Azelphur: Education system works for some, and doesn't for others, etc
cazalla: i don't doubt that but as we say down under, you both might need to harden the fuck up if what i said upset you
xinxi: yeah, a little bit, because my wife is going to study there.
cazalla: probably both full of marxists cunts though, they are everywhere down here
xinxi: my wife is going to study there next year.
cazalla: that bitcoin group will do cash buys over $5,000 otc in their office
RagnarDanneskjol: Oh - didnt kknow they were international yet
cazalla: i guess you can use circle, that is what i'm using now, i just transfer the coins out immediately
RagnarDanneskjol: oh yea - forgot I heard the 10% madness. hmm - will look into localbtc for him then
xinxi: the exchange commission fee and wire fee in australia is bloody high as far as I know.
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, coinjar costs an extra 10% now, there is cointree.com.au although i have not used them, a few people on localbitcoins
xinxi: i guess there are seldom any people from GMT+8.
xinxi: is there any body still here?
jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge.
punkman: I should put more features in the thing
punkman: jurov, oic I missed a zero there
xanthyos: ever think about what max keiser and stacy herbert look like when they're fucking?
cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise
cazalla: mircea_popescu, he has not been back since he mentioned the feed
punkman: seems like the only sensible option at this time
mircea_popescu: this may be the first time in history someone asks to have shares tranferrred into warrants o.O
punkman: mircea_popescu: about those bbet shares, can they be delivered in a year or something? don't want to let them evaporate via coinbr fees just yet
mircea_popescu: o the wallet ?
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: almost there, but all the moving parts with threads due to supybot/electrum make my head hurt
RagnarDanneskjol: punkman - how goes the deed project?
RagnarDanneskjol: the site looks nice xinxi
xinxi: I actually have built the exchange.
xinxi: Thanks to all of you for the suggestions.
xinxi: right, human see what they want to see.
xinxi: i solve problems, not matter how simple the method I use.
mircea_popescu: of course there is. but that bias isn't my point.
mircea_popescu: coming back to college and letting the boys consult me as an experienced man of affairs. And having finished this process of thinking I wired Carroll that I was ready to join him."
mircea_popescu: but anyway : "I was flattered by his interest, so I thought it over. That is, I indulged in what young men frequently mistake for thought. In imagination, I saw my name over the door and myself in a fine glass office looking out and watching clerks taking in money. I had, in anticipation, the thrill of buying one store after another and going from town to town on tours of inspection. I tickled my fancy with the idea of
mircea_popescu: here we go. course meanwhile wiipedia, reddit and the rest of the charade stoile it.
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mircea_popescu: where is that write-up, with the intellectuals
mircea_popescu: i was like, having prop bets while watching it. "does he fuck the teenager"
mircea_popescu: this means you're not particularly looking for evidence, you're moreover chasing a vision or w/e they call daydreaming these days.
RagnarDanneskjol: billybob gives me the creeps
mircea_popescu: xinxi look, proof is a problem of the observer. i listed two major counts : one that it never went anywhere before, the other that it's already done, by bitbet. neither of these impressed you.
xinxi: National University of Singapore. it’s the best school of Singapore.
xinxi: brilliant. but how do you know it’s not worth doing? is there any evidence for that?
mircea_popescu: xinxi all the things you don't say are informative. i'm a mage of silences.
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sgornick you ever got a hold of cazalla in the end ?
mircea_popescu: nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is.
mircea_popescu: your best move is to actually read the log, not like people don't get things to do all the time, that's actually worth doing
xinxi: a place some one can trade using the black-schole models.
mircea_popescu: what makes you think you're the guy to do that ?
xinxi: yeah, but i want to change the situation by building a fair exhcange.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ << that's probably the recoird holding btc binary option to date.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option
xinxi: that makes them gambling sites.
mircea_popescu: so then ?
xinxi: yeah, right. I know the situation.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason binary options aren't used in finance.
mircea_popescu: there's about five hundred dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in fiat, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: there's about a dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in bitcoin
xinxi: the volatility of bitcoin is too high
RagnarDanneskjol: it is explained in the article above
xinxi: That’s interesting, but how to deal with the collateral thing?
xinxi: the volume is not bad.
