asciilifeform: i don't even have to disassemble the beast, extract the fw, and reverse it to have a pretty solid guess
asciilifeform: and only updated guess where - interrupt handler (that's only entered if os is using the digitizer, naturally)
asciilifeform: and incidentally, i know just how the author arrived at this - he probably used the 'watchdog' feature of the micro which implements the device
asciilifeform: why i even mention it? because it's an example of a device that loudly, proudly, pisses on the usb spec (spirit and letter thereof) but is tolerated because for most people - it appears harmless.
mircea_popescu: so the formidable mpoe-pr lives :D
thestringpuller: probably less red tape to deploy an atm in the 2nd world.
cazalla: but more 2nd world because they have better internets
cazalla: anyway, while driving such long distances, i got to listening to let's talk bitcoin episodes and in one of the latests, adreas concedes bitcoin isn't for africa but maybe now philippines, argentina
nubbins`: well, there's that :D
nubbins`: with blue shutters that turn purple when you open them?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nubbins`: you guys and your normcore style << do elaborate! << this thing where one just barfs raw HTML elements all over the page
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's generally the common refuge of the inept, to pretend that "if they wanted"
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference < << actually this is quite good advice.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference
thestringpuller: thanks nanotube! i didn't know the main one.
nanotube: <thestringpuller> nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/otc/today/ <- i think you probably mean "cant", and the answer is i don't know, neofutur keeps that mirror. you can wget from bitcoin-otc.com/otc/
moldysnizz: Oh. I'm teathered to my phone. Need znc, must logout
BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: There's a lot to catch up on.
BingoBoingo: Now that cazalla's back trying to get back to 'Murica time for the qntra
moldysnizz: Crap. Gotta go to the store before beer sales end.
ninjashogun: guys, I've got to go, it's very late here. thanks for the up and the links, I'll talk to you next time.
BingoBoingo: Don't put expiration dates on the keys?
moldysnizz: Not really sure what the propper protocal is.
moldysnizz: Had to make a new one, the old had expired.
moldysnizz: Well, hi there
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, that is a hilarious cartoon. the punchline is great.
bounce: well, a SMOD then.
asciilifeform: the correct solution would be to quit doing work that requires laptops, but i cannot afford this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at any rate, these are legion.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Most laptops with bios locks on card models accept any mini-pci-e wireless cards in the second, cellular modem mini-pcie with just a bit of tape to cover a pin
ninjashogun: that is not an actual title, just the first line that was already quoted.
assbot: <ninjashogun> you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. govern - Pastebin.com
ninjashogun: this is the actual pastebin, so we're not being selective - http://pastebin.com/hT9RJN0S
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: quite a few of the newer boxes deliberately choke if you install an aftermarket card (if you can even find one that fits the slot)
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> I think you can improve your device by communicating with the host in any other way (LED and webcam, speaker and microphone, whatever), other than as a USB device, which I don't think is the most secure interface for your usage case. No, I didn't have anyone else tell me to tell you this!
asciilifeform: that, e.g., you can't switch off (how does the usb dongle behave on power-low mode? etc)
asciilifeform: then it isn't a laptop, but a crate of crapolade on wires
BingoBoingo: bounce, but they fuel even more automated and idiotproof machines
asciilifeform spent 3 days getting a wireless card to work, all because some shitgnome silently removed support for 'wireless extensions' in a driver (e.g. 'iwconfig') in the name of chope and hange.
mircea_popescu: dude everyone fancies themselves a "we" and a world creator
mircea_popescu: Thats awful, but you gotta admit
hilarious! Once again, high-fives all around. This is the world we have created.
BingoBoingo: A lot of automation there
mircea_popescu: such nonsense, really. people this frail have no business in the public view. take a mcd job and be happy there
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. government. (or any other government). Other than holding citizenship and in the interests of absolute full disclosure, I served briefly in the military. This isn't text or me saying it
mircea_popescu: 2. ignore them (they escalate, make your life more miserable, DDoS, ruin your career, etc. i.e. They Win) <<< wait, wut ?
asciilifeform: hell, when we turn his microphone off, we're doing him a favour. perhaps they let him clock out then.
asciilifeform: we all know where the button is, yes.
asciilifeform: if someone has another purpose for him - let's have it
ninjashogun: I don't htink that's the sole purpose of letting me speak.
