punkman: their demos are stupid though
punkman: I wanna try the spaceglasses though
punkman: the glass tech wasn't that good imo
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punkman: I wouldn't mind more AR/history/exhibition things like http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/when-science-fiction-becomes-reality-rebuilding-the-berlin-wall-with-augmented-reality-a-704970.html
Vexual: but as non retarded uses go, playing ar doom in the office sounds pretty good
Vexual: meanwhile google is full aware the patent selss to city planners until its nearly up, then it goes into happy meals
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punkman: can these people think of a single non-retarded use case?
Vexual: hey, you can spend a bin laden on the train
Vexual: 1700 private jets, fucking hell, the hipocracy
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punkman: (more here http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/12/375663920/the-doctor-who-championed-hand-washing-and-saved-women-s-lives )
punkman: "For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis made it look like they were the ones giving childbed fever to the women. And Semmelweis was not very tactful. He publicly berated people who disagreed with him and made some influential enemies. Eventually the doctors gave up the chlorine hand-washing, and Semmelweis — he lost his job. Semmelweis kept trying to convince doctors in other parts of Europe to wash with chlorine,
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mircea_popescu: wholla lotta dumb in his funny looking head otherwise.
ben_vulpes: got a writeup somewhere? i don't understand the implications straight off.
mircea_popescu: except for no particular reason the check was against a signed value (the very careful part), which inadvertently reduced a scarce resource
ben_vulpes: lol so then fork?
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the man who gets drenched in volcanic eruptions every single week, worrying about meteors falling.
mircea_popescu: and yet the "uncertaininty" is generated by imaginary problems. not by this.
mircea_popescu: usually not that big. sometimes fucking ridiculous (like the one time when they changed versioning)
mircea_popescu: "The current solution as proposed by Bitcoin Core is, when you get right down to it, lets just be really careful with code changes and hope for the best. There is no real disaster recovery or prevention plan. Yes, there is ongoing work to split the consensus critical bits out into a library and I think this is a good idea and am glad to see it happening. However, it still does nothing to address the real fun
mircea_popescu: difficult and borders on impossible. The issue is implementation independent."
mircea_popescu: "There is currently no way to guarantee that any two versions of Bitcoin software, whether they are two different versions of Bitcoin Core, two different versions of alternative implementations, a version of Bitcoin Core versus a version of an alternative implementation, or even two copies of the same version of Bitcoin Core built with different compiler versions are in exact consensus agreement. Doing so is incredibly
ben_vulpes: <Luke-Jr> [] not sure why this patch is reducing set_lg_max.. << lol i love the stream of consciousness as Luke-Jr reads through source
ben_vulpes: i'm just sitting here imagining the ways gavincoin could play out
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 22:31:37; mircea_popescu: "Gavincoin orphan chain to reach 50 blocks before being abandoned" is kinda not the same as "Blockchain will increase"
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ? << it is going to be *fascinating* to see how coinbase et. al are going to handle this
mircea_popescu: there's no discernible benefit to it or anything.
ben_vulpes: the bombing?
ben_vulpes: it being the jewish center?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> davout here's the story : big bombing here in the 70s, at the jewish center. dozens of victims. << was this a proxy attack on israel?
mircea_popescu: how's the "talking sense at redditards" business going ?
Pierre_Rochard: The point I was trying to make is that Gavinonomics has no notion of demand elasticity for bitcoin transactions
mircea_popescu: o there he is.
Pierre_Rochard: “errything fine up there ?” <- debatable, I’ve been studying tax accounting, which can be deleterious to the mind
asciilifeform: now, whether even one of these (or ones not mentioned here) is fit for use in anger, on the battlefield - i cannot say.
asciilifeform: there is even, apparently, a haskell version.
mircea_popescu: that died a year prior to the cx
asciilifeform: haven't tried it either.
asciilifeform: there is also something that looked, on cursory inspection, quite like a bitcoind, in python
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, re go : you know the only other bitcoin implementation is btcd, written in go ?
asciilifeform: lottery hitler probably has not the brain mass to doctor his archive, but why leave it to fate.
asciilifeform: incidentally, it would be very spiffy if someone here (specifically) has a vintage copy of either of these on his disk, from those days, and would be willing to sign it.
asciilifeform: 0.1.3 seems to be the earliest mass-circulated version.
mircea_popescu: you know, that's the guy that came up with a glbse asset that consisted of buying lottery tickets ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think the 0.1 source was ever actually released
asciilifeform: not incl. the 0.1 source, unfortunately
mircea_popescu: but he's willing to buy people drinks in san juan, who knows, maybe then.
