses is greatly restricted
mike_c: still gotta process the http request.
mike_c: http is kinda hard. you're exposing yourself to untrusted input from the wild
decimation: why is it "popular" then?
ben_vulpes: the go situation doesn't even have a production ready wallet
ben_vulpes: you want complicated stupid broken and fucked up beyond all reason? come hang with the asseteers
ben_vulpes: what else is one to do when the application layer server authors say retarded shit like
decimation: seems to me that the list of alternatives is growing
TheNewDeal: and the post bang nap?
TheNewDeal: how was the bang nap?
ben_vulpes: just woke up from the post bang nap
mircea_popescu: kinda the idea, yea.
asciilifeform: one caveat with using addresses - 'decoder' must not rely on the garbage addr's balance never moving on own volition. one might, at any time, end up producing an addr to which someone has a key.
asciilifeform doesn't give enough of a damn to crunch the numbers
mircea_popescu: but anyway, a discussion for other times!
mircea_popescu: it's not clear that wasting the tx fees for a very narrow space (ie, the amt) is actually cheaper than wasting the min tx for wider space (the address
asciilifeform: my understanding is that for your application, the payload is very small, and 'shooting coin into the sun' in an open loop system - suffices.
punkman: is this a scam? "Look there's a fucking system!"
assbot: MoneyPot.com -- The Social Gambling Game
punkman: I was playing a bit at moneypot.com (dice thingy), then I saw this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709185.msg8776834#msg8776834
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490&cpage=1#comment-16768 << great masters of not-getting-the-point, at work
mircea_popescu: the notion that romanian borrowed anything whatsoever from romales is beyond ridiculous anyway. maybe took back whatever the gypos stole at some point, and that at the very most.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it just means woman. most speakers wouldn't notice the relation and im probably going to get inundated with hatemail in the morn
thestringpuller: seal the original cart in a bag
thestringpuller: i should just buy a Wii-U and get the downloadable version to play for 15 bucks
thestringpuller: so external ports long with the leads? I'm not well versed in electrical engineering unfortunately.
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2014 18:52:57; asciilifeform: it doesn't have to be a coin cell, either. can attach one of, say, these - http://www.ictradenet.com/models_pic/BH2AA-W.jpg - to outside of cartridge. drill a hole, attach terminals to correct spots. won't win any beauty contests, but will work.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: as described earlier
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: do you think there is a way to have an externally chargeable battery as "save" battery on video game cartridges
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/f26ac8f8aaa82ec58ed70e3976dfe457/tumblr_mvqutdrHlR1sq388oo1_400.gif << and here's stoya, doing what she does (ie, setting the mark for performance)
asciilifeform: typical scheme of apparatus used there.
asciilifeform: the fellow who built it may or may not have been a tattooist in russian prison.
asciilifeform is quite confident in the reverse-engineered scheme above.
asciilifeform: on 2nd look, the blue cylindrical object is a dc motor.
asciilifeform: and nice lathework. respekt.
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/482efd86111bd9cfe13ee302465639de/tumblr_mz1uqaPhkc1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg << and the spark of life.
asciilifeform: therewego, cooking with gas.
mircea_popescu: the difference'd be rinduieli can be rationally defended, datini are not.
mircea_popescu: a million before the fiat inflation of human population, back when they still had hard people, and a limited supply worldwide
mircea_popescu: the bloodiest massacre in human history, a million or so killed over a few weeks.
mircea_popescu: perhaps not since the razing of ur
mircea_popescu: which means long supressed passion will finally prevail, in a razing of city halls the world has never seen
mircea_popescu: the interesting thing here is that no longer is the city hall the seat of power. the irc channel is the seat of power.
asciilifeform: t, shops, warehouses. The crowd has - a correct instinct. It would like to destroy the city - the citadel of power of the political and economic kind - the root cause of its travails. The crowd is stopped in its tracks by those who have plans for the city hall, for the presidential palace. We will not stop the crowd.' (Limonov, 'The Other Russia.') - translation mine.
