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a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 02:28 asciilifeform: 'On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.'
mircea_popescu: specifically : the oldest illustration of "robotics" in the charlie chaplin deeply misguided http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1043874 approach (and yes, i am very unimpressed by charlie chaplin as the "intellectual great" pantsuit make him out to be, specifically because this sort of deliberate stupidity to cater to pantsuit nonsense dun count as wisdom) is an amelia bedelia-esque "person sent to broom will broom the room, r
a111: Logged on 2019-01-02 15:31 asciilifeform: mats: i haven't built anyffing useful from ice40 with own hands yet. but, interestingly, when bought a 'scsi2sd' device for replacing disk in bolix box, found that author in fact used ice40 for the job
asciilifeform: briefly upstack to the archaeologies : switched on the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883853 device, and it worx a++++, simulates cdroms even (arbitrary # of'em) , and hdds, etc
mircea_popescu: there's a good principle in there we're digging out.
mircea_popescu: Mocky but the important part is "resilient design" so to speak : it should keep polling after doing what it thought it did. same exact thing as with the "put stuff in inv" : put all you find of the type you're putting, if you miss some on one cycle, catch up on next. sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: anyone knows who this is then ?
lobbesbot: Mocky: Sent 19 hours and 34 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> further issue with bot for your list : if it dings two skills, it only trains one. really it should have a check ~before~ crafting whether it can do any skill upgrading somehiow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i do not know whether he tuned out entirely, or lurks, or which.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 16:59 asciilifeform: given as the fella didn't end up sticking to republic, i dun expect we'll ever find out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884081 << any reason you believe this ? (i have nfi, there's some obligation to participate in the sense of weighing in on decisions for the lordship, but afaikl dude never was/wanted to be, and for the citizenry at large there's no such thing is there ?)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 16:49 asciilifeform: box is dead in the water on apparently all linux kernels since ~2006ish, and seems like nobody gives a fuck.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884068 << i don';t expect any of the ten thousand fly eyes has a dec, ever had a dec, or can come up with any actual use for a dec. or for that matter care to know whether their code doesn't work at all. different paradigm!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe, but maybe deep link to the something useful.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 16:36 diana_coman: well, it's meant as replacement not as alternative so I don't see why would one keep the sha patches; onth replacement in place aka no name change doesn't break anything either
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 14:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884045 << heathen www, hosted on garbage hoster, but turned out to be packed full of useful retro-comp tidbits, is all.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884048 << oh i see. i just saw a "omfg my traffux" dork "blogger" typical piece, the numbers seemed low for a month of amateur bloggership so had to take a 2nd look, turned out they're FOR THE YEAR, what can yo9u do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i won't know whether the 'constanttimeism litmus' actuallyworx, until i dredge up an iron where it outputs negative
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 01:22 asciilifeform quite fond of alpha, the architecture book was ~thin~
asciilifeform: they're nifty boxes, in some ways (e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877067 , and the mobo slides in and out without tools )
mircea_popescu: in other news, i look at the time, and it's 13:37.
mircea_popescu: next we're going to dig up a 1990 era soviet stolen sub to run it on their handcranks also.
asciilifeform: the spindle sounds like dental drill, the head motor -- like door buzzer.
asciilifeform: 1 of those 15,000rpm scsi items. ( 'alpha' is moar or less the 'money no object' box from late '90s-early-2000s, tended to have the most outlandish periphs
mircea_popescu: jesus that was the era of loud hdds
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884066 << aand to properly round off the thread, that box nao runs openbsd ( which worx 100% ) , for nao.
asciilifeform: ( it also buys the ability to know where in array you are, without 'pointerisms' )
asciilifeform: when i started with adaism, i initially found the preservation of indexing in array-slices annoying. but then saw the wisdom, it whips programmer into having a much firmer grasp of wtf he is doing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you read ch10, you will find that i had to rewrite some of the basic arithm logic, so as to remove dependence on indexing.
asciilifeform: btw no doubt must remain whatsoever re this point in the mind of anyone contemplating switching off the range checks in their build (this buys ~2x 'phree' speedup)
asciilifeform: imho the de-facto convention i proposed is reasonable tho -- if the array is a local creation, and its indexing is known, then to refer to it explicitly is permissible. otherwise, not.
asciilifeform: i took the approach where i built the thing maximally-compactly, and then proceeded in direction of 'now let's make it go in less than geological time'.
