asciilifeform: 'what's yer little ship's name?' 'the hero.' 'ain't ever been such a ship.' 'ain't been - will be now.'
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> we're waiting to take off and they are milking me? << lol you should hear lady v on the topic
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your filter is working correctly, then.
mircea_popescu: even the more exotic 92% dark romanian stuff
mircea_popescu: the power of savarin compells you
asciilifeform: these people - do.
asciilifeform: the consumer - demands.
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2014 08:41:26; mircea_popescu: maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing.
mircea_popescu: i suspect they're about as belgian as haagen dasz
asciilifeform: them, yes
asciilifeform: notice that it is almost exactly the same substance.
mircea_popescu: hungarians are allowed to sz zs all over the place
mircea_popescu: why not go the other way wtf is with this puritan hate of pleasure and enjoyment for crying out loud.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Fast Food, but they make you wait for it.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "asual dining"
mircea_popescu: "TGI Friday's (often shortened to "Friday's" in most countries, previously stylized as "T.G.I. Friday's", and stylized "FRiDAY'S", or "T.G.I.s" in Ireland and the United Kingdom) is an American restaurant chain focusing on casual dining."
mircea_popescu: a bucket list being the list of things the assholes in question were hoping to do before i got to them.
asciilifeform: just as, in the words of an old sage, 'a kill file is simply a file containing list of people you are going to have killed.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform buzzfeed is hot topic for the web.
mircea_popescu: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=buzzfeed << we continue our maddox appreciation day.
ThickAsThieves: in NY the cabs all have "news" playing
mircea_popescu: i stopped the car, got out and spent the next hour screaming at people on the phone.
mircea_popescu: at some point in tm they tried to introduce ad screens in cabs.
ThickAsThieves: we're waiting to take off and they are milking me?
ThickAsThieves: i'm such an old man about it too, we were in the plane and the screen on the seat just starts playing video ads
mircea_popescu: myeah, humane ads are like humane rape. a tough sell in the best of cases.
nubbins`: all about the posters
ThickAsThieves: i liked the vanads project, but in reality i find myself being quite preoccupied with removing advertising from my life
mircea_popescu: so save up the pennies, charitable charities coming soon
mircea_popescu: and if/when we make our own freenode there's going to be that
mircea_popescu: there's also kako's beer fund
ThickAsThieves: they havent passed my sniff test
asciilifeform: the original 'salami slicer' thief, if i recall, stole the rounding error at a large bank.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform birdy in my ear whispers there's a legitimate reason for that thing. specifically, division errors.
ThickAsThieves: whats the difference between hardcoded donation and bitcoin wallet hacker virus?
chalbersma: Only if you leave the default donation is the .25 per block given. I've set the manual donation to 0.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the forum says .25 donated by default. did you change that or what ?
chalbersma: Noticed it with the first block and looked it up. 1 satoshi per block seemed harmless enough.
ThickAsThieves: change the payout to something cooler
mircea_popescu: you added the minimum what ?
mircea_popescu: chalbersma so why did you leave that in there ?
chalbersma: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.150;wap2 Here's an explanation of it. His address is in the code manually for donations.
mircea_popescu: that's not the point. the point is that if we discover this sort of shit by running it, who the fuck knows what else is in there
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think it is just the guy who developed this thing hardcoded donations to himself.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: X-Rob: I've rented hash and pointed it there for 48 hours. Hopefully this drives the pool diff up or... << i don't get it, the pool diff can't be arbitrarily set ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so what is this forrestv thing, does the guy have like a little leak programmed into the code ?
mircea_popescu: "this is a plant made out of cells that could not stand on their own, and if they did would form a circle pattern. it's macropattern is linear. clearly there's something external hodling it all in place"
ThickAsThieves: wag the dog
mircea_popescu: you can tell them from a mile away. mostly because while they make no sense, they proceed liniarly in a way that's not warranted by their internal logic.
mircea_popescu: kdomanski yeah, he's so clearly doing one of those faux-editorial advocacy pieces where some captured "intellectual" is workign to cover the scandalous govt acquisition from some company
kdomanski: mircea_popescu: the article's author is a lawyer specializing in technology law and a member of Senate Whatever Comittee of Inteligence, go figure
chalbersma: Introducing iTank! The most friendly and easy to use Tank every invented. Just take civillians put them infront of the intiutive iTarget system and choose the enemy to iKill.
ThickAsThieves: i guess theyll all be in iOS soon
ThickAsThieves: well can we at least convert them to ChromeOS or someshit
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, the vast and growing population of useless office drones is the reason. they can be kept busy doing nothing which is the point.
ThickAsThieves: sometimes i feel like unconvertible Excel files are the only reason MS still exists
BingoBoingo: I thought they already ran Windows CE or some shit.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is wrong with that country already
ThickAsThieves: how will all the anonycoins fit in one moonship tho?
