BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Really, just dropping a plaintext email address in IRC for spamzors to pick up?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "Thanks, but unfortunately it is already late in my part of the world. Perhaps send any questions via email and I'll try to respond in ~10hours (after sleep). Email: basil@reqrypt.org"
asciilifeform: 'and the the word "implant" was almost never used in security circles' << usually called 'bug' (in the 'room is bugged' sense) outside of usg
assbot: thinkst Thoughts...: If the NSA has been hacking everything, how has nobody seen them coming? ... ( http://bit.ly/1BbnTcG )
asciilifeform: the only thing it can do is add delay - and, potentially, diddle (you connect, thinking it was a node, but really this)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pseudonode << mega-lol! >> 'Otherwise, if PseudoNode can connect to at least some good nodes (default 2), then will PseudoNode will acts just like a normal node and contributes network bandwidth.' << 'contributes bandwidth' !?!?!?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what's more, this is guaranteed not to happen on the final box, because we'll actually use the 128M eeprom for the os.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you can just put a blank flash drive in the top usb port with an empty directory 'revert' and the thing boots up factory default << this is not a feature of the machine, but of the modified 'uboot' installed by the script you used.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Dunno him, thestringpuller wrote that up and sourced it
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
BingoBoingo: The point of this project is to provide a full node that has an explicit goal of supporting the needs of SPV app developers, as well as a place to try out more experimental changes in general. Through the course of 2013 I feel that the upstream Bitcoin Core project has become a relatively unpredictable place and I no longer feel sure that we can improve SPV mode or even that they will continue to support it at all. Bitcoin XT will
mircea_popescu: cazalla: more lulzy shit at http://www.canadianbusiness.com << all these biogas precursors are in for a rude awakening. at some point they'll discover that while I have the power to make something a problem by calling it a problem, they do not (any more).
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ben_vulpes mod6 http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2015/02/14/notes-on-building-bitcoin-qt-on-openbsd/ for when you get to porting maybe some notes might be useful
mircea_popescu: "It seems to be a way to extend and patch thee Bitcoin network without waiting on slow Bitcoin Core improvements."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: im gonna have to make another div payment set without a deed registrar aren't i.
BingoBoingo: Netted a small profit on the RON, and a loss on ATC when the alternative revealed it self to be potentially unbounded costs to keep the thing alive through mining
Adlai: "The latter is structured so that no withdrawals are possible at the manager’s initiative" << oh hello, this sounds familiar!
Adlai: my long-term (years/decades) plan for scalpl, assuming i don't lose interest by then, is commodities, since i'm hoping by that point "forex" becomes a quaint anachronism
Adlai already bookkeeps in btc, but he lets the bot mostly do as it sees fit, which means it travels across the entire range of all-in-btc to all-in-fiat, should the market take it there
Adlai: right, that's why it's showing up as an unrealized loss, rather than a realized gain
Adlai: one issue i'm thinking about right now is whether this is really the kind of investment mpif is after: the last two days have generated an (unrealized) loss, despite the overall portfolio valuation jumping by ~$50 per bot
BingoBoingo: Adlai: When I was enlisted it was 10% of profit from the first year and negotiable beyond that after having lived a year. Market I traded lost its trade worthiness sooner than the one year though.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2015 17:57:05; mircea_popescu: nah, first timers get a few % of the profit, and at the end of a whole year.
BingoBoingo: lol at the billboard
cazalla: so the telco here has a campaign where they will publish your texts on their billboard above one of their stores.. http://i.imgur.com/yW8gIft.jpg
cazalla: http://rt.com/usa/232219-chelsea-manning-hormone-therapy/ what a bunch of fags And from 2001 to 2011, there were 3,177 veterans diagnosed with gender identity disorder according to the Veterans Affairs Department, while overall it is estimated than one in 11,000 male babies and one in 30,000 female babies are born with the disorder, according to the Veterans Health Administration.