diana_coman: heh, talked in parallel there; I know and that's why I did not mention it at all at first; it was just because you asked for as much nitpick as possible, so now it's at least said
asciilifeform: diana_coman: where this appears, it is a concession to 1) speed 2) brevity of code . where the indexing of the array is known, because it is a local buffer, it is referred to explicitly; invocations X'First, X'Last, etc cost measurable cpu, it turned out. but where indexing is not known ( e.g. if operand may be part of a karatsuba ) , there it is unavoidably X'First etc.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, it was rather basic stuff but the fact is that I read Knuth ~10 years ago so refresh was long due
diana_coman: if nitpick at all, the one thing that consistently nags at me (though for which I can't make up my mind as to actual solution) is the implicit reliance on indices to be in fact starting from 1 when copying stuff e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians.kv#L187
asciilifeform: hence the importance of other thinking folx giving the thing a thorough walk.
asciilifeform: almost always sharp edge is invisible to the orig author, who 'knows where not to run fingers'
diana_coman: the trouble is that "sharp edges" are quite often operator-shaped as it were
asciilifeform: ftr i very much appreciate all nitpicks, even purely stylistic ones, an explicit objective of ffa is to be not only bug-free but entirely clean of sharp edges, to the extent possible on the available irons.
asciilifeform: given as the fella didn't end up sticking to republic, i dun expect we'll ever find out.
diana_coman: actually rather curious why doesn't apeloyee sign what he reads
asciilifeform: currently yer the champ in ffaology.
asciilifeform: ty for putting in the sweat, diana_coman
diana_coman: apeloyee beat me to the cut; nothing else so far
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i fixed the links by hand, there were only a handful.
asciilifeform: box is dead in the water on apparently all linux kernels since ~2006ish, and seems like nobody gives a fuck.
asciilifeform: ty for the eggog report, diana_coman
asciilifeform: but i'ma have to fix the links.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-26 22:00 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly like most folx who actually work on proggies, asciilifeform has '9000' vtrees on various disk, on various boxen, that are in classical format, and many not even intended for publication, the ones that see daylight naturally will become newtype
diana_coman: well, it's meant as replacement not as alternative so I don't see why would one keep the sha patches; onth replacement in place aka no name change doesn't break anything either
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hm , i thought phf had the older ones still in there
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you broke all your links on your www to FFA code on btcbase when you changed the name of vpatches because of keccak vs sha: e.g. btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians/tree/ffa/ffacalc/cmdline.ads#L42 in Ch8 404s now because no ".kv"
asciilifeform: loox like only the trb www moved, ml was on separate box, still needs moving.
diana_coman: I was under the impression it moved
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884045 << heathen www, hosted on garbage hoster, but turned out to be packed full of useful retro-comp tidbits, is all.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen oddities, https://astr0baby.wordpress.com
mircea_popescu: i thought that was the substance of teh announcement :p
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: vintage gentoo, for smoketest, afaik there is not currently a cuntoo for dec
mod6: Also, the latest Bitcoin Foundation report was published to the ML: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-January/000321.html
mircea_popescu: people got really excited about the whole tv txt mode or w/e that was called
asciilifeform: ( sadly all the fast 'alphas' are )
asciilifeform: i dunthink classic dec had this horror either (who the fuq! needs colour blinkies in a bios setup?!) , it's a post-compaq-acquisition box
asciilifeform: i only run into this when i pull ancient cursed irons from the dark depths.
asciilifeform: dec otoh wanted to be speshulsnowflake and their firmware console is... vt220
asciilifeform: was hoping there was a simple 'vt220 rightnao' flag i overlooked.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform is, shit thee not, engentooating a dec alpha )
asciilifeform: the docs are shite
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu & other 'gnu screen' people -- anybody recall how to switch the thing to vt220 ?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-september-and-october-1715-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of September and October, 1715 - Part I.
mircea_popescu: besides, should fucking annoy her ; otherwise she'll want another.
mircea_popescu: so there you go.
asciilifeform: this yes. popgun kid annoys only own mother and perhaps neighbours. 'eternal september' kid, annoys '9000' with erry pop
mircea_popescu: but there's more to it -- running around the hillside belongs in the fucking hillside, i'll just not camp there.
