undata: I should've just gone to the valley to suck dick until I had enough to expatriate
BingoBoingo: Both areas filled in for me around 13 and I've been policing the land between evwer since
undata: anyhow re: beards there are plenty of those around PDX but far fewer men
undata: probably depends on the person
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Have you been watching the longs in the interim since MP stripped your voice? / WolfGoethe: nope, coding a new btc escrow market < goes straight to bash
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Then grow a better beard.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it's hard enough to recognize a man in the first place
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get each ant think the other ant is the queen << You can do this with some mamals
BingoBoingo: undata: +/- voting is broken period. /. is the least broken implementation which is far from encouraging
mircea_popescu: well yeah. i wish there was reddit spray for ants
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What did Chicago become then when Obama surrendered to Raoul???
undata: where the thing that causes most people to follow someone and obey has wrapped around itself
undata: @mircea_popescu | <undata> it's that imitative mind << imitathive << the reddit hive seems to have caused a malfunction in something very normal and human
mircea_popescu: somehow i have trouble distinguishing all the biafra faces of these "entrepreneur" folk
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He is, and I intend to shit in his mouth every step of the way if I can keep my dietary fiber intake up.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao buterin is still clogging the pipes ?
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Logged on 06-12-2014 02:50:54; decimation: apparently they kicked the guy off the project because of his refusal to commit a pronoun patch << well he wasn't being paid, so technically they uh.
ben_vulpes had not planned on a normalization excursion tonight, rather, wanted the otc db shooped into mother postgres
ben_vulpes: as does the ratingsystem.db file
ben_vulpes: dunno if anyone ever noticed this but the gpg.db file has a users table
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Not 5ls, 5Is
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Have you been watching the longs in the interim since MP stripped your voice?
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
mod6: more and more like airstrip one all the time
BingoBoingo: A veto block of other team owners opposes the rams moving because it would prevent them from blackmailing their city governments with the threat of a move to LA
BingoBoingo: So the StL rams majority owner proposed a new stadium complex in LA.
BingoBoingo: In reality they jsut contravene actual law for 10 minutes of voter attention.
BingoBoingo: Nominally they say anti-trust.
BingoBoingo: mod6: The same way congress overreaches by proposing ex-post facto laws contrary to the constitution like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-PATRIOT_Act
BingoBoingo: Eventually, probably on a reconcilliation ballot or some shit. I don't see a need for them to though. Their denial has only made his legend stronger.
BingoBoingo is kind of aggrevied Mussina didn't make the HOF this year in spite of inventing much of contemporary successful pitching.
BingoBoingo: Or if they'd think economically. Bo Jackson could have had another decade of professional playing time... If he didn't let the NFL cripple his body.
BingoBoingo: SOme serious cult mentality there.
BingoBoingo: For the average to exceptional player the NFL offers more moneyper year over less years, while MLB offers more total money over a longer period of time.
BingoBoingo: One economic problem I will never get is dual sports players in college declaring for the NFL draft and skipping the MLB draft (looking at you rapin Jaimis)
mod6: i was following the twins closer until a certain $100M player came down with "bi-lateral leg weakness"
BingoBoingo: Like every winning team the Cardinals preach family values when called for yet shank people in the alley when necessary.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2014 18:16:44; mircea_popescu: so which'd be the yadier-molina-est guy in that pic ?
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2014 18:16:44; mircea_popescu: so which'd be the yadier-molina-est guy in that pic ?
mod6: *bloop* irssi just told me that i've passed my #b-a byte allotment for the year.
mod6: yeah, lol. they're like $8 or something at Target field. its bananas. mind as well get a mixed drink.
BingoBoingo: When I go to the cards games most I eat there is a hot dog. Gotta make hose $6 beers work.
mod6: and they sell some killer brats. and old guys walk around and sell hot cups of "clamchowdah"
mod6: They let you re-enter at Fenway too.
