mircea_popescu: see, here's the problem. suppose i contract to deliver you x hash. your only way to measure this is by how many blocks you solve, or by how much work i ask for.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you can't. the pool doesn't actually know how much hash you do.
mircea_popescu: this is such bs. for one thing, dudes kinda love cocks, which is how all the faux gay stuff got started. for the other, all the women i know love the c0k.
mircea_popescu: "Female genital mutilation is a bigger problem than male genital mutilation because women love their vaginas and men love vaginas"
mircea_popescu: the problem with this thing is you can't fucking deliver hashes.
ThickAsThieves: not sure why to bother
ThickAsThieves: well they claim to actually mine
mircea_popescu: so basically they've just copied that havelock thing w/e it was
kakobrekla: so another short only cex like asset
mircea_popescu: maybe fart powered balloon to satisfy the south park canadian stereotype
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: 's quite vast. gargantua & pantagruel around the world in 80 days can even be done straight in french. for canadians. << would definitely enjoy this!
mircea_popescu: peterl well sure, that's entirely up to the market.
peterl: mircea_popescu: is it trading? it looks like there has been no activity since it was listed, and no asks?
mike_c: they banned assbot too! :)
gribble: Main/Older than They Look - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook>; OlderThanTheyLook/REALLIFE - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/OlderThanTheyLook/REALLIFE>; 10 Celebrities Who Are Older Than You Think | Women's Health ...: <http://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/celebrities-older-than-they- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google OlderThanTheyLook
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook << where does this take you ?
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't care specifically what they did, they're not paying me to consult. i just care i clicked a link in an article and it doesn't go now where it go when i put it there, so that's that : out goes the link and the venue is banned
pete_dushenski: jurov: “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” << this is dr. strangelove's mineshaft proposal, neh?
mike_c: you think they put in a mod_rewrite for trilema that redirects to homepage? that makes little sense.
assbot: The US partnering with Saudi Arabia to eradicate Islamic intolerance is equivalent to partnering with John Gotti to eradicate the mafia.
mircea_popescu: then derps started to edit articles, because hey, derps wanna be part of things, resulting in a marked decrease in quality over time. by now, derps are "managing" things, because hey, derp gotta derp.
mircea_popescu: but if you go to the same url directly it does not
mircea_popescu: jdanks yes, it is, quite clearly, because if you search for the page title and go from google it delivers it
pete_dushenski: ^Unique Option Pricing Measure With Neither Dynamic Hedging nor Complete Markets, by Taleb
mircea_popescu: sooo for some uncomp[rehensible reason, <a href=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook> from trilema does not lead to the page, but to the main page
mircea_popescu: 200k is just the beginning.
assbot: ABC "After These Messages We'll Be Right Back" Cowboy - 1988 Bumper - YouTube
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell jurov is it still causing havoc? i'm using the only coinbr referral code i have…
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nubbins`: selling weed is only cool in the eyes of teenage girls
mircea_popescu: WLL, the MLLnium generation ?
mircea_popescu: is this the new street cool btw ? weed, lolitas and linux ?
nubbins`: his btcjam profile has two "recommendations" from friends. the second one commences thus:
mircea_popescu: anyway, the queen totally fucking lost it. i mean seriously, capot inflorat with gloves and hat ?
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nubbins`: ;;google the cheese stands alone
nubbins`: putin is funnier the more i look
mircea_popescu: nah, she's like, being propositioned by the frenchies
nubbins`: calculating the fallout from a hard shove
mircea_popescu: why's obama being helped down the stairs lol
mircea_popescu: well i don't have the good hats.
mircea_popescu: the 13 yo sultan wrote to his long retired father, "if you are the sultan, come and lead the army. if i am the sultan, i command you to come and lead my army"
mircea_popescu: mkay. he was made a sultan at 13. the hungarians did some elaborate mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that breaking their treaty was not really breaking their treaty.
thestringpuller: the conquerer?
mircea_popescu: poster child for the puritan failure to create a worldview.
thestringpuller: notch is like the woz of games...
mircea_popescu: i know watsapp sold ~0, so there is that.