mircea_popescu: if nothing else the "online" is unhealthy.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-02 21:33 mircea_popescu: so it'd have been preferable if retarded cuntspawn spent its days with THAT, rather than http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838623
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883990 << fwiw i dun distinguish the 2 kabikus, both -- snoar from asciilifeform's pov
asciilifeform: he report. from the age of five, i knew what is 'last round' -- the little shining key that opens in your skull (or heart, tastes vary) the door to soviet Valhalla. the pistol always seems to me not simply a personal, but an intimate weapon, a tuning fork by which one measured resolve: put its barrel to your noggin, and think, will you be able to pull the trigger when the right time comes ? the warring motherland , surrounded by foes
asciilifeform: 'i remember all of my pistols. there wasn't a single one that i hadn't blown out my brains with at least once. we used to shoot ourselves often in those days. pistols and revolvers were indispensable toybox inventory, all kinds : on batteries, with buzzing motors inside, of tin, stinking of burned popgun ribbon, ones that merely snapped, emitted at least a clanking sound, and silent ones, where the throat was called upon to imitate t
asciilifeform: the spring in toy 'nagant' notably, was quite possibly stiffer than in actual nagant which i fired many yrs later
asciilifeform: ( and even the theatrics, tended to be made of cast iron and quite realistic in mass, if not function )
asciilifeform: in '80s su they were obv. theatrics, but allegedly in earlier times they were sometimes made from 'de-mil' actual pistol.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-02 21:27 mircea_popescu: anyone even remembers those things ? long strip of ticker tape rolled up, with spots of gunpowder or w/e, phosphorus in the middle, pistol had a hammer that fell on the spot made some noise and some smoke.
BingoBoingo: Granted this was also the time fireworks went from roughly what the Latinos get today to something that required crossing the state line into Missouri for anything other than pussy sparklers and popcaps
mircea_popescu: so it'd have been preferable if retarded cuntspawn spent its days with THAT, rather than http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838623
mircea_popescu: the only problem is, kids running around with popguns are VERY easy for me to ignore -- witness the 0 import or effect of all the "bust a cap in yo ass" nigglet morons.
BingoBoingo: Well near the end they also switched from tape to rings of 8 charges
mircea_popescu: "too violent" or w/e, "insufficiently respectful of the cunt worlview"
BingoBoingo: There were indeed plastic versions for short time
BingoBoingo: I remember. They started to disappear from retail something around second grade when anything that wasn't Chicom plastic got purged from the walmart toy shelves
mircea_popescu: VERY AUTHENTIC
mircea_popescu: anyone even remembers those things ? long strip of ticker tape rolled up, with spots of gunpowder or w/e, phosphorus in the middle, pistol had a hammer that fell on the spot made some noise and some smoke.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this entire, "anonymous" "deep web" etc is the cowboy hat and snap toy pistol of the 2010s.
diana_coman: trinque, how's it going with getting the Cuntoo .vpatch in fixed shape?
diana_coman: ahahah, the intro there sounds like the typical school composition
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, firefox zoom is GLOBAL. not per-tab. GLOBAL. holy shit what.
mircea_popescu: the L crowd.
asciilifeform: the only folx for whom 'mystery' and 'requires' 50,000 ln of overflowlang -- are koch et al
asciilifeform: on top of these, 4 or 5 iron 'libs' ('smartcards', etc), where even sadder algos in use
asciilifeform: there's 4 or 5 'libs' in common use (depending on whether count microshit's)
mircea_popescu: yeah, and their name is collectively "koch" and "the gnu foundation"
asciilifeform: ( the punchline is that koch, ssl, etc are ~in this set~ )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'homebrew crypto', there actually was a 1990s plague of commercial shitware folx who flunked arithmetic and then went to 'implement rsa', with exponent = 1 and so on
asciilifeform: what 'jobs' made of << i'm still stuck in 1990s, where they're 'made of' winblowz bugs..
mircea_popescu: then the INSTANTLY!!!!! turns into minutes, that turn into long hours and longer days, weeks and whatever, eventually the idea forms in the precious cuntlet's brainbox that no, just because she's never heard anyone call her stupid before dun mean jack ; and all this "consensus" of silence is in the end exactly that : a consensus OF SILENCE.
mircea_popescu: biquarterly i get a "but mp, you know how you could really improve trilema readership ?! MAKE IT AN APP!!!" "why ?" "because i have unexamined headcockroaches about the influence, importance and interest of social media" "how about we put your cunt on your linkedin and see how long until someone says something ?" "FAPFAPFAPFAP"
mircea_popescu: what do you think all those "jobs" out there are made out of.
