ben_vulpes: $proxies
ben_vulpes: mod6: what's vol?
ben_vulpes: liar
ben_vulpes: ;;isitdown tumblr.com
ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> to prospective advertisers/spammers, one can no longer buy van ad on bitbet. we are back to classic rotator. << toll the bell
ben_vulpes: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/09/06/you-must-be-goddamned-kidding/ << annals of smart contract failure
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: what inspired the comment in the first place?
ben_vulpes: ;;seen mike_c
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, it is shocking, outrageous but also very amusing to see just how copy-pasted the final days us is from the peak of romania. it's almost as if instead of the romanian idiots copying teh superior us businessmen, the reverse happened. << i'd love to hear more about this
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: tatinportland: ping
ben_vulpes: le ultra expensive american cab
ben_vulpes: tat im inbound to the victory
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell thickasthieves holla
ben_vulpes: lol
ben_vulpes: such precision
ben_vulpes: disks for btc
ben_vulpes: shartups
ben_vulpes: the confirmations from outside -assets are neat too
ben_vulpes spins
ben_vulpes: capital flows by
ben_vulpes: i'm just a turbine in the breeze
ben_vulpes: > charities, yeah, and we all know how they allocate capital.
ben_vulpes: and on the flipside, i'm talking another client out of his mobile things.
ben_vulpes: where even the poverty stricken have 3 inches of pixels on which to advertise...
ben_vulpes: mind you though this whole thing only makes sense in the insanitorum
ben_vulpes: plus the odd revenue stream can come out of a piece of software like that: user data, better advertising opportunities...
ben_vulpes: not the worst deployment of capital in the world. they're not chasing lotto returns or anything.
ben_vulpes: say a stadium would rather commission a mobile thinger than print oodles of shiny paper for every game
ben_vulpes: well a practical example
ben_vulpes: but hey on the previous topic while all the cheap, easily accessed hydrocarbons have been extracted from the app store stuff, some of us are derping around in the service of large piles of capital, sinking wells here and there.
ben_vulpes: who even fractions any more
ben_vulpes: "crapshoot", i think is the term.
ben_vulpes: some lotto winners may disagree, but...
ben_vulpes: days of apps as money makers is kinda gone at this point gernika
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: total bet's the same
ben_vulpes: but user uploads is higher priority
ben_vulpes: i actually want to rip the png stuff out right this instant
ben_vulpes: no plans to, no.
ben_vulpes: a max size constraint will also be a good idea
ben_vulpes: yeah i can disallow animations.
ben_vulpes: and oh the cross browser horrors that implies
ben_vulpes: although jurov if i use svg that implies animations too
ben_vulpes: ^^ race conditions?
ben_vulpes: but that's going to have to wait for after the image stuff gets wired in.
ben_vulpes: account page will now show ads that advertisers have created, and allow them to run those ads on a specific venue. ad size will have to match venue size.
ben_vulpes: let me bounce this off you and see what you think
ben_vulpes: svg's a pretty good idea.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> "Easy to handle" compared to what? Cocaine-soaked cobras? << "crater bait"
ben_vulpes: 2 weeks, etc
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: been working on image uploads this weekend, should be live soon
ben_vulpes: my mind is reeling with permutations
ben_vulpes: oh god form validation
ben_vulpes: good drugs, eh?
ben_vulpes: sleeping bag looks like a chrysalis standing in as a smiley face, the eyes for which are the flowers
ben_vulpes: let the permanent record permanently reflect that i permanently have no btc though despite all my best efforts to the contrary
ben_vulpes: nubbins` actually inspired me on the topic, although he still does the numismatic thing
ben_vulpes: and not personally. i don't do this crazy asset dance - i just build shit and acquire btc.
ben_vulpes: (you can tab-complete my name to ping me, btw TheNewDeal)
ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: is usagi trying to get you to do biz with him?
ben_vulpes: noice
ben_vulpes: nubbins`:
ben_vulpes: is that a chrysalis at the bottom in the face?
ben_vulpes: deterrence i get, but chasing those already flown?
ben_vulpes: legislature surely will have more interesting things on their hands.
ben_vulpes: 'course, hanging here doesn't help much with that.
ben_vulpes: don't outrun bear, be a less visible target than others
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even see the point of expatriation
ben_vulpes: creating noise
ben_vulpes puts the fiat assets in lady v's name
ben_vulpes: best to own nothing
ben_vulpes: ah, i guess its > 2mil in assets or 157K+ for five years running
ben_vulpes: if one has more than several hundred thousand US there are more taxes than just the expatriation fee.
ben_vulpes: to js or to not js...