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mircea_popescu: wtf. what's wrong with those suckers, didn't they hear some shitty app sold for 120 bn ?
assbot: Microsoft confirms it will buy 'Minecraft' for $2.5 billion | The Verge
punkman: jdans, just brushing them should be better
jdanks: i've heard of a few grandmas who will just crack an egg straight into a pan and scoop the poop out if it falls in accidentally. gross that i've heard that more than once imo
jdanks: you take them as calcium supplements?
ben_vulpes: im mostly interested in the shell + external coating integrity
jdanks: ben_vulpes: jdanks: do you wash your eggs? << I rinse them with water and scrub them with a brush if there is shit or yolk from borked eggs. no bleachin or anything unnatural
artifexd: Oh. The [\\\\] dude
artifexd: There used to be a guy in here who's nick was [\\\] just to fuck with people.
decimation: I was wondering if the [] needed escaping
asciilifeform: decimation: where's the 'oven' ?
assbot: Push the Button Max! - YouTube
decimation: how does it have +v then?
artifexd: It isn't gribble authed
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
decimation: pci card with 10 mhz ocxo on board, plus all the logic to discipline to 1 pps input
mircea_popescu: 's quite vast. gargantua & pantagruel around the world in 80 days can even be done straight in french.
mircea_popescu: the space
mircea_popescu: if there's a wanna-be writer reading here, looking desperately for that divine spark of literary genius, that exceptional idea that'll drag him out of the muck of his anonimity into the glory of the parnassus :
assbot: xkcd • View topic - The Anti-Joke thread.
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, what's the big deal with pornhub lol.
TheNewDeal: I'm not saying they are integrating
mircea_popescu: "so i call the suicide helpline and they don't want to fucking help. they keep going about how they're there to help people NOT kill themselves. fucking scam. call it suicide fail line dudes!"
nubbins`: no doubt the entire thing was a lot of back-and-forth over semantics
nubbins`: from what little i know, it seems like they were essentially issuing mining bonds or similar
nubbins`: mircea_popescu yeah it seems like they just sort of gave it up rather than "what you guys are doing is okay" etc
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal looking for boarcock
jdanks: they were threatening to do so
X-Rob: but the rest doesn't sound that bad.
X-Rob: I'm not sure about the being beaten by sticks paart
chalbersma: it's Min then Max right?
jdanks: I assume animal control could make it illegal any day they want
jdanks: apparently in Los Angeles we have a city ordinance allowing animal control to dictate the minimum distance to be from a "dwelling", which is about 30 ft for hens and 100 ft for cocks
jdanks: kakobrekla they use to not be but they are now! not a certified farm so i can't sell at farmers markets but who needs those!
jdanks: Yes, and just incase the room didn't know I sell eggs for BTC. organic fresh chicken eggs. sometimes produce but not really (;
chalbersma: Okay I think I changed the max difficulty.
jdanks: you can just pop the solenoid with the wires that go to the zone control box and replace it with ours to control it with your iphone/android or web browser
jdanks: water i mean, oh! i hafta get our sprinkler solenoids to ya when we have them working and assembled
jdanks: weed'd be like 15 minutes a day 4 times a day, you can grow that anywhere but in the ground i'd start those march/april
jdanks: Roots or fruits like full sun. 12 hours for fruits if you can give it without scorching or drying out the plant
RagnarsBitch: Oh yes. Nice sized backyard for OC. 2 mins from the beach
jdanks: haha, yea they are outside birds. i'm sure we'd violate some kind of ordinance bringin them inside. of course the city'd hafta find out before your pups make a sweet supper outa them.
RagnarsBitch: I run a haxor sweatshop in my house, you're welcome anytime. Plenty of room for the chickens. Although not sure how they'll get along with the pups
X-Rob: I don't know this part of the code, but apparently in work.py, there's ' target = 2**256-1' which you can change to target = bitcoin_data.difficulty_to_target(2048)
X-Rob: chalbersma: In bitcoin.py, (if you didn't rename it, if you did, then you know what you're doing) look for SANE_TARGET_RANGE and change the '1000' to 1000000
X-Rob: yes, as the share difficulty is set at 1
X-Rob tries setting the share difficulty
chalbersma: X-Rob can you try using a higher manual difficulty. Add +<diff> after your address in the username field.
jdanks: mircea_popescu: jdanks so what is this valley ? << seems like a hippie commune for BTC only everything. I can't imagine how we would pay for our power or electricity but it seems like the guy behind it all wants to teach children the importance of engineering, electronics, and crypto, through having a whole town run/get paid in BTC or other.
RagnarsBitch: Geez rob. If you'd just built the pool like you said, we wouldn't be having this conversation
X-Rob: but I'm not even getting the web page.
