(trilema) mike_c: !down birdman
(trilema) mike_c: ;;gettrust assbot RetroUpriser
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ident RetroUpriser
(trilema) mike_c: wtf
(trilema) mike_c: !down RetroUpriser
(trilema) mike_c: do you honestly think he's paying for the fking pic..
(trilema) mike_c: because that's what he's paying for, someone to go find him pron.
(trilema) mike_c: sure, go scrape some pron site and get paid.
(trilema) mike_c: why is this difficult? <http://example.com> Don't include either of the brackets..
(trilema) mike_c: hence s.nsa.
(trilema) mike_c: "good enough" is fine for a single use case. you make a website, you use certain tools to secure it, and maybe there are some theoretical holes and this is ok. but the tools themselves should be bulletproof.
(trilema) mike_c: it's perfectly profitable to sit in a starbucks and MitM even if it's not feasible to do it to the entire planet
(trilema) mike_c: it just has to cost less then the bad guy makes.
(trilema) mike_c: that making it cost anything is good enough. this is silly.
(trilema) mike_c: let's start with his basic premise is flawed.
(trilema) mike_c: but good one
(trilema) mike_c: lol, no limericking yourself!
(trilema) mike_c: second
(trilema) mike_c: lol, i knew i shoulda stayed out of it
(trilema) mike_c: ooh, benkay should be easy
(trilema) mike_c: as warren was fond of saying "a long string of big numbers times zero.."
(trilema) mike_c: results, whatever :)
(trilema) mike_c: TA trolling is too easy
(trilema) mike_c: There was once a trader called TaT / Whose charts went this way and that / He opened a leg / But the price wouldn't peg / And his profits all went kersplat
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: sure it is. it is asic-proof down to 30 meters.
(trilema) mike_c: prolly too busy working.
(trilema) mike_c: she was the only one i could think of. chetty doesn't talk much.
(trilema) mike_c: hanbot
(trilema) mike_c: only two semen jokes? i'm disappointed
(trilema) mike_c: crypto powered by co2?
(trilema) mike_c: da fuq is emission?
(trilema) mike_c: ^ investors do. havelol do not.
(trilema) mike_c: mrstickball_: srsly. getting upset over forum muppets is not worth it.
(trilema) mike_c: or, they are havelol pump/dump/crash/repeat scamsters trying to crash RENT?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ticker --last
(trilema) mike_c: selling at 597? crazy traders.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 1.34 / 0.00224382
(trilema) mike_c: you have to be HYIP (which i had to google)
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: that is for investment. and the going rate seems to be 12% a day
(trilema) mike_c: bitcoinpete is a pretty good bitcoin-assets marketer. perhaps i can convince him to write tweet about WoL ;)
(trilema) mike_c: i am far from convinced it is a good idea. but how do you get word out to lots of bitcoiners? not in the finance niche, more in the mass market.
(trilema) mike_c: i'll let you know
(trilema) mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> mike_c: the forum is.. toxic. << i thought you wanted to be there. << gross exaggeration. it is certainly not a place to go to discuss business. it is perhaps still good advertising to find customers.
(trilema) mike_c: assbot is a dictator
(trilema) mike_c: nobody likes the admin
(trilema) mike_c: not sure, but now I want to quit work and have more bahbies
(trilema) mike_c: i just lost six brain cells watching that.
(trilema) mike_c: (which I have never seen for the record)
(trilema) mike_c: idk about springer, but she's got her own show.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;google honey boo boo
(trilema) mike_c: boo boo or something?
(trilema) mike_c: that's from that trailer park kid
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: it sounds like a laser pistol that has about 10 shots left before dying.
(trilema) mike_c: meh, just ignore it.
(trilema) mike_c: no time like the present to correct that.
(trilema) mike_c: then why are you discussing your business with them on the forum?
(trilema) mike_c: this, by the way, is a direct consequence of having the wrong kind of investors.
(trilema) mike_c: oh right. they were getting their boxers in a twist because of some llc shuffling you did or something.
(trilema) mike_c: why threats? seems to me you've been running things fairly.
(trilema) mike_c: the forum is.. toxic.
(trilema) mike_c: dog died
(trilema) mike_c: a wise or lucky outcome.
