asciilifeform: other thing is, when reading his 'i'm a surrender monkey, usg cannot be killed' posts, must remember that he's a 'tenured sea cucumber' in the sense that he keeps a dependopotamus, it birthed children, and he knows he won't be making it out of the gravity pit.
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear about someone other than mr mold, who did this
asciilifeform: along with 1000 other people
asciilifeform: i could've easily went there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform strange that he tried to copy bitcoin but didn't manage to think of the assbot voice.
asciilifeform: johntraveller: as i gather, he saw the quality of the 'followers' and went full perelman.
asciilifeform: johntraveller: the worst thing, arguably, that ever happened to mr mold, is the 'moldosphere'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah, I followed a bunch of the NRx guys for a long time as I hadn’t encountered anyone else saying the same things. but I got bored after a while, they clearly don’t have any plans or goals
johntraveller: I emailed the guy but he seemed massively tinfoil
asciilifeform: mr mold is a junkyard dog, with all that it entails. did not grow up with classical education, no latin, no greek. me neither.
cazalla: kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC. <<< a lot of the accounts were empty from the sample bitcomsec provide
mircea_popescu: johntraveller chan's kinda on the fence re moldbug. you can search for him to get the various discussions if you care.
bounce: alright, n'mind me then
mircea_popescu: johntraveller which brings us to the next question. how do you distinguish this from the usual usg psyops ? astroturfing/trolling for pseudo-communities ?
bounce: googling gives a couple of instant brainrot inducing "solutions". man, freedesktop is bad for the brain and no mistake.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: prior to 2012, yes. but since about a year or two ago people have started to cluster around the ‘neoreactionary’ label. that image is the meta-community growing self-aware
bounce: as a totally wild guess, could try and stop nvidia from modesetting so the intel thing gets to do it
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: yes. but there’s a fringe of right-wing people (who have been slowly leaving)
mircea_popescu: johntraveller isn't the lesswrong crowd flamingly libtard ?
asciilifeform: although arguably a box with the blog driver may as well be a winblows box
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: interesting. I would say the most active pre-existing groups (in order of size) were the manosphere guys, the HBD/white nationalist bloggers, the ‘orthosphere’ (a bunch of catholic bloggers), the lesswrong crowd
mircea_popescu: but did you purge the files in between tries ?
asciilifeform: bounce: i'm stuck with this machine in the field, and it gets 1 fps or so when running solely using 'intel' card switched on (which works)
mircea_popescu: johntraveller i know because at the time i had my research follow the thing to try and ascertain wtf this is from outside. the response came out as most of hte nodes are either tiny or long abandoned blogs, and pretty much nothing stil active.
jurov noticed his mailman addon looks exactly like a tumor, in other news
cazalla: i wonder how they are finding qntra
johntraveller: http://akarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dark-enlightenment-map-1-5.png < kinda. a bunch of pre-existing online communities started to find each other, and moldbug was a key node in that graph
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: From Mises to Carlyle: my sick journey to the dark side of the force
johntraveller: so he started looking up other anti-dem sources, eventually came across carlyle, to a lesser extent froude
johntraveller: with the obvious caveat I’m describing a fiarly heteregenous group of people and ideas so my summary will contain my own bias
johntraveller: so xenosystems is the blog of nick land
mircea_popescu: maybe they really do deserve to be killed ?
mircea_popescu: "Turner wrote on his blog June 2 that three federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" for their decision in a case involving ordinances banning handguns in Chicago and suburban Oak Park."
cazalla: nubbins`: the city has "heritage regulations" for the downtown core, it's a nightmare <<< we have maintain the facade regulations in some parts of Melbourne, i like it tbh, it's the one part of town that looks nice
johntraveller: cheers, I just added myself - found the otc wiki instructions
cazalla: anyway, i update that post with the log of our chat, i guess i was a little harsh but he would only give me fluff
mircea_popescu: should take about an hour or so for the stuff to propagate, provided you sent it properly.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept <<< this, srsly. as all the various prettygirls are to soon find out, their choices aren't exactly what they thought they would be.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << yeah prolly not a bad blog idea.