X-Rob: then it just sent a connectionr eset
RagnarsBitch: Ok. Describe barely reachable..digi ocean says its been up the whole time
RagnarsBitch: Easy there rob
X-Rob: I don't think you understand the problem.
RagnarsBitch: It has to do with packet loss and pools not being designed for just a single miner. I know I've had these same issues anytime just one miner is active on a pool , then resolves as soon as a couple more come online
X-Rob: chalbersma: The miner is set up with that pool as priority one
X-Rob: aimed at /the p2pool network/ sorry
X-Rob: it appears that thepool just died.
X-Rob: RagnarsBitch: What does the number of miners have to do with it? The share value is calculated based on the hash rate aimed at the pool.
RagnarsBitch: What's the address again chalbersma?
RagnarsBitch: If anyone in here has an asic miner they can spare, please point it at the pool for 24 hours so this can get sorted out
chalbersma: Can you try setting a manual difficulty? I believe they added that feature to p2pool recently to improve stability. Let me look up the formatting on how to do it.
RagnarsBitch: Yes, rob. There needs to be more than one miner on the network otherwise this issue will persist
chalbersma: I imagine it has to do with the changing hashrate.
chalbersma: That's basically all I've changed (in addition to adding the extra web interface bits.
X-Rob: chalbersma: you should be using the standard p2pool build, with just the magic changed and the ports.
chalbersma: X-Rob Can I get you to point some hashing power there for a bit. Let's see if I can see what the issue is.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
X-Rob: This is when ASICs suck compared to old GPU or CPU hardware, as they need extra time to reset and reconfigure
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I don't know. The pool shouldn't be requesting a hard reset that often. It means that the pool thinks the block time is 20 seconds-ish.
mircea_popescu: X-Rob what do you figure is the prlblem ?
mircea_popescu: wtf is with all the half price x.eur bids.
mircea_popescu: romanian 4rd army (transylvania) used to serve basically two types of food. either cluj cabbage (layers of ground pork and cut cabbage cooked in a large pot for 2 hours) or porked potatoes (same thing)
ben_vulpes: out on the line i heard the same routine: "i can muscle these castings onto the fixture faster than any robot!""
chetty: ben_vulpes, pfftt, takes as long or longer to setup and clean food processor than to just mince the garlic
ben_vulpes: engineer automates a thing, does not get those hours back but instead firm can now build things faster and charge less than the competition for better quality work.
ben_vulpes: <chetty> hmm humans live longer, we have all these modern things to reduce work and yet we dont have time. I admit that one confounds me. << girl gets a food processor, but prep time saved in mincing garlic does not make meals faster, but grander meals.
chetty: interesting habit you got there, " beat to shit against a countertop"
mircea_popescu: ah simultaneous with the reseal
mircea_popescu: course i still wonder what causes the bubble hail.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think kakobrekla has it. the cap is an de facto valve. under high pressure its seal fails, as presusre drops it collapses and seals again, which builds pressure again etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: co2 goes in and then out of solution.
kakobrekla: just the valve needs more energy to fail than to sustain fail
mircea_popescu: simple musical verification of this : all military marches are short musical phrases with a lot of percution and a lot of short measures. all dirges are the opposite.
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, the time the subject perceives he has is a scalar computed as a function of the interruptions count in their brain.
chetty: hmm humans live longer, we have all these modern things to reduce work and yet we dont have time. I admit that one confounds me.
mircea_popescu: chetty to be honest, i think the only thing that's getting exterminated on the short and maybe medium term is your style of reasonable, golden middle sanity.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "author and activist" is becoming the new "singer-songwriter", which is what elevator girls became after waitress-and-model went out of fashion with greenwich village
mircea_popescu: anyway, i for one am muchly in favour of california and perhaps the entire us applying this novel thinking. for one thing, it's too expensive to find out what exactly the drawbacks of this ovular merging thing are other than by using voluntary subjects.
chetty: the current habit in some cultures of aborting the majority of female children is equally insane
mircea_popescu: the solutions she comes up with all stem from her unwarranted premise that she's a whole and complete being.
mircea_popescu: chetty just a little misguided, imo. she perceives the problem correctly, there's too many idiots.
mircea_popescu: this derpage is so delicious lol. olg hags clinging to a social relevancy and political influence they never had and never will have. derp on, sisters!
chetty: Let me point out that as woman I think the author of that piece is totally insane.