asciilifeform: 'Take a look in History, flip through her pages. The first action in revolutions of recent history -- the erection of barricades. They'll smash the cobble stones of the street, dig them out, and block off the road with them. They'll stop cars, buses, fill the street with bricks. And also they'll attack, plunder, raze, and put to the torch the city hall, administrative buildings, presidential palace, parliamen
mircea_popescu: there's little worse fate than having to take over and continue using with the present tools.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves when you confront an organised enemy, your options are two. either beat him but preserve his tools, which locks you into ruling in his stead, or else beat him and destroy his tools, which locks you into rebuilding.
mircea_popescu: seems to me he instinctively applied the correct solution from perhaps an untenable position
mircea_popescu: in contemporary english, it is the duty of any thinking person to be as offensive as the context will carry.
mircea_popescu: it only works in the first place because of a very narrow overton window achieved over decades of lazy prosperity.
mircea_popescu: the more people saying nigger and proposing rape as a solution to minute problems, the less effectual this teflon process is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what document worth the mention could get any traction on 'reddit' (today's, not circa '07, say) ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, for what it's worth, in my mind the correct approach to this problem is radical, corrosive antiteflon.
mircea_popescu: sucks for merlin, he who was here when each was born, and will be here to see them buried.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'logic' presumably being, you must 'go with' the humans or the orcs, tertium non datur.
mircea_popescu: i'm still reeling over the realisation that someone, somewhere, thinks im pro russian.
asciilifeform: the example jurov (inadvertently) gave us - is instructive. someone succeeded in 'tefloning' the 'juvenile justice' thing before it entered his brain.
mircea_popescu: "this thing is written as if the soviet party isn't legitimate" < o noes and enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are many applicable 'teflons.'
mircea_popescu: there's a long and growing list of things you can do to a text to make it completely inaccessibl for the "right thinking" person.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's more to this than just that. i've had an intern puit a bunch of trilema articles in reddit, across dozens of different subreddits. NONE stick. they're all "wrong", then the complainants get laughed out, then the matter dies.
ThickAsThieves: i like that the putin drawing is a scanned bar napkin or sumth
mike_c: the atlantic is trying to steal my bitcoin
asciilifeform: one of the more 'high tech' and interesting 'state media' tricks is to spray on a coating of 'conspiratorial Teflon' to an otherwise genuine piece of dirt
jurov: there's difference between indigenous conspirations like www.universe-people.com and stuff did by state media
mike_c: da fuck with that atlantic article. i tried it in 3 browsers and it crashed them all.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bantustan | Literally: The Ghetto, the Worst of Urban Decay, the hardest of the hard hood. A bantustan (also known as black African homeland or simply homeland...
asciilifeform: as the anglo empires get swept from the stage, the bantustans they created with heroic strokes of pencil will go away. arabian, soviet, wherever.
mircea_popescu: it's just, you know... they'r ebored
ThickAsThieves: <+mike_c> tea leaves came up empty /// i guess i was probly only paying attention to price at the time, maybe that was the .5 zone, shortly after my comments it totally decoupled
mircea_popescu: time to split, unless you somehow discover some passion for one side or the other and a desire to go to shooting practice.
asciilifeform: ask the conspirators to quit conspiring. that'd have a chance of fixing.
mircea_popescu: popes don't lie, they're just infallible and impeccable.
asciilifeform likes to show americans 'the venerable ancient Ukrs' - is almost never believed, even when rubbing their nose in primary source
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude imagine for the sake of science fiction, a putin that didn't lie. like, ever. he'd be spotless like warm milk foam.
mircea_popescu: katyn or auschwitz, what's the big difference.
asciilifeform: living where 'this shit' is grown, packaged, and flown out for export is not particularly thrilling either.
mircea_popescu: xmj they're allies you know.
jurov: slovakia is mentioned there for a reason
mircea_popescu: me mocking her for the "oh my" lulz doesn't mean i am in favour of cattle shitting in cookpots.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it mostly works for the target audience. to most folks in usa, who are literate in no foreign languages, never travel except on official orders, etc. - if not thrown in their face, fact does not exist.
mircea_popescu: lemme model this. suppose we go out for a picnic, and suppose we're there with some girls, and suppose a cow comes and shits in our cornmeal pot. and suppose one of the girls goes "oh my!"