ThickAsThieves: he's also in solar, which is a quiet little goldmine these days
chalbersma: https://atc.blockr.io/block/info/45165 was the earlier one but we reset all the p2pool data in earlier testing.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, selling stuff on glbse, selling stuff on wallstreet, what the hell's the difference.
ben_vulpes: "shit he's in" << what shit is this? bed with the USG?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah musk is actually remarkably clean for the shit he's in.
ThickAsThieves: Musk was repeatedly telling people the shit is overpriced
mircea_popescu: maybe they hire butterdik
mircea_popescu: the us is by now that loser kid everyone "borrow" things from, and he doesn't mind if you'll just be his friend.
mircea_popescu: i miss the days of spring, back when they were paying romanian loser starvation wages to try their noob psychology on here.
mircea_popescu: notsakamoto don't be a fuckwit and read the logs.
ben_vulpes: three hundred dollar coins by the end of summer?
mircea_popescu: nobdy here gives a shit, on account of us being both richer and more powerful than the usg.
mircea_popescu: rumor has it that the scam in question only exists as an attempt to pull this sort of manipulation.
notsakamoto: rumor has it ethereum selling 1/2 their holdings to pay for dev. 15,000 btc hitting market soon
ben_vulpes: *months* of uptime and then what is this?
mircea_popescu: kdomanski i have nfi how they presume to act as if the tanks are the problem. no, the us general staff, from the chief to the cleaning lady are the problem. hanged all of them.
mircea_popescu: here's an idea for a kill switch : everyone in the pentagon is hanged.
mircea_popescu: "This summer the insurgent group ISIS captured the Iraqi city of Mosuland along with it, three army divisions worth of U.S.-supplied equipment from the Iraqi army, including Humvees, helicopters, antiaircraft cannons and M1 Abrams tanks."
nubbins`: so now i have a large Arial TM in the middle of your image, instead of (probably) a tiny fun TM in the corner somewhere
nubbins`: thestringpuller shirts finally arrived, printing films; your design doesn't have text converted to outlines
mircea_popescu: now the reports and the contract are fucking diverged and jurov has legitimate complaint #873
mircea_popescu: dude i can't believe this thing i edited one place but not the other and signed it like that o.O
mircea_popescu: kdomanski turns out it was urine polution. you know, the way us males get estrogen in the drinking water from all the pills chicks take to not make more kids.
mircea_popescu: PeterL: where did you get 100M shares from? << the confusion is mostly because originally F.DERP was going to have 10x as much money, but then i cut back because nobody was buying the derps, much to i guess no one's surprise.
kdomanski: I suspect natural the way THC is natural and LSD is not
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: this is an easy way to create a fraudulent scenario. <<< i can actually confirm this. clueless intern paid .2 btc coinbase invoice, had to be slapped across head. the bitcents are and have been in limbo since friday.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: if you can recommend a shop and they give you a cutback on the order "finders fee" or something i would consider <<< what you're contemplating is actually fraud, and a hanging offense you know.
nubbins`: don't tell me, tell the people who lelled at my plan
mircea_popescu: there's just so much bridge a person can play.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's not all it's cracked up to be. i spent a while with old farts in costa rica, they bored me stiff.
nubbins`: in the brief introductory bio my manager asked me to provide, i said i planned to retire by age 35
nubbins`: i recall giving a presentation at the place i had a work term once
mircea_popescu: http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/images/inspirational/be_so_happy3.jpg << the main difference between russians and us people ? observe how evstafiev holds the woman's hand.
mircea_popescu: well, the first time anyway.
kdomanski: so mircea_popescu, before the netsplit I asked what did you do before bitcoin
kdomanski_: I definitely saw MP speak, but it's not in the logs
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: I've rented hash and pointed it there for 48 hours. Hopefully this drives the pool diff up or... chalbersma can do something to force it up
X-Rob: BingoBoingo: yeah, I'm solo mining again, for the moment.
kdomanski: it's inconvenient at the very least
kdomanski: somehow I'm not suprised that JS gets a honorary place on the first "list of 10 weirdest programming languages" I found
X-Rob: that one was found within the last 24 hours or so
xmj: jdanks: e.g. there's a brainfuck parser for LOLCODE (no joke) which makes LOLCODE by inheritance turing-complete too.
kdomanski: and the National Instruments sales representative said that with LabView you can bla bla herp-a-derp
xmj: jdanks: brainfuck is oftentimes used to prove that other languages are Turing-complete.
jdanks: i had a feeling xmj. it ain't so bad, but it is forcing me to learn the idiosyncracies of java
xmj: jdanks: there's a language called brainfuck.
xmj: jdanks: saying the same thing in different words
xmj: anyone called the exterminator?
