thestringpuller: mats: actually asians were a majority at the school I went to.
BingoBoingo: mats: You know you could have cheated and taken the GRE instead
BingoBoingo: Well, the black test score bump can be explained entirely by the need to fill a competitive handegg team
decimation: https://web.archive.org/web/20110727142404/http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2010/07/how_diversity_punishes_asians.html " On an "other things equal basis," where adjustments are made for a variety of background factors, being Hispanic conferred an admissions boost over being white (for those who applied in 1997) equivalent to 130 SAT points (out of 1600), while being black rather than white conferred a 310 SAT point advantage.
BingoBoingo didn't bother with reach schools, went to desperate schools that needed outliers
decimation: asking your real estate agent if there are "section 8" renters is considered to be 'racist'
decimation: look at the list of 'danger words' on that 'fair housing law' that real estate agents must follow
BingoBoingo: mats: Wicked tan, roll your r's, and become one with the lawn mower
decimation: in theory 'welfare' is colorblind, but in practice it is meant for particular minorities
thestringpuller: decimation: so in theory welfare is racist to asian people.
BingoBoingo: mats: Watch telenovas, pick up the accent, and you can prolly pass as a more obscure flavor of hispanic
decimation: mats: unfortunately being asian puts you at the bottom of every welfare list
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BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Nicotine is neuro protective against certain kinds of wetware failure modes
asciilifeform: the history of never having worked is a plus (though davis worked just once, iirc)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome << Who knows, if it wasn't for glorious tobacco maybe I'd be on that golden ticket
decimation: I'm sure you would need several signed and stamped notes from the 'mental health' chumpatron
asciilifeform: the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome
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mircea_popescu: last time i was in an access controlled building they had to provide an intern to run behind me holding my fucking card.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: what they are paid for << not to riot, is my perception
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, i don't even wear those idiotic card things.
mircea_popescu: so these total fuckwits imagine they asked a powerful person to... write on their own fucking forehead ?
mircea_popescu: ok this is the lulziest thing i read al lweek!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...but a leech ? a leech is a revolutionary. << usg welfare folks aren't leeches, they're employees. (what're they paid for? ask tlp.)
decimation: plus if you have any history of working at all, you are not gonna make the SSDI
decimation: danielpbarron: yeah it would take a good year or two of concerted effort to con/harass the appropriate 'social workers' into giving you what you want
asciilifeform: to let people pick the density of welfare cases in their area << they already can! (price)
BingoBoingo: decimation: As TLp notes there are gradients of SSDI and SSI
decimation: I think asciilifeform said that the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket
decimation: the trifecta is social security disability. If you can prove that you are 'unable to work', you will be able to collect social security too
decimation: to get the 'whole package', you are going to need to be a minority more than likely
decimation: danielpbarron: well, simply making less than the amount required for the earned income tax credit gives you free money from the irs http://www.irs.gov/uac/Check-Your-Eligibility-for-the-Earned-Income-Tax-Credit
decimation: re: fiat heros < ron paul agrees: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/23/the-washington-post-s-gross-mischaracterization-of-ron-paul-s-message/ “Sanity will not return to US leaders until our financial system collapses — an event for which they are feverishly working,” and “Before we can actually restore our liberties, we most likely will have to become a lot less free and much poorer.”
decimation: there is a large component of america (in the upper classes) that still has a belief that those dollars in their accounts are 'theirs' (in the 'sovereign citizen' sense)
mircea_popescu: they're his now.
mircea_popescu: in any case it's not "your" tax dollars. it's obama's. he already stole them from you.
decimation: well, if you think the government is an enemy and confiscates your stuff, what do you think about the guy who is wallowing in the proceeds?
mircea_popescu: which is really not the fault of poor/lazy/stupid people
mircea_popescu: decimation perhaps the delusion here is that the fucking govt is an enemy not an alter ego ?
mircea_popescu: well but see ? russian guy comes into play. "why the fuck wouldn't i take money if i can get away with it ? and why aren't you fucking cheering me for it!"
ben_vulpes: it's not you, it's the americans.
ben_vulpes: to poke the bear?
mircea_popescu: i imagine a better question would be to ask why the fuck does this matter.
