cazalla: at least in the context of qntra and having used all time high and ath a few times before in qntra articles
mircea_popescu: obscure grunge-pop band from wisconsin, they re-release their pre 2000 songs to sound like shit. and not sort-of like shit. actually fucking shit, audibly so. you don't even have to be an opera critic with 20 different mezzo and coloratura sopranos under your belt.
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with people, bowdlerisation of everytrhing everywhere all the fucking time.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFTGfwJNmM << finally found the right fucking version.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I guess if the boys still play with Cartman, despite...
mircea_popescu: plenty of perfectly legitimately netops reasons to show the same server on multiple - and perhaps changing - ips
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> may as well run one node and give it 10,000 spam ip addrs << this is part of the problem, and why the 61 figure is an upper bound
pete_dushenski: are there non-naive node counters ? or a way to count nodes non-naively ?
asciilifeform: the joke's on naive node counters
mats: while we're on the subject, pankkake on fullnode: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ya, he didn't like the flavour of punch we were serving
pete_dushenski: tat still seems to do the twitter thing
asciilifeform: also didn't that thing appear around the same time as 'fakenode' (?) was published ?
thestringpuller: Blow up the datacenter, good bye nodes.
pete_dushenski: there's no shortage of that "in bitcoin"
assbot: Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user thestringpuller: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 8 via 6 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/kakobrekla/thestringpuller | http://w.b-a.link/user/thestringpuller
thestringpuller: !gettrust kakobrekla thestringpuller
punkman: kinda confusing to see log link without assbot spitting out the line
punkman: thestringpuller: when did assbot start ignoring your links
pete_dushenski: their site was down last i checked
pete_dushenski: a i see they're back
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller mya?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#735984 << from front page of bitcoin-tardland: "This project is completely open-source and I take 0 profit from it. Please note that there are more cost-effective ways of deploying full nodes and I mention that in the FAQs. This website is an experiment and an excersize on automatically deploying nodes when a certain balance is reached"
pete_dushenski: that'd be the one
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu it's not russian ye kook, it's the hammer and sickle sign << i meant this! комсомольская правда!
mats: not so big a deal since Windows Defender is now taking care of it, but nonetheless
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: Only the homeless would be willing to brave the snow to walk somewhere...
chetty: oh and us has lack of sidewalks too, half the time you cant walk without risking life on roadsides
assbot: Marvel's The Avengers - Clip: Helicarrier (2012) | HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18f0B9Q )
ben_vulpes: i do love the pubtrans in my socialist paradise.
asciilifeform: endogenous - from the rookeries
decimation: then if you look at maps over time, the railroads disappear roughly 1940, to be replaced with national highways
decimation: if you look at any map of the us circa 1880 or earlier all you see are railroads
asciilifeform: so not even 1700 state of the art
mircea_popescu: "most civilised country in the civilised world, has no railroads and most of demographics replenishment comes out of cosanguine marriages"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> decimation: they didn't. usa spent $maxint trying to copy, but then changed their mind when realized they have scarcely any railroads << so lulzy this.
asciilifeform: http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/02/20/fskn << ru closes their equivalent of u.s. DEA on mar 1.
asciilifeform: http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/26/barguzin << the new model is claimed to use a smaller rocket and be externally identical to a passenger car
asciilifeform: open for usg to roam freely << the rocket train was disguised (thinly) as a cargo train and went on ordinary rail
asciilifeform: there is a legend, based on released usg docs of reasonable plausibility, that usg knew where the trains were at various times by sneaking neutron counters into passenger/cargo rail
decimation: actually usa has plenty of railroads, but none of them are open for usg to roam freely
asciilifeform: so instead they went to ru after the ussr croaked and ordered these things sawed apart on camera
asciilifeform: decimation: they didn't. usa spent $maxint trying to copy, but then changed their mind when realized they have scarcely any railroads
asciilifeform: still would've bent the rails if there were not a clever system of springs to spread weight to adjacent cars
decimation: asciilifeform: I never figured out why these went out of fashion
asciilifeform: ^ can't see in this shot, but the middle car has eight axles instead of the usual four
asciilifeform: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%91%D0%96%D0%A0%D0%9A_15%D0%9F961_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%86_(2)_-_edited.jpg << the classic
asciilifeform: in one of these, it was recently claimed that БЖРК is back
mircea_popescu: he's preparing for the great progress.
jurov: i keep getting fed them via facebook
asciilifeform: same timing here. herr spitzer was defrocked, out come the rape stories
decimation: or they were disappeared from pictures right
mircea_popescu: but the timing is allimportant.