asciilifeform is not a rich fellow, and was much poorer still when he read the satoshi paper
mircea_popescu: " phantomcircuitDiablo-D3, the real danger here is convincing people who dont truly understand the problem that something is safe which is in fact extremely risky"
asciilifeform: but others, with enormous incomes (denominated in, e.g., usd) - hate.
asciilifeform: i would dare to suggest that plenty of folks who haven't anything to save, for instance, like the proper bitcoin quite a bit
asciilifeform: this seems more like a question of who folks imagine themselves as, rather than what they are
mod6: yeah, they're spenders, not savers.
undata is merely wondering why anyone would think "supah fast transactions" and not "immutable unit of value for all time" is the thing
mircea_popescu: quite. no they, and nothing's being particularly wanted.
asciilifeform: 'they' 'want'
mircea_popescu: the same sort of rabid idiocy seems to be wafting from both of them. half curious if the same "pr" company hired for both.
mircea_popescu: "hey listen, we have a perfect system that works in proved practice to reward miners. let's replace it with some libertard idiocy that a) provedly never worked in practice and b) for well understood theoretical reasons that we don't like so they don't really exist"
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mircea_popescu: this idiocy with "Assurance contracts" takes the cake.
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mircea_popescu: the onus to show that they DEFINITELY WILL NOT BE is on you lot of "bitcoin experts"
mircea_popescu: i suppose bitpay "embassy" is still deserted because whatever, people were insecure about what may happen if the bitpie in the sky is smaller than perceived.
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mircea_popescu: dude "lost enthusiasm". for what ? for "recruiting merchants". meanwhile... http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/
mircea_popescu: "Do you have any anecdotal examples of crypto users on the side lines saying things like,
mircea_popescu: everyone i know that's not dumb is busy doing shit. the people "discussing" on reddit are an entirely different brand. if tomorrow they were replaced with a frog infested pond, what'd happen ?
decimation: yeah that's a good point, the heirarchy is too busy running actual business - it doesn't have time to prance around and promise the moon to the sans-culottes
mircea_popescu: similarly one could observe that the soviet union had very impressive victory day parades. sure. this, principally, because the soviet citizen had little better to do, either productively, for leisure or for his own safety.
mircea_popescu: of course, the right doesn't generally create unruly mobs of idiots that spout nonsense. this, principally, because the right is not comfortable for idiots.
mircea_popescu: decimation i don't really see it the same way. when nanotube was disappeared earlier this month, gribble got replaced within something like a week. seems to me the organisation's fine.
decimation: well, one lesson is that Danton had an organization. it is odd that the supposed right-wing supporters of heirarchy are usually out-flanked by their enemies on their left when it comes to organizing the little people
mircea_popescu: reddit mob is not worth the pixels it's printed on.
decimation: the Legislative Assembly was more than happy to recognize Georges Danton as their leader after he marched in front of the 20,000 strong mob
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/ << this makes exquisite companion reading.
mircea_popescu: decimation the craftyness of it, tho. who is presented as the golden standard ? microsoft. because why ?
mircea_popescu: what sort of rotten oats would an ass have to eat to imagine that something that couldn't be done later should be done now. it's the screaming declaration of "we don't represent anyone but wish to rule everyone"
decimation: lol yeah joe sixpack is not using bitcoin because of the block size limit
mircea_popescu: because a) we deeply care about the "i predicts" of propaganda agents ; b) "hurry up guise, if we don't do it while nobody's looking we won't be able to do it at all"
mircea_popescu: With the limit in place, Bitcoin runs the risk of stagnating. When the limit is lifted, I predict we will see mass adoption."
mircea_popescu: The 1 MB block size limit needs to removed as soon as possible, and replaced with something that scales automatically, rather than through risky hard forks that require political consensus. It's 2015, Microsoft, one of the largest companies in the world, accepts Bitcoin, and the Bitcoin network can only handle 3 transactions per second, unless there is a hard fork. Getting rid of the 1 MB block size limit is long overd
mircea_popescu: could lead to Bitcoin community splitting into two networks, or a hard fork could end up not happening due to community infighting. Both of these would be disastrous for the Bitcoin economy.
mircea_popescu: reddit : "You're only looking at the technical side of it. Leaving the 1 MB block size issue for later is risky due to political/social reasons. Every hard fork brings with it uncertainty and risks because it requires wide consensus to be carried out smoothly. As long as these risks hang over the Bitcoin economy, many companies will be hesitant to make long-term commitments to the Bitcoin economy. Afterall, a hard fork
decimation: re: woodcollector scam << the one I see in random us fishwrappers is 'fuel saving magnets' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_saving_device#Magnets
mircea_popescu: "tldr: economically speaking, core dev team should not worry about increasing the block size limit until at the very least we see average transaction fees consistently above the 0.0001 btc 'minimum'. At that point we can revisit this debate. There are other questions about feasibility and politics that I'll leave out."
