pete_dushenski: while the private ceo's might be, the average gov emplyee is better paid and works less than the private contractor
mircea_popescu: that's not the problem.
pete_dushenski: they imagine that private contractors, who charge millions of dollars for various and sundry services, are making mad bank
mircea_popescu: well they ARE doing a great job at fucking shit up
pete_dushenski: the lulzy thing about federal, and other gov employees, is that they think they're underpaid!
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 16:36:29; asciilifeform: -somebody-'s been reading the logs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2015#1031922 << this is fucking insane. "federal employees are not overpaid because federal govt is a business except it's not a business, and other businesses that are businesses skew the business average data!!!! federal employees are not overpaid by comparison to federal employees, in fact thjere's a perfect 1:1 correspondence"
mircea_popescu: "we're in the business of fucking shit up!"
mircea_popescu: "In any business, including the Federal Government" << check it out ?! it's a business now ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2015#1031908 << very desirable, as shown by the infantile giggling reaction to even a faint whiff.
mircea_popescu: i never saw the tsa, somehow.
pete_dushenski: 'real clothes' ? wtf is that ? were they suspicious of the gypsy with money braided in his fro ?
mircea_popescu: honestly, it looked more like a private concern of the guy's.
mircea_popescu: i guess this qualifies in the same line. but at least it was fucking customs, not the airline.
mircea_popescu: a decade or w/e ago i last visited the us, they wanted to know if i have any real clothes.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 15:34:42; BingoBoingo: So... Team hilary is really etting a head start on the primary season http://www.dorkly.com/post/72803/is-joe-biden-too-touchy-feely-with-anime-school-girl-constituents
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2015#1031906 << wtf nation of fucking otakus over there or what ?! it's like the 5th grade, "o may gawd he grabbed her butt!!" of fucking course he did. what did you think it's for ?
pete_dushenski: el-al at least sticks to 'oh so you were on kibbutz for 2 months, what's the hebrew word for milk ?'
mircea_popescu: the dumb newsweek goon that "discovered" satoshi
mircea_popescu: or else you have partially unmonetized cool, and then there's different cools vying. like, las vegas is the cool for people like liz blakely. however, san diego is the cool for people like leah mcfuckface, what's her name
mircea_popescu: problem is, it's like money : either you have fully monetized cool, and then it's cool and that's that, suck it.
pete_dushenski: in the sense that cool is relative, vegas, for all its abhorrence, is still cooler than whatever else there is
mircea_popescu: because hey, why should you get blamed for doing something stupid ? force others to do it for you!
mircea_popescu: http://hwcdn.net/t3r3e5a7/cds/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/240215tsa1.jpg << in other news... tsa now outsourcing their idiocy to airlines.
mircea_popescu: not really, not anymore. not since hughes bought the cool people out.
pete_dushenski: in that sense, it's really only vegas that strikes me as a cool place on the continent
mircea_popescu: ladies that take "drawing out" are the anticool.
pete_dushenski: it's endlessly sprawling and full of self-important consumers, but the stampede draws out the ladies
mircea_popescu: i don't think it ever reached the level. i mean it's been trying, ever since the 80s winter games etc. but...
pete_dushenski: so you'd want to visit nyc then
mircea_popescu: any cool people among them ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'll blithely respond by gesturing to all the people in my life who came here by chance and never left again 8)
mircea_popescu: generally, it's the "bare cunts dancing" district that makes or breaks a city's cool.
pete_dushenski: ok so 'the place' isn't uni ? what is it ?
pete_dushenski: this seems to accomplish the objective of keeping an inflated population off the streets and little more
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how did you get the idea twodogs is cool as in, someone'd want to move there as a thing to do, rather than "whatever, they are giving out money here"
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 13:24:00; jurov: now i am interested at the exact tradeoff factor "X% faster" vs. "crashes in 1 of Y cases" under which our civilization operates
mircea_popescu: otherwise... whatever, anonimity is hard.
mircea_popescu: have "toss the feminist" festivals, people (that aren't retards) may wanna come.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the only thing that can work is making the place be cool. merely "not suck" is not good enough.
