davout: that's the plan yes
Naphex: davout: grats on the intergration.
BingoBoingo admits he is drunk and full of hatorade right now, but can not understand why GAW is focusing its hate and traffic on 2coinfire.cf which merely threatens them instead of qntra.net which ended them.
BingoBoingo would rather see USian Mosin and SKS, but...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mega lol http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/01/21/russian_kalashnikov_ak_47_rifles_to_be_made_in_u_s.html
BingoBoingo: Also why the fuck is the total weight of Homero's conference bodyguards less than that I usually have on any given Friday?
assbot: So /CoinFireBlog are writing and encouraging spurious BS about GAW. Sue them /gawceo just destroy these halfwit clowns.
assbot: So /CoinFireBlog are writing and encouraging spurious BS about GAW. Sue them /gawceo just destroy these halfwit clowns.
assbot: Bill Gates just said on Jimmy Fallon the future in Africa is about access to banking with cell phones and digital currency!! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSpQYy )
fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t9day/bill_gates_just_said_on_jimmy_fallon_the_future/
fluffypony: reddit circlejerks over the weirdest stuff
BingoBoingo: What kind of midget broccoli do you get there?
punkman: I usually wash it, cut it down to smaller pieces, immerse in water+vinegar+salt and leave it in the fridge
punkman: fractal broccoli makes the prettiest salad https://thefourhourchef.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/istock_000011134261_romanesco.jpg
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I got produce this week and today ate another whole broccoli. At it because steaming fit the timeline of busy at X, be still wanted ready food at Y.
BingoBoingo also offer that yes the forgetfulness effect of drunk is exactly how one should avoid catching brain damage spread by Redditards.
BingoBoingo: Maybe the brain ETOH pickling is making my smash ideas that shouldn't be together, but... on a slow happenings day like today my brain needed chemical protection from the adverse effects of Reddit.
BingoBoingo: I took the red pill... two, in fact :-) << Quote from page
asciilifeform: (yes these are often given as homework.)
asciilifeform: whateverthefuck fpga cpu << http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/cadbook/Chapters/Chapter13/mips.v << mips.
BingoBoingo: mats: Anyways since you declared allegiance to New Reno USG I have to assume polio USG is spending more then $100k per year chasing less than a prius in Buttstamp valued BTC.
BingoBoingo: I dunno that the white F-150 is surveilling me, but...
BingoBoingo: And MIPS routers suggests there are people making small process MIPS chips which ought to mean less RF emissions for that asshole with the white F-150 to pick up.
BingoBoingo: Of the assemblies I am most familiar with 68k, but... If we are stuck with C machines until loper gets a CPU... If I have to do C machines the MIPS bare minimum of a C machine has a lot of appeal.
BingoBoingo: And yet I still have Treasury agent Broachwala's business card in case I want to confess tax crimes and not the mick/potato-nigger FBI agent's card.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've been searching for one that doesn't cost anal virginity or another FBI door knock
asciilifeform: 'pc engines' (swiss) ships similar boards with modern amd (64-bit) cpu, rather than intel turds, for half the price.
decimation: apparently it's popular to mod the clock on thier boards with something better, to use for ntp server
asciilifeform: TomServo: do they still ship ancient 'pentium' ?
decimation: TomServo: I was looking at their specs a few weeks ago
BingoBoingo: The lab is a construct of mine I posit as roughly equivalent to Luke-Jr's hindbrain. Probably flawed, but I hop at least not flawed in that way.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cisco is not permitted in my home even unpowered. << Technetium even if it is a perfect catalyst not invited to the lab.
asciilifeform: the only one i've ever opened actually had a... 486.
BingoBoingo: Edgerouter seemed a bargain, still seems best at what it is... just... disapoint that not as I hoped it could be abused into without the now apparent resistance
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not readily available, rather. (the only real alternative i can think of, built from extant hardware, is 'pc engines' - if you can abide x86)
decimation: I would consider purchasing it to replace the pc I'm using for that purpose
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc there is an experimental openbsd port as well.
asciilifeform: also some gpio pins that are, afaik, not brought out; and two uarts, one of which is soldered to the 'console' jack
asciilifeform: there's a usb socket on the board. comes filled with a 4g stick, no-brand aluminum pill.
asciilifeform: (i didn't care for the closed-source kernel mod)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'octeon' doesn't have an audio card.