BingoBoingo: They let you re-enter at Busch Stadium built with mostly private money...
mod6: the Twins built that Target field for $1bn bezzle bucks. and if you step outside to smoke the fascist asswads wont let you re-enter.
mod6: the Twins finally ditched Gardy.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2014 22:19:37; mircea_popescu: matheny needs to be out of a job.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Even mircea_popescu Hates matheney's coaching though http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-03-2014#543439
BingoBoingo: mod6: They were
BingoBoingo: !matheney
BingoBoingo: Blues have always hovered somewhere between making the playoffs and missing a championship.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Nominally. I like hockey in the way that I'd rather see a good game than follow a team.
mod6: but ya, the NFL is just brutal. its an abortion of what it used to be 25+ years ago
BingoBoingo: Hockey and Baseball are the pro sports I watch.
mod6: lol, did you see Chris Christie during the Cowboys/Lions game? DEEERRRP
BingoBoingo: mod6: NFL, totally unwatchable. College game. This bowl season a coach broke his nose. Running back shat his pants... and these were the more normal anomalies.
mod6: modern american football is a joke compared to what it used to be, its basically unwatchable these days.
BingoBoingo actuall prefers American football for the ways it stays truer to the spirit of indigenous sports.
asciilifeform would prefer to see the aztec 'basketball'
BingoBoingo: The major advantage in playing the game comes from a player being as close to the hoop's height as possible.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So You take a bunch of people, 5 on the field of paly at a time. Goal is putting a bouncy ball through a hoop of fixed height.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i must confess that i do not know how, and with what, the game of 'almost golf' is played; or how it relates to what is happening in the photo.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently something unfortunate happened to your neighbors during their game of "almost golf" https://twitter.com/IllinoisLoyalty/status/553040601542053889/photo/1
undata: groundhog day at the vomitorium?
undata: already handled in logs, but ye gods the bile it summons
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2014 02:50:54; decimation: apparently they kicked the guy off the project because of his refusal to commit a pronoun patch
undata: JS is widespread, therefore good. Operating Systems are hard and people who make them are well known. I should sculpt my one shitty skill into hardthing and be well known.
mircea_popescu: "Britain First represents everything we disagree with and they represent the worst of all worlds, by putting on a patriotic face while promulgating division."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: slightly different gambit there
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: There are tales of WP working with Postgre and others in off the shelf configuration, much as there are sightings of a loch ness monster with feathers.
artifexd: The simple solution would be to alter the table to change the column type from TEXT to LONGTEXT. That will give you 2**32 characters of space
ben_vulpes: lord wordpress needs a rewriting to work with other databaxen?
mircea_popescu: all this stemmed from hanbot's comment on the gossipd article which was supposed to be like 120kb.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> sooo... apparently "text" mysql blobs are limited to 65535 characters ? << perhaps someday consider the use of the alien technology "postgresql"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of which, whatever happed to the marvelous british invention of the 'pig burial' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and there are many gaps at least that long
nubbins`: PeterL he ran a bunch of passthroughs and other sucker games on the various scamsites before retiring
nubbins`: PeterL tat was the neobee guy.
asciilifeform: gave up << it seems to still be there ?
artifexd: My woman keeps the place in excellent order.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got that part. but the relation ?
mircea_popescu wonders how the artifexd residence looks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as described in my article by the same name
BingoBoingo: A current trust slut doesn't have the gossipd burden of getting its owner's actual orfices pounded.
mircea_popescu: well... there's going to be skankier nodes
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "pay me 1 btc, if youdon't say anything stupid for a whole month you get it back" << The way I understand gossipd... fair collateral seems closer to 15-20 BTC
mircea_popescu: im sure there's going to be skankier nodes
BingoBoingo: The burden of impressing to get a connect to a gossipd node for the casual I imagine will be much higher than getting a !up nao.
BingoBoingo: Well, it's the sort of diversion gossipd will render largely irrelevant.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Obama has sold a large part of America's electorate on Cuban style socialism and he want's to let them know he's stronger than the R-socialist party to making friends with cuba
WolfGoethe: lol.. ok brah.. yeah.. thats the ticket
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: No. It was to appeal to the democratic base lest 'Murica's other socialist party do it in 2017.
