PinkPosixPXE: but the last week has been really busy
PinkPosixPXE: the idscussions around the patches, and testing, bitcoin foundation, git signing, etc.
PinkPosixPXE: kakobrekla: I followed much of it for the past few weeks
kakobrekla: PinkPosixPXE were you actually following the debate?
jurov: PinkPosixPXE: current status is: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev , no git at all
PinkPosixPXE: I can also help you guys figure out the gpg git key signing if that's still a debacle or issue for you, but I'll have to ask more questions, and find out the scope/desires first, before we could dive into that. But I'm happy to help throw my extra cpu cycles at this stuff :)
punkman: jurov, ah yeah that might be a good way to duct-tape this together
PinkPosixPXE: kakobrekla: well it's all that + full time syseng work.. so .. been trying to find time and get rid of the unimportant ones
jurov: punkman i can create another mailing list for that
punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue?
PinkPosixPXE: yea, I can point out several pages where people complain about hte dependency issues, and so I thought 'well this script would fix them all' then idiots don't go using berklydb/bdb 5.3 or another versoin that isn't wallet or blockchain storage compatible
kakobrekla: PinkPosixPXE ditch the bad hobbies
PinkPosixPXE: mod6 expressed interest, and I set it up after running into issues on one of my instances, and then tested it across a vagrant+virtualbox testing environment with a few debian and ubuntu distros.
PinkPosixPXE: I've been meaning to chat more on here about assisting with some of the bitcoin dev and testing work I've been watching go on, but I've been slammed with projects, I have too many projects/hobbies I'm beginning to think. Either way, I wrote up an install_bitcoin script that takes into account dependency issues for certain versoins of debian and ubuntu.. not sure if anyone would find it useful,
jurov: er.. in 14days of the request
jurov: and after that, shares+dividends will be delivered after 14 days of the request
PinkPosixPXE: 01:27 #bitcoin-assets: <+mircea_popescu> ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov << Thanks for adding it to the exchange and doling out some shares, and thanks as well jurov :)
bounce: footnotes are a major break in reading flow, so they're quite influential for the overall reading user experience and therefore the total amount of time the user gets to waste going back and forth
PeterL: depends on the feed, I think?
kakobrekla: but anyway a simplistic approach : estimate reading time by multiplying the word count by result of brainwallet test
PeterL: ok, now scoopbot should include the author.
kakobrekla: easier to make the call - click or not to click
bounce was about to say something about making the notice shorter, but estimated reading time? ew!
kakobrekla: once this works and if you are bored, add wordcount at the end of report and estimated reading time
kakobrekla: add the author?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 02:27:17; kakobrekla: PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url"
kakobrekla: is the syntax such that my great ass suggested?
PeterL: so scoopbot is ready (penguirker replacement), I suppose I need to talk to you about registering him in the chan?
nubbins`: preferably replace the blablas with something that at least passes checksum
jurov: with the blablablas?
assbot: Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers
bounce: how many man-years would it cost to come up with a decent web rendering engine these days?
bounce: years and years ago, and it didn't impress me with the w3c
nubbins`: bounce ever try the w3c browser
bounce: my, isn't that nice. google slowly breaking stuff in browsers to push their own craptastic contraption with copious user friendlyness and vendor lock-in sauce
kakobrekla: well they are standard for me
mircea_popescu: so they're more like spotdards ?
mike_c: but they work, which is also not standard.
mike_c: as a consumer of kako's standards, I can vouch they are anything but standard
nubbins`: i support the standard standards
nubbins`: perhaps we'll call this the superstandard, yes? set it apart a bit?