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pierre_rochard errything fine up there ?
mircea_popescu: this is like ether all over again. "oh we have tons of support!!1" "how come nobody is trading ?" "it';s mystical support. woodcollector knows all about it. we'll send you a private video." etc.
mircea_popescu: "Likewise, in the worst case if Bitcoin did overshoot to become centralized alt-coins and the market would again solve the problem."
mircea_popescu: !up Father_MAXI
mircea_popescu: then for everyone using it.
mircea_popescu: decimation for sure, making it plain that bitcoin isn't a sort of http / pki / dns / ietf / whatever captive protocol in the courtyard of some us dependent or another is quite valuable. first and foremost for bitcoin.
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 18:53:07; mircea_popescu: it's one thing to trust this rnd function because asciilifeform and 25 others signed on reading it.
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2014 11:54:21; mircea_popescu: other than proper cryptography for all foss, as discussed coupla days re gentoo overlays etc, i would fucking love for all lines of code to come with a counter.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr: although I suppose that doesn't help if you want multiple people to sign them << the idea isn't to sign commits, but to sign reads. << see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2014#824250 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2014#888473 it's an older point this, about software accountability.
decimation: like the ietf & http
decimation: it seems to me that the enemies of bitcoin would love to think that they could 'update' the protocol as they desire
mircea_popescu: his rethoric was different a coupla months ago, and as far as anyone can tell hasn't actually caught up with your representation thereof.
Luke-Jr: by himself? then it's a simple "no" I hope
mircea_popescu: there's many intertwined issues there. the outermost layer is, to establish whether an english speaking cia visitor is even in a position to push through a hardfork.
Luke-Jr: sure - how does that cross over into the block size matter?
mircea_popescu: you don't get a private island just because you want one. things have to do with each other, it's the way of the world.
Luke-Jr: I can't imagine how the block size is at all related to governments, or why a government would aim to change it.
Luke-Jr: look, I respect your right to be free of US interference since you're outside the US, but governmental politics has basically nothing to do with hardforks
mircea_popescu: it's so far 100% of the bitcoin "told the usg to get fucked" party. once you digest that you might be in a better position to evaluate who matters and who doesn't,
mircea_popescu: but if headcount feels the need to learn this through headcollisions with hard objects, it may.
mircea_popescu: enough to make me 600 btc in the month bitpay made a loss.
mircea_popescu: coinbase made the round, which i guess gains it a little space. NOT that much.
Luke-Jr: "skin the fork"?
mircea_popescu: the one large merchant left in bitcoin so far is mpex.
Luke-Jr: especially if Gavin has the big merchants and exchanges onboard - if they follow his lead on this, everyone who wants to buy stuff with Bitcoin is likely to follow along too, for better or worse
mircea_popescu: people here don't "have concerns". people here are going to skin the fork as proposed so far, no argument there. gavin can start reading or press ahead, either way.
Luke-Jr: anyhow, I don't think Gavin knows people here have concerns. I'd suggest doing a writeup of what those concerns are, and what Gavin needs to do if he wants your approval for a hardfork. I know you shouldn't *have to*, but otherwise I don't see any way this is likely to come to a resolution.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: If Gavin wanted to force the hardfork, he wouldn't be frustrated at his inability to convince people ;)
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I'm definitely in favour of taking a conservative approach, and I'm pretty sure most of the Bitcoin Core team is as well. I think Gavin was probably frustrated earlier when it came up in #bitcoin-dev because nobody could give him a straightforward "way to convince everyone"
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr anyway, inasmuch as everyone actually wants bitcoin to prevail, divergence of opinion isn't much of a problem. however, the conservative rather than the progressive approach must be observed. change doesn't happen just for the sake of changing things. this isn't a fad or an ipad gizmo. if consensus can't be reached for whatever reason, whoever doesn't like it leaves and starts over, rather than pretending the o
Luke-Jr: decimation: also, Gavin is no longer the final word for any git repo
Luke-Jr: decimation: it's not "some random github repo", it's the code that most nodes *will* be running unless someone objects
mircea_popescu: Blazedout419 hey, my question to you is, did you actually pay 14k for that guy's wooden thing, as represented ? or was it more like a sweetheart sort of deal for advertising sake, like the sillycon valley does ?