RagnarDanneskjol: there are no more options on mpex to be clear: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/
RagnarDanneskjol: not laughing @ you xinxi - just the comment left in your otc rating
xinxi: is there any options trader?
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thickasthieves: here have another 2%
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I was going to ask that, and then I realised that I didn't want to know the answer.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck wa sthat ?!
thickasthieves: probly for the best
thickasthieves: andreas does bare the devil's peak
BingoBoingo: Once crosses were made child asks parent "Where are the nails?"
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: You hear the story about the parent and the child. Their cat was pregnant, whole litter delivered dead. Child said "let's make crosses"
thickasthieves: probly the part where he's still breathing
BingoBoingo: So I refuse to learn Andreas's last name. as a style guide is developed... Does Andreas the Greek work as a canonical term? Is it unambiguous enough?
ben_vulpes: http://www.metmuseum.org/research/metpublications/Art_and_the_Empire_City_New_York_1825_1861 << tonight's reading
asciilifeform read 'newsweeklied' in the style of 'horst wessel lied' - should probably go to sleep
cazalla: BingoBoingo, he will be in town next month, perhaps i take the video camera for an exclusive
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably in his mind, it somehow 'doesn't count' if you spread 'unknowingly' - just like spreading obola is 'unknowing' until satan signs your death certificate with the word
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for all his sin-sistience, mircea_popescu does miss things in the logs
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield. << have you met TempleOS yet?
asciilifeform: comic << lol, grandfather of 'commander keen'
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X-Rob: mircea_popescu: Pfft. These bastards with their saves and retries and everything. When we lost our third life, we had to start again from world 1, level 1!
mircea_popescu: X-Rob like, remember back before dlh ? kids had to actually work for their gaming experience ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> !up PinkPosixPXE << now this is one of the better handle's i've seen lately
asciilifeform: X-Rob: they might learn very soon...
X-Rob: asciilifeform: I have some kids. They're... 9 and 6. These kids will never know what it's like to not have internet. This AMAZES me.
asciilifeform: microphone << as a kid, i had some cassettes from my brother, who had bk-0010 at school. all i could do was throw them in a tape deck & listen.
ben_vulpes: how can i dissipate max energy with other people's public keys, i ask you
ben_vulpes: hey this is the wrong kind of dac for this channel
asciilifeform: there are not so many ways to do a dac.
mircea_popescu: mostly because by now they can be made within microohm
X-Rob: I made one of them!
X-Rob: is that the old crappy parallel-to-audio-out crappy sound thing?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'covox' was an actual product. and there was a similar item, 'disney sound source' (yes!)
ben_vulpes: it was either going to be you or mircea_popescu, asciilifeform :P
X-Rob: asciilifeform: I played around with the Vortrax when I was a young bloke. That was a precursor to that I believe.
BingoBoingo didn't have computer till this century, simply shocked self with disposable camera capacitor and then got the point
asciilifeform: i bet BingoBoingo built his own 'covox speechthing' clone in the '90s like the rest of us.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You see that's the mistake. Talk to every device as if the conversation is an accident. Use the auido plugs.
mircea_popescu: jesus remember the days pure html sites had problems with cpu usage ?
asciilifeform doesn't get the eight-inch reference here
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well these are the sorts of fucktards that wear "please rob me" BTC t-shirts and slacks
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, worthless in any sense we'd care. obviously he can sell them shaving cream or w/e it is he does for a living.
X-Rob: that appears to be the closest, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: entirely different protocols. prior to modern-age ata and scsi, disk interfaces generally were more involved with the actual drive mechanics (head selection/motion, etc)
mircea_popescu: Dot TK is the only top level domain name registry that provides free domain names. Get your free domain name today, before it's gone.
BingoBoingo: Wait, people use adapters and don't just cup their balls and ope shit works?
X-Rob: ST-506 is the way to go
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no ide or scsi in these
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the whole discussion was a modern-flash to esdi adapter
asciilifeform: X-Rob: there aren't all that many folks who actually want to -use- museum-grade machinery with any regularity.