nubbins`: the school system is a pretty big barrier to entry
nubbins`: in other news, the whole "we have oil, let's spend money" thing has given way to "the price of oil is out of our hands, let's aww fuck it's too late"
pete_dushenski: nubbins` ya well administration after graduation is very much closing the barn doors after the horses have left
pete_dushenski: nubbins` outmigration out of maritimes or out of the country ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is kind-of how it worked in all teh warsaw pact. except back then people actually had nothing better to do with their time, (LIKE IN A PRISON, ALF!) so they studied.
punkman: if you get in, it's all free. might have to pay for some books these days
punkman: there are grade requirements for entry into uni, based on demand
mircea_popescu: heh. greece, the least rich eu country, adheres to nubbins` ideals!
punkman: no there are grades
mircea_popescu: this is exactly like suicide : the people who succeed we want. the people who fail should have succeeded.
mircea_popescu: why do you want them ?
mircea_popescu: all the schmucks that can't leave.
nubbins`: instead, it's the same cost it is *now*, except the government would pay the minimum monthlies on your student loans for as long as you remain in (the province, city, state, w/e)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, things that exist because thery're beautiful may get a pass.
mircea_popescu: because the only reason it exists is that it's useful. if useful can't pay useful can go hang.
nubbins`: because if there wasn't a catch, it'd just be a boondoggle
mircea_popescu: the way to do that is forbid louts from having sex.
mircea_popescu: same reason women don't have to pay to go to a club, especially if they go naked.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` generally you don't have to pay if you're very very good. at least the ones i'm familiar with.
nubbins`: anyone happen to have familiarity with zero-tuition universities, specifically euro ones, specifically how they came to ditch tuition?
pete_dushenski: ^ the one i was thinking of
pete_dushenski: i seem to recall there being a trilema on spam filtering
mircea_popescu: (what the bots do these days is crib facebook for textual content, hack it together and use it as spam filler to fool bayesian filters. which are STILL a stupid fucking idea)
pete_dushenski: "Erik is a famous individual of the Bitcoin community online forum (screen title- evoorhees), as well as presently benefits Coinapult, derived in Panama." << lulziest spam comment i ever did see
pete_dushenski: i just noticed that each article in the feed was set to show "full text"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe like thestringpuller's it is missing a field?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Probably the best way to solve this problem is to look at how blogs that play nice with scoopbot do RSS and crib off of that
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl who do i have to blow to get contravex and scoopbot talking to each other ?
mircea_popescu: he played the most fucktarded names too. deke. vince. etc
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> he has all the sexual projection of a highschool retard. << "non-threatening" 1950's USia was retarded in this way
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i may be like, the first owner in human slavery history to actually discourage drug use by teh chattel.
mircea_popescu: he has all the sexual projection of a highschool retard.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> elvis was dumb as rocks, if reports are to be trusted. << And drugged all to hell. Owner screwed the pooch on that one.
nubbins`: i recall seeing one of the flicks at some god-awful "grand ole" type place in the southern usa
nubbins`: no kidding. ever see the dude's movies?
nubbins`: now there's an american name
nubbins`: guy was taking half by the end, wasn't he?
mircea_popescu: colonel Tom Parker. there we go.
nubbins`: they all were
mircea_popescu: no, fuck wrong one. who the fuck was his owner ?
mircea_popescu googled it. turns out the man's name was Marvel Jr.
nubbins`: you think elvis would be the fuckin king if he was born in 1996?
nubbins`: things were more novel back then, too
mircea_popescu: some of them 40+yo.
mircea_popescu: there were more women, is fo sho. lotta girlies today.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: No, there were more men
mircea_popescu: well that may be. there were certainly less retards chasing the "Social media" dragon.