mircea_popescu: and now thing they gotta do "kyc" for that.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
gribble: Error: '6C24' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinero-project-seeks-150000-for-bitcoin-gift-cards/ <<< a better play is to publish the chat than just excerpts, otherwise you're open to accusations of cherry picking/out of context/etc. <<< few too many last night, guy got snippy and well that is the result
BingoBoingo: Well, sometimes the handled has a longer lifespan than the handler expects. Like pet tortoises or parrots that get passed down by different generations, because why the fuck would they live longer than 7 sequential dogs.
asciilifeform: 'shuddup and oil the compressor'
asciilifeform: the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall. << I guess I have homework now.
cazalla: jurov: cazalla what is inercia? <<< i'm just quoting the guy
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!' << Depends on how well they obey their leash. But every now and then you get a Hal Turner.
cazalla: jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask <<< i didn't get answers to my questions, we just talked about bitcoin a little
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall.
rithm: the trigger itself will be classified NFA
asciilifeform: the end result of his work will be that the m16 trigger spring part is declared regulated by royal fiat
asciilifeform: imho the bugger's a usg agent provocateur.
BingoBoingo: Another story on him coming soon.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla the next quantcast qntra stats should be inspiring
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Not in the court order.
punkman: mircea_popescu: that's how much BTC the unresolved bets are worth if pot-favored side wins or hanbot-favored side wins
mircea_popescu: ah then nm
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/31/atc-closing-statement/#comment-52635
mircea_popescu: i gotta say, this was one of the most satisfying fuming sessions in recent memory.
mircea_popescu: thenb they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras and other jewelries and selling them on etsy.
mircea_popescu: whereas the female obnoxious adolescent camps could be in a swamp. they may wear whatever they make themselves, gotta build swamphouses out of planks they make themselves and gotta spend 6 hours a day looking for pearls in the muck.
mircea_popescu: actually this is starting to take shape in my head. the male obnoxious adolescent camps could be like 3-400 miles north of nubbins' deck.
mircea_popescu: two years of having to wash toilets with toothbrush for having declared the pointers wrongly.
asciilifeform: in that sense, perhaps. but know that i left with the distinct impression that most of the folks standing for the final exam were masters of cribbing.
mircea_popescu: s/left/otherleft/
mircea_popescu: punkman could whitespace to the left of Recent bundles lines be used to include a truncated list of contributor names ?
mircea_popescu: the factories in question are called separation plants.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heroes are the product of factories in the same sense weapon grade uranium is
asciilifeform: 'mortification of the flesh' via 'compilers 4xx' and 'operating systems 4xx'
asciilifeform: that's quite like the school i went to.
mircea_popescu: actually fuck that. there should be a draft. russian style, all males over 18 spend two years coding under the whip.
mircea_popescu: there should be a conviciton of forced labour @alcatel
mircea_popescu: open source is for when you know how to code, not for when you can't find a job with any of the closed source sweatshops.
mircea_popescu: no dude. fucking swinger parties specifically boot young single males. because nobody wants them. boo hoo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and ironically enough this guy was already the recipient of a stuf and learn to read, bitch. but no, on he goes. "let me write software to improve girlfriends. oh, i've never had a girlfriend. but it's A SWINGER PARTY so it;'s all okaty right ?"
mircea_popescu: kinda how the bot got devoiced.
mircea_popescu: im here to get away from the idiocy.
mircea_popescu: s/There is no pre-sale. There are no tokens. /There is no pre-sale. There are no takers. /
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell peterl wouldja throw prestonbryne.com into the feeds?