BingoBoingo: The truly scary thing is that as periperal as Andreas is... I think he has more fans than compromised Gavin and Hearn together.
BingoBoingo: @aantonop Wait, you are the one with victims, but I am the troll? @DanielJonss @DorianSatoshi @newsweeklied @ethankirschner
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asciilifeform: they do. golden toilet, cost $maxint.
X-Rob: asciilifeform: they already exist.
asciilifeform: the ancient hdd in these (such as my 3620) is always the most fragile part, being mechanical and very old (1986 in my case)
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thickasthieves: some of the cover versions are pretty good too
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thickasthieves: there's actually a dedicated punk christain label
timeaftertime: Darwin clearly does not believe anyone but Darwin Fish is faithfully teaching the truth of God's Word.
mircea_popescu: The Glam Nuns Band would be pretty rad.
thickasthieves: i had a christian punk band on my label in the 2000s
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield.
thickasthieves: there, stalk away
luke-jr_: yeah, I was going to object to cult, but the dictionary says it's okay
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mircea_popescu: thickasthieves you know... this is either pareidolia or else wife's been away for too long ?
kakobrekla: the castle thing
decimation: successes but they may be symptomatic of general failure"
decimation: Thiel implied that facebook was a general failure << http://conversationswithbillkristol.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Thiel_conversations_transcript.pdf << "And so we would like to say Facebook is a specific success, it must mean some general success. And so Facebook is a great business,and therefore it will solve all the world’s problems. And I think the modality I prefer to think of is, that there are specific
thickasthieves: i knew these austrian guys that used to say "i made a castle" when they made a big shit
mircea_popescu: oops, i mean... it was butt from the security up with a ground mind
mircea_popescu: it was built from the ground up with security in mind
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already... << I mean Thiel was an early facebutt investor
thickasthieves: zonky: "yeah i wrote a calculator in ether, now i have to pay my computer to do math. ether is the future"
mircea_popescu: but maybe it's time for the 4th wall to be breached
mircea_popescu: obviously their virtual personas have long been a commodity
asciilifeform: declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already...
cazalla: the attacked got his details from the usms list that they leaked and then pretended to be a journalist to rope him in
mircea_popescu: lol wait. he got owned by the usms while using usg operated silk road ?!
thickasthieves: welcome to the celebration of all that is perverse!
chiral: im telling the news
cazalla: so the guy behind that australian bitcoin group, sam lee, is the same guy behind bitcoin reserve who got tricked into clicking a link which gave the attacker access to his gmail lol
mircea_popescu: why research ? suport the virus!
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BingoBoingo: Such repetition on their part.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo recall scammers calling mpoe-pr a troll back in the day ?
mircea_popescu: guy goes around neighbourhood in his vw van, taking deprs to their new basements...
mircea_popescu: "knock knock" "who's there ?" "i am from b-a ma'am. i bought your daughter on otc. bring her out, don't bother packing anything"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes probably the next logical step is declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling.
BingoBoingo: @BBoingo No, I remember the time I tweeted source code that didnt contain malware. Later, they added an executable with malware. Troll
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mircea_popescu: http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-hacked-the-snappening-2014-10 << clearly, the cloud is the answer.
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nubbins`: so alice and bob enter a room, the entrance of which is controlled by carol
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Pepperball is an over the counter thing
mircea_popescu: decimation the press is readily reporting "national outcries" of some topics but not others.
mircea_popescu: so then... drlooksome ?
mircea_popescu: only after it's the done thing would they flock to do it. but for now, they won't hear of it.
decimation: "the rule-following beetle men" << asciilifeform - the same ones who would conspire to breach attorney-client privilege ;)
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves well good teaching aid. otherwise kinda banal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers. << now this is an interesting point.
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: that experiment, described in 'flying circus of physics' among other places, was traditionally done with a violin bow.
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asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/cidrap-we-believe-there-scientific-evidence-ebola-has-potential-be-airborne << with lit citations.
asciilifeform: if there is an 'x' such that 'if only i can make it to x, i might live' - that's where they'll go.
asciilifeform: the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers.