Luke-Jr: (ugh, I'm being unclear: I mean the onus is on him to convince you, and you shouldn't have to convince him)
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: I agree Gavin should persuade you - but he will probably ignore you if you're not there discussing it
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: you're still thinking in terms of persuasion. we don't need to persuade the usg stooge of anything.
Luke-Jr: might help if the devs here participated in the discussions in #bitcoin-dev when it came up.. maybe
Luke-Jr: anyhow, if the goal is oldest version, I'd recommend going off 0.4.x; either way, I'd recommend fixing the bdb hardfork
Luke-Jr: although I suppose that doesn't help if you want multiple people to sign them
nubbins`: and so disappearing is not precisely the concern :D
nubbins`: did YOU save the MD5 sums? 8)
nubbins`: start with chicken.tar.gz and go from there
Luke-Jr: https://gitorious.org/bitcoin/bitcoind-stable/commit/4a89522c22e07a640463292b212ecdf31037a8c4 is the 0.4.x commit for the hardfork
Luke-Jr: ie, those limits are for the wallet
Luke-Jr: decimation: Bitcoin Core does not use bdb for the blockchain
Luke-Jr: including through the 0.8.1 hardfork
nubbins`: it was decided that 0.5.3 was the earliest that'd still work.
Luke-Jr: the 0.5.x backport just changed set_lk_max_locks to 537000
Luke-Jr: I think the db_config patch may explain why it works, but could be potentially inadequate for the current consensus rules
undata: that one diddles the knobs on bdb
Luke-Jr: the bdb lock limitation was removed
Luke-Jr: ok, so how are you getting it to work without the hardfork?
mod6: dude, that was published on the 1st of january.
Luke-Jr: it can't, if you don't have the 0.8.1 hardfork patched in..
mod6: there is not anything post v0.5.3 patched in at this point.
Luke-Jr: decimation: why do I care about the author?
Luke-Jr: which patch contains the post-0.5.3 hardforks?
Luke-Jr: I don't want patches, I want the complete code.
mod6: If you don't want to bother digging through the mailing list for patches, you can just dl the tarballs under "Submitted Patches" on thebitcoin.foundation site
mod6: what's the link?
mircea_popescu: jurov << ppl be complaining they can't see teh code ?
undata: danielpbarron: damned quick on the twitter draw
mircea_popescu: including the actual bitcoin foundation is the correct move there. mod6 ben_vulpes are in charge.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: did you read the discussion earlier in #bitcoin-dev ? nobody is going to just go along with this as it is right now.
mircea_popescu: yeah, you did. you were promised one thing, got another thing, they told you "it's just as good, pretend like you got the original". and you did. becauser you believed them, that delivery's imminent and errything.
Luke-Jr: when he proposes it, then people can argue for/against it, and either it will gain consensus or it won't
mircea_popescu: i will just remind you that you actually believed the bfl scammers, and stained your own beard lieing about THAT delivery.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: there isn't anything yet, he hasn't even proposed one
Luke-Jr: a real hardfork is one where the community is in agreement on it
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mircea_popescu: perhaps as valuable as an ethereum node, that.
mircea_popescu: as far as hardforking goes." << the downside of a hardfork is that every user that buys into the gavin scam will be left without a bitcoin node.
mircea_popescu: "Downsides of a hardfork are simply that all nodes who do not go along with the upgrade are left without a functioning Bitcoin node, and susceptible to fraud (double spending, etc). This means a mandatory update of every node in the wild, which could require hardware upgrades as well. Miners are not in any special position to decide a hardfork, and are at the mercy of the bitcoin users (mainly merchants and exchanges)
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undata: warning to neti-pot users: same thing can happen... boil the water
decimation: sometimes the lake swims in you
mircea_popescu: One night, Charles Manners (Lord Lieutenant of Ireland) appeared in the regal box at the theatre on the same night that Peg was attending the show with her girls. Some wags in the gallery began shouting at her Oy Peg! Who slept with you last night, Peg? Peg gave them an imperious look, threw a dramatic glance at the Lord Lieutenant and in a scolding tone, said: Manners, you dogs!
mircea_popescu: "Question: Why would I go to the fucking dumpy ass trailer park called Lake Havasu when I am currently living in Carefree and 10 minutes from Scottsdale?" lol i was waiting for this.