WolfGoethe: their goal is to cut off venezula and the bolivarian revolution and then encircle brazil
WolfGoethe: the usa mvoed in because cuba and russia were getting to close. putin foragev 32 billion bucks of cuba debt.. and wanted a prescense on the island
BingoBoingo: Why would USSA. USSA first strike would require just about all of the H-bombs that still work.
WolfGoethe: the usa wants to hit russia and china first with a nuke attack before they get their mutual defense up
WolfGoethe: cuba sold putin out, the idiots... they will get a color revolution soon. the moment fidel dies
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Why would they fire though before USMS "auctions" the last silk road parcel.
WolfGoethe: Putin doesn;t wanna go there tho. he is sitting back
WolfGoethe: i really think bitcoin could spike to a million bucks if Putin worked with China to answer the us economic attack. putin could just say he refuses to pay back their loans because of the sanctions and he could ask china to call in their us debt... the fed could just print cash to buy it up... but if china sold that debt to foreign governments... the fed could NOT print foreign currency.. so... overnight the dollar would collapse... not a shot
mircea_popescu: the meta dougornay ?!
WolfGoethe: i do not want to get into the spiritual stuff, as that is way to deep for most folks
mircea_popescu: i think the reptilians are just a ruse.
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Nah, it is just old.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The reptilians. The DDoS people ruined the lizard word like all marketers do.
WolfGoethe: the house of Saud is a completely controlled puppet government yes
mircea_popescu: WolfGoethe no because captain planet would intervene.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the lizard tribe doh.
WolfGoethe: also if Russia answered their attack with chinese help we could very easily have $1,000,000 bitcoin in a month
PeterL: who is "them"?
BingoBoingo: Why work with all of Opec when you can just deal with the House of Saud's gerontocracy and that rogue state of North Dakota?
WolfGoethe: not too far out of scope to see them messing with bitcoin just to keep the lid on how worthless the dollar is
mircea_popescu: i always thought WolfGoethe = vexual
WolfGoethe: clearly they are attacking gold and silver desperate to keep the dollar high, they attacked the russian economy by working with opec to lower oil prices
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
BingoBoingo: I dun imagine too many people of the kind in a position to support a leader. Still hurts when Ver blows his credibility on Gox's final days giving the scammer crowd room to pretend ther are Bitcoin 'Murica old hands.
BingoBoingo: Basically the story of everyone finding about Roger Ver's firecrackers and Uncle Shrem's bong.
BingoBoingo: And yet... the noise does not abate, but grows, and as it grows there's silence growing in the great hall too, under the marble arches, over the limpid pools. The emperor bids his guests eat, but they swallow knots, he bids them merry, but the one courtly concubine that starts to talk, trying to tell a joke, runs hoarse. And then, a centurion busts in, a different sort of man. Rugged, bearded, covered in soot and dried blood, he
mircea_popescu: if you've seen american century x, there's that moment when norton's character finds out the old dude was really in prison for fraud.
pete_dushenski: i only saw the play. and while it was a splendid rendition, it was also some time ago. but i gets it nao!
mircea_popescu: palatial moment. when the derps in -dev discover that well... gavin isn't really into bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: you know when the "guard of the revolution" discovers that their supreme leader isn't really into the revolution at all ? that thing.
BingoBoingo: That one's just my default thought when MP says palace or palatial, because we all know MP prefers a bunch of apartments spread around town to a single palace. Decentralize all of the residence!!!
mircea_popescu: but i was thinking more of the moment when the color revolutionaries discxover their leader is really a sort of adonis.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Emperor Eunuch and the Barbarians
assbot: The idea for a great film... pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHa9DA )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know when the retarded horse discovers that the pigs are actually having fun in the pig room ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, gavin hasn't been on #bitcoin-dev in the past two weeks, and was mentioned maybe a coupla times in the interval.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though what is this forced prevention of address reuse bullshit. Spz I recieve at address, spend from and input there, happen to recieve there again... Anything that prevents spending the later balances recieved is an attack.