BingoBoingo: There's no master list
BingoBoingo: decimation: The problem is separation
decimation: if pressed, I'm sure the bureaucracy would bleat that it needs to protect the 'privacy' of the recipient
decimation: in fact, it's illegal for a real estate agent in the us to tell you how many welfare cases live on a street
decimation: asciilifeform: if you drill, you find that the bureaucracy that disburses these payments is extremely jealous about releasing exact details
asciilifeform: decimation: in general there's nothing secret about who they are - you can mostly tell by street address
decimation: if I were president, the first order I would make would be to released the list of everyone who receives money from the list above
decimation: re: living wage < in the us, if you sum up everyone on section 8 rent subsidy, medicaid, medicare, social security, mortgage deduction and then us mil, us civil service, you probably have swedish level 'welfare'
mircea_popescu: be part of the red party.
asciilifeform: how's that work - what did they actually -do-
mircea_popescu: well, they released adrian nastase
asciilifeform: anyone actually sitting for this at the moment ?
asciilifeform: (see the u.s. 'college racket' etc)
asciilifeform: the 'living wage' thing is much closer to things that actually happen, because pumping staight from treasury to rentiers (who jack prices immediately on anything subsidized) is apparently a-ok
mircea_popescu: nor did any of the guys end up in prison
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the 20k thing ever actually happen ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker. << No guarentee roommate would be adult thinker
mircea_popescu: in other news, finally discovered the reason contemporary muzak sucks so bad. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln598igfTB1qa258ao1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: getting to do it while someone else pays for it - not just the roof and food, but the "whose fault it is!" is ideal.
mircea_popescu: some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker.
asciilifeform: very few people would enjoy actually eating the horse
asciilifeform: at any rate, the 'eat a horse' effect is at work
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gotta get really lucky in usa to go straight to supermax << Illinois closed its onlu supermax at Tamms not long ago. Now there is only Noisemax unless you go federal
asciilifeform: (usg term for the classic dungeon where you get to sit alone)
mircea_popescu: and then... well... you can sleep.
mircea_popescu: so they put you in this place, which is fundamentally quiet. you can't be disturbed.
mircea_popescu: a while back i ran a "what'd you do with 100k euro" thing on my blog (because some fucktarded populists were "promoting a law" to give every schmuck 20k - romanians don't want living wages, they want universal windfalls)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's exactly one rape there, and it comes out of a political struggle. << Is rape ever anything other than politics?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make this easier to approach, i would propose the situation depicted in american history x is perhaps the best summary of the situation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is not (yet!) an industry in usa devoted to helping pigs slaughter farmers
mircea_popescu: i never heard of a farmer not milking his cows because "they broke down", or not slaugthering the pigs etc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> most people don't bother fucking their wives. why'd they bother with some random dude. << Prolly so random dude doesn't fuck them. WHy do dogs sniff assholes
mircea_popescu: you can live a whole life w/o running into either just fine.
asciilifeform: afaik this normally happens because the wife breaks down
mircea_popescu: most people don't bother fucking their wives. why'd they bother with some random dude.
asciilifeform: pet could quite likely walk until its legs give out, without finding the fact
mircea_popescu: but it's fine, send the pet out on a fact finding expedition.
asciilifeform on typical day doesn't see any women other than one kept as pet
asciilifeform would have to leave the bubble dome to do mircea_popescu's suggested experiment
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stop the first woman over 30 you see, ask her if she had sex today.
BingoBoingo: I don't have children so would like to avoid prison and buggery. Still my survival strategy would consist largely of join the first white power gang that comes knocking.
mircea_popescu: most people don't bother fucking their wives, why do you imagine they'd bother with some dude.