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. little can be done to abstract the overengineered crazytown
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'strip' as in the util by same name on your unix box.
BingoBoingo: decimation: I would use crt serial plugged into RJ port. I assume at the moment stripped means instructions as part of 64 are fucked because "octeon" and no one cares for poor MPIS.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, asciilifeform not for the lack of fast, but for the defective. I've had octeon suspicions like I have longsoon suspicions, but cock sucking mother fucker.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo has been considering using one of those "Edgerouter Lites" as a desktop system << you don't want to do this, believe. i have freebsd running, but turns out that mips 'strip' is defective (can't be arsed to hunt for the endianism bug in it, could take a month) and half the ports tree won't build.
asciilifeform: decimation: did you use libusb-0.1 or -1.0 to develop cardano? or are you just using the kernel mass storage driver? << it mounts as a standard mass storage dev.
BingoBoingo: The one flaw is the tactics they attribute to Big city specialized intelligence unit were normalized in small town PD long ago
BingoBoingo: Fuck Chicago PD is the closest thing to actual LEX operation on 'Murican TV
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ya duh if the defense is "DPR was more than one person" then the obvious next step is "well and of course we shooped the key around"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Remember that time pankkake was like WTF is this giant incoming ATC transaction... And it was because in worst practices we had a private key together...
assbot: Today in Silk Road proceedings, prosecution showed that the Dread Pirate Roberts private PGP key was saved on Ulbricht's computer.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [] lulz https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/558037792568410112 << and yet nothing on motherboard, despite twitter's "source" of Kari Paul, nominally a writer for the rag in question.
punkman: decimation, so they are claiming 2-3 billion users total?
decimation: lol http://www.businessinsider.com/google-active-users-2015-1 " In other words, 0.2-0.3% of all G+ profiles, about 4-6 million users, have made public posts in 2015. "
punkman: I doubt they will actually migrate to node.js crapolade before 2016, seems like a lot of work
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for gavinandresen from -5 to -5 with note: has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <cedivad> Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that.
decimation: mats: in the case of the link above, people died waiting for 'rescue' after a metro train became 'stuck' near some kind of fire
punkman wonders if bitcointalk will break all the old links after upgrade
BingoBoingo: c something or other
mircea_popescu: anyone remember who was the bitcointa.lk sysadmin ? i recall he was here.
ben_vulpes: their proprietary spreadsheet program will only save documents compatible with the version of itself that runs on 10.10
decimation: I've been cursed with supporting osx at the office to some degree
ben_vulpes: decimation, yeah, that's the one.
mircea_popescu: thanks god that italian dude did the cached version eh.
mircea_popescu: the one a guy in sf made for $500k
mircea_popescu: did tardstalk just move over the new design ?
ben_vulpes: basically purpose built for them
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, it was great for the adobe suite
ben_vulpes: "just works" is dead. has been for like 3 revisions now, but the rest of the world is finally waking up to it.
mircea_popescu: why your mother specifically?
ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for robert viragh to call my mother and tell her i hang out with nasty people on the internets
ben_vulpes: oh, reddit discovered the fundation?
assbot: ButterNubber comments on I grew a neckbeard reading this "Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignity" (note: Link doesn't go to the actual Bitcoin Foundation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ArAA )
BingoBoingo: The first time was exactly one year ago +/- 5 days
BingoBoingo: but for story selection everything goes through the annoited editors anyway which is why some altcoin got two stories on consecutive days.
mircea_popescu: so the only way spamming it works is statistically ? gee.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically slashdot has "votes" but they get allotted at unpredicatable time intervals and expire.
BingoBoingo: The tragedy is I have an assload of modpoints atm, but can't spend them on this thread because I had to highlight the link sniping.
decimation: asciilifeform: did you use libusb-0.1 or -1.0 to develop cardano? or are you just using the kernel mass storage driver?
mircea_popescu: "So his mom cut him off from wiping his ass for him when he turned 18 and now he thinks the ladies owe him blowjobs. I hope bitcoin collapses just to fuck this guy."