ben_vulpes: today i learned that the html date field doesn't support placeholders
ben_vulpes: http://www.live5news.com/story/26319685/cops-summerville-high-school-student-arrested-after-writing-threatening-message-on-assignment
ben_vulpes goes off to come naturally
ben_vulpes: more like an unkempt bush than any sort of a hedge
ben_vulpes: i bet that model has yet to be...modeled.
ben_vulpes: <The20YearIRCloud> And it's hard to judge when that will be, otherwise I do believe our model hedges well against USD collapse, and any major problems << good old belief in the hedge.
ben_vulpes: !t h rent
ben_vulpes: ain't none
ben_vulpes: indexing the blockchain? sed and awk!
ben_vulpes: jurov: *shrug*
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the insureds will always complain about inadequate coverage, and the insurers will always complain about social inflation.
ben_vulpes: !l m s.mpoe
ben_vulpes: !t l s.mpoe
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual lee scratch perry - what a guy.
ben_vulpes: top notch
ben_vulpes applauds
ben_vulpes: great logs tonight
ben_vulpes: evening vex
ben_vulpes: "I respectfully question how you can authoritatively champion mining code written primarily in another language entirely." << because fuck the reference implementations.
ben_vulpes: " My dislike of other mining nodes is a consequence of directly correlated forking dangers of alternative mining code, and I think we both know that." << one of these days i'm going to get left behind as reward for my courtesy of loyalty to the power rangers i can feel it coming but maybe if i complain a lot in public maybe the inevitable won't happen
ben_vulpes: "Bitcoind core itself of course mostly tried to accept both forks and let the stronger one win." << sounds like the sort of thing a "core" "dev team" should really address - maximum fork size < utxos? mhm.
ben_vulpes: forks are how bitcoin-core dies. quit burning fuel trying to prevent the inevitable.
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26h3o8/btcd_beta_announcement/chub4sp << forks are great yo quit bitching
ben_vulpes: can't be arsed. here's to the sybils!
ben_vulpes: babe calls dinner is ready
ben_vulpes: aight mes ami
ben_vulpes: plz or cunts
ben_vulpes: errywhere
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: looking good frere!
ben_vulpes: why a gc call? why there? what the ever loving fuck is the story?
ben_vulpes: un savory garnishes
ben_vulpes: i'll posit you the other scenario: bisect the codebase inserting GC calls until we find one innocuously positioned that can discredit the btcd team
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust justusranvier
ben_vulpes: this is precisely the fud.
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: user did idiot shit with code, code broke. surprise!
ben_vulpes: and van-ads.com
ben_vulpes: justusranvier: yeah, i run ch
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.001/21000000
ben_vulpes: what's a thousandth of a coin worth in three decades?
ben_vulpes: traffic is worthless. tips?
ben_vulpes: nah mostly joshin ;)
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3ebmn
ben_vulpes: hey justusranvier i see you collecting btctips off my work
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: still waiting on an explanation of http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg
ben_vulpes: phpsauce
ben_vulpes: and yet with the vim
ben_vulpes: do you mean this shit on github?
ben_vulpes: lol what the ever locing fuck
ben_vulpes: access to the conformal code
ben_vulpes: this negrating is for this set of things.
ben_vulpes: like i said
ben_vulpes: yeah well
ben_vulpes: rating ninjashogun positively for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: throwing fud at Conformal for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: shit's just mad suspicious.
ben_vulpes: all right all right!
ben_vulpes: this minus is for this set of things.
ben_vulpes: and these other minuses
ben_vulpes: it's got these pluses
ben_vulpes: well i've got my WoT over here, mkay?
ben_vulpes drums fingers angrily
ben_vulpes: they are for trustworthiness and trustworthiness only.
ben_vulpes: or "civility"
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: ratings are not for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: cannot deal
ben_vulpes: sry
ben_vulpes: !down Tao_Jones
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg << what the hell does that even mean
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: if you don't understand why this conversation belongs in #bitcoin-assets...
ben_vulpes: wow that's quite the paste
ben_vulpes: anyways, midnightmagic there is no playing nice with "core" dev "team".
ben_vulpes: shits
ben_vulpes: my
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3t55d
ben_vulpes: look at this reddit angst
ben_vulpes: oh jesus you guys
ben_vulpes: oh not actually ninjashogun
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: what is this lawsuit?
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: i did for quite some time.
ben_vulpes: pythugh
ben_vulpes: orly gribs?
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic ninjashogun
ben_vulpes: and what is this charitable thing?
ben_vulpes: you're the lone positive supporter of ninjaspamgun.
ben_vulpes: conformal is not misbehaving.
ben_vulpes: there is no playing nice with bitcoin-core.