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter, being times man of the year in 1966 vs being times man of the year in 2006.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the difference between being a star in hollywood cca 1955 vs being "a star"/waitress in a la diner today.
thestringpuller: facebook wants to be the new gatekeeper
mircea_popescu: which both shows the absolute loss of gatekeeper power on one hand and the massive decrapification of the software on the other.
mircea_popescu: but people readily ignore this fact. normal traffic ? x ; being linked by all the internet ? a*x. being ddosed ? b*x.
mircea_popescu: not anymore. the ddos back in sept was what, 100 to 1k x more visible in server logs.
mircea_popescu: so ridoinculous btw. there was a time, 10-15 years ago, when something like this would have taken a site down.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron btw, there should be NO references. all text referenced by url should be quoted in the instructions, and link to original.
mircea_popescu: mike_c the name&shame of vcs that did superfish was on slashdot etc
mike_c: logs are failing me. what was the big hit on qntra?
BingoBoingo guess bump was going to be between 2k and 30k, hit the exact middle
nubbins`: but seriously though, i don't think we should have merged the foundation tax thing into the code
nubbins`: if that doesn't encourage log readers to actually read and absorb the fuckin patches
asciilifeform: no mention of diddled clients in the linked piece
thestringpuller: getting a bitcoin client to deploy a payload kept on the blockchain would be a frightening event...
asciilifeform: -somebody-'s been reading the logs.
asciilifeform: decentralized-malware-on-the-blockchain << lol, yeah, turdware loader wants to wait 3 wks and sift through 40GB to fire 2nd stage payload, sure.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla See the traffic spike yesterday was the exact middle of my predicted range https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
assbot: Officials say 19 manatees trapped in a Florida drainage system have been rescued, and others escaped on their own. http://t.co/EQAkrPOFql
mats: <plonky> the most wtf of today decentralized-malware-on-the-blockchain << http://www.scribd.com/doc/250009335/A-Novel-Approach-for-Computer-Worm-Control-Using-Decentralized-Data-Structures
jurov: when they're jumping, something gotta swing
ben_vulpes: <plonky> [] the most wtf of today http://presschain.com/decentralized-malware-on-the-blockchain/ << don't use bitcoin it's dangewous!
assbot: Joe Biden's Definitely Making These Anime School Girls Uncomfortable - Dorkly Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1D7Ho1i )
BingoBoingo: So... Team hilary is really etting a head start on the primary season http://www.dorkly.com/post/72803/is-joe-biden-too-touchy-feely-with-anime-school-girl-constituents
BingoBoingo: Where in the code is prolly going to depends on the version, but sync.cpp might be a place to start
PeterL: when downloading the blockchain, does the program ask for each block individually, or does it just ask for a starting block and the other node feeds it everything from that point forward?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I'm telling you that is the appcoin scam that will undoo coinfire
jurov: as in, aliens land, gather this number and "nah, too big risk, let's move on"
jurov: now i am interested at the exact tradeoff factor "X% faster" vs. "crashes in 1 of Y cases" under which our civilization operates
jurov: ^ when anyone wants to complicate an algorithm for performance, hit them with this
cazalla: BingoBoingo, you'll love this.. from that getgems app you always talk about :P "So far our app was installed by 2,284 users and an average rating of 4.5 in the play store."
plonky: soon pedopornography cyphered in the blockchain
assbot: Pakistanis face a deadline: Surrender fingerprints or give up cellphone - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1JGEvh6 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the rod is milk-white and very smooth, slippery.
BingoBoingo: They try
asciilifeform the most teflon ever saw is a 1x10 inch rod in his machine room
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Top side of the clamshell grill
asciilifeform: where was the teflon ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the kind with the clamps << /me usually solders by plumbing rules. More checks less death by inferno
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to steal from ed felton, 'you can't build a safe that is to be kept in the robber's living room' - except that some folks must anyway, so they craft safes that will set fire to the money at slightest provocation << Shoot for Tepco can not cut without fine
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so your welding really consists of owning the dc. << Ideallu solder and powersupply is chozen such that yes
asciilifeform: to steal from ed felton, 'you can't build a safe that is to be kept in the robber's living room' - except that some folks must anyway, so they craft safes that will set fire to the money at slightest provocation
mircea_popescu: so your welding really consists of owning the dc.