asciilifeform: until nao i had nfi there were ~app~ lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's the app, not the platform.
mircea_popescu: "do we already have to DO this" conversation whereby who the fuck told mary sue moron she's the center of the world ?
mircea_popescu: here, have a recent sample : AL_GA_Peach 26F Exploring "The message literally cuts off after whatever it is you’re. I don’t know not having all of the information is a mark against my intelligence but okay."
a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: it's the same old http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-04#700916 algo, 4evah, neh
mircea_popescu: they've got a gpgcrash, a bitcoincrash, an everythingcrash. why don't you care!!!
mircea_popescu: AS FUCKING IF it is or ever could be the case ~they're~ the mp of this world or something.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
mircea_popescu: what's hilarious is the ever-present http://trilema.com/2017/global-warming-on-triton/#selection-154.0-157.103 whereby they'll imaginarily seat themselves in my seat and start spewing http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349 slash assorted nonsense about "homebrew crypto" lalala.
asciilifeform: imho it's pretty hilarious, that the heathens think they have 'crypto libs' that 'work'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In their dreams, that's San Fernando. Hollywood jacks off into plants nowadays, per Miramax.
mircea_popescu: preferably on-cam. the fundamental moment of cinema is when mr talking potatohead whips out a home-brought stick of butter and unexpectedly buttseks maria schneider over her amazed surprise. naught else.
asciilifeform: iirc he even gets specially-issued leather couch for this
mircea_popescu: cuz that is the fucking job of the producer, i don't care what "american moron's association" "trade practices" are. as long as it's a set, and something'\s shooting, the producer's job is to rape the talent.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the last time anything worth watching had anyone from our colonies involved was... about then.
mircea_popescu: hey, "nobody watches pulp fiction because [some anon schmuck claimed she was raped by] Weinstein", i actuallty heard this said (by some girly who never saw any movie worth the mention in her ~~~entire~~~ coupla decades. they say this, too, like it's a thing. "my whole life". )
asciilifeform: granted, scythe of 'father time' does impose an asymptotic bound on the whole thing. eventually usg will be 100% resemble staff of arsebook, google, etc, then curtain call.
mircea_popescu: xx could at the very most be secretary.
mircea_popescu: no, we're talking of "we're all in this together and women may even be a part of it and we're not even gonna call them tailhookers, invent pompous nonsense like 'hr' and seat everyone at a table" bs.
asciilifeform: it imho makes sense tho that the most idiotic/bruteforce-powered ( per naggum's http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-265.249-265.730 formulation ) usgisms, also leak the most .
asciilifeform: imho e.g. diddled pgp rng, is moar interesting than firefucks buffer overrun, the latter is used 9000/d but for whom is used the former i have nfi, it hasn't publicly leaked.
asciilifeform: eh the notion there from start was 'goodstuff is used sparingly'. but i've nfi where used.
mircea_popescu: i think of the various strange ideas you started off with, this "hitler is intellectually respectable, does great magicks" thing fared the worst.
asciilifeform: these, apparently, counted as 'evidence'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883888 << the sores of the boobytrap leaked same yr, it was mightily disappointing ( no fancy trojan, but instead a little thing that sent back victim's external ip / winblowz ver / nic addr / etc, sorta like what microshit itself sends out when winblowz crash )
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma do the bernsteinizer in straight asm. ( but this is ~9000th on the list of things-to-do atm )
mircea_popescu: that's what i mean, they're "clever"
asciilifeform: the 'uncut' gmp is not afaik used anywhere in our mechanisms, with the exception of phuctor, where a (patched) variant is used for bernsteinization
asciilifeform: at some point if i can be arsed to read their sores, will find out what, specifically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didnt try patching out the test ( given as it's got montgomery, the answer will be soup ) but did try for odd exp, got ~same~ as for the nonconstanttime gmp knob ( which is pretty hilarious, means that they dun do anything differently for 'constant time' variant, evidently )
asciilifeform: how they enforce this, is apparently like this
mircea_popescu: patch out the test, i guess. they're "clever" like that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883866 << it says the ~mod~ has to be odd, not the exp. the exp nonzero.
trinque: afaik they're just displaying the rdns in deedbot's case, isn't a cloak
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the idea, nickserv rejects your call if un"encrypted" ?
mircea_popescu: that they are. i mean nothing wrong with having, and it's an achievement for say nicoleci to get herself one ; but i wouldn't base design decisions on them.
asciilifeform: i dun see what, if anything, is lost if they were thrown.
asciilifeform: they're decorative, imho.