asciilifeform: ninjashogun: let's start with the basics. you come here, knowing that the sole purpose of allowing you to speak is, more or less, public vivisection for our pleasure. and yet you come. this suggests that you are carrying out your duties to earn your bread.
ninjashogun: What I mean is that that is the meaning of the sentence "things you don't understand and things that are random don't share much common ground" gramatically. (though i understand you're just being rhetorical). after you factor out the double negatives.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, it's pretty hard not to see how making random USG accusations isn't exactly the same as using a made-up hot-button "she used DMCA take-downs"?
mircea_popescu: shaman sitting on the steps of white house. "and now president will come out" obama pops out. shaman "i control the presidency!!!1"
asciilifeform: wot is a stochastic system, like thermodynamics.
asciilifeform looks forward to seeing butterfly collections fill up with folks banging on the door of the wot, 'i'm not a spammer! here's 150 friends who swear! and none of them are in, it's because you drink koolaid'
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, you are literally talking exactly as described in the article I've just linked. This makes you feel better I guess?
mircea_popescu: yeah hiring for that is like hiring for the press
asciilifeform: humint bugger has to tend, befriend, schoozle, bamboozle - before he is ever permitted to hire. at least in the civilized world - can't speak for crazyland
asciilifeform: like the static on a screen contains many 'movies'
asciilifeform: sufficiently abject failure can look like other kind of sufficiently abject failure
mats_cd03: i've observed both sides of the humint game and ninjashogun is just a failed mba
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, yes in the sense that several people here have said things like "I read thorugh that twice and don't see where USG comes in"
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, tihs is exactly why I linked you http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point -- saying this is literally exactly the same as the DMCA allegation. Nobody knows hwere you came up with it.
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun "others" who ?
assbot: weev: "Women in tech", doxing, Kathy Sierra, and the koolaid.
asciilifeform: aha the doxxing crap
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, you should have a read at http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point -- I found it very enlgihtening.
ninjashogun: mats_cd03, it's hrad to see what you get out of making statements like this but you expressed to me privately that you were dissatisfied with your work and had to jump through mental hoops to justify how important it might turn out to be in hypothetical (and unlikely) situations. The truth is you could have a bigger impact doing something else, and you know this. (You brought it my attention.)
assbot: Trouble at the Koolaid Point | Hacker News
ninjashogun: mats_cd03, (and others) I found this article interesting and very relevant to the culture you're buliding here. http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8425501
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: actually he does have one thing to offer - the truth about why he came here. but i don't expect to hear it.
mats_cd03: you should instead turn your attention to leeching from the government as others like you
BingoBoingo: * thestringpuller, yeah autocomplete
thestringpuller: no The20YearIRCloud
thestringpuller: i'm thestringpuller
ninjashogun: mats_cd03, other people have been fine with them. It's better to have proposals and not want them than not to have them, for most people in a position to seriously consider them. (called 'dealflow').
BingoBoingo: Just talked to the lawyer. As long as I stay patient I jsut might win this case through attrition, the DA... just... can't... retain... licensed... lawyers
thestringpuller: nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/otc/today/ ?
gribble: Check links against the Web of Trust database - Meta Stack Exchange: <http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/58558/check-links-against-the-web-of-trust-database>; WOT Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOT_Services>; "World's Largest Public Hacker Database" | Forum | WOT (Web of Trust): <http://www.mywot.com/en/forum/31000--world-s (1 more message)
justusranvier: On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop
mircea_popescu: it may be the worst design i ever heard of
mircea_popescu: this boggles the mind
mircea_popescu: and so if it misses a packet in there you just keep on typing n ?
mircea_popescu: justusranvier so then what happens actually is that if you press a key it sends a packet over and if you depress it similarly
pete_dushenski: my third response to gavin for the day: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30754
BingoBoingo: Even thermos doubts Gavin https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl25hmw
justusranvier: go a few parents up to finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarting po
assbot: justusranvier comments on A Scalability Roadmap | The Bitcoin Foundation
justusranvier: This was a more important thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl2fbhx
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Best part. The authors and subjects... all white as gypsum
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do the gawker idjits figure they're any better than the ozarks idiots just through being a different color...
mircea_popescu: dude, that article's something else. buncha tiresome hippies rolling their eyes at b uncha tiresome fargo inhabitants.