BingoBoingo: decimation: Probably to an extent. Luke-Jr has a rather sort of logical structure organizing his schtick which seems self consistent while entirely problematic.
mircea_popescu: a naive stance, but then again neckbeards aren't exactly known for worldliness.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose it comes as one of those "nobody could have predicted" things to these people that the entire pile of crap they've been amassing over the years can and for that matter likely will simply be thrown out and forgotten.
decimation: to be fair, he did express some level of interest in the foundation project. perhaps he knows what is really true in his hindbrain
BingoBoingo: In much the same way he'd like a miner on a bench at BFL to have been a miner on his testing bench
mircea_popescu: now, he'd like for it to be the case, obviously, because that'd imply that the "Work" the power rangers have been doing for the past year is worth more than zero, which is a proposition he holds dear for obvious reasons.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues. << Things like Popes
mircea_popescu: in this case, he conveniently neglects the point that there is no \such thing as CURRENT consensus, in any way distinct from trhe actual consensus
mircea_popescu: decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so basically, im saying "this certain part of the us is now so infested, the cancer is mostly eating other cancer"
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 02:59:39; Luke-Jr: I think the db_config patch may explain why it works, but could be potentially inadequate for the current consensus rules
asciilifeform: !s the camel has two humps
mircea_popescu: this worm's progress made them use those words because apparently one is more of a bitch than the other.
mircea_popescu: they don't proceed from an in depth understanding of the thing, but merely by and by, as experience allows.
mircea_popescu: decimation that is happenstance, arriving from the very haphazard manner in which abstraction works out of the group of power rangers
mircea_popescu: a fire affects everything, related or not. this is more like cancer : it affects the victim, but not the chasir he sits on or the op fucking them in the ass.
decimation: Labeling one consensus as 'hard' and another as 'soft' doesn't seem to be a good use of language
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ourobourus eating itself as of this year. New in the public discussions of that crowd
mircea_popescu: these two have a lot of overlap, of course.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's more of a forest fire, and will burn until there is nothing to burn.
mircea_popescu: one is the consensus that allows for new blocks to be mined.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:39; gavinandresen: a hard fork means everybody running a full node must upgrade, or they will be on a different chain
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:24; gavinandresen: a soft fork means miners must upgrade, or their blocks will be rejected.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986212 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986214 << did 'distinction' strike anyone else as rather arbitrary?
nubbins`: "everyone else is a goat the same age and gender as me"
BingoBoingo: The girl was always fat, and weev was in jail. Girl fatlogiced a family and worksafe site then shuttered ED. The id didn't like that.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The founding of the funded blawg http://blog.ameliagreenhall.com/post/what-it-was-like-to-co-found-model-view-culture-with-shanley-kane
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only at the start. Deviating so far from LJ is why it had a hardfork crisis the coredevs lost.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And this is why I never got the appeal of 4chan except as distilled in retrospectives though Encyclopedia Dramatica
mircea_popescu: these fucking imbecile children of their imbecile mothers already. oh, college is too hard for you ? let's change the admission criteria! you wanna start a business but you're as dumb as fuckinmg rocks ? that's ok, start a blog instead. you wanna be a hacker too ? fine, fine, just edit some pronouns in other people's githubs.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To pay the, worked for a cloud bullshit company, violated the non-compete, and needed merit washed.
mircea_popescu: what exactly, to pay the blogspot hosting bill ?
kakobrekla: felipelalli well its a decent description of things. the name and the article. most people even fail to assemble that.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: She's the one who said something to the effect of Linux community needing to grow the balls to expel Linus or some shit.
kakobrekla: i like the gang of noise.
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is rather like selling 'superman's cape' sans flight
assbot: So the Dollar Vigilante scam ring is going to jail. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1umOXOr )
mircea_popescu: then went nutso with one of the "libertarian island" things which smells a lot like scam.
BingoBoingo: https://hashtalk.org/topic/29906/what-did-you-do-with-the-initial-ico-resources-investment << WFT'ening http://dpaste.com/2Y9D905
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i don't know anyone that seriously thinks they have a model on it << severely lacking in the whole conversation
ben_vulpes: dood there must only be one canonical window manager
asciilifeform: convenient dead tree collection of the material.
asciilifeform: there is nothing evil in it, and the first page is 'this is public domain material, copy freely' even.
BingoBoingo: O.o nubbins` why aren't you giving us the blow by blow on this drama? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10232533#msg10232533
BingoBoingo: It depends, but usually I win when odds in favor of Serena drop to under multiplying my stake by ten as the payout.
mircea_popescu: what were the odds ?