ben_vulpes: to the matlab, engineers!
kdomanski: ben_vulpes: a funny conversation I had started with a colleague of mine saying it's a pitty there's no industrial programming language repos on github
peterl: grammar looks fine to me in the first version
ben_vulpes: now show me the one that builds 0.6 :D
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: using EBS for multi-host blockchain is pretty neat
kdomanski: you've got to love how docker almost ships its own OS as bundled dependecies with the source
assbot: Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container : Bitcoin
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ggrgw/running_the_bitcoin_core_daemon_as_a_docker/
assbot: Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container Medium
thestringpuller: https://medium.com/@abrkn/running-the-bitcoin-core-daemon-as-a-docker-container-7d290affa56b
thestringpuller: Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container
X-Rob: I love the name.
BingoBoingo: Before we signed X-Rob it's where we got hash from during the ATC block constipation crisis
BingoBoingo: Alright, rented a ~600gh/s rig and pointed it at the pool for 48 hours
chalbersma: I'm sure the hacking of kill switches will never be used against the soldiers in quesiton.
kdomanski: next stop: killswitches in all guns (Judge Dredd style), so the "society" can disarm the oh so disagreeable individual
assbot: The Case for Kill Switches in Military Weaponry - Scientific American
kdomanski: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-case-for-kill-switches-in-military-weaponry/
assbot: visualobscurity: Salvador Dali painting La Cara... - Mystery of the Mundane
ben_vulpes: http://thecurioustask.tumblr.com/post/97531244644/visualobscurity-salvador-dali-painting-la-cara << my life in computers
RagnarDanneskjol: I am EXTREMELY suspicious of any cloud-mining operation - they are a barrel or snakes
chalbersma: On me personal pool? I need to remove that but that was me initially testing the advertising idea.
RagnarDanneskjol: wtf i that advert on the bottom of pool?
chalbersma: The second one is running on my home connection I plan to keep it running until we validate and release the p2pool software and more people start running their own copies.
BingoBoingo: What's the pool address. I'll get something aimed at it
RagnarDanneskjol: BingoBoingo - is there anyone else to mine the pool other than Rob? Its going to be virtually impossible to validate pool functionality without at least 2 separate miners running non-stop for at least 24 (pref 48 or more) hours
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 48.87 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.04 TH/s
PeterL: otherwise?
jurov: and what do you do otherwise?
PeterL: well, I was Peter Lambert on the forum
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jurov: either mircea_popescu ignored its own prospectus (100`000`000 shares for 4`657.83 BTC) or I'm getting crazy
jurov: oh he bought moar of them, for "nominal value of 32499 satoshi"
PeterL: jurov, I think you used the wron numbers for F.DERP price
assbot: the niggas that took "check out my mixtape" to a whole new level RT /p0psson: Who the fuck is U2?
Namworld: thestringpuller, pm
mike_c: to the sending address though, that can cause problems too. it is better, but not great.
thestringpuller: they've been doing this for years...
thestringpuller: to the sending address
thestringpuller: so they recommend you send with an address that can receive change
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thestringpuller: so that the tx doesn't get announced to a large % of the network quickly thus coinbase doesn't hear it so it keeps refreshing invoices and I send 2 or 3 tx's
thestringpuller: what if I ddose'd the sender
thestringpuller: the original invoice "refreshes" with a new 10 minute window and a new address
mike_c: thestringpuller: so they say "send 1 btc to stringpuller in the next 10 mins to buy this book", and if it gets sent in 20 mins they still send along the coins?
jurov: maybe they use that oracle of 9 chumps?
jurov: Martin told the Wall Street Journal that a key to regulatory approval was the proprietary price index, which he called “a true neutral arbiter of the bitcoin price on a 24-hour basis that’s not susceptible to manipulation.”
thestringpuller: the proper thing to do would be to automatically refund the coins. or hold them in escrow to return to the sendee.
thestringpuller: thus they create a situation where the merchant will have to refund a purchase if both invoices are filled
thestringpuller: mike_c: when an invoice expires and they generate a new invoice they still send forward coins sent to the expired invoice to the merchant
mike_c: they cancel a tx?
jurov: thestringpuller only mp sold f.derp to himself
ThickAsThieves: the long is each individual listing
ThickAsThieves: the short side is f.derp
thestringpuller: i thought someone would want to sell derp shares and get rid of them
thestringpuller: and this shit isn't being picked up by the network
punkman: thestringpuller: bitcoin is racist, didn't you know
jurov: thestringpuller: btc? atc?
thestringpuller: weird tx's announced from my node are taking forever to be picked up by the network...
diametric: I said might, so I defer to the experts.
diametric: asciilifeform: seems like the TRNG they implement that can be utilized separately might be nice.
thestringpuller: if you can recommend a shop and they give you a cutback on the order "finders fee" or something i would consider
nubbins`: thestringpuller few hundred i suppose, there's a point where larger shops w/ automatic presses would offer better pricing
ThickAsThieves: "We predict that Bitcoin’s lasting legacy will be the innovations it has spurred to payment technology, although the payment system will remain dominated by large processors because of economies of scale."
thestringpuller: what is the max you can print in a single order?
thestringpuller: when he meets with home office for the 2015 FY i may have a huge order for you
mike_c: it's the default font. what's wrong with blue? it's soothing.
ben_vulpes: what the fuck is with outlook users and blue email text?