decimation: jurov: is that why the tsar sold alaska for a pittance?
ben_vulpes: re "brought down the governor", kitzhaber had one of these recently: http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-32827-gov_john_kitzhabers_office_sought_to_destroy_thous.html
mircea_popescu: the important point is that should anyone have had as much as anything at all to say about it, he'd be cutting ice in front of the lenin icebreaker
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not the important point.
asciilifeform: from the other side of the pond, it is known with some certainty that brezhnev had not only all of the racing cars he could wish for, but gurlz whenever he could still get it up
asciilifeform: and yes, everyone knows that below each spitzer there are 100,000 faceless shmucks who go home to cry in beer
thestringpuller: "Meet 'Kristen,' the 22-year-old woman who brought down the governor" << LOL so dramatic
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't see him fuck
mircea_popescu: or what, we suddenly have memory hole effect, we forgot about all the lies in filings, starting with the "confiscated btc" that never existed ?
asciilifeform: there we go.
asciilifeform: they aren't all old men
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, they pull on their own cock. what do you do with your own time ? blow much ?
asciilifeform: but - them ?
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is he going to find the wot that'll get him the 19 yo hussies that love being fucked in public ?
mircea_popescu: he only went with her for EXACTLY the same problem you were describing for yourself earlier,
decimation: heh. well, the world of official usg is quite different from the world of finance for which usg provides a krysha
asciilifeform: but what do the folks with unaccountable $maxint in bank, whose names never appear in the beobachter, do with their time ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that woman doesn't look like what the average brothel goer would consider.
mircea_popescu: it's a bureaucracy, not a fucking world. they don't have most things.
mircea_popescu: you think there exists a meta-usg that enjoys life like there exists a meta-nsa that enjoys thinking ?
asciilifeform: beheaded the day he did it? week later? or when superior ordered it for unrelated reason.
mircea_popescu: i am asserting that they're for actually powerful men (such as, russian billionaires) not for american aparatards.
decimation: mircea_popescu: are you asserting that these islands and castles don't exist? or that they are ultimately worthless baubles?
asciilifeform: not out of the question
asciilifeform: in press devoted to the subject, the lives of the kleptocrats can be seen - islands, castles, idiot 'foundations', etc
mircea_popescu: would you hire them for your gay porn studio, sight unseen ?
mircea_popescu: i have declaration at the ready : "In a statement accompanying the court filing, Mr. Dershowitz said the encounters could not have occurred for several reasons, including the one time he had visited Mr. Epsteins house in New Mexico. The house was still under construction, and Mr. Dershowitz said he had stayed for about an hour. He was accompanied, he said, by his wife and daughter and another couple."
asciilifeform: can't say that saw alive. but i also haven't seen them sitting in rags covering their gangrenous limbs in the street, begging for coin
mircea_popescu: apparently there were no hookers "anywhere in sight" and the blow was from a sandblaster.
decimation: what about 'we can raise $x bil from old men in the UAE
mircea_popescu: the only correct strategy in this situation is what the chinese did : round all the opposition up, shave their heads, parade them naked with legends.
mircea_popescu: decimation unless they come out with "poor young girls are for the fucking', it does NOT have a strategy.
assbot: Clintons’ foundation has raised nearly $2 billion — and some key questions - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1D08Del )
asciilifeform: ah then ancient sop
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you think this is other than politburo change of guard ?
decimation: asciilifeform: every time I went into the botanical garden I got terrible allergies
mircea_popescu: only funny thing to me is that the anal children (they self identify as "radical" something or the other) actually have the unmitigated audacity to challenge the old ny jew.
asciilifeform: interesting only for the jurist/procedural quirks featured
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all the drama of divource court, now for internet consumption.
asciilifeform: (interested folks - straight to the literature)
ben_vulpes: there are various and sundry privilege escalations and container escapes available, however.
asciilifeform: does the item running inside think it is on a genuine machine of its own ?
ben_vulpes: anyways, best as I can tell, the thing forgoes the entire ruby "version management" stack and installs some version of ruby.