BingoBoingo: These occasions only happen a few times a year. Why not take whatever scam odds a shady book offers to turn no more than 0.2 BTC into 1 BTC.
BingoBoingo: But first she has to make it all of the way to round 5.
BingoBoingo: God Damn. It won't be until round 4 of the Australian open that a Serena Williams / Alize Cornet rematch is possible.
kakobrekla: hey, you are the pop culture expert!
mircea_popescu: (the one where she fucks naomi campbell)
CoraCrisT: readin` the logs..
CoraCrisT: enjoying myself with gavin`s wannabee reformed theology
BingoBoingo: So... Bunch of girlies are going to destroy their knees this summer http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-womens-world-cup-lawsuit-artificial-turf-20150121-story.html
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's a pretty good summary of it. Gotta hide the smokes.
assbot: The search for decency and the opposite of iatrogenics | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ydPvwk )
pete_dushenski: see: http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/31/the-search-for-decency-and-the-opposite-of-iatrogenics/
pete_dushenski: "harm caused by the healer"
pete_dushenski: undata mircea_popescu the term for this being, of course, iatrogenics
mircea_popescu: to the point it was pretty much comedic. they didn't TRY to do it. but they did it all the damned time
assbot: Nicolas Cage to Star in Osama Bin Laden Satire From 'Borat' Director (Exclusive) - The Hollywood Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxUGeZ )
mircea_popescu: that's the problem, what appears on the surface as doing one thing ends up doing the exact opposite when very complex systems are involved.
undata: mircea_popescu: I read your piece recently on how enfranchising all makes for significantly less representation in the society
mircea_popescu: <undata> this social media thing I think has created the notion that identity is a matter of self-definition << has little to do with social media tho. it's more an outgrowth of the "civil rights" movement.
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/HistoricalPics/status/558059008993820674 << 1 point for correctly identifying the laptop on the left
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's on the unpublished chart.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform [..] << You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges << i dunno dude, i never got the "all girlscout nookies" one.
pete_dushenski: selective filtering is completely mandatory for a functioning brain, if not in fact the best definition thereof
pete_dushenski: our wots can be so much larger than we can biologically manage that the signal is drowned out by the noise
pete_dushenski: as to "words meaning zero" it's more that we're privy, if not downright inundated, with words from people who don't know how to use them
pete_dushenski: in response, they cling to whatever presents itself, quite undiscriminatingly
undata: right, the erosion of measures of value could very well fuck thinking itself which leads to the abovementioned
undata: it seems alien to me that words mean precisely dick in the present
pete_dushenski: like russia from the usa
pete_dushenski: that's just the cleaving of importance from "importance"
pete_dushenski: the mind-rot has been baking in for a couple of decades
undata: leading to the mind-rot of multitudes
undata: rather than reputation
undata: this social media thing I think has created the notion that identity is a matter of self-definition
BingoBoingo: Find out about three career opportunities in the computer industry. Pick one and find out the education, training, and experience required for this profession. Discuss this with your counselor, and explain why this profession might interest you. Report what you learn to your counselor. << Doing this one now I'd pick curmudeon as a profession, and ask why writing OS is not a requirement.
asciilifeform: wasn't thinking of literal boyscouts, no (i know precious little about them)
undata: asciilifeform: web devs have the idea that making something == cobbling together open source with tape, the less tape the better, and voila, app
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: and 'write an os', per the barest technical definition, is not high science; it's a standard 'boy scout badge' in school. << You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and 'write an os', per the barest technical definition, is not high science; it's a standard 'boy scout badge' in school.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I'm just saying why don't they pretend better. Instead of throwing on fake spoilers and calling a car customer, this is the "I put a sticker on it" sort of effort.
undata: asciilifeform: words, you can just tweet them
kakobrekla: speaking of bc.info their page is showing 'cloudflare error 522' for more than an hour to me
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: especially when there is no *BSD/kLinux to counter all of these Distro/k*BSD
asciilifeform: i find these especially infuriating.
asciilifeform: yet another 'os'
pete_dushenski: if an e-mail and pwd were phishing or keylogged, the attacker just has to submit a form, wait two weeks, and voila!