ThickAsThieves: that's the extent of my noob coffee experience
nubbins`: but a more sensible solution would be, y'know, to prepare your cup in such a way that it's not so bitter in the first place
mircea_popescu: with their dolce de leche and sugar generally
mircea_popescu: nah it's just because they're nuts
nubbins`: chetty: the flavor descriptions are guaranteed to be over the top, but there's some seriously eye-opening shit out there
nubbins`: you wouldn't believe the breadth of flavors
nubbins`: i roasted for the better part of a year
nubbins`: ah ah. nah man, these single-origin coffees are fucking amazing
ThickAsThieves: smoking a joint is just proper imo, the vapes taste nice n all, but make me feel like an addict
nubbins`: you get fried to death otherwise
nubbins`: it's all about the one-hitter nowadays
ThickAsThieves: you cant just take a joint of 24% THC to the head, i mean wtf
mircea_popescu: well done to potheads, this is like not having any coffee for a decade and then it being like... wait i didn't recall it being like this.
mircea_popescu: aha. well then i guess that's what it is. anyway
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it may be the case that pot massively improved since i last had any back in the prehistoric times
ThickAsThieves: the pot in Seattle was great
mircea_popescu: speaking of high, the pot here is infucking credible.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: uh... the thing you just remembered
ThickAsThieves: catholic, rather
mircea_popescu: "i know this woman who wore black for some dude her entire life. she was my grandmother. i dun recall the guy's name."
mircea_popescu: "i know logix but the line bluered eventually."
ThickAsThieves: the line blurs eventually
mircea_popescu: still you know, showing weakness of implementation does not invalidate the principle
ThickAsThieves: what is you 10th removed father's name?
mircea_popescu: everything is an iteration, yes. i don't personally care what anyone does, but the thing that distinguishes me from your run of the mill amoeba living on my penis
ThickAsThieves: and then, is not everything an iteration?
mircea_popescu: thus when bitfinex reimplements that guy's idea but fails to mention that guy, bitfinex is jkust placing itself outside the walls and that's all.
mircea_popescu: well that's not a fair statement of wat happened, and the noticing is noteworthy for the same reason it's noticed in the first place.
mircea_popescu: in general, what distinguishes people from animals is the ability of people to trace history.
mircea_popescu: only for the barbarian horde.
ThickAsThieves: just a testament to its value, not sure if it's as damning as the guy makes it out to be
mircea_popescu: And the Reddit link cites the source as... Reddit of course. Because apparently nobody creates anything anymore, and it all belongs to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Instagram, right assholes? Why bother doing journalism when you can wave a magic wand and say "INTERNET DID IT!"
mircea_popescu: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=abc_classy << maddox being stolen from lol.
mircea_popescu: the number can be adjusted as needed, i wouldn't worry.
ThickAsThieves: further added ""The only reason Iran, Cuba, and North Korea are on that list is because USA sanctioned them - we didn't really have a problem with their regulations." ~ Huobi
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: my favourite example of this business is a gypsy guy by the name viorel lis. at one time the mayor of bucharest, a decade later he was living in the street, but still appearing now and again on tabloid television sets as "an expert" and "ex mayor" for the 2-300 euro fee that brought him
ThickAsThieves: lol teenage boys like skin-tight supergirls "for the articles" news at 11!
kakobrekla: id bet it will before the new block reward goes to 0
kakobrekla: you have to keep adding power to be relevant. < this depends on the her Moore
mircea_popescu: i mean, the most you can get is a pre-sale or reserve-a-miner website, which already exists.
kakobrekla: i can see them turning off the supposed miners in a few months and let this be completely fictional
mike_c: also, that you actually need the hash to deliver, which is difficult because you have to keep adding power to be relevant.
mircea_popescu: mike_c the problem, of course, being that instadelivery of hash is not possible.
mircea_popescu: so which one of you wants to run the atc p2pool for btc and do the delivery part of a mpex traded fully delivered hash future ?
qq1932: (hi, thanks. I'm the same startup founder as before previous, don't have anything specific to say but connected with a couple of people here.)
kakobrekla: >or by how much work i ask for. < noone in the right mind does this
mircea_popescu: and if i get lucky and solve more than the exact number, i just got some spare hash now