mircea_popescu: the future, if there is one, is happy identification as slaves for the people who are, for very good reason, exactly that.
mircea_popescu: so there you have it, perfectly good reason to oppose libertard environmentalism, along with the rest of women-studies driven libertardism.
mircea_popescu: Such a prospect is attractive to women who feel that if they bear sons no amount of love and care and nonsexist training will save those sons from a culture where male violence is institutionalized and revered. These are women saying, No more sons. We will not spend twenty years of our lives raising a potential rapist, a potential batterer, a potential Big Man.
mircea_popescu: [I]f women are given the freedom of their bodies then they may well choose [experimental "ovular merging" technology that produces only female embryos] in great enough numbers to make a significant difference in the sex ratio of women to men. A 75% female to 25% male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one-half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one-half by ovular merging.
mircea_popescu: We now come to a critical point: how is such a reduction in the male population to take place? One option is of course male infanticide. It differs very little from the female infanticide that has apparently been carried out even into the twentieth century by some cultures. Such an alternative is clearly distasteful and would not constitute creative social change. . . .
mircea_popescu: To secure a world of female values and female freedom we must, I believe, add one more element to the structure of the future: the ratio of men to women must be radically reduced so that men approximate only ten percent of the total population. . . .
mircea_popescu: ogative of any man. I suggest that lesbians and other independent women are already moving in this direction. . . .
mircea_popescu: In every culture it must be women in charge of the changes: women-identified women, no women who are pawns of men, not women who out of their fear of losing their lives or those of their children, still hold to the securities of that dangerous patriarchal culture, but women utterly free of coercion, free of male influence and committed to the principle that the right of species regulation is their own, and not the prer
mircea_popescu: ren men think are necessary to perpetuate the tribe or the religion or the specific culture. Instead they will bear the children that they want, that they can care for, and that they assess are needed by the specific group and the entire species. . . .
mircea_popescu: Women will bear the number of children they know can be sustained not just by their own social group but by the wide ecological system. They will not bear the children that some man wants only to perpetuate his name or the family possession of his property; they will not bear the children they presently convince themselves they must have because their only role is obedient wife and mother; women will not have the child
mircea_popescu: ent any males say-so in the process of reproduction. Create and protect alternative structures of economic and psychological support for independent women women not attached to men who are child-bearers and child-raisers. . . .
mircea_popescu: Make the decision entirely that of the woman as to how she will be impregnated and how often, if indeed she chooses to be so at all, and whether by heterosexual intercourse, artificial insemination or a form of ovular merging. Restore to each woman the inalienable right to say what shall become of any fertilized egg and to control absolutely the number of children she wishes to emerge from her body. . . . Make nonexist
mircea_popescu: To return species responsibility to women means in very practical terms that erotic and reproductive initiative must be restored to women all over the globe. . . .
mircea_popescu: At least three further requirements supplement the strategies of environmentalists if we are to create and preserve a less violent world. I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future. II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. . . .
mircea_popescu: Enslaved by male-identification and years of practice within the system as we all still are to one degree or another, the assumption must be that the present system of monopoly capitalism and patriarchy must be replaced and that non-male-identified women must be the responsible ones. . . .
asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://cryptome.org/2014/09/nsa-treasure-map-der-spiegel-14-0914.pdf
mircea_popescu: when they were very shitty wood
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is very true. same could be said of plastics themselves tho, early on
asciilifeform: chetty: try print so much as a nut from - the engine.
mircea_popescu: wow they made a car ?
ThickAsThieves: but just adding fuel to the flame i guess
ThickAsThieves: they pulled some shenanigans when i was withdrawing
mircea_popescu: well then nm.
ThickAsThieves: please go vote for it when it shows up, i'll notify when of they notify me, but they didnt ask for contact info sooo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're about to explain 'ignis fatuus', the popular theory involves phosphine - not phosgene.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: the resulting flame covered like 800 comments or some shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other than cooking pork fat on burning coran pages, i once said that all old romanian people are scum for having been willing and eager commie sluts.
mircea_popescu: HOW DARES THEY!!1
mircea_popescu: and they speak russian!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dollars to doughnuts, herr b00lcrap is digging some vegetable out of the ground even as we speak.
mircea_popescu: instead of joining the harem of a dominant male as slaves and enjoy all the concha they can eat, they derp about as independent shegoats, imagining that they can ever score anything this way. as motherfucking if.
mircea_popescu: yeah because the authors are idiots.
