asciilifeform: weather doesn't plan to kill you.
asciilifeform: the best fight is put up by 'homo homini lupus est'
trinque: I tend to pine for some period of harsh weather and natural disasters as yeah, training wheels
asciilifeform: try the ice cap training wheels first.
trinque: I think we'll benefit greatly from the hostility of space
BingoBoingo to downtime and reflecting on further paranoia
asciilifeform: as in, how would you engineer if, were your creations to fail, everything you have ever loved will be tortured and killed by nazi cannibals for the rest of eternity; every truth you hold dear will be buried and never seen again, etc, etc
asciilifeform: one, academia, where they spew obscurantist haskellian garbage that serves solely to make perpetrators 'look smart' and pull each other's cocks;
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 02:58:15; asciilifeform: the entire field, giving its history and monetary incentives, is a poisonous offering.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506836 << example of me vomiting at proof-of-anything. but it seems to me now that there were not one but two usg 'monasteries' where the concept was developed
asciilifeform: and the result 'fits in head'
asciilifeform: but still light-years ahead of just-winging-it-in-c, so long as the required 'furniture' isn't fifty pounds of fetid haskellian squigglies printed on telephone book paper
asciilifeform: so not a magical guarantee (want guarantees, pray to the gods?)
asciilifeform: this naturally rests on the 'turtles' and 'elephants' of your priors, e.g. hardware functioning as printed on the box, and so on
asciilifeform: e.g., show that output of ecdsa signing routine can only be affected by the given parameters and not by anything else
asciilifeform: (this trivially follows from turing's 'halting theorem.' no need to invoke herr gödel even.)
asciilifeform: re: proof: studious readers of log may recall the old thread where we spoke of general-case attributes of a proggy being unprovable
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: kings, queens in the past sailed on vessels that no one in their right mind would climb on today
ben_vulpes: perhaps talk to others who are risking 'a planet' worth of btc already on...extant btc.
ben_vulpes: the life insurance policies are dwarfed by the operational costs and value of the machine in question.
ben_vulpes: i've not the planet.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've historically been a skeptic of 'provably' whatevers, because the required furniture, in my experience, never failed to interfere with 'fits in head' - and the promised are often overblown
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wanna write the first provably-correct pgp ?
asciilifeform: the living ones ?
BingoBoingo: Film definitely points to a leak in the hotel room
trinque: sure, I guess I was talking about in the context of modern US politics
asciilifeform: the 'new' dates to at least... richelieu.
trinque: asciilifeform: I mean the social news cycle fad "leak" is now established
trinque: there was some "big leak" recently that stank of intelligence agency
trinque: snowden could've been handled the whole way
asciilifeform: trinque: point an actual loaded rifle at the actor. optionally, fire over his head. was actually done in su on at least one film set
asciilifeform: as if one can't get arbitrarily clumsy theatre student
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The part where snowden seems aspie clumsie as opposed to trained actor clumsy suggests this just might be historical snowden
BingoBoingo: Greenwald jsut seems stressed at the wrong times
BingoBoingo: trinque: Snowden seemed panic'd Greenwald seemed something other.
asciilifeform: everyone with access to the goods who hasn't dumped them to public unredacted and whole is ipso facto part of that set.
asciilifeform: like other bipedal turds (e.g., schneier)
asciilifeform: up to << sitting on the docs pile ?
trinque: snowden looked genuinely flushed with fear at the fire alarm
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Appears to be actual HK snowden tape for much of the film
cazalla: so i made a bitbet under the influence and couldn't fund it until later, i assume 0 conf address listed for it in /propositions/ is the address of which i need to fund?
trinque: provided this is doing what's desired I'll cron job the publishing part
trinque: https://blockchain.info/address/1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES << note the unconfirmed txn
BingoBoingo: Per the film Snowden was fingered much earlier than news stories suggest
BingoBoingo trying to drunkwatch the newly public domain citizenfour
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aren't they liquidating on craigslist?
mike_c: by the time you lose it, you're maybe hooked.