(trilema) mike_c: hey, whatever happened with that outfit in some other state you were going to buy or fund or something?
(trilema) mike_c: congrats!
(trilema) mike_c: wol will probably get banned from youtube
(trilema) mike_c: sticks in your head doesn't it
(trilema) mike_c: i am curious to hear the difference
(trilema) mike_c: ah, ok. pm me a link whenever you like them.
(trilema) mike_c: ok.. i won't cancel my subscription yet
(trilema) mike_c: i thought we might be about to orphan a couple blocks, but seems not.
(trilema) mike_c: they seem caught up now.
(trilema) mike_c: but they were falling behind. i check wol blocks against a couple services to make sure i'm not falling behind. got an error that I was -2 blocks behind blockr, and verified on their homepage.
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: now so do I.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't see 874 anywhere :)
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: what? i see 312870 on their site & api, and blockchain.info is on 873
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: he's popped in a couple times looking for you. i think he's going to drop in this morning too
(trilema) mike_c: TaT, you said we were in a bull channel and were going to pop to $700. you need to buy different tea :)
(trilema) mike_c: blockr is a couple blocks back. interesting.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,stats
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell fluffypony i gave that guy your handle, he may come ask you about the job
(trilema) mike_c: ah, i do remember that post
(trilema) mike_c: lol, never saw that one
(trilema) mike_c: well, they are suing apple now right?
(trilema) mike_c: damnit
(trilema) mike_c: hopefully a big hole full of bitcoin
(trilema) mike_c: holy shit. that must be in a lot of places?
(trilema) mike_c: hah! nice.
(trilema) mike_c: lazy miners
(trilema) mike_c: ;;tslb
(trilema) mike_c: it's all about percentages. des moines goes from 10 to 11 and population increased 10%!
(trilema) mike_c: or the low end, or whatever
(trilema) mike_c: ok, i will enquire. what's the range on pay
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: i might know a student interested in that deal. you want 15 hrs or 40 hrs? cuz he wouldn't have 40.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
(trilema) mike_c: i think it was thestringpuller that was always using calc for stuff like x / 100 :)
(trilema) mike_c: although it probably wanted you to multiply by 1 in your head
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 1 * [ticker --last]
(trilema) mike_c: yes. just selling 1 btc for 0.9 btc always strikes me as nuts. i guess if you need the liquidity.
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: somebody dumped mpif to way below nav earlier today. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#769094
(trilema) mike_c: i get it now. i was like "there's a mpex undo button??"
(trilema) mike_c: yes, hence my confusion when you said you were on it :)
(trilema) mike_c: ah ah. i thought somebody was trying to back out of a trade (which is obviously silly)
(trilema) mike_c: what did jurov mean before? "jurov:mircea_popescu: looks like the F.MPIF perpetrator wants to withdraw"
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: updating hourly now.
(trilema) mike_c: it's 80% yes on a 9 month bet
(trilema) mike_c: nobody on bitbet would be dumb enough to bet on gold against btc in 5 years
(trilema) mike_c: oldest spy trick in the book
(trilema) mike_c: ah. this is a good point. chocolate is just wrong bait.
(trilema) mike_c: nice
(trilema) mike_c: your referral addy got some hits or dried up? i was confused.
(trilema) mike_c: just ask TaT
(trilema) mike_c: 1) make blog 2) slap on btcalpha bitbet referral image 3) retire
(trilema) mike_c: they don't deserve a video
(trilema) mike_c: well good luck with IPO
(trilema) mike_c: heh, including you so far :) if you're having processing problems
(trilema) mike_c: interesting. lots of fiat sales?
(trilema) mike_c: $40k on $1m?
(trilema) mike_c: mrstickball_: why such low profit margins?
(trilema) mike_c: wives work harder
(trilema) mike_c: this seems.. incredibly ambitious. you are going to manufacture & sell your own miners, and run a profitable mining farm.
(trilema) mike_c: how big?
(trilema) mike_c: mrstickball_: you have any experience running a mining farm?
(trilema) mike_c: !up mrstickball_
(trilema) mike_c: well that better not be him, you don't even trust that guy!
(trilema) mike_c: ;;gettrust the20year mrstickball
(trilema) mike_c: is he in the wot yet?
(trilema) mike_c: hey the20year. so your brother is HASH?