BingoBoingo: Plants tend to be huge pussies indoors. The survivors tended to do pretty well.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-02 16:15 asciilifeform: trinque: iirc the tls crapola is only there because fleanode went full tard coupla yrs back and demands it for nick auth
BingoBoingo: Growing tomatoes back home the biggest bitch and mortality sink was hardening off the indoor started seedlings.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's the usual heathen hypothesis (aka 'hormesis'). mircea_popescu seems to favour the other one (and seems moar plausible to asciilifeform) , where straight 'burn-in test'
asciilifeform: ( the gulag folx chalked it up to 'lack of vodka' for the most part tho )
BingoBoingo: Same thing happens with many cultivated plants. Application of the right and grave trauma (repeatedly in the case of fruit trees) does all sorts of wonders
asciilifeform: to the point that some folx used expression 'so-and-so was mothballed' (i.e. 'in conservation')
mircea_popescu: "i also wonder why all these rich folks gather round and laugh their asses at us, the goddess' chosen folk, all the damn time"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc auschwitz also had 'elixir of youth' effect on the folx who were still movin' in '45
mircea_popescu: if you get rid of the lower bottom, thus and therefore averages climb.
asciilifeform: fwiw ordinary (no attempt at constanttime on their end) mpz_powm() , gives 0.005s . (so the asm does help'em.)
asciilifeform: ( i.e. loox like they use montgomery's algo. )
asciilifeform: in other noose, earlier this wk , asciilifeform tried to repeat http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2906 test , but using 'gmp', the 'uncut' version of koch's thing, with asmism etc. but lo and behold, it is apparently impossible to repeat the full test battery, because :
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'export ban' list is a hilarious read. ~nothing is ever removed from it, most of the thing was written in '80s-90s, and contains such items as fpga (afaik none are made in usa or have ever been, but somehow this dun stop the clowns) , and in practice seems to be used as 'lettre de cachet' against undesirables.
asciilifeform: if one absolutely insists on that feature, prolly Right Thing would be to patch bot so can hang off a znc ( i tried this with own hands, but failed, the existing item is apparently tailored to fleanode-direct connection )
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc the tls crapola is only there because fleanode went full tard coupla yrs back and demands it for nick auth
trinque: probably the thing to do is a) rip out the tls part and b) get deedbot hosted on cuntoo
asciilifeform: mats: i haven't built anyffing useful from ice40 with own hands yet. but, interestingly, when bought a 'scsi2sd' device for replacing disk in bolix box, found that author in fact used ice40 for the job
asciilifeform: mats: neat overview, in the style of 'why ada'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom oddities, https://archive.is/pTck2
mats: and a special thanks to phf for his great www logger! i use it every other day
lobbes: Besides that, I agree; I've yet to meet a recruiter who actually knew the job they were filling. For the most part they are just checking boxes on a list of 'keywords' the company's $hr-department gave them (and half the time that hr dept is also blindly following this list)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-01 04:15 Mocky: i've just started looking in charlotte recently lobbes. Other than passing on your resume if you're deemed worth, not sure a recruiter ever does anything on behalf of the the candidate
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-01#1883830 << In my experience they are only useful as conduits to job postings that you may not have been able to see otherwise.
mircea_popescu: (item then resulted in "the battle of lewisham" chapter of british racial harmony lulz.)
Mocky: i've just started looking in charlotte recently lobbes. Other than passing on your resume if you're deemed worth, not sure a recruiter ever does anything on behalf of the the candidate
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-31#1883793 << Mocky, if you feel like moving to the cardboard-cutout city of charlotte there's a glut of 'high paying' 'move these meaningless bits around for robo hitler' jobs . If you want I can give you a recruiter contact that worked for me
lobbes: And while I will continue the above described archive process, right now I have too many irons in fire to work on making a proper archive.is substitute. (Imo, this'd be a perfect area for an hero to step in)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-28#1883486 << just to clarify, lobbesbot atm only downloads the archives ~from archive.is~. (I.e. when archive.is croaks we will have the archive ~history~ but no means of archiving going forward)
diana_coman: billymg, looks good; perhaps mirror the whole mp-wp tree somewhere as you seem to be working on mp-wp?