mircea_popescu: the mere fact that something so stupid as ;;later tell ^ reference actually works is testament to the incredible coolness of technologies deployed here.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: (infinite variance and undefinied mean are not in fact different mathematical realities, merely two perceptibles of the same one(
mircea_popescu: (well, variance = 0 in the degenerate case)
mircea_popescu: directly equivalent to "don't you worry your pretty head, the black holes won't devour your soul along with anything you ever touched."
assbot: Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence
mircea_popescu: as an aside : socialism, in mathematical terms, is defined as "don't you worry your pretty head, power laws don't exist"
assbot: Coding, Fast and Slow: Developers and the Psychology of Overconfidence
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/31/atc-closing-statement/ << pls to insert deedlink ?
mircea_popescu: and since we're on the topic : sigkill does not go to the kernel. it goes to... init!
ben_vulpes: there are so many things that could have happened.
nubbins`: now there's something to chew on
mircea_popescu: anyway, to close the previous : human sexuality is built out of transgression. that transgression connotes sexuality is unavoidable given this. obviously lots of dumb shit will grow on that fertile ground, such as rape, or the puritan church. large ship, lotsa barnacles.
nubbins`: but some of them were thought-provoking
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: speaking of sickness, i visited the rijksmuseum this summer and they had "sicknesses" stuck up all over the collections
nubbins`: mirror's curved to make the driver more cautious
mircea_popescu: if it's broken, it's not broken for the reason he offered.
nubbins`: you may, but you'll need to stretch that dough out a bit further before i can see what sort of loaf you're making
nubbins`: you're equating human behaviour to the physical properties of a curved surface
mircea_popescu: what next, objects in mirrors being larger than they appear is also a symptom of deep rooted sickness ?
gribble: wn: expound v 1: add details, as to an account or idea; clarify the meaning of and discourse in a learned way, usually in writing; "She elaborated on the main ideas in her dissertation" [syn: {elaborate}, {lucubrate}, {expatiate}, {exposit}, {enlarge}, {flesh out}, {expand}, {expound}, {dilate}] [ant: {abbreviate}, {abridge}, {contract}, {cut}, {foreshorten}, {reduce}, {shorten}] 2: (1 more message)
nubbins`: the pervasiveness of the "just a slut" line of thinking is a symptom of such a deep-rooted sickness in society that it's *almost* enough to make you feel pity for the people parroting it
mircea_popescu: kinda unobvious how this works for anyone that's not either a rapist or in law enforcement, which prolly fuels a lot of the "eh, she's just a slut" backlash.
nubbins`: "fuck you, ghomeshi, i want to leave" followed by a "fuck me? FUCK YOU" and a throat-slitting probably didn't seem wildly implausible at the time, either
nubbins`: if you were a woman alone with a guy who just slammed you against a wall by your throat and punched you in the head, you'd probably suck his dick to get outta there too
mats_cd03: 'i sucked a dick ... to get outta there ... i didn't like it' -victims
The20YearIRCloud: Not as high ranking I believe, but she was mid level back then
nubbins`: well i doubt she was an air force captain back then
The20YearIRCloud: At any rate though, i'm shocked that Jian could get away with that stuff with Lucy due to her ranking in the RCAF
The20YearIRCloud: Even better that Trinity is still the same girl :D
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah, they've developed him fantastically to replace trevor
The20YearIRCloud: people think they are, but they aren't, it says on the TV show itself that it's a documentary
The20YearIRCloud: No they're not
nubbins`: just so we're clear, you know these people are actors? ;p
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: ;;later tell bingoboingo if you want scoopbot to link to n00dz and tits, you just have to put them in your blog
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mockumentary | ... of a documentary and pretends to be a documentary. A mock documentary. The mockumentary "This is Spinal Tap" documents the fictional band Spinal Tap.
nubbins`: The20YearIRCloud not anymore 8)
nubbins`: Dark traffic is vexing because web publishers like to be able to offer their advertisers solid data on the quality of their readers.