cazalla: more lulzy shit at http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blogs-and-comment/two-major-problems-with-bitcoin-and-how-to-solve-them/
cazalla: This, however, is very much the result of choices in the design of the system: anyone may create a bitcoin address at a whim, as long as it is unique. But the Bitcoin Foundationthe organization that has authority over the bitcoin protocolcould change that. Before creating a new address, users could be forced to authenticate with a trusted organization. This organization would securely store information about identities, and this infor
asciilifeform: to the point of utter laughability
asciilifeform: if there is evidence of usg crafting functioning but diddled parts for a mass-produced machine, slipping'em in, etc. prior to this cribbing, i for one do not know of it
mircea_popescu: the principal job of the nsa since about the 2010s is to be publicly and outrageously humiliated.
asciilifeform: (turned, that is, from traditional signal-gathering to sabotage, cribbed, yes, from ru)
asciilifeform: that is, when their present direction was decided on.
asciilifeform: the typewriter case is interesting, from a history of usg point of view, because it appears to be the turning point for nsa
asciilifeform: (sacrifice range, gain - the obvious)
asciilifeform: likewise mentioned is the fact that the bug was deliberately set to overlap with freq. of a local tv station.
asciilifeform: ^ the incident itself is quite famous, but i somehow escaped knowing that the detailed reversing of the bug was made public
asciilifeform: Vexual: one unavoidably picks up various things, like the strontium from earlier thread
mircea_popescu: (in romanian it means, literally, the dough part of a pizza or a cake)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's more or less universal in the slavic and bordering cultures, afaik. and other orcish nations (cn) have own word that is closely analogous
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: isn't it odd that engl. doesn't (afaik) have a word for блат - that other capital that u.s. economy actually runs on today, as discussed above
mircea_popescu: well this is the problem, you know ? once you decide to try nuclear detonations in your livingroom you can no longer have "fresh milk"
decimation: yeah there is no escape
mircea_popescu: ie, boa was "too big to fail" because it held a lot of mortgages of people WHO COULDNT PAY FOR THEM.
asciilifeform: that's not the news, but that they stopped doing anything else. like the illusory growth of a corpse's beard
mircea_popescu: decimation the ones who "don't" are more valuable as bezzle access. the ones who "do" really don't.
asciilifeform: (what is the 'added value' of a prepay spamcard with 'amex' logo? solely the psychological tie with 'rich')
asciilifeform: decimation: this is a pretty standard dynamic of 'leningrad siege, no coal, let's burn the sofa'
decimation: "Chief Executive Officer Ken Chenault, 63, has introduced new products aimed at younger and less-affluent customers as AmEx seeks to broaden its appeal. The lender is working with companies including Uber Technologies Inc. and Apple Inc. to expand mobile payments, and courted Americans who lack access to traditional banks with products like its Bluebird prepaid card, offered at Wal-Mart Stores Inc."
decimation: the 'meaning of money' seems to have a scale from 'tool to settle private debts' to 'note from stalin'
mircea_popescu: they're getting bought out
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Amex is fine. They partnered with Walmart for poor people ATM cards
mircea_popescu: decimation it's not even that, it's just... the *meaning* of money changes.
punkman: decimation: just the US?
decimation: yes, the us today is more-or-less dominated by centralized megabusiness
mircea_popescu: but in any case, however you explain it on the "micro" basis : competition and central control are mutually contradictory. much like anabolic and catabolic processes.
mircea_popescu: in another perspective, qe is an abdication of monetarty sovereignty. sovereignity is a fixed sum, so it just moves in other parts of the system - monopolies form.
mircea_popescu: the worst effect is that everything forms monopolies. in a physics intuitive approach, what QE does is basically increase the superficial tension. this forces bubbles to merge.
mircea_popescu: the obvious effect of "keynesian" money pumping is bubbles, but that's not the worst effect.
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2015 00:20:24; BingoBoingo: punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << For the time being... empirically. There a set with six year's worth a data to test against by syncing.
decimation: sorry for the dup
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:07:08; mircea_popescu: decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet << pretty much how that racket goes yes.