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's gonna be the standard going forward.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla omg whay the haet!
mircea_popescu: i think this should be the standard bot calling procedure. say its name.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty fucking great, because the special char space was getting crowded
mircea_popescu: tbh, punkman made a major innovation with the bot. that it responds when you call it, like
nubbins`: use the genesis deed address for donations 8)
mircea_popescu: then again i shouldn't laugh, the aborigines also took pride in smearing shit all over their faces or w/e it is they did, when the bitcoin colonists found them.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: >Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account. <<< ahahahaha bejesus.
nubbins`: that ^ is then used as a brainwallet passphrase to get the public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF and its associated private key
nubbins`: if you sha256sum the text of that deed, you'll get AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 as a result
nubbins`: thestringpuller ehh it does what it should
mircea_popescu: all the unix stuff is "eh, whatevs"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu funny thing is, pbcopy is the only osx-specific tool, and it's the only one that preserves \n line endings
mircea_popescu: jurov: *sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier <<< that's how it will work ?
joecool: oh so it has a reference in the blockchain too?
mircea_popescu: if you look through the logs the spec is a pastebin plastered like a dozen diff places.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << just about right.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: maybe swol can sell it? <<< it definitely can. it's been publicly announced it closes, someone wants to make an offer they know where to make it.
assbot: Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there will be qntra writeup soon
assbot: The Underhanded C Contest » 2007
BingoBoingo: Thanks, I just wanted to link to a relevant past challenge in the writeup http://www.underhanded-c.org/_page_id_16.html
mircea_popescu: if anyone from b-a gets in there im buyin' you a beer.
bounce: yeah probably a slander on the muppets. sorry jim!
bounce: is this proof the USG is completely filled with muppets?
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2014 19:28:51; mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/PnsGiZ2A <<< dude... this is just what i do. i save the people who save people from FIRE
mircea_popescu: also, anyone own aged/trusted accounts on BlackHatWorld TrafficPlanet WarriorForum DigitalPoint SitePoint they might wish to sell or share ?
punkman: that'd help getting the hosting bill to 9k a month
mike_c: good choice. now just convince management you need to visit the servers often.
mircea_popescu: bounce money is nothing these days.
kakobrekla: mike_c actually im going to be moving it tonight it seems atm still on hetzner, new home is securedservers.com as anyone with the public ip address can figure out
bounce: wtf does ovh even demand dox at all? isn't money enough these days?
mircea_popescu: then it needs to be stabbed like fifty times.
kakobrekla: sorta on topic, i tried to get a box at OVH and when they asked for dox, i asked for pgp. after about 10 days, i got a reply : You can upload the documents to Dropbox or google Docs and password protect them. And provide us with the password. And we will be able to validate your account.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: rapidssl transmits certificates in the clear via email
mircea_popescu: punkman http://trilema.com/2012/big-rock-candy-mountain/ "The punk rolled up his big blue eyes And said to the jocker, Sandy,"
mircea_popescu: a punk is a young boy used (generally against his will) for the sexual gratification of adult males.
punkman: mircea_popescu: what's the oxymoron
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, the same naming convention as for websites (distinct first two letters) works here, too.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> "newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'. << well, at that time they were!
ben_vulpes: that's the oddest damn donation mechanism i've seen in my life.
punkman: "NODL had spotted losses after he joined the company in 2003, but had mistakenly put them down to flaws in its stock control system."
assbot: Ted Baker loses £5m after employee steals seven tonnes of clothes - Telegraph
punkman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11205477/Ted-Baker-loses-5m-after-employee-steals-seven-tonnes-of-clothes.html
assbot: Giuseppina Morlacchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
kakobrekla: >Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account.
jurov: thestringpuller BingoBoingo: transferred
thestringpuller: nubbins`: did the poster ever leave canada? I tracked it last night and it said "scanned"
jurov: Okay, it turns out the balance changes were just cancelled orders and S.WOL balance did not vanish yet
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
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punkman: kakobrekla: what's the custom rss URL, maybe it'd be useful for bitbet.py
kakobrekla: (its still using twitter and i just pushed some nonsense there)
nubbins`: punkman this thing is coming together :D
nubbins`: assuming no other deeds get submitted, address should match up as well
assbot: The Underhanded C Contest » 2014 » September
jurov: *sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier
jurov: asciilifeform: i mean, accepted by turdatron . that does not mean they are valid in any sense
jurov: asciilifeform: on the listinf/btc-dev there will be links to list with accepted patches and their signatures
punkman: yeah got LF then
nubbins`: and then pasting into text editor
asciilifeform: 'Ti am pleased to learn that o'dwyer is alive. he, or at least a fellow by very same name, and i, went to school together.
