(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust justusranvier
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is precisely the fud.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: user did idiot shit with code, code broke. surprise!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and van-ads.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: justusranvier: yeah, i run ch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.001/21000000
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's a thousandth of a coin worth in three decades?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: traffic is worthless. tips?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah mostly joshin ;)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3ebmn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey justusranvier i see you collecting btctips off my work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: still waiting on an explanation of http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phpsauce
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yet with the vim
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you mean this shit on github?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol what the ever locing fuck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: access to the conformal code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this negrating is for this set of things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like i said
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rating ninjashogun positively for "politeness"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: throwing fud at Conformal for "politeness"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit's just mad suspicious.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all right all right!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this minus is for this set of things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and these other minuses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's got these pluses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i've got my WoT over here, mkay?
(trilema) ben_vulpes drums fingers angrily
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they are for trustworthiness and trustworthiness only.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or "civility"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: ratings are not for "politeness"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cannot deal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !down Tao_Jones
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg << what the hell does that even mean
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: if you don't understand why this conversation belongs in #bitcoin-assets...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow that's quite the paste
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, midnightmagic there is no playing nice with "core" dev "team".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3t55d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look at this reddit angst
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh jesus you guys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh not actually ninjashogun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: what is this lawsuit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: i did for quite some time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pythugh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: orly gribs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic ninjashogun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and what is this charitable thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're the lone positive supporter of ninjaspamgun.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: conformal is not misbehaving.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no playing nice with bitcoin-core.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: is this you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3kwf4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3848beb16b68ec5ecee1475ddbe35c09c87cb06bfa9f07946cc58571
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;everify if we're defending against collisions, extracting keyids doesn't help much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotcha.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in that there is a signature and a keyid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but in the case of an unknown key, pgp cannot determine if a signature is valid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can you even verify a signature without a public key?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the former all it does is...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the latter case it compares the known pubkey to the sig
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and gpg verifies that the keyid is valid for the sig?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hash == keyid, right? where does gpg get the hash? from the signature itself?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "x" in this case - hash or name + email fields?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or that the signature is valid for hash "x" but that there may be collisions?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so signed by "x" does not imply that the signature is valid?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s ben_vulpes lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: it's like "i find this amusing, even though nobody else probably does, or someone's trolling me, but it's not quite lolworthy")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hue
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have two whole beers to get through before i knock off for the long weekend i want to read more unit tests
(trilema) ben_vulpes: MolokoDeck: care to share ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gribble does sigver?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: john m kerry thanks mircea_popescu !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: zplzplpzlpzlpz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: zlp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm dying here halp pl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: regarding borrowing gold and refusing to pay it back?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the "no congress shall be held to the agreements of a previous congress" citation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can message gribble privately, MolokoDeck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't even recall the name of the suit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does anyone have a link to the lawsuit by the guy who sued the usg for the gold they 'borrowed'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to that thing where coinbase straight up blocks certain addrs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/95927658922/coinbase-insured << but not for cold storage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can now provision my app cannon onto arbitrary amazon accounts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have beaten aws into submission
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess that period's fine after all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably the wise thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: SHARE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: show meeeee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what kind of text?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're texting photos of van?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: open it open it open it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i see where you're coming from, jurov.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: twist: wherever consultant suggests hosting move, that's where hosting will move.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keep in mind this is a wp hosting company using plesk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assume that client a has the most cash flowing through the box by 2 orders of magnitude. is hosting company b's behavior reasonable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: client brings in consultants to look at their security, and consultants ask for shell access to the server on which client sites are running. hosting company b flat declines consultants access to hardware.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's client a, hosting company b, and consultants c
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so here's an interesting interpersonal situation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hard for anyone to value properly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoins now vs bitcoins later i guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: receptionist rates were too high
(trilema) ben_vulpes: uh ho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google fuck you i'm a dragon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: world keeps moving forwards while you're playing at being a dragon, thestringpuller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: i use a kindle, would like a kindle dx.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never mind pankkake. sorry to bother everyone.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh god that's bad. "."?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dat fractal of bad design
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they also emailed me my password in plaintext
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pankkake> you're not ashamed of that .php? :p << not my service
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (it's a joke)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (hue)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: van is a flawless crystal of tests tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my life is a patchwork of duct tape
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah that xml is totes broken.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i derped a feed together for cascadianhacker.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah hi pankkake