BingoBoingo: Also look how far people travel in their last days
asciilifeform: actually it is quite like the zombie plague
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> xanthyos: that story never made sense - why would we get own coffins << it makes perfect sense if you consider it for the communicatioon exercise it actually is.
BingoBoingo: I like the people who say "come on obola isn't zombie plague" not realizing that unlike pretend zombie plague obola leaves people real dead.
asciilifeform: if they're used, it'll be 3-4 clients per.
asciilifeform: the rule-following beetle men, they will read 'victims must be buried in coffins' and literally order it done, in precisely that way
nubbins`: make em the right shape, you can nest 'em like wading pools.
xanthyos: maybe there's a lobbyist in washington who works for big coffin
xanthyos: maybe only the front row is coffins
xanthyos: it's more believable as a conspiracy theory if they don't go to the extent of telling the people there will be mass graves
xanthyos: the fema camps full of empty coffins have already been built
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing << Not so young, socrates tried to implement it
asciilifeform: no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing
asciilifeform: i suspect that quarantine on certain people will be enforced very honestly, while on others (as above example) - not quite.
mircea_popescu: anywya, it'll be hilarious once it comes out that whites actually have some natural resistence to the disease, which blacks do not. that sort of thing is what makes one suspect god is in it for the lulz.
BingoBoingo: And it really is GRIDS rather than AIDS to shame the system that could not forsee that most cases would happen to hetrosexual african women.
BingoBoingo: But this shit doesn't work in two dimesions, because sweat can't spread GRIDS or the flu
mircea_popescu: actually it's pretty close to aids from what i gather.
BingoBoingo: The thing about ebola is that people talk about it either like it's the flu and easy to spead or GRIDS which is hard to spread when it is in the middle, but leaning closer to the flu
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work. // you have to provide a hostmask for <user>
BingoBoingo: Ah, around these parts carnations are "funeral flowers" So you bring the carnations and ask the girl if they remind her of anything. Inevitably she mentions an older relative. Then... That's about where we're at nao.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I thought carnations were the way.
asciilifeform: what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work.
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> You seriously need to stop with the trolling. It is extremely unprofessional. I've already apologized for hurting your feelings.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you may have to break down and get the book.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in fact, when, as a boy, i first read of lisp machines, i somehow thought this is how they worked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on the basis of that description, easily extensible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there one which invites strangers to format your hd?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: elisp is a terrifyingly pre-1970s-style crock of shit. e.g., brings back the infamous 'funarg problem'
mircea_popescu: "bingbot 0.0.0 Ben AsselstineBingbot turns you into an IRC cyborg. When someone says "uptime" to you, it answers them back with your uptime. When someone says "vi?" to you, it answers them back with the last file you opened in vim. When someone says "search: foo" to you, it gets a random link to a gif on imgur.com/r/gifs/new and shows them that. written in c++, requires glibmm, curlpp and sigc++."
mircea_popescu: what is this, the special internets ?
mircea_popescu: "o look guise, i have an article which sais people make fun of idiots! therefore your making fun of my idiocy is rendered null and void!11"
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> this really is ridiculous. Again, straight out of http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point --- straight harassment and trolling. Because you don't want to actually work on shipping product.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather give some young uns a boost.
BingoBoingo: Well in 2016 should be able to afford the south park guys
BingoBoingo: I thought the tradehill crowd played that out already
nubbins`: the... spores...
asciilifeform: nubbins`: at least you didn't open up for the spores
mircea_popescu: reviewing records, it seems i've been on the capitulating side of this argument once before
BingoBoingo: The impression of incompetence offers tha failed agent quite a bit of plausible deniability
asciilifeform: basic case master recipe from both sides of cold war - pretend to be an unrelated animal that nevertheless merits close access to the chumper's personal guts.
mircea_popescu: not the right kind of derp.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think anyone but you really sees the usg case officer angle.
asciilifeform: my favourite hypothesis re mr. spam is that he is a scammer masquerading as an incompetent usg case officer.
BingoBoingo: It is a disease of a lot of the swiftly discountable crackpots
mircea_popescu: there is that yea
mircea_popescu: well yea, but i mean, the only way to verify that part is through what the people say
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