mircea_popescu: Uh HUH!" Dan Witz's mosh pit paintings? "AbsoLUTEly!" This is actually a clever form of communications ju-jitsu, because, over time, you start adopting the same affectation just to fit in, until one day you hear yourself saying "That ghost tour was AMAZING!" and you wonder if you have lost your identity somewhere along Highway 86.
mircea_popescu: ss your heart" Southern affectation of intense, polite agreement with everything that makes a mockery of any attempt at challenging conversation. Even when Bucky started ranting about various street artists and why they are or are not sellouts, Berry would strenuously agree, despite the fact thatand I don't think I'm speaking out of turn herethe street art scene in Branson is rather limited. Banksy's new piece? "
thestringpuller: Where Denzel puts a C4 block in the rectum of a police chief
BingoBoingo: You know at this point the shit Gavin proposes on the roadmap has to suggest a three letter agency gave him an explosive buttplug.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2014 23:36:46; thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2im4zv/gavin_andresen_proposes_bitcoin_hard_fork_to/cl3pga6
mircea_popescu: "BRANSON, MOAmong the things that I dislike most in this world are patriotism, religion, tourist traps, country music, and the Walmart corporation. So I traveled to the one area of this nation that captures them all. It did not go as planned."
mircea_popescu: the difference is staggering.
mircea_popescu: probably wasted in the venue, but i do kinda see you as this barefoot preacher to the huns.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier that's a rather intelligent point.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, but the performance issue triggers my everpresend paranoid suspicion
thestringpuller: "Brother Taaki" ~_~
thestringpuller: "Thank you for posting that article! Brother Taaki knocks it out of the park." << like really
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: hmm. maybe gavin is trying to tip us off below the radar of his handlers?
mircea_popescu: really curious what turdage lurks therein
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> "And then divide by
uh, I think 5, because Pieters libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL << honestly, at this point i'd want everyone to give a good look to libsecp256k1
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny. <<< or, moreover, aren't even bitcoin in any sense. notice the earlier guy with his strange "irc is insecure" notions. he probably thinks he's involved. his choices and mental processes however do not reflect that.
assbot: multithreading - What's the opposite of "embarrassingly parallel"? - Stack Overflow
asciilifeform: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/806569/whats-the-opposite-of-embarrassingly-parallel
gribble: P-complete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-complete>; Stackelberg competition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stackelberg_competition>; Sequential Equilibrium and Perfect Equilibrium ... - Cornell University: <http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~rafael/papers/imperfect.pdf>
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> some jobs simply do not parallelize. << i have trouble coming to terms with this concept. wtf do you mean ? they'd better parallelize or else can't work on a turing machine
BingoBoingo: It's the derps who see adds about hosting prices falling or staying constant and the connections offered increasing... Don't realize how infrequently... people who keep their own machines upgrade their connections... Unless they are running a data center.
thestringpuller: the reindexing is killer
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: What took me so long was building a full txindex.
thestringpuller: if you had the block chain already downloaded
assbot: My Failed Attempt to Suck the Walmart-Flavored Blood of Real America
BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/my-failed-attempt-to-suck-the-walmart-flavored-blood-of-1642497737 << New Yorkers forced to confront real America.
mircea_popescu: dude i go make some porn websites with stolen false names for five minutes and when i return the log scrolled off my desk
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: I mean right now it would be feasible to put a Bitcoin node pretty much anywhere with a wired internet connection other than Nepal or the Desert, yet... this constant bandwidth grow really only happen consistently in data centers.
bounce: those numbers are not that important. he could be off by a factor of ten and nobody'd notice. the "paying attention to the needs of EVERYBODY" is killer, though. in light of his committing those same EVERYBODY on upgrading their connectivity every year.
pete_dushenski: "uhh let me make up numbers and not even mask the fact that they're made up because i'm typing in my retardedness."
pete_dushenski: "And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL." << love this line by gavin.
pete_dushenski: gavin must drive a lexus because he's definitely in the pursuit of perfection.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay. << such forecasting these guys.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup << only then will their derping be tamed. when it actually costs something.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it. << so *that's* why we're here!