mircea_popescu: but it's not what i said. i merely remarked on a particular mental complex, wherein the western agitprop calls things they don't like and can't derride "inexistent" a certain way
jurov: i indeed have a hard time with your insistence that everything out there is an overactive imagination of western journos
asciilifeform: so perhaps enemy does not bayonet babies and eat them under white sauce. he merely strangles them humanely and reprocesses into Garboil.
mircea_popescu: but yes it does exist : the eu state will, under a multitude of pretexts, steal children.
jurov: and now the nocsense is suddenly presented as fact and i have to convince half of my facebook friends
asciilifeform: 'prior to Americans' gay rights agitation, Russian gays used to be called faggots; now they are being called American faggots, and gay rights in Russia have taken a giant leap back.' - orlov
mircea_popescu: of course it'd fly along with whatever the french, the english and so forth figure out.
mircea_popescu: jurov it's only nonsense in the form presented. otherwise, the eu does believe it has jurisdiction over children above and beyond that of the family.
asciilifeform: the 'queers' angle is sprayed on by western journarasts.
asciilifeform: jurov: nope. in russia, people have successfully resisted, for the most part, the 'civilized' western notion that the crown has business taking children.
mircea_popescu: "putin doesn;t understand how the world works"
jurov: that will take kids away from heteros and give them to queers
mircea_popescu: assbot> Russia and the Menace of Unreality - The Atlantic << gotta love the english agitprop, this entire "the gauls don't really exist so clearly they couldn't be at the gates" thing.
jurov: i see here that horrible disinfo leaking from the east
asciilifeform: proud >> of 'the atlantic.'
xmj: or maybe not; they're slavs.
jurov: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/russia-putin-revolutionizing-information-warfare/379880/?single_page=true
mike_c: looking at any reasonable timeframe it is nothing. I tried to force it. took just the last few months, removed some of the recent dip/spikes, and got it up to 0.5
mike_c: i don't know about stand alone, but it is when combined with the exchange rate in any fashion.
mircea_popescu: mike_c there's always ~some~ correlation. since you did the math anyway, what is it ?
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: by the way, i did some rounds of correlation analysis. s.mpoe continues to defy explanation. there is certainly no correlation to the exchange rate.
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.09 TH/s
assbot: Police training firms teaching helps fuel rise in cash seizures on U.S. highways | The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: so they're really that poor.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> are us folk really that poor ? << Cash averse. Love their plastic
asciilifeform: http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/09/police-seizure-black-asphalt-network << apparently, 'asphalt' sells subscription to a db of who is best to plunder and where to find them.
mircea_popescu: I got a receipt and an affidavit indicating the amount seized and why. I petitioned the court for the return of my money and the court denied me saying that possession of that much cash constituted probable cause of drug activity and that I should be happy not to be in jail for drugs."
mircea_popescu: I got pulled over in Nebraska and when I was getting my license out of my wallet the officer saw a $100 bill in there and ended up confiscating the $400 I had on me as suspected drug money without ever arresting me or even charging me with a crime.
asciilifeform: you can apparently buy... shirts and screw-drivers there.
asciilifeform: 'It involves a nationwide network of enforcement agencies (except in the few states that have banned it) that operates with the help of a vast private intelligence service called Black Asphalt'
mircea_popescu: The CBC is warning Canadians about a U.S. program where America law enforcement officers from federal agents to state troopers right down to sheriffs in one-street backwaters are operating a vast, co-ordinated scheme to grab as much of the public's cash as they can through seizure laws.
assbot: American shakedown: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money - World - CBC News
asciilifeform: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-but-they-ll-grab-your-money-1.2760736 << lol
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=2#comment-16766 << loltron! flamefest from '09 still going strong. they never, ever get tired.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/11/emanuel_cleaver_molotov_cocktail_black_missouri_congressman_s_office_targeted.html
RagnarDanneskjol: i only communicate that which is critical as concisely as possible. sorry, dont know any other hiring managers using irc, so
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - to be clear, do you want me to dump all that unit testing data to the logs? or just leave it alone and hope it comes out right?
mircea_popescu: i do it all the time. "he's x y z looking to k". not really that big a deal.
mircea_popescu: yes, the log does. it helps me too, so.