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:07:08; mircea_popescu: decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet << pretty much how that racket goes yes.
decimation: ben_vulpes: did they try to send you to jail?
decimation: asciilifeform: I think they have the nub of a good idea, having all the steps in manufacturing clearly brought out in one spot
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
decimation: thestringpuller: in VA if you are speeding 15 mph over the limit it can be considered 'wreckless'
thestringpuller: decimation: isn't there a super speeder law in VA and MD because people drive so terribly in DC?
decimation: and their non-passive even more so
decimation: yes their house passive selection is very limited
asciilifeform: it lets you fidget with the selections
asciilifeform: decimation: you have to crap in an actual project to learn the costs
decimation: yes, I couldn't find any mention of the costs of 'non-house' parts
asciilifeform: e.g., $1.50 to place each 15c resistor they refused to stock
asciilifeform: they make up the difference by nickel'n'diming the chump for the 'out of house' parts
asciilifeform: assuming the thing isn't simply a blackhole for money,
decimation: the macrolabs people
decimation: asciilifeform: if they are truly able to deliver at the prices they quote on the 'demo', it seems likely that they are 'debt funding'
asciilifeform: the nozzles (disposable, golden toilet) clog, etc.
decimation: I suspect they are using one of those 'ink jet' solder paste printers
asciilifeform: decimation: also there is no small amount of actual human labour involved in the process.
asciilifeform: decimation: the boojum lies in the nre costs, typically (largely paste stencils, but not only)
asciilifeform: decimation: -everybody- queues the jobs into conveyor-width panels.
asciilifeform: 'You can drop a mouse down a thousand-yard mine shaft; and, on arriving at the bottom, it gets a slight shock and walks away, provided that the ground is fairly soft. A rat is killed, a man is broken, a horse splashes.'
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decimation: apparently the kicad-pcb.org page is dead
decimation: pony-farts would be a fairly good way of navigating the dc traffic jams
decimation: I'm not sure how they 'make it up on volume' if they have to hand place parts on the whole thing
asciilifeform: i could live, for example, with an outfit that would crap out the board and place just the passives (then i xray the damn thing here. and place the actives personally)
decimation: supposedly the macrolabs people 'make the economics work' by queuing up all the jobs onto a giant panel
asciilifeform does not expect to find one of these things that works for any reasonable value of 'works', because the economics of it are not, to put it very gently, favourable
decimation: I guess because they can't write an http uploader that works?
decimation: asciilifeform: I find kicad amusing - when you go to download they have a little description begging not to download the 'old stable' version
asciilifeform: geda is great in every way except for being terminally buggy and the fill polygons fell apart
decimation: there's another similar vendor https://circuithub.com/ << supposedly they actually deliever
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so do mine. but at least a) i actually fuck them and b) i don't take them without a significant prior investment from other people.
asciilifeform: (for what? rng. small board, nothing secret therein. yes, motherfucker has my gerbers now)
decimation: my understanding is that you are required to manually place the parts
asciilifeform: cranked through all the parts substitutions crap
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : take the bright side of life. "not liking kids is not a valid reason to not have any - you'll be stuck with some anyway."
mircea_popescu: for that matter, if one doesn't have the culture to know that glob's a verb, the above is also "a very bad argument" .and so on.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, my "which of course is the very point" above is also "not very clear", in the sense that if one isn't particularly bright, the recursion of "what dk says is that people think they're better than they are" is not immediately glob'd into the expression.
thestringpuller: mod6: ben_vulpes it got past the wedge
mircea_popescu: your average doobie, with a mediocre college degree and an ESL culture mostly geared towards ingested summaries is perfectly unable to decode metaphor or recognise complex enough patterns and fill in the gaps. this to him is frustrating, and the frustration is predictably resolved by lashing out (hey, it's the guy fault for using rferences i have to google and math i don't grok!11). in no way better than a clinical mor
mircea_popescu: but in fact, the moderately stupid are just as handicapped understanding why they aren't smarter as very smart people are, understanding THE SAME THING (ie, why they aren't smarter).
mircea_popescu: people thinkg that effect only shows up in idiots, and so not in them. which of course is the very point.
decimation: mircea_popescu: that's a lulzy exchange. the doctor_why_bother guy is a living example of 'he misses the forest for the tiny sapling'
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing << for those blessedly uncontaminated with "c machine" constructs, it's hard to tell where the "c++" leaves off and the "boost" begins. it's clear that it's used in every for loop (c++ doesn't have iteration constructs?!), but the question if you didn't read closely enough was "why bother?" not "should one?"