pete_dushenski: maybe we should also make mining free, and use the scrypt fairness algorithm
mircea_popescu: blockbitsCan't wait until we have 20MB blocks. I've developed a easy to use web front-end for people to upload files to the blockchain, using scriptsigs to store data. they can retrieve files by simply pasting any TX. I've put aside a few hundreds thousand dollars to pay mining pools to mine my non-standard tx's for free. I was hoping we can increase the block size to 200MB... please make it as big as possible, my dat
mircea_popescu: dgenr8how about using the world's biggest bloom filter to prevent address reuse? it wouldn't add much to storage requirements
mircea_popescu: lmao -dev is almost as retarded as the forum by now.
mircea_popescu: this discussion is reminding mircea_popescu to go check on the "oh, we are economists, looking before we leap, there's a small minority disagreeing" crowd
asciilifeform: ('graph' of the microshit office, 'comparison of efficiencies', vs graph theoretic kind)
asciilifeform: great heuristic for what not to bother flipping through, but very frustrating re: how much space these take up on the shelves.
mircea_popescu: it's like porn minus the lube, seriously.
asciilifeform: i make regular trips to my university maths/physical sciences library. there is a substantial comp-sci/discretes section there. i pull out, seriously, a book, one in three, random page - a graph. for almost precisely this, the comparison between the warm and the soft.
asciilifeform: at least the computing turdmeisters don't (yet) prove systemd superiority by photograph << actually.
pete_dushenski: they're far better served "reading" mattise than body scans
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'brain activation' folks are simply a somewhat more 'photogenic' version of the rest of usg academia, where virtually every physical science 'result', almost without exception, concerns some spurious correlation of this and that
pete_dushenski: lol "the picture tells us..."
mircea_popescu: at least the computing turdmeisters don't (yet) prove systemd superiority by photographic cpus with tomograph units
mircea_popescu: i really like these "academics" whose contribution to the world consists on "this model is supported by the fact that brain area activation"
pete_dushenski: and also modification of the physical environment
pete_dushenski: but the solutions involve, yes, strong leadership
pete_dushenski: sure, the point being that there are an infinite number of ways they cannot work, and a few that they can
mircea_popescu: also, they can not work without well organised oppression.
pete_dushenski: "Professor of Psychology and Director of the Moral Cognition Lab at Harvard University"
pete_dushenski: they can work, but not by default
pete_dushenski: hey, prejudice exists specifically because you're "reunited". << heh. i made a similar point in the soviet-harvard article
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood. do appeals to "ignore" the crying child rather than smack him over the head make crying children less common or more common ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the russian guy's wrong in pretty much all the particulars. they ran into tons of police. http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/07/attaque-contre-charlie-hebdo-ce-que-l-on-sait_1175371
assbot: It’s called the Soviet-HARVARD illusion for a reason and that reason is Joshua Greene. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1xH5UI9 )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/08/its-called-the-soviet-harvard-illusion-for-a-reason-and-that-reason-is-joshua-greene/
decimation: well, there's also the thought of puttint it all on tcp port 80 and putting fake http headers
asciilifeform: that's what the 'phreak' version (bridge of two telephone lines) was.
mircea_popescu: try the experiment, send handskakes to random hosts on port 1337
decimation: mircea_popescu: receiving on one ip and rxing' on another is what I'm calling a 'port'
asciilifeform: but the receiver being indistinguishable from an empty wall plug - no.
mircea_popescu: receiving on one ip and sending on another ? sure, why niot.
mircea_popescu: decimation what difference does the port make.