asciilifeform: 'some more equal than others' (tm)
mircea_popescu: i suppose serbia should bomb the us now.
mircea_popescu: lmao security concerns indeed. "if anyone not working for the usg found out what we do in thhis here so called "courthouse" they'd prolly set us all on fire"
mircea_popescu: The tape's existence, first reported by The Salt Lake Tribune Wednesday, came to public light five months after federal authorities who watched the tape cleared the marshal of wronging. "
mircea_popescu: Around 60 percent of Bitcoin trading is against the Chinese yuan, 32 percent is against the dollar and 3 percent against the euro, the BoE said. /// see what wahsing does << "we read something on a tripod homepage and now believe this is the world"
asciilifeform: then uninteresting
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2014 05:21:05; asciilifeform: idea was, you send, e.g. some btc to addr A, in n parcels. low bits of the parcels encode, e.g. an ltc address. to which the corresponding amount of ltc is then sent.
nubbins`: see if there's any interest
ThickAsThieves: was in the stamp club
BingoBoingo: The problem with Baseball cards was them emulated the utility of stamps too much, but without understanding why stamps got so expensive for the rarities
nubbins`: ahaha, the 90s
ThickAsThieves: they probly dont even keep up with inflation
ThickAsThieves: look at them now
ThickAsThieves: when i was a kid, the elder generation thought baseball cards were good investments
ThickAsThieves: any collectible is at the mercy of its popularity
TomServo: Doh, I missed the 'in btc' part - for shame.
TomServo: I've wondered about this too - what are the arguments against guns, jewelry, land?
nubbins`: actually, i can't think of any other examples where the value of something in btc steadily increases over time
ThickAsThieves: "A significant risk to digital currencies' sustained use (is) that they will not be able to compete on cost without degenerating ... to a monopoly miner, thereby ... exposing them to risk of system-wide fraud," the BoE said.
nubbins`: so far the market has been completely ignoring fluctuations in exchange rates
ThickAsThieves: Around 60 percent of Bitcoin trading is against the Chinese yuan, 32 percent is against the dollar and 3 percent against the euro, the BoE said. /// see what wahsing does
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: the edge you have to walk with casascius coins is btc value vs fiat value
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/11/us-britain-boe-bitcoin-idUSKBN0H61ID20140911 funny i read the BoE thing and got a positive impression
mircea_popescu: matters not. still gotta cover for the bets you make
ThickAsThieves: xbond and nam's bond did ok in the end
mircea_popescu: to cover for the risk of ruin.
asciilifeform: same as the ancient question 'why does god need a starship'
asciilifeform never understood why these needed investment
mircea_popescu: ie, you could bankroll them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the investment side.
mircea_popescu: i suppose satoshi dice too, in a marginal sorta sense "either you sold at a profit or held for no loss" sorta thing
mircea_popescu: jd is in there too
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ThickAsThieves: those bars and coins are like the best btc investment ever
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2014 20:49:27; asciilifeform: turns out that the instrument i proposed for raping casascius coins is available commercially:
mircea_popescu: the 14k coin ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves afaik there's a liquidity bot, and im sure you can get better leverage elsewhere.
ThickAsThieves: whats that go for these days?
nubbins`: probably the wrong crowd around for this, but any interest in a 2012-funded 25btc casascius coin w/ pgp docs?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, if you manage to get through the hoops on davout's exchange you can practically trade the eur
ThickAsThieves: i think part of the bfx shenanigans lie in how they display one decimal place for USD in orderbook, but allow orders to specify 2 places
mircea_popescu: i like mcdonalds otherwise too :D
ThickAsThieves: miles better than any other exchange
mircea_popescu: well otherwise what's not to like.
ThickAsThieves: i do like bfx otherwise tho
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i won't without a submissive government, and then it'd be btc/that fiat.
nubbins`: kolinko remove the word "those"
nubbins`: BUT IF THEY'RE NO-FEE....
ThickAsThieves: all the chinese exchanges are no-fee
kolinko: ThickAsThieves: how is it heating up? where can I track news? (thx for answering all the basic questions)
ThickAsThieves: i watched these new chinese futures a lil and its basically being traded like btc, no real future sentiment at all