asciilifeform: at any rate, only the lucky fellas like mircea_popescu earn the honour of having a mook sent to physically wriggle inside chassis
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (so long as it isn't messily done on the premises, i suppose) << If was taking torch to pren]mises would have lance of great concrete cutting
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They don't. Still stl isn't asking 4 digits
asciilifeform: (so long as it isn't messily done on the premises, i suppose)
mircea_popescu: but the general rule of fist is, "nothing manmade can resist arbitrary pounding"
BingoBoingo: Tortise shel makes the best ornamentation. Also gets sharp once club is used
mircea_popescu: they appear so, to men without good clubs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what kind of blood do you think to get from the stone ?
mircea_popescu: then it's fascianting.
mircea_popescu: well, none of these things matter to the layman until they observe another monkey fashion a club out of it and blooding some faces
asciilifeform always cared about the details of dmca in much the same way as he cares about the precise voltage of the electric chair he will sizzle in: not particularly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: also does dmca really have the provision for 'complainant must sue before date x'? (ianal!) << yes. this is what dmca is substantially : dc gets a claim. if customer responds with counterclaim, they forward it to claimant, who has 10 days to show proof they sued.
mircea_popescu: "i didn't know they stacked shit that high"
mircea_popescu: class action, the works.
mircea_popescu: so... we're in settlement talks. which, should they break down, we'll be in court.
mircea_popescu: they claimed that it's not properly drawn up. meanwhile i discovered that the dc in question (worth ~1.7mn) is actually owned by the same holding company that owns ccbill, which is a "high risk" cc payment processor, which has a business relationship with fetlife.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^ where this was even for ? isp ? << well, turns out the datacenter (phoenix nap) refused to forward the counter-notification.
mircea_popescu: pretty good indication of the principle that propaganda works both ways.
mircea_popescu: "Becks astounding comments about the Obama regime appear to have merit as Londons Daily Mail is reporting today"
mircea_popescu: So bad have things become in the United States that one of their top right-wing commentators named Glenn Beck warned his listeners this week that the Obama regime was turning America into a Nazi-like Third Reich and leading the US into a society of gas chambers.
asciilifeform: 'The only exception is a plan for more extensive practicing of security response tactics at launch silos, a move that requires signed agreements with owners of the private land on which the missile silos are situated.'
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: this has made me wonder how much "book value" of these big shops is similarly inflated. << from the recovery practice, one would not usually expect more than about 1% of book value to be recoverable through asset sales.
mircea_popescu: the dodo bird makes great quarry.
mircea_popescu: mats: the subconscious domination of a white woman that is << wait, you her or her you ? dat ambiguity
mircea_popescu: decimation: mats: unfortunately being asian puts you at the bottom of every welfare list << yeh azns took ur jerbz.
asciilifeform: 'We still have a saying, though, when we saw the Soviets building a copy of the Air Craft Carrier Enterprise, right down to the nuts and bolts
if you lose a document, just go to the Soviets. They have copies of all of it. Our security meant absolutely NOTHING.'
asciilifeform: oser distance between two points than a rectangular or square pattern. That still doesnt help you find a star efficiently once you find the sun and slew to the star. So it was determined that the best, quickest and most efficient search was a prolate hypercycloid. I think youd call it a clover pattern. Actually it is very special search, and with that shape has the highest percentage of quick find of a star of any
asciilifeform: u that since it knew Latitude and Longitude), you could find the sun. From the sun, and predetermined celestial positions, you could find the appropriate star in the region. Once you found that star, it was easy find the next one and go back and forth between the two, determining position. Heres the deal. How do you search for a star, though. The least inefficient way is to use a square pattern. Obviously a diagonal is a cl
asciilifeform: 'Part of the mathematics of the Kollsman was a search program built into the VERDAN to help the Kollsman find a star, lock on to it, then find a second star and third, to use for triangulation. If I remember correctly, we tracked stars like Canopus, Sirius, and Procyon. I dont remember for sure. But I do remember that there had to be a most efficient way to find a star. If you knew the time of the day (the G&N could give yo
asciilifeform: (the similarity is more than skin deep)
asciilifeform: the down side is that you get to essentially write in pascal
asciilifeform: as in, you can actually program without thinking about any building block that isn't in the book...
