JuliaTourianski_: thats' what the wiki says
mircea_popescu: Dimsler well no, people generally know each other.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler make sure you reg then!
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ there's a special command to add an address if the acct is reg'd already
Dimsler: last time had a blast in nyc at the btc conference
The20YearIRCloud: won't the next NYC conference require a license to attend?
Dimsler: some of the bets btc meets i've had was in NYC
Dimsler: the toronto conference was a regurgitation of miami
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud canada is not foreign and barely a country :D
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, ah then we have PLENTY in common
The20YearIRCloud: i'd like to go to the toronto bitcoin conference next time it's around. That way I can say i've been in a foreign country before :D
mircea_popescu: you should be keeping the list!
Dimsler: they are just bad
Dimsler: neg, i stay away from the toronto bitcoin nerds
mircea_popescu: well bulgaria is like the world's gherkin capital.
Dimsler: then back to krakow
Dimsler: spent the rest of my time in budapest
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ so now that you're all set up into personhood, come up with something to do so that the almighty powers of the b-a can support you
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JuliaTourianski_: this means I had sex with Doug- http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/whether-you-love-or-hate-it-youre-missing-what-really-matters-about-bitcoin
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Dimsler: well there was no sherrif
JuliaTourianski_: ty for everyone's help - glad i bothered
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 6 months and 26 days. Estimated cost today: 3.29826841 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud i guess im getting gypped.
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, did ukraine in the summer
Dimsler: wheres the next one
Dimsler: didn't the isle of man one just finish?
Dimsler: not sure if i can last another winter
Dimsler: excuse the pun
Dimsler: i swear you can't do it otherwise
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud ^
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The20YearIRCloud: the $2/lb stuff
The20YearIRCloud: I'd like to try some of the imported anchovies you're eating, compared to our welfare-state anchovies here
JuliaTourianski_: ye they r
Dimsler: lol the toronto bitcoin meets are so damned bad
ben_vulpes: mine, you missed the semis
The20YearIRCloud: It's amazing how quickly we came out of a $1 billion dollar/year budget deficit to having a $2b surplus and cash in the bank
bounce: what's with the _ though?
The20YearIRCloud: US is huge ,and hard to understand. The economy of my state alone is extraordinarily complex
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud anchovies are eaten matured, which means, salted and kept in extra virgin olive oil for a dozen weeks
JuliaTourianski_: look. "Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user JuliaTourianski_"
RagnarDanneskjol: I don't think there's that much paper cash in circulation
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud if that's true, which it could be depending how you define "economy", then the country is a lot more stable than it looks
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user JuliaTourianski_ with key 10572E349297B40F
The20YearIRCloud: i'd venture to say that 1/4th of all money paid in the US is via a non-taxable, cash event
mircea_popescu: just, 50 years ago the current interest to make egypt poor didn't quite exist.
mircea_popescu: bounce that dam was there for 50 years.
ben_vulpes: yeah, except for the terrifying usg war machine.
bounce: rejoice while there's still fish. apparently the aswan dam is doing its part in depopulating the mediteranean
mircea_popescu: this us you speak of sounds more and more argentinian by the minute.
The20YearIRCloud: Those that were honest, or had enough reserve capital to buy more boats and keep themselves through hard times (Katrina & the oil spill) are now doing fantastic
The20YearIRCloud: I think Obama ended up saying they could go up to 3x of claimed taxes, maybe more. But what happened in the end many went under because they had been cheating taxes for 20+ years and it finally caught up with them.
The20YearIRCloud: Like with that BP oil spill, there were hundreds, maybe thousands of fishermen that were all cash businesses who claimed only $50k on taxes, but in fact were doing $500k-$1m/year just themselves with a boat, and BP only re-embursed them based on what they claimed on taxes
The20YearIRCloud: So, by the government's estimates, all fishermen are poor, so they should be free to do whatever they want, and laws are set up to prevent inland fisheries from producing farm-able fish
The20YearIRCloud: They all run tax scams - Fish, sell fish tax free, claim no money on taxes and take government bailouts when all possible
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud the moral of the story being something like, "it's the land of the thrifty" down there huh ?
The20YearIRCloud: Lake erie is fantastic, all the great lakes are. What's in trouble are coastal waters as the government has a pretty stupid deal to 'help' fishermen on the coats
mircea_popescu: i heard the us fish and wildlife's been spending a lot to repopulate inland waters.