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711276 << this you'll appreciate. grep for "Doctor_Why_Bother"
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ben_vulpes: well that was quite the refactor
herbijudlestoids: so far: squid, ldap, kerberos, djbdns, postfix, and today i finished setting up nginx and getting "A" score on the qualys ssl test
mircea_popescu: girl put her panties on correctly : over the garter.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids http://38.media.tumblr.com/4cc8da8a80bcc144e2b7a0a239b5e4f2/tumblr_mt63fprr6m1ssof6ro1_250.gif there you go
mircea_popescu: well, fuck the world, trilema will survive. i guess the idea being that "winners write history".
decimation: "In centuries to come, future historians looking back on the current era could be confronted by a digital desert comparable with the dark ages - the post-Roman period in Western Europe about which relatively little is known because of the scarcity of written records. "
assbot: Print out your photos or risk losing them, warns Google boss | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1AyO8IK )
decimation: mircea_popescu: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2952020/Will-21st-century-lost-history-Father-internet-warns-digital-world-lead-black-hole-knowledge.html
mircea_popescu: the web is fucking useless.
herbijudlestoids: wasnt there some command you used to be able to run..
decimation: asciilifeform: no it isn't really, how many do you think they sell? 10? 100?
Vexual: ascii that snatch sniffer might work just as well without the batteries if you get the thing close enough.
asciilifeform: big phat deal, the cost of three tow trucks.
asciilifeform: gonna guess that it works the same way my chinese 200mHz one does
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you are fond of that machine, you can download the mig25 manuals stack...
mod6: if so, then yes, you hit the bad tx, and then you need to upgrade to openssl 1.0.1g to pass over it.
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2015 15:33:22; mod6: youll know that you've hit the bad tx when you see an error in getinfo like this: "errors" : "WARNING: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."
mod6: thestringpuller: did you get the error message I told you about in getinfo? [ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2015#1017438 ]
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/25c76cb8b51370dbf92cd1254513184d/tumblr_n54bvj7uDa1tt28juo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: satellites don't run away, either
mircea_popescu: there's a monty python sketch about missile hunting mosquitoes.
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2014 00:03:19; asciilifeform: chemically-powered emp bomb is one of those weapons that really fails basic physics, for almost any scenario, but the brass can't ever fall out of love with it
asciilifeform: actually is the real limit to laser blaser.
mircea_popescu: i can't be the only one that actually fired lasers.
mircea_popescu: gtfo, do you have ANY IDEA what the air looks like around your megawatt continuous laser ?
decimation: yeah, I assumed the power would be lulzy for aircraft
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean, "the angular projection of a 10 metre target 150 km away" ?
decimation: well, I assumed that the 'electromagnetic pulse weapon Poacher One' was not mounted on the j-20 aircraft
asciilifeform: let's also assume that the sat was in leo.
herbijudlestoids: well, some of the odroids i know have a hw RNG, but i dont know how adequate it is
asciilifeform: decimation: service ceiling of the j20 is, according strictly to rumour, 18km.
decimation: herbijudlestoids: if you read the logs, you discover several explanations for why what you desire doesn't exist
asciilifeform: decimation: let's play with the satellite thing
mircea_popescu: if you can trust their closed stack turd.
asciilifeform: ^ no proper rng in any of the machines discussed here
herbijudlestoids: if its software based i could theoretically use the same device to interact with other encryption toolsets like nacl or whatever
asciilifeform: decimation: vernam (otp, xor) is trivial - mechanically or otherwise
herbijudlestoids: i mean, this device, it can handle decrypt/sign in the same way as cardano, but also add the ability for the user to write and encrypt a message with their key using the touchscreen
asciilifeform: decimation: also considered the nearly equally impractical ttl logic variant.
decimation: like the enigma & "tunny" machines
BingoBoingo: Can encrypt from anything. Decrypt and signing are the hard problems
mircea_popescu: the point of this place is cleanliness.
herbijudlestoids: the benefit of this is that you can encrypt messages too
asciilifeform: dirty if you drag it on the ground first
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: imho time spent on 0.9.x other than mining for zoological data (mutilations, fixes) is wasted << Indeed shit just doesn't work there as pete_dush discovered
mircea_popescu: decimation that'd be cvounterproductive. more like, give everything, maybe then they'll finally take out the whip.
mircea_popescu: i think it was more like the first. 6.something prolly.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho time spent on 0.9.x other than mining for zoological data (mutilations, fixes) is wasted
herbijudlestoids: 0.5.3 being the last version that -assets finds acceptable?