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb. << whoa.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place, and apply the inflationary economy it's ran off from here << they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny.
pete_dushenski_: this block size talk really lit the fire!
asciilifeform: these are sold for rf applications.
asciilifeform: and then - maybe you have something.
asciilifeform: you'll need to find new chemists. that are (if you're lucky) in their cradles right now.
asciilifeform: if you need one - straight to them. take a few $m.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'narus corp.' (il. they supply a good chunk of nsa's hardware infrastructure) sells these.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: given that tcp/ip lets you fuck with ordering, that trivially parallelizes. at least, as fast as you can physically clock the bits off the wire to individual comparison registers, and then back on
bounce: true enough. and so the best you can have there today AIUI is a 5+ GHz IBM thing in a massively overpriced package
asciilifeform: the engineers' answer seems to have been, 'well don't do those jobs'
asciilifeform: as in, mathematically.
asciilifeform: bounce: read why s. cray uttered the 'chickens' phrase.
asciilifeform: they don't exist. no one has made any such thing for 20+ years.
asciilifeform: non-chicken << you can't buy them.
bounce: they can charge quite a lot before it becomes more economical to buy non-chicken cpus
bounce doesn't begin to have the soldering skills for that. or the rest of the ee skills. will have to work on that.
asciilifeform: they're dressing this as 'enterprise' turdware, yes.
BingoBoingo: The US really should start selling ketamine like aspirin
bounce: protection against the uncool people
hanbot: bounce treacle, sugar refining byproduct. a brownish, sickly-sweet gunk. perhaps a little awkward in there ::shrugs::
bounce: the socials become rockstars and die at 27 from an overdosis
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i knew a guy who basically had a soundstage, because he wanted to record all his fucking sessions, which he then catalogued and manically preserved for old age.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos so do something useful then.
bounce: worse than. possibly quite a lot worse, depending on how much of a party the insurers are going to throw with it
xanthyos: i just don't want to spend hours a week comparing the lengths of my fingernails anymore.
mircea_popescu: bounce or less than useless, as the case may be
hanbot: i don't put too much stock in the whole dsm classification stuffs.
bounce: shit, every version of the DSM has MORE reasons
bounce: there's more ways and reasons to feel hopelessly inadequate and unfit for life
mircea_popescu: it seems rather obvious.
mircea_popescu: btw, im kinda surprised none of the evil-overgovernment conspiracy theorists have identified the oecd as the mechanism.
assbot: This is it | The Whet
hanbot: xanthyos http://thewhet.net/2012/this-is-it/ << written for pretty much where you are.
xanthyos: i'm one of the entitled socialist dregs that bitcoin is going to weed out
thestringpuller: xanthyos: one of my closest friends has schizoaffective disorder. there was a point when he was having tons of episodes everyday that he couldn't really leave the house. But he's doing better now because better treatment is out. Just stick with it mang.
thickasthieves: maybe in addition to the shrink
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather go to some full contact sport thing than a shrink if the problem is violence.
bounce: plenty help with all sorts of things. good of you to know where (some of) your weaknesses are. doing something about it is the next step.
mircea_popescu: yeah, basically, eiother bounce or my solution works.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, he was too stupid and the stingray too wily
xanthyos: because i'm too afraid if i got a girlfriend i'd just end up BEATING her like the last one
mircea_popescu: and that without even considering the part where you were born before he got it.
kakobrekla: x<xanthyos> maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment < its good you figured this before buying a bottle of vodka and walking into the woods. just listen to us.
BingoBoingo: vodka and the woods sounds like a fun way to get a hangover.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of any man's post pancreatic lung cancer giving their offspring braindamage
xanthyos: i might buy a bottle of vodka and walk into the woods
xanthyos: and i have been stuck in the chapel perilous in some schizoaffective bullshit for 8 days unable to leave the house or bed
mircea_popescu: trust is a feeling! investing is a +ev activity for the amateur, just like people make a profit growing tomatoes on their windowsil. sticks and stones could break your bones but words is what really matters. etc.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you don't understand how the world works.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mike_c to user tapeke: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mike_c&dest=tapeke | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tapeke | Rated since: never
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2014 03:44:52; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD
mike_c: there was this woman around looking for work who was a writer, but i think she disappeared.
mike_c: my once-a-month pace already strains my time for writing. i don't think i'm the right fit for a newsroom.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I dunno. It's all about the burn rate.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the sad part here is that 15k youtube views took $300 * 3 * 4.2 = 3800 dollars' worth of this guy's time.