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't know what the technical difference between VMs and containerization is.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you're familiar with the "hot" "trend" of "containerization" in the linux space?
asciilifeform: cathenone << there is a catha edulis in the u.s. national botanical garden. i saw it many times with own eyes. but, iirc, they don't have a cannabis sativa or any other 'forbidden fruit'
ben_vulpes: "the approved method of installing rvm simply causes too many issues"
asciilifeform: http://www.wsj.com/articles/alan-m-dershowitz-a-nightmare-of-false-accusation-that-could-happen-to-you-1421280860 << other side of the story
asciilifeform: decimation: much as cathenone (similar naturally occurring item) was
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much the best way to indict anything in the anglotard space is 'but it's enjoyable"
decimation: if caffeine were unknown and sudden discovered yesterday, it would be banned by the fda
asciilifeform: hence the preference for handing out sedatives and drugs with sedative side effect profile
asciilifeform: the engineering spec, not written anywhere, is 'drug must make patient less apt to complain but oughtn't be detectably pleasurable'
asciilifeform: the pyre on which these defectives have been burning more or less whole planet for 200 yrs
decimation: and yet, tomorrow millions of us inhabitants will be dispensed their placebos
asciilifeform: the entire american 'antidepressant' tech is a bizarre tour of the protestant mental pathology of 'mustn't have too much fun'
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe they read #b-a for research 'ideas'
assbot: Logged on 18-06-2014 00:36:44; asciilifeform: interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up
mircea_popescu: it's bad policy to kill people before they're completely squeezed of any possible anguish they could provide for themsleves.
mircea_popescu: only THEN.
asciilifeform: because their current job - meh
asciilifeform: whatever the fuck i say it is >> can that be wearing-zip-tie? though hydraulic chopper has its attractions
asciilifeform: 'their' job is not to explain anything, but to roll in the hookers and blow while plebes poison themselves
assbot: JAMA Network | JAMA | Interaction Between the Serotonin Transporter Gene (5-HTTLPR), Stressful Life Events, and Risk of Depression: A Meta-analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1D01pXQ )
decimation: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=184107 "Conclusion This meta-analysis yielded no evidence that the serotonin transporter genotype alone or in interaction with stressful life events is associated with an elevated risk of depression in men alone, women alone, or in both sexes combined."
mircea_popescu: the us MD crackpots are held to explain why the CDC is not going crazy over the bipolar virus yet.
mircea_popescu: sure, but the advantage of "Science" and "facts" is that, you can build on their solid footing anything you wish.
asciilifeform: the kind of optimization i'm speaking of is not libraryizable
mircea_popescu: "In 1994, there were 20,000 visits for pediatric (under age 19) bipolar disorder. In 2003, the number was... 800,000. The diagnosis, therefore, was 25/100,000 in 1994, and now it's 1000/100,000. In other words, 1% of the population. "
decimation: my understanding is that intel actually hires skilled folks from ru to hand-optimize their libraries
asciilifeform: if you actually need the x% gains from intel's fortran, or whatnot, you really ought to be doing hand asm optimizations of the bottleneck routines
asciilifeform: sorta like the argument that if there is already the usg-mandated maximum of xxx ppm of turd in your dinner, might as well go full-blown coprophagiac
asciilifeform: belongs in the side show
asciilifeform: wake me up when they say what HW_RND_GEN is.
decimation: mats: if you are on an intel cpu, that's the book to use to optimize your warez
assbot: Ask HN: What is missing in the IT security world? | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqesnK )
asciilifeform: can't recall re: the crufty one it ships with
mircea_popescu: generally, being articulate is the opposite of thinking there's such a thing as synonymy
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, articulate does not mean a vague "able to express ideas clearly and effectively in speech or writing" a la webster. what it means is, "all words used according to their definition, so that the receptor does not have to make ANY adjustments to the text to turn it into 'probable' meaning".
mircea_popescu: uh... has this usage gone out of fashion in the past five years ? i'm completely unfamiliar with it.
mircea_popescu: "Articulate" has a certain meaning, look in the dictionary; it is fairly consistent throughout all settings except one: when it is used by a white guy to describe a black guy. In that case, the word suddenly means something completely different than it ordinarily does: it means "not hung up about race." Here's the point: the black guy may actually be articulate, or not be articulate-- who knows? But white people kno
assbot: Das Fallbeil - Breif history and demonstration of the german guillotine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqbvDK )
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2015 14:13:45; *: BingoBoingo also offer that the qntra principles could likely drink any other "BTC News" venture under any table.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2015#1028816 << any other news site period. it's the goal here : make "fiat" news impossible.