asciilifeform: and the thing has totality, even more so than common lisp - even character sets are included in the standard
thestringpuller: !up The20YearIRCloud
asciilifeform: the pages are numbered like a bible's
asciilifeform: just got 'ada 95: the language, reference manual, and standard libraries' ansi/iso/iec-8652:1995 in the post
asciilifeform: also does dmca really have the provision for 'complainant must sue before date x'? (ianal!)
asciilifeform: but where was the above document for ?
asciilifeform: i recall the original trololol
decimation: completing the cycle
BingoBoingo: decimation: The drawing on sheet 26 justifies everything
BingoBoingo: Why am I still alive??? Sheet 26 of 63 is the single lulziest thing I have ever
BingoBoingo: Well, patent agent may have been the right label. Slow news day so slipping into the drink.
asciilifeform: https://illuminutti.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/us20050027316-resurrection-burial-tomb.pdf << the patent i was actually looking for
asciilifeform at one point almost ended up there
asciilifeform: they end up filing things like this - http://www.google.com/patents/WO2012090213A2?cl=en
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i know several folks who work or have worked at uspto. they will swear that the only -individuals- still seeking patents are certifiable lunatics << I recently considered taking community college classes just to cross the patent examiner threshold
asciilifeform: i know several folks who work or have worked at uspto. they will swear that the only -individuals- still seeking patents are certifiable lunatics
asciilifeform: decimation: just like the cone that takes out wash.d.c will prove to be great soviet roi
decimation: asciilifeform: there are some rare patents that end up being particularly 'valuable'
asciilifeform: individual patent is about as useful to the megacorp as a particular cone full of radar chaff in a particular ballistic rocket in a particular underground shaft
decimation: they are only useful to megacorps when warring
ben_vulpes: granted, hardware in the wild that did the same thing cost ~1000x what i built, didn't work nearly as well.
ben_vulpes: "but i don't really know that--" "fill out these papers, kid. we'll send you a check and something for your home office wall."
ben_vulpes: because i asked them to put an nda together for a vendor i wanted to communicate some things to
ben_vulpes: decimation: probably some of my earliest introductions to the bezzle.
ben_vulpes: actually now that i think of it the bulk of my career has been blessed by sages of various stripes who didn't particularly mind my derping around, or at least found me entertaining enough to tolerate.
ben_vulpes: also the sage american me.
ben_vulpes: i learned much from the sage japanese ee in that shop.
ben_vulpes had papers and dollars allocated from the semi testing company for "research and development" that largely consisted of stapling together existing systems and handing the whole package off (with specs and partlists) to the production line engineers
decimation: presumably, the director of the board knows exactly in which 'third party R&D' to 'invest'
decimation: ben_vulpes: apparently the company R&D budget is now to be used for 'merit washing'
asciilifeform: housing and discrimination etc << the bans on 'asking wrong question' were enthusiastically pushed by the real estate racket, who were all too happy to have price become the one and only legal selector
ben_vulpes: oh, and let us not forget the "research and development" tax credits.
ben_vulpes: this has made me wonder how much "book value" of these big shops is similarly inflated.
ben_vulpes: i saw a company offering to "create research equity" for other companies.
ben_vulpes: plus all of the 'support'
ben_vulpes: they're not terribly hard to get into.
mats: for the half of lawyers that happen to be employed, that is
decimation: mats: I think they get free housing overseas
BingoBoingo: Because no one at SIUC philosophy or Mizzou's ISLT program was making the CIA
decimation: although they make good money
mats: alternatively, 'id the future asset' is also great
mats: ive been playing 'id the spy' for a few weeks and its good fun
decimation: mats: see the world, usg pays
mats: on the subject, ive been spending my free time with grad students (harvard, fletcher kids) going through IR programs that are feeders to state dept
BingoBoingo: The thing is if you have a brain and can't get a perfect score on the GRE math portion with a BAC under 0.5 I dunno why you'd try college
decimation: yeah, but there are plenty of schools in the 'degree mill' business - designed to collect these dollars
BingoBoingo: decimation: We are jsut talking the admissions test now
BingoBoingo: mats: Because idiots run the offices.
mats: im not following, why would the score be accepted
mats: the subconscious domination of a white woman that is