jurov: guess it was implied the marginal women turn to lesbians :D
mircea_popescu: chetty: jurov, well the premise probably not but the goal I suspect he would approve of << not really. i don't mind the bulk of male derpitude, just as long as my women insulate me from it. actual extermination tho is an iffy proposition, you'd end up with a huge bulk of marginal and nul women with nothing to occupy them. best not alter nature's balances.
mircea_popescu: On their Wagon Train to the Stars, our intrepid heroes come across a planet with a single defining characteristic. Everybody is a robot, or a gangster, or a Proud Warrior Race Guy, or an over-the-top actor, or wearing a Nice Hat. To some degree, this is unavoidable; you only have so much screen time or page space to develop and explore a culture. This is especially true in episodic series where the heroes travel to a n
mircea_popescu: jdanks: Well, I are engineer. I no talk good. But I math well. So I'd like to be let known if someone is crazy enough to start a town (; << ok so if you math well you must think good. what is the advantage of trying to implement irl a planet of hats ? it's a device of fiction, borne out of insufficiency of resources. here's your must-read: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetOfHats
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: if mp buys an Island, I might move there << why an island dood. so idiots can try and blocade it all the time ? arent ddoses enough for you ?
mircea_popescu: i guess i forgot the quotes. "lesbian" chicks.
bounce: what is there to rant about? "good luck with that" and that's all she wrote.
bounce: so you have like 50/50 male to female and them wimminses end up all perpetually repressed. and it's all those pesky heterosexual wimminses that aren't fixing it. so it'll have to be us lesbians. and we're going to do it with violence. lots of violence. only one out of every ten men survives!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: ;;later tell princessnell http://theothermccain.com/2014/09/13/feminism-the-final-solution/ wtf?
jurov: the stuff you feed poor mircea :)
jurov: “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”
jdanks: bitcoin mining is for the goose chasers. and now the germans have a chip twice as efficient as anything out there. i'd rather put my meal ticket into btc straight up rather than miners.
RagnarDanneskjol: ok, me neither.. stopped mining ages ago
RagnarDanneskjol: if mp buys an Island, I might move there
jdanks: so i was wondering if anyone in the WoT was doin' somethin' similar
jdanks: I guess the whole story is he has access to all this land, like a town, he just bought it up. He says he's gonna put solar (from Solar City) and Tesla is putting in a charging station. He has a bunch of vids of him working with kids, teaching them engineering and whatnot.
jdanks: https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainValley Yea this too. He kind of went off on a spout one day. Wasn't sure what to think of him. He was trashin' Mr. Weiner and others. Adam Kokesh hung with him and that kinda seems legit, but he no WoT I dunno why.
assbot: Help fund the Blockchain Valley (Bitcoin Kinetics) via BTCJam
RagnarDanneskjol: blockchain valley - another amazing __
kakobrekla: ;;rate jdanks 1 solely fore the purpose of ba voice. easy come easy go.
jdanks: oh the lady birds are bein' lady birds as usual ragnardanneskjol. they have been enjoying my organic corn i let go a bit too long. lost it's sweet and got starchy.
jdanks: is there anyone in the WoT doing anything like the guy trying to pull off blockchain valley? this morgan rockwell character is hard to gauge.
jdanks: hehe, yea i'm new to the whole WoT dealy. gotta start somewhere
TheNewDeal: hows the assets doing tonight
chalbersma: Gotta respect the king of coins.
Vexual: within the terms
Vexual: fuck the terms, this is altcoin
chalbersma: No it's the creator of the interface. I lifted the default one for one that was more useful.
chalbersma: Here's an example of what the blocks look like when solved. https://blockchain.info/block-index/463628/0000000000000000149ef417868a4d9d3ed40bedbf9383ceb708ceb28fbfdd8c
Vexual: chalbersma: it arrives in the wallet freshly minted yes?
chalbersma: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Interoperability_table The code is 90% the same. But most things should work all right.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
chalbersma: and anything you'd like for the password
chalbersma: Your ATC address for the Username
chalbersma: So use 104.131.60.126:8559 for the server
chalbersma: I do however need a link to use for the contact tab. Right now it redirects to me blog.
mircea_popescu: X-Rob you there ?
chalbersma: Mircea. I have the p2pool server ready for testing.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: analogue computing << this is essentially what rf circuitry is doing. the general fad these days is to move all of this computation to the conventional binary machinery