The20YearIRCloud: My brother-in-law was there in August, spent about 2 hours and caught the limit. He and his friends had 150kg of fish within 3 hours
The20YearIRCloud: It's about 2hrs from me, rent a boat and get all the perch you want for a $25 yearly permit
The20YearIRCloud: so all the walleye and perch you could ever hope for!
lobbes: ohio has 'The North Coast'
bounce: the wonders of cheap fuel
The20YearIRCloud: About there
The20YearIRCloud: Fish markets in columbus, they have fresh fish shipped in via air or same-day freight
The20YearIRCloud: they're pretty darn cheap here
The20YearIRCloud: around here we buy and crush up a few multivitamins + flinstones chewables, and make into the HFCS syrup
ben_vulpes: they're midwestern groceries. mostly corn syrup.
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud i dunno where you find your women, but a coupla hundred bucks doesn't buy a month's worth of groceries.
mircea_popescu: definitely more practical "survival" coinage than the golden stuff.
mircea_popescu: so if silver actually falls under 15 it means the nominal value of the us pound would be like 240 dollars or so ?
mircea_popescu: got the script anywhere?
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JuliaTourianski_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LCohouNDc my wokr b4 bitcoin :P ahahah much embarrassment but ppl love the drama
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess i am probably the most feminist here.
mircea_popescu: the difference is negligible.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla stop trolling the girl omg!
JuliaTourianski_: i haven;t done any significant seo since then so I don;t follow it now, im sure there have been more updates since
JuliaTourianski_: i mostly did creative local seo, on page keywords and content rather than paying for off page seo
JuliaTourianski_: regarding seo, after hummingbird the emphasis on content and new content in particular was raised. sm as well
mircea_popescu: which makes it the direct equivalent of dating advice. something people living in the us need.
mats_cd03: 14:14:38 <+mircea_popescu> mats_cd03: inquiring minds want to know - is it even possible to do SEO these days? without blackhat methods, that is. << trilema ranks for pretty much any noun i deign to use, so yes.
julia_: ok so if i follow these instructions in the order it should be smooth http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: because it'll save you the chagrin of working for a year as bitcoinpete only to change it later to pete d
bounce: you prefix them with /msg nickserv
bounce: ;;gpg info bravetheworld
mircea_popescu: julia_ how is miss castillo these days ?
ben_vulpes: !s bravetheworld
mircea_popescu: i see you hav the public key published, but something like http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/ is better practice
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julia_: ive had that for a while, i didn;t know this part "pgp is the standard. gpg is the gnu implementation thereof." thanks
ben_vulpes: different handle back then
julia_: ok then I'm aware.
bounce: both should be openpgp format. there might be some differences in algorithms supported, but both should work together well enough.
mircea_popescu: as long as you use gpg, you're an individual, and can be interacted with as such. as long as you use anything else, including nothing at all, you're not, and whatever you may like to think or claim, can never actually be interacted with as an individual, except if you live in a 1900s reenaction camp where the intenret doesn't exist.
ben_vulpes: (julia_: that's a good place to start with creating your own keys and keeping them safe. this is just as important as keeping your btc privkey safe, if not more so.)
mircea_popescu: this difference is as essential as the difference between linux and running proprietary ms code you can't modify or even read.
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mircea_popescu: julia_ lemme explain the difference. all usable encryption is based on asymetric keys. this is a keyword you can look up.
ben_vulpes: there's only trolls in this channel!
julia_: nothing is that difficult. it's only a matter of bothering i find.
bounce: what was it again, there's a few people, among them an activist married couple from texas, that have lots of undue influence in the content of schoolbooks in large parts of the us, because they influence the texas schoolboard with their personal agenda, then that cascades through the system by sheer force of purchase volume
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mircea_popescu: uhh the fuck was it.
mircea_popescu: bounce yeah well, the unintrospected can still be wilful.
ben_vulpes: julia_: there's no cost to WoT entry beyond showing up with keys. if you can decrypt a string encrypted to your public key, you can enter the WoT.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no because people are born in systems etc.
bounce: more like prevailing strains of thought, like how n/w yurp education systems are typically filled with left-leaning do-gooders and the material reflects that
bounce: yeah hm. AFAIK often enough not wilful propaganda. though there's states with lots of that too, of course.
ben_vulpes: julia_: since you're falling down the black hole, have you dabbled in GPG yet?