pete_dushenski: and it turns out that it created a loophole the size of texas
pete_dushenski: they actually just added this e-mail auth thing outta nowhere
assbot: The problem of digital identity, or how to circumvent Blockchain.info 2FA and e-mail authorisation | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQ4s3N )
pete_dushenski: since scoopbot even likes davout more than me: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/22/the-problem-of-digital-identity-or-how-to-circumvent-blockchain-info-2fa-and-e-mail-authorisation/
assbot: I grew a neckbeard reading this "Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignity" (note: Link doesn't go to the actual Bitcoin Foundation) : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQ4c4y )
gribble: Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--last" in it. Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
mats: mircea_popescu: ensuring others have room to save face is one of my varied sins
asciilifeform: mats: then happily buy. back up periodically to actual disk.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well on the way down they might try to contort themself to leave a particular shape of splat.
asciilifeform: mats: basic takehome lesson re: ssd is that virtually everything coming out the vendors' mouths is a lie
thestringpuller: Put all the games on SSDs. no load time. heaven.
mats: re: previous SSD discussion (and many others), i don't mean to offend if i didn't specifically respond to you. i just had nothing good to say, but rest assured you have not been ignored
BingoBoingo: And one rarely has much choice in the splat
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to folks unacquainted with basic physics, mechanization gives a convincing illusion of 'phree stuff 4ever' << Until you have to get Santino ready for an open casket funeral after catching every bullet at the tollboth.
asciilifeform: http://www.genericradio.com/show.php?id=3e13162d58d2fe5c << ancient radio play based on the tale (which i cannot at present find)
asciilifeform: !s the lifeboat mutiny
mircea_popescu: only thing missing being, mickey doesn't put on the sorcerer's hat to go to some conference
mircea_popescu: there. yep.
assbot: YouTube Walt Disney Fantasia Mickey The Sorcerer's Apprentice - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxFy1j )
asciilifeform: more generally, when confronted with the mechanical 'guts' of something, this type of person will answer 'get this away from me, it is unclean'
mircea_popescu: and cryptographic security oozes out of the ether and miners are just this abstraction getting in the way of the ooze.
asciilifeform: because all you need is, would appear to be, energy, and everybody knows that it comes from the mains socket.
mircea_popescu: people who imagine endlessness is a natural phenomena need to spend less time cooped up in their rooms, dreaming up shit.
mircea_popescu: he won't charge anything. how did the quote go,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. they made women and children dependent on a man.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: you remind me of a legend, possibly soviet, regarding a fellow who took a part home from the factory every day for half a century, built airplane.
mircea_popescu: they just don't.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: may as well become counterfeiter if doing dope ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: cash found where?
mircea_popescu: that said, remittances in the us are a total nightmare, because a) the us is principally insane and b) the entrenched interests of current processors work against the customers.
asciilifeform: jurov: to be fair, the 'problems' i have all stem from the fact of being paid, and having expenses in, fiat.
mircea_popescu: so, spare me the reddit nonsense. bitcoin, money, and good stuff aren't for poor people.
mircea_popescu: and exactly nobody would ever know, exactly how the foregoing episode is known specifically and exclusively because i chose to share it.
mircea_popescu: jurov for what it's worth, here's my experience with bitcoin remittances : i sent btc to otc correspondents, ordered wires sent out to the hk account of my local agent, who has paid me dollars, in cash, in argentina. the entire process took less than what it takes to get a letter of credit, and significantly less than what international trade normally settles in.
mircea_popescu: "<gavinandresen> My point is the point of Bitcoin is I can make a transaction to anybody in the world" << uhh.... if this is the point of bitcoin then bitcoin has at all points been so far offpoint it's a wonder it's still here.
mircea_popescu: http://www.wikihow.com/Contact-Warren-Buffett << this is like the lulziest shit ever
mircea_popescu: davout: i'm more of classical music and jazz guy << i knew there was a reason i liked you!
mircea_popescu: because maybe it's against the law.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, the industrial revolution was started by, and driven by, the textile industry.
davout: i think the idea of a one time bump of the block-size limit is actually much less braindamaged than the perpetual increase approach or infinite size that are pure folly
mircea_popescu: guess what : mining is a marginal business as it is, and exactly the problems that ruined the western textile industry in your parent's lifetime can and will, if given a chance, ruin bitconi.,