BingoBoingo: I've heard reports that county jail isnt so bad, worst part is the stigma from people on the outside
mircea_popescu: god forbid you misbehave. they may jail you!
mircea_popescu: "No matter how many episodes of Orange Is the New Black youve binge-watched, the experience of life behind bars is basically unfathomable to those of us who have only ever known freedom."
mircea_popescu: why not ? bad for the economy.
mircea_popescu: do they have pay per view in prison yet ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seems to from what I can find on the subject.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is it like the "baby delivery" school, in that it involves "all family members" for maximal bezzletronicity ?
mircea_popescu: does it go "kill someone on your first day, the flimsier reason the better, the more blood the better" ?
BingoBoingo: "Kerness says she sends the manual to anyone who writes to her organization asking for one. Until recently she had no trouble getting the materials into peoples hands, but recently, she says she has started receiving pushback from some facilities."
asciilifeform doesn't have the link handy
asciilifeform: as in, expensive 'academies' where... something or other.. is taught
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzier still, there are -schools- for 'white collar' derps who are expecting prison
mircea_popescu: pretty soon derps in prison so numerous actual prisoners are too wtf'd at these idiots running around dreaming a little dream they just hang themselves ?
mircea_popescu: they're going to have a dating/selfhelp for this, too ?
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mircea_popescu: some idiots somewhere put pen to paper cca 1700 to communicate the idea that "if only we made the children of the scum literate the word would be a paradise"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And in every "about" derp they mention the "better world" being governance via reddit and tumblr ethics
mircea_popescu: but what that does is... it takes them out of sample.
asciilifeform: nor any of the people i associate with voluntarily in meatspace, really
asciilifeform: nor was the woman
asciilifeform: but the folks i work with weren't raised by tv.
mircea_popescu: not how this works. biological samples are either uniformly infected or not infected.
mircea_popescu: baby boomers checked out of society, their kids were raised by the tv set, the result is the current usg.
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/05/cookie_monster_becomes_aware.html << actually tlp has excellent working theory on 'what happened'.
asciilifeform: should've noticed the earmuffs
asciilifeform: i was still thinking about the wave detector!
mircea_popescu: in the gif. is what you meant ?
asciilifeform secretly imagines the opposite of this firm
BingoBoingo: Mega lol, where's the robot's Mosin?
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BingoBoingo: And since we are bringing up the hometown behold the drive Federalis made to visit, note the major city very close to the destination https://maps.google.com/maps?q=peoria+illinois+highland+illinois&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=1tbrVNKsHMKmNqeWg_AH&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&output=classic&dg=brw
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or, more specifically, what is the flying object
asciilifeform: in addition to the classical horns
BingoBoingo: Common arrangement in the Middle West
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: We have a big microwave tower on the north side of town
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there are horns where you live ?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but The towers around here tend to have more horns and more tower for mounting horns
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu is not the only one who wasn't impressed
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Definitely a particularly interesting site. Microwave tower is rather thin on antennas so facility must have had other serious justification
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: according to the historical docs, the sites in question were rated for particular 'overpressures' - and some were 'graded down' upon inspection after constructed
mircea_popescu: i'm not terribly impressed with the depicted blastdoors, but anyway
asciilifeform out of date on the subject
asciilifeform: found that site by sheer accident, while idly looking for what's commercial state of the art in shock wave detectors
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: private 'gtfo' arrangements are the new racket
BingoBoingo: Well, private bunkers are the new racket
asciilifeform: and afaik nobody cancelled bunkers, but the 'golden age of usg' gigantomania is gone.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I find the historical bunker bezzel fascinating. Especially with the missile sites that were getting outdated and replaced within 5 years. The ATT bunkers though... some nice real estate
mircea_popescu: i wonder what they think "nuclear hardened" means.
asciilifeform: otherwise not at all.
ben_vulpes: i generally know the thing needs plugging in but frequently find myself unable to line up the right pins with the right sockets
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BingoBoingo: plonky: It takes time to get to know what advice might be useful as opposed to being noise, that's what the reading is for.
ascii_field: (the archturd)
mircea_popescu: plonky looky, the question here is whether you can be useful not whether he needs some advice.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field about the same as an unladden swallow
ascii_field: plonky: the one thing definitely known is that the bug is specific to this one particular marvell soc
ascii_field: anyone's guess if he has the time, inclination, or this particular piece of hardware to even try
plonky: can bring the official dev support
plonky: i mean, sending email to the right mailing list explaining your problem
ascii_field: and on second thought we don't have a 88sx7042 either
plonky: and what does the netbsd guy say ?