mircea_popescu: it would seem that a correctly run news outlet turns more into rotten.com's library than the gawker empire of shit.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2015 14:12:37; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: this is true but misleading : in fact you know the fiats will inflate to all shit. and you know start-ups will dilute to all shit. in absolutely no proportion to "Words added" or any other sort of metric. << Scary thing is the longer this goes on and the harder we look for news, the less news words there seem to be to write in my observation. As time goes on I hope pieces like 'Your Disk
asciilifeform: were the legends a lie?!
asciilifeform: i don't see any provisions for the infamous 'chin trigger' though
mircea_popescu: you could have a replica of the piss fountain
asciilifeform: as for the hydraulic variant, who hasn't considered that.
punkman: asciilifeform: stupid movie called "The Counselor"
asciilifeform: (the scheme itself dates to ancient china, as is well known)
asciilifeform: but from where is the scene
jurov: btw, i doubt they can get more effete than today
asciilifeform: jurov: the zip tie and the effete executioner of the future are a match made in heaven. no need to watch the victim struggle, dance. zip - next.
mircea_popescu: how in the world.
mircea_popescu: check it out! jesus! orwell understands this much, but does not make the step to grasp that socialism is somethin you want when you're stupid, because you're stupid, and as your brain starts working you stop wanting it./
mircea_popescu: "Properly speaking, there is no such thing as revenge. Revenge is an act which you want to commit when you are powerless and because you are powerless: as soon as the sense of impotence is removed, the desire evaporates also."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but they botched the molding - the ratchet doesn't hold. it's almost as if someone made the injection mold dies from... an n-th generation zip tie
mircea_popescu: this is like the complaint of hairdressers about unspherical heads.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnier still. the polymer's fine (pulled it with pliers and it stood)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes punkman road goes off at 12 degrees because FUCK YOU YOU WORK FOR US so you adapt to us. not the other way around. god dang it.
ben_vulpes: nah i keep the girls away from you terrists.
ben_vulpes: when i explained to her why software as a career might be worse than working in a woodshop with limb loss risks etc, given the decades of shit and bad decisions i have to deal with on a daily basis
asciilifeform: chetty: complicated. at [censored] we got a shipment of zip ties in recently, and they break with one hand.
asciilifeform: feet optional (why did 'dancing the hempen jig' go out of fashion ?)
decimation: State. It was then we self-consciously began to relate ourselves to American Protestantism, and so patterned our public worship and viewed ourselves on that basis. "
decimation: 1880s and the LCMS took measures to keep its German heritage, such as parochial schools in the German language. Such was broadly the case until World War I, which was the most-decisive occurrence Americanizing the LCMS. It was then we could no longer deny that we were Americans, since being German in America was then disdained. It was then that the American flag began to adorn God’s house, His Church, intermingling Church and
assbot: The Americanization of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod — Shepherd of the Hills ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq8SBQ )
decimation: basically, THIS if anything is the red thread of a putative "american nation". religious obscurantism divorced from religion per se. << Christians who had other ideas quickly 'got with program' http://sothl.com/2011/03/06/the-americanization-of-the-lutheran-church-missouri-synod/ < "Even so, despite the initial Americanization that had already taken place, further inroads were held at bay as German immigration kept increasing into the
asciilifeform: sorta how current american cops use them as handcuffs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that reminds me: i've long imagined that 'in the dark future where there is only war (tm)' zip ties will be used for expedient field hangings.
mircea_popescu: this is the internet! everyone learns from it!
mircea_popescu: aha. anyway, the way back machine being still down...
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : someone came in and fixed linkrot for wikipedia without bothering to ask the "anyone can edit" powers whether they aprove.
mircea_popescu: And as it is something unusual, the usual verbs cannot be applied to it. Can the ants from the outer space be "forgiven"? No. They can be only wiped out. It is an existential issue, not a technical one. That's why your brilliant arguments won't work"
mircea_popescu: "The problem is the people cannot fit the behaviour into any customary category. It does not look like usual editor's behaviour, does not look as usual spammer's behaviour, etc. They do not know what expect from it. They still cannot stop the bot fixing the dead links. They have angst.
mircea_popescu: the wayback machine thing reminds me of one of the lulziest things ever drug up in my nets :
ben_vulpes: and the wayback machine is down
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "computers are not about hurtful things like math but more like about feelings and so the fact that there exist unevaluable statements does not worry me, but on the contrary"
ben_vulpes: a) whenever i hear "neither better nor worse" i actually parse "i cannot evaluate things and exist in a perpetual fog of 'oh iono'"
ben_vulpes: this leads to such inane babble like "oh rbenv and rvm are neither any better nor any worse than each other, they do different things differently"
ben_vulpes: i'm beginning to think that each and every ruby developer's computer is configured to work on exactly one project, and they have no idea how they made it work in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish"
asciilifeform: good enough for the romans, etc
mircea_popescu: o did they ?