mircea_popescu: AS IF THEY WERENT GENTLEMEN
mircea_popescu: right about at the time they tarred and feathered that asinine idiot who said they should wash hands
asciilifeform: that other kind - that was (and some would say still is!) - medicine.
mircea_popescu: genders don't preserve through the eons, they bleed. the french soldier of 1800 wasn't a soldier in 1750. he was a peasant.
mircea_popescu: old men pretending to be teaching the young'uns "trigonometry" who thought pi = 3.
asciilifeform: neh, he'd travel from town to town and proclaim that he'll fell tree with the power of farts
mircea_popescu: fifty or five hundred years ago, that wasn't a crowd. it was sole individuals, and the idiots were still a crowd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean it deeper than that. i mean, actual quacks passing for professionals. see, since the internet there's a line being drawn : sure both gavin and wood dude pass to a certain crowd as idiots for the genuine article. but there exists a thinking crowd that sees through it.
asciilifeform: 'improve your memory, guaranteed, with scientology therapy.' ('popular mechanics,' 1958. classified ad.)
asciilifeform: i'm rather fond of old magazines. (mid 20th c. to late '70s, in particular.) the american ones are hilariously rich in sc4mz0r1ng
mircea_popescu: the funny thing (to me) here is, gotany idea how much of this shit floated before there was an internet ?
mircea_popescu: "I can and will still prove to you that Nubbins is full of shit and on a smear campaign, i am now just choosing to do so directly with the people who matter, not every tom dick and harry that thinks they know a darn thing about woodworking"
asciilifeform: speaking of diamonds (specifically of the synthetic variety), one possible observation here - not concerning the idiocy of the wood thing as such - is that anyone demanding a specific 'colour' (as per the 'monolith' essay) - i.e. provenance - of object, is begging to be chumped
mircea_popescu: it's like a diamond, depends which way the light falls.
asciilifeform: for sheer idiocy of the expected chump
mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue.
mircea_popescu: a) do not make too tiny cuts that wouldn't have survived mechanically b) clean the fucking piece.
mats: sand the damn thing?
mats: is concealing the laser job hard?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` at this point, expecting a "well of course SOME PARTS were done with a laser but that's not what we were talking about" pivot for the entire "you're a bad person for hurting my feelings and i'm putting together a lynch party" talk
mircea_popescu: He did the BTC from memory << ok that's pretty good lol
nubbins`: "You can clearly see the line by line marks left on this piece that are definitely, without a doubt, with 100% certainty left by a laser engraver exactly the same as a printer does:"
nubbins`: "I happen to be a woodworker of 40+ years myself (yes, I really am that old) and I contacted WoodCollecter just a couple days ago to see if he was interested in buying some Ironwood, although I never looked at his work. Now i see this and my mind is completely boggled. I did not read every post here, but I can affirm the opinion of a few I saw that have said that the intricate carving in question is done with a laser. I am 100% sure about
mircea_popescu: you know, the fucking exchanges send like an email on everything now?
mircea_popescu: "Every step of the way he kept me updated. "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "ukrainian government" still exists right ?
mircea_popescu: this is fine, the us wants to be humiliated on this front too, let it be humiliated on this front too.
asciilifeform: the academic question of whether the abortus will die merciful death or live on as circus freak ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, im sure gavin "talked" to everyone handled by the same office.
asciilifeform: any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ?
mircea_popescu: "Edit: On IRC, Gavin explained he already talked to most (all?) big merchant processors and exchanges, and they were all onboard." derp.
mircea_popescu: da finally came out and said, here's how the president is linked to the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: they created a "joint comission" with iran. it didn't get anywhere.
mircea_popescu: davout here's the story : big bombing here in the 70s, at the jewish center. dozens of victims.
kakobrekla: >the best guess from our devs is that the bid was filtered out because the highest bid was > lowest ask.
nubbins`: apathy is the new concern
davout: mircea_popescu: "but for the sake of argument, explain to me how exactly is this any less than some derpy cartoonists being shot by some random idiots ?" <<< easier for the media to blame teh arabs than to blame their president i'd say
mircea_popescu: and may this process outlast the century.
mircea_popescu: so... love food riots. if president + government get raped and impaled, all the better.
mircea_popescu: i am personally in favour of so much individual terrorism until it is inconceivable for the slightest hint of the state doing it,
ben_vulpes: spectre of the old regime?
mircea_popescu: turns out, when a government is the terrorist, all is ok. but if individuals are the terrorists, oh noes, gotta make the press talk of nothing else for a month.
mircea_popescu: i would expect a degree of magnitude more pressure as a result of this rather than that.