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live << what was the detonation velocity ?
ascii_field: will have to build and run the damn thing to be sure
plonky: ascii_field: ok look at my url, it point to the kernel config of kirkwood release !
ascii_field: but specific system-on-chip that has all the peripherals
ascii_field: plonky, others: it isn't just a question of 'which arm'
ascii_field: but where's the source
ascii_field: http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-kirkwood-latest.tar.gz << is probably the binary
ascii_field: plonky: do you know for certain that this is the very same arch as was published (see log) for use on 'pogo' ?
plonky: with all the patch included to kernel compilation in archlinux
plonky: this one is the answer
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mircea_popescu: did the mystery bit ever get resolved ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while << actually, we - or, rather me - have been trying to get it -off- arch
fluffypony: (once the string has been decrypted I mean)
fluffypony: how do I verify the rating?
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assbot: /hashtag/blockchains?src=hash are a friggin database technology; 5 years down I doubt any users will care what the underlying network token is
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 19:29:52; ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm)
plonky: and few commint on other topic
plonky: in the security team :)
plonky: you can find me on the archwiki
plonky: so pretty useless at the moment !
mircea_popescu: mike_c turns out they did last year. thanks!
mircea_popescu: never heard that being ruled on so i just asumed they dropped it.
plonky: seems the fingerprint of my key isnt satisfying assbot
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mike_c: mircea_popescu: re your asshole post. I believe GOOG split in the meantime..
ascii_field: ty thestringpuller!
mircea_popescu: i have the fucking freedom to do it, and im dying with it.
chetty: And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her// the root of much evil in this world
mircea_popescu: wayne well not everyone joins at the same time.
mircea_popescu: yes, they're both not. hasn't yet happened on god's green earth tho.
mircea_popescu: in dudeland anger is accepted explanation, fear is not. in broadland, the reverse.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact you can readily distinguish the male dominated society from the female dominated society, because they each succumb to their own foibles.
mircea_popescu: apud Ballas : "I know, I know, she's only 15-- terrified, Stockholm Syndrome, etc. And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her, I didn't live her life. Though that brings us back to the black teen: why is fear an acceptable explanation for poor judgment, but anger is not? (Hint: they're both not.)"
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, anyone still remember the elizabeth smart thing ? "kidnapped" 14yo utah blondie goes to party with "kidnappers" etc ?
chetty: don't worry if you miss a day, someone will point it out (happens to me all the time)
wayne: bit, rather
wayne: what is this channel for? general btc discussion? the website is a big ambiguous.
ascii_field: they still get paid
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really << check it out, usg trying to steal b-a.
wayne: thanks for the +v
jurov: cryptome is down.. are we the new slashdot?
NewLiberty: 'Jeh C. Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, said that it was “indulging in a fantasy to believe you can shut down the Department of Homeland Security and there be no impact to homeland security itself.”' Sure it might become more secure when the security theater show ends and people start taking personal responsibility.
ascii_field: jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: But in fiat land with monthly bill payments, even a delay can be catastrophic to the stooge
ascii_field: the whole 'shutdown' circus is wholly for show.
ascii_field: The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really
ascii_field: (the one on pogo's www)
ascii_field: the original marvell-patched kernel mod is mega-gnarly
ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm)
ascii_field: there's some magic init trick
ascii_field: at 'hackernews' hand-twiddling the story ratings and outright burial ordered from above has been sop since day one. but the reddit cesspool has generally been left alone (other than by armies of muppets, electric and meat alike) until recently.
mircea_popescu: i just want a functional reference point tree for when this topic is discussed in future. currently, my go-to link for "reddit manipulation" is either the trilema or the qntrea article. it's beneficial if they somewhere (like in comments) have a link to a later case they didn't substantially cover
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2wve7e/the_superfish_funder_list/coup87o
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i meant http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/ and http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/