asciilifeform wonders how many u.s. folk, other than historical re-enactors, know what footwraps are
ben_vulpes: somewhere deep in the stack, something insisted on saying it. same way the rest of my puns happen.
asciilifeform: (the original machine in the series was marketed as 'sheeva plug.' and ran on same 'arm' chip by 'marvell'...)
ben_vulpes: have not the shiva arms
asciilifeform: once have pogo: if you use the tftp recipe, you no longer need to wear out your nand to run these
mircea_popescu: they STILL deal with their own fear of death, just, not iun the very refined jewish manner.
asciilifeform: that is, evolutionary pressure to jettison whatever payload is no longer serving the ultimate purpose
mircea_popescu: no cause they do have a payload.
asciilifeform: iirc he compared it to certain genetically engineered bacteria that end up shedding the payload - 'why should i piss out $protein when i can be making more copies of self faster'
mircea_popescu: the only other people i know about this stupid and stupid in this manner are the sicilians, and they are fucking fixated on the holy cunt.
mircea_popescu: well, also notably without the virgin whore.
asciilifeform: 'christianity without the chris'
asciilifeform: his whole thesis was approximately this sentence
mircea_popescu: basically, THIS if anything is the red thread of a putative "american nation". religious obscurantism divorced from religion per se.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and you obviously notice that after the "god spoke to me through stones in hat" west of the early 1800 and the "god spoke to me re black people" of the mid 1800s, they moved on to "god spoke to me re rhodesia" almost seamlessly. and before that it was...
mircea_popescu: fucking bs, there's nothing novel about it, they just did to science what they had been doing all through 1800s. which apparently is, for unclear reasons, all the ycan intellectually do ?!
mircea_popescu: then people jump at the fundamentally antiscientific restructuring of science the americans did (and many places copied) after 1950 as a sort of noivel phenomena
mircea_popescu: this makes him no more a philosopher than the soviets.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only were the colonies (and then usa) the world's premier nuthouse for sectarian nutters, but the era of 'we have empty space now' promoted the 'tell'em tall tales and who's to say it didn't happen out there in the woods' mentality
mircea_popescu: kinda lends a lot of substance to a notion that usians are actually broken in the head structurally, rather than accidentally. at least the usians of the time.
mircea_popescu: he sounds exactly like a better read joseph smith. substantially the same inclination to pass counterfactuality for fact "because who's to say it didn't happen" and "it damned well serves the purpose of making my understanding of the world more palatable ot others".
mircea_popescu: http://utc.iath.virginia.edu/abolitn/abaufda8t.html << if anyone's curious to see 1845 pious fraud, here's the "great philosopher" frederick douglass making shit up.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: meatspace friends blessed me with three rare books as birthday gift "Slave to her nigger", "Temptress in the Slave Quarters", and "A Craving for Black Flesh" these people know me too well << wtf, these are books or more like photo albums ?
mircea_popescu: and if in a scored sport, say baseball or soccer, they started messing with the scoreboard, the game'd stop right then and all the players etc would just move to working teh board.
mircea_popescu: inflation economy is basically the cheapest most reliable implementation of "crabs in the pot" to human society.
mircea_popescu: chetty: [...] which makes stupid ideas like min wage even more ridiculous << there's simply no way to avoid it. it IS a stupid idea, of course, but in an inflation driven economy everyone just keeps trying to climb on everyone else.
mircea_popescu: http://www.getmagicnow.com/magic.jpg << lol that shit looks kinda like my shit. of course, i would suspect they'd choke if i put my lists through them, as i don't order pizza.
mircea_popescu: "i represent the family of a rich ferguson, mo merchant who has died in the recent troubles..."
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: and i'm pretty sure africa's heard of ferguson mo << at least the part that can read. although... it seems improbable that if they did we don't see the output.
asciilifeform: 'prove you didn't shoot the elephant'
asciilifeform: but i won't be surprised to have them exhibited at my hanging
asciilifeform: technically grandfathered
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (why piano keys - story for another day) << im pretty sure those are illegal in your jurisdiction.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: got this pavlov goin on here. saw your name pete, and subconciously refreshed tab with your blog in it. voila new article. ;) << ha.
mircea_popescu: stupidest protocol in common use since the bretton woods agreements