assbot: The Guardian's Dark Social Traffic Problem - Business Insider
nubbins`: the crash and burn will reach temperatures so high that not even soot will remain
nubbins`: this is great, every less-than-admirable thing this guy has ever done is bubbling to the surface
bounce: the arrester wires aren't that much of a problem. it's the catapult that's a pain to maintain.
mircea_popescu: bounce there are reasons you can't have a decent meal in teh uk.
nubbins`: cbc is in a hard place these days. budget has been gutted by conservative govt's. they're less of a "great organization" with "values" every day
jurov: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788476607859356&set=vb.212653428775013&type=2&theater << mute this immediately after opening
mircea_popescu: ^ how about gtfo, the "public" is not equal to the libtard media, and nobody is to be held at random by randoim fuckwits dictating "what to do"
mircea_popescu: Theres nothing stopping the CBC from making a more fulsome disclosure, he said. They should be out there making their pitch about what a great organization they are, what their values are, what their processes are, what theyre going to do to ensure this doesnt happen again, what proactive steps theyve taken, their support for women in the workplace.
nubbins`: well y'know. if messy ghomeshi had sense, he wouldn't be in the pickle hes in
mircea_popescu: nubbins` chefs have more sense than these libtard wailchorus muppets.
nubbins`: chefs buy and maintain their own knives
mircea_popescu: if it comes to it, go to zaire, buy phone there, come back, keep it in roaming. company can pay for airplane fare both ways, hotel stay, underage zaire hookers and the roaming fees.
mircea_popescu: well, not really. fat on the brain disease.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would a "personality" fall for this bullshit is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: why even bother ? own the phone, like any fucking artisan owns the tools of his trade.
bounce: this is something where you'd want multiple VMs on the phone. not just "profiles", but (near-)complete OS images to fulfill context-bound functions
mircea_popescu: fuck them.
bounce: the IT dept. will thank you so much for having to deal with BYOD now
mircea_popescu: The public broadcaster believes its ownership of the smartphone refutes the former radio star’s claim that he was fired because of how he conducted himself in his “private life.” “The contents of that phone belong to the CBC — it’s the CBC’s property,” said a source familiar with the situation.
jurov: then moan
mircea_popescu: bounce the thing you do.
jurov: ben_vulpes: you said your job is herding of the cats, but you have problem with little bitching from me
bounce: anyway, so essentially anything you do causes entropy by waste heat. eventually heat death of the universe. but where does the energy to heat up come from?
nubbins`: "the committee: it worked for C++"
mircea_popescu: the wontwail.
bounce: they wail but won't
mircea_popescu: the only way to permanently cool is to enact a government-run heating process.
bounce: actually kinda weird. can't cool except move heat away and causing extra heat in the process
nubbins`: half the roads aren't wide enough for cars
nubbins`: no secrets in the battery
mircea_popescu: nubbins` o look! people built houses for their secret goat paramours or ?
mircea_popescu: nah, the only solution is icecream housing.
bounce: just add extra freezers to fix the perma in permafrost
mircea_popescu: bounce you don't understand how the building works. if they used stone it'd sink into the ice.
mircea_popescu: which is why i say it's stupid in the first place.
nubbins`: so if you wave enough $$$, you can do w/e the fuck you want. build a condo in the battery, w/e
mircea_popescu: but the notion that you can actually achieve this goal, just because it's noble, through making laws about it...
mircea_popescu: this is such nonsense. i mean yeah, i can appreciate what they're trying to achieve : avoiding towns looking like the owners of property, who are by and large despicable lemmings and would make everything into a bauhaus atrocity.
nubbins`: yeah. essentially, renovations are not allowed unless you keep your house in the style that was popular after the great fire in 1892
nubbins`: me either. i'd love a rooftop deck
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how a city ends up with the notion it may make a bylaw about whether one can or can not build a deck.