mircea_popescu: Tapeke is the first personal finance application specifically designed for Bitcoin. We help Bitcoiners to keep track of their Bitcoin expenses and incomes and ..." << you couldn't possibly mean that ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/onmJiHN.gif << am i putting this in the next s.nsa report ?
mircea_popescu: who the fucke is tapeke
mircea_popescu: i was a producer for a bunch shots, but that was back in the 90s.
mircea_popescu: this is an interesting point tho. i guess for the vast majority of the public, bitcoin is this "cool tech", nobody stops to think bitcoin is actually a bunch of saudi princes.
Quinn_: Not to seem rude, but there;s hundreds or people who claim to be bitcoin millionaires on reddit and such.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin created what, 50bn worth of value out of the ether. didja think it all went into the usg budget or something ?
BingoBoingo: Quinn_: At the time he was provably a Billionaire. Now He's mysteriously maybe so. Bitcoin be volatile.
assbot: Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' The Register
Quinn_: other than one article citing you as a romanian billionaire which doesn't exactly sound in any way legit.
Quinn_: and I know nothing about you, a quick google search doesn't reveal anything either
mircea_popescu: hm, irc chats are actually the pinnacle of trustworthy, you just don't know about how it all works yet.
Quinn_: The amount of work and time dedicated all depends on price. e.g a $300 video that's 30 seconds long will take a week.
mircea_popescu: Quinn_ how long does it take you to make one of these ? could you in principle bang out one a week if scripts were availabe ?
mircea_popescu: you can contact me through here and we can discuss it further.
mircea_popescu: that's the point, actually.
Quinn_: Contact me through my site and we can discuss this further! :)
bounce: that's not-invented-here.gov, dunno about their political or historic revisionism inclinations
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, it all fits neatly, "prior to the soviet state and everywhere outside of it kids had it rough and didn't even get any icecream"
bounce: ``The Mexican natives in the encomienda system were treated as virtual slaves, were poorly fed and clothed, and were greatly overworked as farm and mine laborers. This harsh treatment appears to have left them particularly vulnerable to epidemic disease.'' -- worked to death, illness finished it
mircea_popescu: but i'm preselected, i already seen the cartoon you made, so we're going with that type.
ben_vulpes: though the causal relationship is a little murky to me
mircea_popescu: Quinn_ how does it depend on the content ?
Quinn_: Depends on the content, i have a site which is better to contact me through. www.zenithquinn.com/#!commissions/c171x
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: prior, iirc. the context of the remark was that the sultan (subject of the chapter) began to address the plagues that had routinely decimated the capital with european medical techniques. this was, iirc, one of the last three to rule before the sultanate was brought to an end by the young turks et al.
Quinn_: I created the bitcoin users in a nutshell cartoon.
BingoBoingo: Hanta is apparently a creature of the desert.
chetty: BingoBoingo, thats a point, with all the drought that should have broken out, haven't seen anything about it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hanta, still endemic to the America southwest. Goes through dormant, emergent cycles
chetty: <asciilifeform> chetty: they want to eat.// helps to be alive to do that
gribble: Megadrought and Megadeath in 16th Century Mexico: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730237/>; Cocoliztli - Evidence Detail :: US History: <http://www.dhr.history.vt.edu/modules/us/mod01_pop/evidence_detail_11.html>; Cocoliztli or Cocolitzli? - Indigenous Hemorrhagic Fever and The ...: <http://earthmatrix.com/linguistic/cocoliztli.html>
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Most cattle here lack the cardiovascular endurance to really... Stampede... McDonalds et al
asciilifeform: chetty: they want to eat.
chetty: on the not shutting down flights, whats wrong with those pilots and aircrews, they can and should shut it down
mircea_popescu: it's the cattle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't credit them with that.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The scariest zombies are always the kind that die. I've never much feared undeath.
mircea_popescu: like the 1812/13 ? or prior ?
asciilifeform: dub: when folks start to burst in shopping malls into bloody mess, they won't be able to keep a lid on it. and they know it. so what can they do? cultivate an atmosphere of bullshit, so the news will be met with maximal skepticism.
mircea_popescu: dub the sherrif apparently is suspcious
dub: is there acutally more cases of obola or are yall watching fox again