(trilema) mike_c: more to the point, let's discuss whether debating discussion is a good idea ;)
(trilema) mike_c: ^ not about religion.
(trilema) mike_c: religious believers will never "turn out to be wrong", so discussing is pointless
(trilema) mike_c: religious believers are not
(trilema) mike_c: more to the point, i am willing to accept that is possible
(trilema) mike_c high five
(trilema) mike_c: yes, agreed.
(trilema) mike_c: not to my point though. which is that discussing personally held viewpoints about religion is an exercise in head-to-wall banging.
(trilema) mike_c: were those not viewpoints that we personally hold? not simply ideas?
(trilema) mike_c: who is "we"? we are having a discussion about whether you can discuss things
(trilema) mike_c: holy pedantics.
(trilema) mike_c: this is different from discussing religious matters that you do not personally hold.
(trilema) mike_c: to expand: discussing differing religious viewpoints.
(trilema) mike_c: go teach danielpbarron *anything*
(trilema) mike_c: a religious scholar is entirely different from a religiuos person
(trilema) mike_c: well, perhaps love is different. with religion, nobody will accept any learning because they are too invested in their current system.
(trilema) mike_c: meh, you philosophers. why discuss if nobody learns anything and grows/changes?
(trilema) mike_c: ah, sry
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: forfeiture quote source?
(trilema) mike_c: TaT did.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm with ThickAsThieves. debating love is like debating religion. nobody is going to change their mind.
(trilema) mike_c: it's 2 of a million
(trilema) mike_c: i didn't present it as 2 of 2 choices
(trilema) mike_c: ;;google sibilance
(trilema) mike_c: sure, thanks!
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, it wasn't done with pro equipment i'm sure. but it was meant to have casual tone.
(trilema) mike_c: omg that SR auction bet is the gift that just keeps giving. daily lulz in the comments.
(trilema) mike_c: hell, you're from florida. practically a redneck
(trilema) mike_c: he can't be murican if he speaks more than 1 language
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but you are multi-lingual
(trilema) mike_c: any other muricans want to give a listen and voice an opinion it would be appreciated. this isn't a love-fest, please say if you think the accent might not work for average US speaker. https://btc.waroflife.com/videos/
(trilema) mike_c: i heard that too :)
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: yes.. moving from cron.daily to cron.hourly is on the short list. i'll just do it now.
(trilema) mike_c: oh, sweet, he made money
(trilema) mike_c: !mpif
(trilema) mike_c: had to be a fatfinger. reminder #240 to always have an order on the books.
(trilema) mike_c: !mpif
(trilema) mike_c: ThickAsThieves: vote in progress. too thick for muricans?
(trilema) mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> you presume there's a way to live your own life outside of slavery. there actually isn't.
(trilema) mike_c: who is your master?
(trilema) mike_c: you are self-selecting. worse offer to slavegirl perhaps who doesn't want to live her own life.
(trilema) mike_c: bullshit. the pool i select from is whoever I want. since I am making better offer, I get woman.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, that can change :)
(trilema) mike_c: so i marry linux!
(trilema) mike_c: poor analogy. i'm not looking for pointless barrier. this is why wife needs to be of certain quality.
(trilema) mike_c: (rm -r does)
(trilema) mike_c: and so you continue to be wrong, and no longer receive any input as to why.
(trilema) mike_c: try this. axiom (for this case): woman is right, you are wrong. who has a better chance of changing your mind/behavior? slave eventually is told to stfu and will do so.
(trilema) mike_c: obviously slave, like dog, will participate favorably at some level.
(trilema) mike_c: yes
(trilema) mike_c: hm. she cried over it.
(trilema) mike_c: yup
(trilema) mike_c: yup
(trilema) mike_c: because she is not qualified?
(trilema) mike_c: and why shouldn't she presume?
(trilema) mike_c: because she doesn't help make decisions.
(trilema) mike_c: no, it precludes the 2nd part
(trilema) mike_c: which is "better": 1) woman that does whatever you say. 2) woman that is your intellectual equal and participates favorably in your life
(trilema) mike_c: it is same as dog. you are limiting the downside, but also limiting upside.