diana_coman: basically you're spoiling good rum over there!
mircea_popescu: BUT THEN!!! i had some raisins marinating in [the world's finest] rum overnight for hanbot's cozonac making ; and of course there were leftovers, and what can you do, they went into the batch of mint cocoa popsicles being brewed.
mircea_popescu: at which point our story starts to flesh out : one day in recent memory i tried out this popsicle stick on apple juice, and holy hell it';s great. so now in an exploration mood, i tried out the cocoa in them, and OMFG, excellent icecream!
mircea_popescu: yet there it sat, because really, who the hell drinks instant cocoa. until a few months ago, i can't even recall when, we bought a popsicle kit. which, you know, take bimbos out to plastic joystore, what are you going to end up with, makeshift dildos and popsicle sets.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in better living through technology : illo tempore i had bought a tin of (actually very delicious) instant mint cocoa. cuz we were doing the whole check out the wonder of colonial goodies, and we pretty much brought all the britt things (fine brand of local chocolateria).
mircea_popescu: not even saying there IS something you could do, at that. what you don't know is what you don't know.
mircea_popescu: impossible to fucking evaluate, this. "the resume is getting me interviews [with the sort of people it gets me interviews with ; while not getting me interviews with the sort of people it doesn't get me interviews with. what am i to do ?]".
diana_coman: ah, "good" in the sense of amount
Mocky: the resume gets me interviews. if I wasn't getting interviews I'd worry more about the resume.
diana_coman: Mocky, I'd expect nothing really moves at this time of the year really; but anyway, for my curiosity: what gives then if "good interest" but no job?
Mocky: nicoleci, thx. I get good interest from the resume so I can't blame that. Just gotta keep with the crank winding.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2018/12/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-january-february-and-march-1714-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of January, February and March, 1714 - Part IV.
Mocky: mircea_popescu, maybe it will in the morning. I need some sleep
mircea_popescu: Mocky if this may help you take heart, ~everyone's employability is ~epsilon in the us. "jobs" work as alt-welfare conduits, no genuine productivity is present or contemplated.
lobbesbot: Mocky: Sent 4 days, 6 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <hanbot> eulora bot feature request: ability to reject mining claims by type. for instance mining bn costs me moar than merely striking it with a tool; i've gotta sink materials into it, whereas the resulting bn isn't worth the cost of those materials to me atm. 'ignore bn' or somesuch would be really useful.
mircea_popescu: possibly they had nobody who could c
BingoBoingo: Otherwise it is just Jews shooting at Russians because "the pale" or something
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol, yet ~another~ war the us lost ? << Well this war is US+Israel, but it seems the only think that was keeping it a war was the US being there.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "believe!!! why don't you believe ?!?!" files, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JzCb2/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "firmware" is like the roma capitale of the l-creatives, it's where the best sads live
mircea_popescu: was there a more spurious empire in the history of africa ? i get it, niggers can't compete with humans. but even among the chimps, they're competing ~the wrong end~.
mircea_popescu: lol, yet ~another~ war the us lost ?
BingoBoingo: And how many other motherfuckers in the building got the call without chasing the pichi away
BingoBoingo: He was sent off without una moneda, because what the fuck
BingoBoingo: In other news, one of the fucking Pichis tried walking a database. This morning I was in the shower when the Porteria Electrica rang. The voice on the other end had a thick accent I couldn't understand, so I offered "un momento", put on clothes, and went to the door of the building...
asciilifeform: ( presumably there's a pair of contacts that gets an uart, haven't found it yet tho, it's a low-priority thread )
asciilifeform: thing has not only debugger, but 'kermit'-compat 'xmodem' shell, in there.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform recently disasmed a raid card fw turd ( of the type found in dulap, s.mg, and several other boxes asciilifeform built ) ; turned out that it's ~little-endian ppc~, which i had nfi even existed; and on top of this, built in ~cpp~, which is also a 1st on my watch in re fwturds
mircea_popescu: alpine, there's no jungle there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you suppose keeps the jungle from reclaiming that clearing ? ( do folx with machetes show up erry week, or wat )
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-community-of-division-or-puteria-y-verduleria/ << Trilema -- The Community of Division. Or, Puteria y Verduleria.
trinque: ah, screen's already on there, works fine
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is tmux a thing that makes sense on the shared hosting server?