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: is this you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3kwf4
ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3848beb16b68ec5ecee1475ddbe35c09c87cb06bfa9f07946cc58571
ben_vulpes: ;;everify if we're defending against collisions, extracting keyids doesn't help much.
ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic
ben_vulpes: gotcha.
ben_vulpes: in that there is a signature and a keyid.
ben_vulpes: but in the case of an unknown key, pgp cannot determine if a signature is valid.
ben_vulpes: can you even verify a signature without a public key?
ben_vulpes: in the former all it does is...
ben_vulpes: in the latter case it compares the known pubkey to the sig
ben_vulpes: and gpg verifies that the keyid is valid for the sig?
ben_vulpes: okay, great
ben_vulpes: hash == keyid, right? where does gpg get the hash? from the signature itself?
ben_vulpes: what is "x" in this case - hash or name + email fields?
ben_vulpes: or that the signature is valid for hash "x" but that there may be collisions?
ben_vulpes: so signed by "x" does not imply that the signature is valid?
ben_vulpes: !s ben_vulpes lol
ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: it's like "i find this amusing, even though nobody else probably does, or someone's trolling me, but it's not quite lolworthy")
ben_vulpes: hue
ben_vulpes: i have two whole beers to get through before i knock off for the long weekend i want to read more unit tests
ben_vulpes: MolokoDeck: care to share ?
ben_vulpes: gribble does sigver?
ben_vulpes: john m kerry thanks mircea_popescu !
ben_vulpes: zplzplpzlpzlpz
ben_vulpes: zlp
ben_vulpes: i'm dying here halp pl
ben_vulpes: regarding borrowing gold and refusing to pay it back?
ben_vulpes: what's the "no congress shall be held to the agreements of a previous congress" citation?
ben_vulpes: you can message gribble privately, MolokoDeck
ben_vulpes: i don't even recall the name of the suit.
ben_vulpes: does anyone have a link to the lawsuit by the guy who sued the usg for the gold they 'borrowed'?
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to that thing where coinbase straight up blocks certain addrs?
ben_vulpes: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/95927658922/coinbase-insured << but not for cold storage
ben_vulpes: i can now provision my app cannon onto arbitrary amazon accounts
ben_vulpes: i have beaten aws into submission
ben_vulpes: i guess that period's fine after all
ben_vulpes: probably the wise thing.
ben_vulpes: SHARE
ben_vulpes: show meeeee
ben_vulpes: what kind of text?
ben_vulpes: wat
ben_vulpes: they're texting photos of van?
ben_vulpes: open it open it open it
ben_vulpes: but i see where you're coming from, jurov.
ben_vulpes: twist: wherever consultant suggests hosting move, that's where hosting will move.
ben_vulpes: keep in mind this is a wp hosting company using plesk.
ben_vulpes: assume that client a has the most cash flowing through the box by 2 orders of magnitude. is hosting company b's behavior reasonable?
ben_vulpes: client brings in consultants to look at their security, and consultants ask for shell access to the server on which client sites are running. hosting company b flat declines consultants access to hardware.
ben_vulpes: there's client a, hosting company b, and consultants c
ben_vulpes: so here's an interesting interpersonal situation
ben_vulpes: hard for anyone to value properly
ben_vulpes: bitcoins now vs bitcoins later i guess
ben_vulpes: receptionist rates were too high
ben_vulpes: uh ho
ben_vulpes: ;;google fuck you i'm a dragon
ben_vulpes: world keeps moving forwards while you're playing at being a dragon, thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: i use a kindle, would like a kindle dx.
ben_vulpes: never mind pankkake. sorry to bother everyone.
ben_vulpes: oh god that's bad. "."?
ben_vulpes: dat fractal of bad design
ben_vulpes: they also emailed me my password in plaintext
ben_vulpes: <pankkake> you're not ashamed of that .php? :p << not my service
ben_vulpes: (it's a joke)
ben_vulpes: (hue)
ben_vulpes: van is a flawless crystal of tests tho
ben_vulpes: my life is a patchwork of duct tape
ben_vulpes: yeah that xml is totes broken.
ben_vulpes: i derped a feed together for cascadianhacker.com
ben_vulpes: ah hi pankkake
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
ben_vulpes: ;;late tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "it's going down it's going down like there's a whale in the boat"
ben_vulpes: who runs penguirker?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a transition in the lifecycle
ben_vulpes: quit wasting precious hydrocarbons ffs
ben_vulpes: push your meat around.
ben_vulpes: get on a bike.
ben_vulpes: these wheelboxen drive me insane