(trilema) mike_c: you can apply those last two lines to BTC as well
(trilema) mike_c: commonly people hold fiat instead of bitcoin
(trilema) mike_c: well, i am not concerned with commonly. commonly wife & husband can't stand each other.
(trilema) mike_c: right, same with dog.
(trilema) mike_c: that is the benefit of slave, like benefit of dog. it will do what you tell it or else. child and wife have different pros & cons.
(trilema) mike_c: that is backwards. the person is the important part.
(trilema) mike_c: hell no. you only think that cuz you haven't met wife yet.
(trilema) mike_c: different, not more.
(trilema) mike_c: you don't have a wife.
(trilema) mike_c: k, check back in 3 years plz
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: how old is your wife? mid-20's?
(trilema) mike_c: she is still out there.
(trilema) mike_c: not the position of making you their slave.
(trilema) mike_c: until you meet the right woman :D
(trilema) mike_c: heh, "sure thing".
(trilema) mike_c: and i don't want a dog. different strokes.
(trilema) mike_c: that doesn't make sense. why would anyone bet on bitbet on your terms?
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: yes. and on the other hand they will never have an intelligent conversation with you.
(trilema) mike_c: it is a gamble. more upside with a good kid than a good dog.
(trilema) mike_c: why do some people get dogs? i have no fking idea.
(trilema) mike_c: you pay $500,000 to have a cute little thing that loves you for 10 years, hates you for 8, and then hopefully respects you after that.
(trilema) mike_c: they are an expense
(trilema) mike_c: kids aren't supposed to be a profitable economic activity.
(trilema) mike_c: what kill? out is easy: boarding school.
(trilema) mike_c: doesn't say much of your analysis of their gene pool :)
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: because your kids wouldn't be worth raising?
(trilema) mike_c: for everyone who is dying to know what moiety sounds like:
(trilema) mike_c: cool
(trilema) mike_c: WoW gold can't compete with bitcoin
(trilema) mike_c: wow, 5 months blows by quick. chetty, when's v0.0.5?
(trilema) mike_c: 1btc in 5 years though. that could be hefty.
(trilema) mike_c: this is not rocket science. they just took out a "mortgage" to pay for college. why would they want another one?
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: lol. good stuff.
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: google was unhelpful. what was this chocolate password scheme? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#768266
(trilema) mike_c: the world wide web is a pile of undocumented bullshit.
(trilema) mike_c: fingerprint, not fingreprint
(trilema) mike_c: adrrr_: you are bringing up a sore subject. we try not to discuss his tendency to talk in 3rd person.
(trilema) mike_c: another confused frenchman.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ident adrrr_
(trilema) mike_c: mike_c thinks you aren't making any sense.
(trilema) mike_c: what is proxybot?
(trilema) mike_c: i lol'd at this yesterday. not that they are over-reacting: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1876753.1406095852!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/front2-0723.jpg?enlarged
(trilema) mike_c: tmq often rants about gov't officials at even much lower levels with their ridiculous tax-payer funded security details fouling up things for everyone else with their special traffic treatment.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;isitdown bitcoinpete.com
(trilema) mike_c: you could spring for the $3 http://www.amazon.com/Berkshire-Hathaway-Letters-Shareholders-2012/dp/1595910778
(trilema) mike_c: like the new nick :)
(trilema) mike_c: !up fats_cd03
(trilema) mike_c: !up samO
(trilema) mike_c: the risks aren't equivalent to *you*.
(trilema) mike_c: mhm. explain this magical scenario where you avoid counterparty risk.
(trilema) mike_c: "with equivalent risk"
(trilema) mike_c: of course, you need credit default swaps for that arbitrage. and insurance on your credit default swap counterparty.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm probably the only idiot in here, but in case there is one other: "3 indicates a "pay-to-script-hash" address that contains a hash (one way fingerprint) of a script that can be used for multiple things including address obfuscation and multi-signature requirements."
(trilema) mike_c: i know, right? confidence men don't gain your confidence by not having a beer with you.
(trilema) mike_c: fuck me, that ehremum address is version 5! such futuristic
(trilema) mike_c: i am trying to figure that out right now.. i thought that was version number and we were still on 1.
(trilema) mike_c: it's coming, i swear. you can pay me for it now.
(trilema) mike_c: ThickAsThieves: lol. nice