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: the basic idea, if i dare suggest that there is one, is a pedigreed 0.5.3 and a sequence of man-readable patches, signed by folks known to one another.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I dare you to try a makefile for 0.9.3 on FreeBSD that doesn't lean on the linux emulation layer
thestringpuller: they are still pushing that fork on some level
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: there is also a phoundation pushing crock'o'shit
mircea_popescu: there's also a scam foundation, but w/e.
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: this is the actual foundation
mircea_popescu: no, this is the nonfork foundation.
herbijudlestoids: oh, is this the fork foundation?
mircea_popescu: his name's china, and the us can't even mention what he asks of her. let alone consider what to say.
decimation: I'm sure that there were 'conditions' on the 'sale' (what do you call it when you give money to someone in exchange for impoverishing you?
mircea_popescu: decimation if you review the us foreign policy, it can't escape your notice that the us is playing exactly the role of one of the classical woman in love : will pretend like she's a priss to all comers, except there's one she will literally eat the shit from.
herbijudlestoids: yeah, being QA for the bitcoin foundation sounds fun...
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You have jails you can build variations and see if they sync
decimation: asciilifeform: it kind of surprised me that usg allowed ibm to sell their fab actually
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: In the 30GB's
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: how stupid large is the blockchain right now? a billion gigabytes?
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mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/there-is-nothing-new-in-the-world-except-for-the-history-you-didnt-know/
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: If you want to play around with the foundation's 0.5.3.1 builds on FreeBSD they'd probably welcome it
asciilifeform: decimation: the orbital nukes - do.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Toilet pays. If volume and not weight is the concern though Osmium box.
herbijudlestoids: TFW the USD spazzes out and causes bitcoin to drop from >1000 to <150
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids tons of things. qntra.net took over the business of bitcoin news. gavin has been shot in the head, foundation's over, bitcoin "development" past 0.5.x is being considered for deletion
decimation: asciilifeform: well, there are loads of silly-con valley satellite 'startups' that are launching plain arm chips into leo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who pays for launching the lead ?
asciilifeform: decimation: you can probably guess that they didn't do it because 'smart', but because eternal contracts signed, likely, five or six presidents ago
decimation: the problem with keeping things alive on bezzlars is that there's always a runt who will squeal if not on the tit
decimation: of course they are
asciilifeform: decimation: their competitors are now whining, 'we want too!111!!!11'
asciilifeform: decimation: there was a scandal that broke not long ago, where it came out that usg is single-handedly keeping a number of fabs (mostly rad-hard stuff) in business
decimation: asciilifeform: the only possibility is that usg is buying vanity products
herbijudlestoids: just like the gud old days
herbijudlestoids: im in charge of ops, but my counterpart is in charge of the dev stuff
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah and then compare to similar pile of arm chips
mircea_popescu: yeah, so what's the plan, sell to microshit for 100mn in a year or two once they decide to beef up that biz ?
asciilifeform: decimation: calculate what each unit would have to cost, approximately, for the vendor to stand any chance of breaking even
decimation: apparently they have some chip with 16 cores at 8 'threads' each
decimation: no, they claim to still be doing r&d
asciilifeform: decimation: 7000 sold/yr is not 'continued production' on the planet i live in
mircea_popescu: this is a noble goal, but a little like pron studios claiming the same.
herbijudlestoids: so there is no herbicloud
herbijudlestoids: we dont compete in the race to bottom
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, there's literally an ocean of providers of this stuff.
mircea_popescu: did your burn rate finally catch up with the funding ?
mircea_popescu: the world can rot.