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;late tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "it's going down it's going down like there's a whale in the boat"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who runs penguirker?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a transition in the lifecycle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quit wasting precious hydrocarbons ffs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: push your meat around.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get on a bike.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these wheelboxen drive me insane
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't even imagine a world in which bits are expensive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there were 4 lines of lcd (or maybe only 2, i was a wee one at the time) and then transmitted them to the poo-snaper via fax iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my mother once wrote her articles on a 4 line typewriter-cum-puter thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes googles frantically
(trilema) ben_vulpes: frequency shit keying...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's like 80 years of decisions in this thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: computers are fascinating devices.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol decimation i have that precise url open right now already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: teletype, which...ancient transmission of text hardware?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah, i figured tty was involved but what does that first 't' stand for?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this one of those "tar" -> "tape archive" things?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on a radically different topic (if nobody minds), when miscellaneous computerboxen tell me "falling back to teletype" is that a reference to the Teletype Corporation of the thirties?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (sense of)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the "socialize the losses, privitize the gains"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean i have no clue. perhaps communism is just a thing that the us progpagandacrats came up with to point at to distract the proles from that as what was going on on the daily at home
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what distinguishes 'socialism' from 'communism'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a tidy duality.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: for the poor student - what is a real economy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with a heavy dose of "also we can handle with a fair degree of politeness anyone in your business who feels compelled to comment on the quality of our work"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: best as i can tell, my business' sole selling point is "we're not fucking retarded and won't flake on you as soon as something more shiny comes along"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll let you know if i ever figure it out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no gold's bullshit as an index due to its captivity in government vaults and its absurd inflation via notes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: now normalize it against m3 ;)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "fascist" in this context?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: us kids get down, tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ears may bleed etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: listener beware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "techno"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "klezmer"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a sample of some horrible modern klezmer techno
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/8becd406-e80b-4e13-bc29-81c6ace8f8f4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: beats antique is sort of in the genre of mention
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hue
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: on a first listen?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the gypsy dubstep fusion is about as close as it gets right now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'r also not a filthy kike
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not unexpected, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you understand black american music as sung/read/rapped?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually better question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever listened to the album in question?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i figure this is related to why i can't make any money scamming "nobody will ever fall for that!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't wrap my head around how these people would give dryuns kids jobs and not see this coming ten miles away
(trilema) ben_vulpes: landlord of record has 2? 3? kw of sound equipment for my pleasure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm now playing The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill loud enough for the bums outside the warehouse to hear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how was dryun coerced though?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell ognasty do stop in to the channel of record and explain how i'm abusing the WoT rating system.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: negrated him for pimping pirate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i got my first negrating this month guys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of fucking course bingo, the latter is black and makes better music
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hook from the latter "i guess that cunt gettin' eatin"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: OLD NOOZ, KAKO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the rules for firearm handling at us airports are pretty cut-and-dried.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's not so unbelievable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cream coulda been derpslosives tho!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all hail the benevolent socialist state of oregon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: our local state-owned booze monopoly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Oregon Liquor Control Commission
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: have ye heard tell of the OLCC?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and for mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujDoOJXtJE#t=270
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> ;;later tell vexual that's wonderful that you *can* now *may* you recommend some restaurants in syd/mel? << *would*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they bill the same for choose your own adventure degrees
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "nominally"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> it'd be a sad world if white chicks were all fucktarded, << we're all born so, and either have it beaten out of us or...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's barely a single year at a nominally high-end school
(trilema) ben_vulpes: << 50k's a pretty low bar these days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> 50k in debt, social sciences degree and a history of opining in the press is the qualification.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujDoOJXtJE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> that convinced me they were too fragile and i ended up with a 350z for a few years << how was it? >? new subies?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: allo pete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fft
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it'd be her butt and legs were she bent over
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well mpex, trilema...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i have this image of mp sitting watching trilema logs scroll by on slow days in #b-a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron is a maple syrup?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/report-dogs-eating-dead-bodies-of-ebola-victims-on-liberian-streets/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heheh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you must have an iq of less than 115 to actually pass the tests and be a cop"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've heard some great rumors on the hipster conspiracy circuit lately
(trilema) ben_vulpes: way2go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: framing retards
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHERE'S MY LULZBOUNCE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
(trilema) ben_vulpes sez "wat"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well with all this drama i should be a millionaire any day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the house might get wet though!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kazing: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2eq8gi/getutxos_a_convenient_way_to_crash_bitcoind/ck216c2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where's that from, mircea_popescu ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=instagram&src=typd << millions cry out in pain and are not yet silenced
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: "web scale"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: qui bono
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *shrug*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then later "hey did you get my message?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i grab pete's key off gribble or, you know, ask him
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i want to send an email to pete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose that makes me an uneducated barbarian
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't get the furor over key distribution
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin-core is hilariously poorly managed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty funny that 38 is still marked as draft
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd be surprised if 37 hadn't
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 61 neither?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 62 doesn't appear to have made it past draft?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 70-73 are all wallet-app stuff if i'm reading this correctly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 73 is not a btcd feature