chetty: wow, its a general statemant julia_ , I keep my eyes open too, lot of would be puppet masters out there
julia_: ye, like everything else. people are born into systems thinking they owe those systems something, and they can;t fathom living a different way
mircea_popescu: she paradoxically has a point there. a lot of low level / common man thinking happens as a linguistic and paralinguistic construct
bounce: "thinking granted by the state"? o_O?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: should be "how else are we gonna tell them their password when they forget it?!" << totally.
julia_: I think there's generational propaganda, different in every region. but if a minority of people escape the thinking they've been granted by states and the framework of their time, then they can build alternative systems.
mircea_popescu: julia_ well there's two specific things there. bitcoiners don't like amir because he's an idiot, and many people don't like berwick after that chile gulch real estate fraud episode. what exactly is your association ?
chetty: well being raw makes it easy for someone with more experience to pull the strings .. worht keepíng an eye out
julia_: well if it's too soon, how can I know? :P I think ideas have to just manifest and find a vehicle. I'd like to be a vehicle for something that can affect change. maybe that will never happen...but process is fun. I've learned a lot...more to come I'm sure. I'm very raw still. so don't assume I think much of myself because I don't in fact that's the only thing that gets to me.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: inquiring minds want to know - is it even possible to do SEO these days? without blackhat methods, that is. << trilema ranks for pretty much any noun i deign to use, so yes.
julia_: ""I believe in doing things too soon. In striking before the iron is hot, in leaping before one has looked, in loving before one has been introduced. Nearly all the great and exciting things in life have been done by men who did them too soon. It was far, far too soon for Columbus to set out on his crazy trip to the New World. The ether was not ready for Beethoven when he began a symphony on a dominant seventh. Shelley,
mircea_popescu: julia_ you know this is where bitcoin happens. you're basically saying you'll be part of the extra-new-york counterculture or something
mircea_popescu: dude i can scarcely imagine the kingdom of flies this socialmedia internet must be if the first notion in the head of anyone is that they're going to be hated or something.
julia_: trust. i just dont see myself coming back often enough to bother
chetty: there you go, being all practical and all
bounce: you probably should anyway. with a bitcoin address if you're not into the gpg key waving thing
mircea_popescu: there's something to decide ?
mircea_popescu: julia_ i wouldn't be too worried about it, half the kids on the internet claimed to be doing seo at some point in their life. it's like being cowboy for the 70s.
mircea_popescu: mkay, so what you want to do is get in the wot for one, and come up with something practical to do for the other.
julia_: I've only done into the btc black hole 4 months ago, but I don;t think I'll be coming out
bounce: ah, you're sure you're not looking for abuse, down the hall?
mircea_popescu: the thing with me is that im sincere.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 they let you in ?!
mircea_popescu: julia_ is this some kind of you're young and powerless and people just keep kicking you around so you figure everyone's gonna at the very least try or what.
mircea_popescu: looks like someone in the process of learning php has been editing the wp-comments files.
mircea_popescu: as to http://bravetheworld.com/ if you try submitting a comment form it dies, check it out for yourself.
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mod6: thestringpuller: thx
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mircea_popescu: no tcp/ip where they live or what
empyex: thestringpuller: Next conference starts in 6 months and 26 days. Estimated cost today: 3.29662096 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
nubbins`: thestringpuller: $
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thestringpuller: what's the command!
mircea_popescu: lol "i have all these 18-28 friends and i don't know anyone who is successful"
mircea_popescu: lol. what's with all the youtube chicks, "hey guise, there is something i want to talk about today"
thestringpuller: (wirelessly charging the vehicle)
thestringpuller: hmm wireless charging has yet to become a thing even though the tech has existed a century
mircea_popescu: i mean, tesla as in nikolai. the distance thing
thestringpuller: I guess we'll just have to wait an see with the long term storage of tesla's and electric vehicles in general
mircea_popescu: nubbins` most unlikely to backfire plan of the year.
thestringpuller: yes back in the 70's
mircea_popescu: so you mean like, back i nthe 70s ?!
thestringpuller: with carburated vehicles if fuel stays in the carbs is clogs
thestringpuller: if you have synthetic oil you may be good up to 5 years
mircea_popescu: otherwise in a closed tank its own vapor pressure prevents it
thestringpuller: yup these are decent guides
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mircea_popescu: what's more, neither does the dmv : http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/laying_up.html
thestringpuller: so you may need to tow the vehicle to a shop to do "wake up from comatose" work on it
thestringpuller: also depending on climate control the starter system could go dead in long term storage of a car
thestringpuller: it's always recommended you remove the fuel from the gas tank before putting into storage
thestringpuller: you'd have to do the same thing for if you put a combustion vehicle in long term storage
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller so what do i do, take a laptop battery to the tesla, start it enough to drive to charging station ?