asciilifeform: 'There were a few serialization tricks. Submitter Arthur ODwyer writes usernames and IDs into a string' - from last year's winner.
jurov: the TODO links
jurov: ben_vulpes, asciilifeform: it should accept patches/sigs as described in http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev
nubbins`: but if i pipe it to my clipboard instead of using curl -o, and then paste into a new text file, it preserves \n
nubbins`: my local file has \n, but if i grab the raw deed from pastebin / dpaste via curl and save it to a file, it's all \r\n
assbot: The Underhanded C Contest
joecool: what is this? is there documentation on it yet?
nubbins`: yeah, if i pull the hex down via json it verifies ok
Pierre_Rochard: chetty: keep in mind, you would host the database yourself, ideally on localhost without exposing it to the internet
Pierre_Rochard: chetty: that’s reasonable, though only archived ‘source documents’ could be encrypted with PGP without really hurting performance. The other accounting records would use postgresql’s built in encryption features: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/encryption-options.html
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: updated. jurov: any word on the turdatron?
FabianB: http://guardtime.com/ksi-technology/ <-- are they trying to market their own fork of closed-source namecoin?
kakobrekla: the parrot.
mike_c: <+kakobrekla> idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << I can't think of any examples to refute this.
punkman: so did everyone drop out of the btc games too?
ThickAsThieves: i dont think either of those values is known
kakobrekla: idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category
ThickAsThieves: is the game not an asset of SWOL's?
mike_c: maybe they'll give me ATC for it ;)
ThickAsThieves: the game
ThickAsThieves: then my final crit would be that maybe it shouldnt have IPOd at all
mike_c: i don't know what the right answer is, and I am not a master marketer. but if the games had been more fun there would have been more traction than 0.
ThickAsThieves: then stopped cuz well of course
chetty: frankly I didnt have the patience for it, I played a couple times but kept forgetting to check back
mike_c: like any business, some did. and they didn't want to play. many additions/changes were made, with no effect.
mike_c: the market (consumers) certainly voted
ThickAsThieves: but if theres any desire to kill it, it should of course be killed
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure we got to learn whether it sucked
mike_c: yeah, we didn't do each other any favors.
mike_c: you sure? it was at the same time and only 1 share.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu nope, not the french one. gyrojet went out of print because, iirc, of misfires.
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jurov> hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today
assbot: EPIC 2014: recalling a decade-old imagining of the media’s future | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/epic-2014-recalling-a-decade-old-imagining-of-the-tech-driven-media-future/
punkman: is the website snappy for everyone?
punkman: bug fixed 3 hours ago by upstream, living on the edge!
jurov: hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today
punkman: BingoBoingo: you rascal, triggered another bug in bot with your last two deeds
Vexual: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/forget-the-real-melbourne-cup-form-guide-this-is-what-you-need-if-you-know-nothing-about-racing/story-fnibcaa0-1227110357781?nk=c075cca746594e4227002a4c821d4a6f
Vexual: count the teeth make th ebet
assbot: User comments around the project: TRO LLC
mircea_popescu: no the "platform"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo isn't this the guy with the totally failed pseudo-kiclstarter max keiser campaign thing ?
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell devthedev you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: the worst.
BingoBoingo: First atc, then X-BT, nao WoL
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? <<< isn't this really that french invention ? the rocket powered grenade that regularly gets stopped in branches etc and kills the shooter ?