nubbins`: i get in touch with the city about this guy 3-4 times per year
nubbins`: now it's just sitting there, rotting, waiting to blow over and kill me while i bbq
nubbins`: so he removes the deck from the side of the house, pulls it into the middle of the roof, and WALLS OFF THE ENTRANCE so the deck can't be removed
nubbins`: the house next door had a rooftop deck, and the owner is a notorious asshole slumlord, so i called the city on him
nubbins`: so there's a bylaw in this city that you're not allowed to build a deck on your rooftop
punkman: there's a user named "#bitcoin-otc", I rated him to see what'd happen
mircea_popescu: cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinero-project-seeks-150000-for-bitcoin-gift-cards/ <<< a better play is to publish the chat than just excerpts, otherwise you're open to accusations of cherry picking/out of context/etc.
mircea_popescu: for the same reason all assholes are assholes : they seek approval of whatever group of idiots they mistook for cool and important.
bounce: IMO that guy likes to troll gun control proponents, but even so, why do payment processors feel the need to pass moral judgement on their clients?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Most internet users, he adds, would be comfortable with a better and more sustainable relationship between the [intelligence] agencies and the tech companies. <<< bwahahaha.
mircea_popescu: terrorise all the techs!
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quist | Quist. A street term for an organic fluid known as semen. The discharge of quist is called ejaculation. Bill Clinton: Hey bitch, open your mouth so I can quist in it.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the action works.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@c-98-251-108-249.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 8 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 2 I like how the man thinks.
gribble: You rated user Pierre_Rochard on Sun Jun 1 10:33:16 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: CPA.
Pierre_Rochard: Ok, will do! I’ll write up the spec and pass it around
mircea_popescu: have them do it for you, shave 10 months out of that year
Pierre_Rochard: the meat of it is there, the financial reporting will be fairly polished within a week, and the IRC integration I think I could get functional by the end of the year
Pierre_Rochard: their* accounting server
Pierre_Rochard: So that you send an encrypted/signed invoice to someone they’re accounting server imports it into their payables automatically, they approve it, payment goes out, everything is documented cryptographically
assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 and who else was looking to donate to the btcf, http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/
gribble: You rated user fivezerotwo on Sat Oct 18 10:55:21 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: kinda derpy kid with a kinda derpy botnet..
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell enky srsly, "we love bitcoin" "comments are closed" and "don't send donations in BTC that coinbase can't process" on the same page ? what is this!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl maybe ratelimit scoopbot ? 1/hr/domain or something ? also add update protection somehow ? otherwise the temptation to flood is too great.
bounce: guy got snippy, therefore scam
jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask
assbot: Common Crawl - The Data
punkman: mircea_popescu: i guess amazon is the way to go. << if you are on amazon you also get free access to http://commoncrawl.org/the-data/
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user delta9: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=delta9 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=delta9 | Rated since: Sat Nov 20 19:37:15 2010
punkman: mircea_popescu: mebbe it should only report moves in assbot's l2 ? << that's the idea
mircea_popescu: i guess amazon is the way to go.
RagnarDanneskjol: search git fr crawler/spider and you'll find a lot of them
mircea_popescu: nah it also updates on changes in the trust db
RagnarDanneskjol: i dont know why he chose delta9 other than reference to weed. there are 4 status updates that prompt the bot to speak: deed auth, deed bundle confirm, status/balance, and 'trust updates'
assbot: Tetrahydrocannabinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: Gene Wolfe, Orson Scott Card, and others. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: in other news, check out the cool shit buried in time! http://trilema.com/2012/gene-wolfe-orson-scott-card-and-others/
mircea_popescu: wasn't this supposed to be like all big deal discount "largest sale night of the year" etc ?
mircea_popescu: not only this undoubtedly flies in the face of reason, but actually, it's bitcoin-illegal to "do work"
mircea_popescu: "There undoubtedly needs to be work done to ensure that Bitcoin operates under a best practice regulatory regime."
mircea_popescu: dude these are too fucking cute