mircea_popescu: much like the smartphone revolution is to a large degree, for the anthropologist at least, "the phone you can't forget about"
mircea_popescu: this is a very interesting sidepoint to the whole electric car thing. a car YOU MUST FIDDLE WITH
thestringpuller: sometimes it feels like they can go a year
mircea_popescu: "do you mean the window made the seat or it allowed the seat ? by as in by picasso or as in by god ?"
nubbins`: technicality cafe: would you like a seat by the window?
nubbins`: y'see, when people talk about "commonwealth countries", this is the common wealth to which they refer
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mircea_popescu: what's them ?
nubbins`: do they have honey shreddies in argentina?
mircea_popescu: justr, the moistening of previously dry matter, that could have survived indefinitely dry.
nubbins`: the cold preserves things
mircea_popescu: he means he was born into one of those conservative environments where they use wet nurses and what the wet nurses do to pacify the young lord that cries/won't sleep is suck his cocklet.
jurov: *to the world
thestringpuller: and you had sex with the nurse that helped deliver?
nubbins`: sexual. it was the third woman i'd slept with.
nubbins`: fun fact, nurse in the delivery room was like "shit, nubs" and immediately engaged me in intercourse
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller bout same that the woman can effectualy become a slave, 16 to 26 or w/e. definitely not past 30, metabolism goes to shit.
thestringpuller: the writer looks hot
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl yeah not a bad plane for the 200k it costs. prolly the best bird that money can buy.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron oh, the rub is this is some twerp that wanted to have invented "bitcoin independence" except hadn't done their trilema reading and was nonplussed to find a) it's old and b) the people who did it aren't impressed with kids sitting on their ass "changing thr world" through verbiage.
mircea_popescu: oh i totally want to pay something to read how nyt has rewritten the official usg talking points this week.
mircea_popescu: "I think it funny #mainstreammedia implements paywalls on their websites. They think their gov't content worthy." lmao.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, til there exists a dude named xavier zappa. now that's not a bad name.
mircea_popescu: i knew a chick that had named her cat Dog, but at least that was a) funny and b) not the cat's doing. too much pseudo-irony for lyfe.
mircea_popescu: wtf is with all these people and their identity issues, i can scarcely imagine one's life under this convention. age 0 to 1 week: MaternityInfant ; 1 week to 1 year : DiapersDude ; Age 1 to 3 years : MrChewsalot ; 3 to 7 : FallingoverPerson ; 7 to 10 SillyPuttyPutting ; 10 to 13 OneHairYo
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: does anyone know who this idiot is? << you know, the proof of idiocy is circular reasoning, not disagreement.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: maybe put the whole roll on the wall if it comes to it. << ahahaha kako got tired of digging
bounce: the password is to stick it in google
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kakobrekla: if only they base64 encoded it
nubbins`: i guess they probably still do
nubbins`: i used to work at an insurance company that stored all their client passwords in plaintext
mats_cd03: i discovered a while ago that visual basic 6 was used for a front end on a .mil dish that provided internet connectivity to personnel in the field
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/09/22/a-rough-weekend-for-missouri-sports/
nubbins`: kakobrekla:maybe put the whole roll on the wall if it comes to it. <<< good idea, collectors love original packaging
dub: so her utility ends at compost or some other biomass
cazalla: you know when you come across someone that says things that you know are being said on behalf of someone else, that's the feeling i get from her
BingoBoingo: <mats_cd03> inquiring minds want to know - is it even possible to do SEO these days? without blackhat methods, that is. << What do you think /. is?
cazalla: but no, she might be dumb but she popped up almost a year ago with all these videos, from what i've seen and heard from her, she's a puppet for someone else
mats_cd03: inquiring minds want to know - is it even possible to do SEO these days? without blackhat methods, that is.
mats_cd03: i lol at the lack of self-realization that causes such branding
cazalla: nfi but she has not been here in the past 12 months and she popped up 9 months ago
assbot: If you told me last year that I'd be running GIT and beta testing /openbazaar I'd think you were speaking in another language. /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash
BingoBoingo: In a few millenia the archeaologist will appreciate that.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Did you also get the nuclear resistant packaging other recipients are reporting?