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. << yeah but then if they get in an altercation with that person later not answering usefully usually makes the difference between a dismissed case and a felony convicion.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> Beauty << looking for beauty in la ? what, like on the street ?! you want beauty, go to burbank.
asciilifeform: (picture a 'question mark' shape. easy to keep turn radius wide if there is room)
ben_vulpes: i find it hard to believe that corners can be turned with the control forces effected by mems systems
asciilifeform: there's a 'golden toilet' vendor claiming to be churning out the proverbial 'bullet that goes around corners' on precisely this principle
ben_vulpes: nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner.
ben_vulpes: "please list all people with whom you cohabitated or were in a relationship for the last two years so that we can ask them if you're going to go shoot them"
ben_vulpes: this is similar to the canadian firearms protocol, where when during the process of acquisition they ask one to
ben_vulpes was working on the big engine handling license for a bit
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> decimation kinda what we're trying recently. << oh hey we're paying people nao? who's this "we" and hey jurov what's the story on an addy, eh?
BingoBoingo: Well, old. From the days where scrypt was to many the anti-GPU pill, and delivered BTC ASIC were about a year away
asciilifeform refrains from launching into rant re: how you can actually fit 10x more gates in fpga if you start 'cheating' by using secret data re: the internal layout, and how any system which offers this capability is actually telling lies when advertised with its highest-level intended abstractions as the correct ones.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: first unrolled design on spartan... and the only one << wait which 'spartan' actually had room for unrolled sha2 ?
BingoBoingo: Oh. punkbot no longer has if bingo then fuck you code
fluffypony: The restaurants were phenomenal, everything else was overhyped
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kakobrekla: unless you improve the math how sha is calculated, not really
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i can appreciate this view. nevertheless, from a businessman persepective, the people who don't give a shit, it's one year, five months.
kakobrekla: did liek 350 mhash on spartan when others were doing 200
kakobrekla: and the only one.
decimation: agreed. who knows about the existing designs, but I doubt that massive gains are available there either (more than 10x)
mircea_popescu: heck, even intel pretty much scrapped the smaller-print plans
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, the gains are likely to come from bettere design not from better substrate going forward
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell nubbins` did the poster ship okay? it never crossed over the border ~_~
decimation: at any rate, I think some of the miners that have delivered were working on 20 nm stuff
decimation: if that's from their copy, then that nudges the probability of scam up a few orders of magnitude
assbot: Bitcoin Brothers Aim To Disrupt Bitcoin Mining With New, More Powerful, Supercomputers | TechCrunch
cazalla: is this bs? http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/02/bitcoin-brothers-aim-to-disrupt-bitcoin-mining-with-new-more-powerful-supercomputers/ "Bitcoin Brothers is working with TSMC to manufacture its proprietary 3D 16nm FinFET ASICs"
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-startups-may-get-transitional-licence/ there is nothing much else going on today so no complaints!
mircea_popescu: pretty much everytihng that happens here is the blueprint for large swaths of future,
mircea_popescu: i like how people can't quite bring themselves to come out with it plain, "i'm invested in this thing bitcoin is gonna kill so...!!!"
mircea_popescu: this delusion of choice is perhaps the most amusing part of the fiat world. he only sucks the cock if he wants to, you see.
decimation: libertard/socialist types definitely detect that bitcoin menaces them, but they rarely come up with the right words to describe the threat
assbot: The Future of Payments and Open Source Support | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings
decimation: lol here's a blog from some guy who was offended by the scammer tip4commit guy, but he vents his hatred at ... bitcoin http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/11/2/payments-in-the-future/
decimation: it's fair to say that the 'nexus' of sovereignty in the us is the supreme court, by default. congress and the elected executives refuse to deal with simmering issues, so they tend to end up in the court
mircea_popescu: well, the us also has an unrepresentative congress.
decimation: in the us that's exactly what would/has happened, on a variety of fronts
mircea_popescu: decimation no, i appreciate your point, sg sc didn't start legislating out of the blue.
decimation: cause it's the law you see
mircea_popescu: wbahahaha. so i can fuck a chick in the ass, just, gay dude can't fuck another gay dude ? lol.