asciilifeform: the receiver is, to anyone lacking a peerage key, just a black hole.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you use udp, like i proposed, you can even have the mindfuck of a 'bar-bell shaped' cell - a 'multihomed' machine receives on one ip and transmits on another
asciilifeform: decimation: of some cells. no info on who they belong to (what keys), who the peers are, etc
decimation: it's true that if the network can be scaled this is less of a concern
mircea_popescu: only of the closest
asciilifeform: decimation: or did you simply mean the proverbial future of the gasenwagen, where the mere act of transmitting cryptostrange is a gassing offense
mircea_popescu: decimation the graph is very flat, with 100s of connections. you will have to squeeze a large fraction to disrupt anything.
decimation: so it seems to me that this 'cell' topology is vulnerable in the sense that it is obvious who is relaying packets
mircea_popescu: Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Sunni Islam's leading centre of learning, called the attack "criminal" and said "Islam denounces any violence".
mircea_popescu: ovbiously, the result of this is not concentration camps for all muslims indiscriminately, because... well...
mircea_popescu: so it is sunni then
cazalla: damn, the shooters in France don't fucking hesitate, down under it took almost 24 hours for the shooter to fire off a round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSMJb0fcWt4
mircea_popescu: heck, they're better funded than wasps.
mircea_popescu: they'reall well funded.
mircea_popescu: anyway, which kind of evil sand niggers were these ? the irani like or the saudi like ?
asciilifeform: they do need occasional testing.
asciilifeform: only if mircea_popescu wants to test the turrets.
asciilifeform: but this is a subject covered in painstaking detail in many other places.
asciilifeform: in many cases these folks are literally 'employed' to create chaos - as in, they get a pension, in return for... doing just that
asciilifeform: their purpose is to terrorize the native population, for a variety of useful purposes (bolster seekoority state; keep real estate prices in less-afflicted zones high; etc)
asciilifeform: very simple formula: the 'barbarians' are in fact employees of the swedish (french, british, american - each case) government, aka usg, in good standing.
BingoBoingo: In that case embassy lives in the shadows
asciilifeform: ^ alternate hypothesis
BingoBoingo: Question is will they ever care to.
asciilifeform: when does the actual gov of se (northern caliphate) send replacement embassy to washington.
assbot: Muslim Gangs Terrorize 55 Neighborhoods, Police Powerless | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJLo90 )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "hashname" << have ye unleashed the valkyrie on reddit?
ben_vulpes intends to run an open relay node - openly disclosed as such for those in the mood to twiddle knobs
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes granted. i just mean... so they do,more power to em.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought it's implicit in the spec, in the "receiver decides if to relay" : you can configure a client to pass, to user or other clients, whatever you wish
mircea_popescu: just as long as i can isolate the redditd from my machine, the people who want to be in there are more then welcome to their own choices.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's no value in imposing values for poeople.
asciilifeform: for the radio aficionados among us, let's call it 'squelch'
ben_vulpes: doubtful, see the ever prolix reddit.
asciilifeform: if one carries on with such, may find himself on a rather smaller and lonelier gossipnet
asciilifeform: (i forget if this was mircea_popescu's terminology in the original article, or not)
asciilifeform: which then propagates to your peers
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: rather more like bitcoin - in that you introduce messages into the net by loading them into your own cell
ben_vulpes: i imagine a steady-state future where people operate gossipd cells in much the same way that ircd's are operated on fleanode.
ben_vulpes: forgive the extremely poorly articulated comment.
ben_vulpes: how does someone relay a message to a cell and from a cell to another cell?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how do you propose to use the hypothetical gizmo without running a cell ?
mircea_popescu: join the club.
ben_vulpes: confession time, i know nothing about the arcana of irc modes
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes you can speak cause you have ops not cause authed with gribble and assbot.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] hitler does know considerably more under the all-signed scenario than alternative. << your sought "morale hit"
mircea_popescu: it was not preserved in writing because the mps of the time did not see itworthy of their wot.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Only really differs in that some outside idiots consider things that emerge from there as worthy of consideration as virtue, instead of vice as in the case of English gin. <<< there;'s tons of "gin as virtue" songs and oral liuterature.
asciilifeform: just not necessarily the one you might like
asciilifeform: and the basic notion of working folks to death in a mine - is ancient.