BingoBoingo: <trinque> http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat << I'll add reading through the old posts to the to do list.
BingoBoingo: I'll put some time into reading up on weechat. The opposition is at the moment I just don't know much about it.
trinque: no tmux on uy1 either though eh?
trinque: what's the opposition to just adding bins with whatever package manager you're using?
BingoBoingo: trinque: I have not set up a Weechat before. If the hosting lacks something weechat needs, I can consult with asciilifeform to remedy that so you can get weechat running. I but I am not familiar enough with weechat to do setups for customers myself at the present time.
mod6: Then can re-evaluate/re-test a bit if it's helpful.
mod6: I'll make some blog posts (eventually) when i go through setting up cuntoo and the musltronic GNAT from ave1.
mod6: Ok, well, maybe this isn't very useful then. But will throw it out here anyway. Good to know
mod6: The one caviat about the timings is that I had to take out some of the inlines and pragmas to make it compile correctly. my GNAT 2015 version seems to have some funkyness to it -- we've actually discussed this before. Wanna just see a wotpaste?
asciilifeform: mod6: if you already took the time to benchmark, then plox to post, ty
mod6: asciilifeform: congrats btw! I've been attempting very much not to read ahead or anything, I still need to work through the chapters. I did however build all of the latest keccak vpatches in your vtree. I did some timings on my old test blox (core2duo) if you're curious.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
billymg: family is visiting today so won't be around for the rest of the evening though, back online tomorrow
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-27#1883449 < quick update: using diana_coman's keccak-compatible v.pl, the vpatch i posted before pressed without issue. will write up a blog post with details on the patch, and another post with the patch for the svg file links
asciilifeform: https://arxiv.org/abs/1009.3956 << lol, they're a bourbaki apparently.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:36 asciilifeform: let's model the ideal prime-shitter. it would be an item that takes integer N , of whatever bitness, and produce the Nth prime ( or eggog if the Nth prime is bigger than the register bitness permitted. )
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2018/12/the-tippecanoe-river/ << Bimbo.Club -- The Tippecanoe River
BingoBoingo: More on the riot in Malvin. This is what happens when a country likes sports, wants to compete on an elite level regionally, and can only field two teams: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/imm-hara-una-denuncia-penal-por-disturbios-durante-festejo-de-navidad-en-malvin-20181228202844
asciilifeform: ( i.e. sequence where only ADD, SUB, MUL, SHR/SHL, MOV, all the way from head to toe , a,b,c in, a^b mod c comes out )
asciilifeform: the other thing, if one is writing a proggy where only 1 ffawidth is used, it is possible to unroll all of the loops, derecursivize karatsuba, etc. and get straight line of instructions
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sadly i do not know how to 'guarantee perfection'. all i know how to do is to bake maximally 'fits in head' and bank that the folx here will find mistake if it turns out that i made one.
diana_coman: fwiw I like very much that "pedantic" there
asciilifeform: ( hence the somewhat pedantic treatment of the subj, 2 separate proofolade articles. was going for 'measure 7777 times, cut 1ce' there. )
asciilifeform: you may find it interesting that asciilifeform's 1st shot at barrett managed to have a subtly fatal mistake in the proof, and correspondingly a proggy that failed on <0.1% of input space.
asciilifeform: this is the place where slow an' careful is the Right Thing.
diana_coman: that's precisely why the slow pace - I need a bit of fresher mind to get back and read through the rest of ffa
asciilifeform: ( the key work for diana_coman et al, from ffaology pov, is to eat the proofs )
asciilifeform: diana_coman -- will be interesting to see benchmarks from your irons, if you get the chance.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 00:20 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722411 << 1 ) ffa is closed form. i.e. it CAN be written as a number of nand gates, with a 'funnel' at the top, to which you present a,b,c, e.g. 4096bit, numbers, and at the bottom in a little cup you get a^b mod c , and with NO UPWARDS FEEDBACK FLOW of information , i.e. answer comes after same interval of time always, and with strictly downwards signals.
asciilifeform: the other thing we get, is of course http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722435 .
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 13:52 asciilifeform: ( bonus is that the closed form is not only constant time, but substantially faster on pc, nomoar branch prediction misses )
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860844 << see also oldthread where the same effect )

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