Stunna: as an anti-bot measure, then it steps up quite considerably
mike_c: yeah, but, it's only 200 satoshis. Is that method working for you guys? not sure how long you've been doing the faucet.
mike_c: what a scam. i lost my free 200 satoshis on the first roll
Stunna: BingoBoingo: don't think it's related to that, the internet I've been using past few days has been dying on me every 20mins or so
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gabriel_laddel: "Well did you get the $50?"
gabriel_laddel: "Nope. All he did was sprinkle some holy water on me and say 'your father in heaven accepts you. Amen'"
BingoBoingo: Just hard to say what one thinks of the prior day's destractions when they wake the next day.
gabriel_laddel: * Eliana enters the church while Abigail waits outside. *
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hard to stretch that to fit qntra news theme, methinks
gabriel_laddel: The daughters Schwartz were walking home, and see a sign "Become Catholic, receive $50"
asciilifeform: the first, article claims, such arrest in europe.
asciilifeform: http://www.aif.ru/society/law/1457211 << lulz. seven citizens of spain who fought for ua rebels and returned home - arrested for 'violating the neutrality of spain' and 'violation of sovereign nation'
BingoBoingo: Amazing how the US is going to shit isn't it.
BingoBoingo: Stunna: What's your read on the Micon/Poker business?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Parks+and+Recreation | Cast includes Amy Poelher, Nick Offerman, Aziz Ansari etc. Guy 1: What are you watching? Guy 2: Just watching the best show ever Parks and Recreation.
BingoBoingo: When just dice was a thing, the Chicoms loved it
Stunna: and all the high leveled accounts that bot it end up getting banned
asciilifeform: the sucker bait's $0
asciilifeform must've logged in through the box connected to time warp modem, to 2011
Stunna: we give people a significant amount more if they've wagered one coin though
Stunna: The amount given away is pretty minimal due to botters
gabriel_laddel: danielpbarron: and there we go, he only let's you pull yout over 0.001 BTC
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: he appears to be giving away free bitcoin, and all you have to do to get an account is supply and IP and a stupid little "read the letters thing"
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: The thing is I don't like doing the escrow thing. To discourage that I charge too much to make the choice of myself as an escrow economical
gabriel_laddel: I want to try sending you some coin from the account I just put together on prime dice
Stunna: and view "other contact info"
BingoBoingo: Stunna I prefer not to send any text through bitcointalk given Theymos's behavior these past two years. It's fine though if you might be able to do it later.
Stunna: I can't do that at the moment, you could message me on bitcointalk though for the time being
BingoBoingo: If there is that would be super
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Is there a public key available from which you could sign a message establishing this?
BingoBoingo: Cool, you are the prime dice guy right?
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts this fine time of day?
thestringpuller: lol is that the twitter version squelch?
ascii_field: the racket is open to 'favourite sons' exclusively.
ascii_field: but i'll note that the traditional interpretation of this story ('look how gullible is usg') is nonsense
ascii_field: ^ quoted for the lulzrecord
ascii_field: when it found what it was looking for, the antenna automatically turned to point at its quarry. Prices for the device varied from $395 for a basic model to $8,000 for one capable of locating individual human beings, which required a Polaroid photograph of the person to be loaded into the programming box. Quadro’s golf ball-finding variant, the Gopher, was available by mail order for just $69.'
ascii_field: 'The Tracker consisted of a handheld unit, with an antenna mounted on a plastic handgrip, and a belt-mounted box slightly smaller than a VHS cassette, built to contain “carbo-crystallized” software cards programmed, Quattlebaum said, with the specific frequency of whatever the user wished to find. No batteries were necessary. The Tracker was powered by the static electricity created by the operator’s own body;
assbot: In Iraq, the Bomb-Detecting Device That Didn't Work, Except to Make Money - Businessweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1vH0JJv )
ascii_field: http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-07-11/in-iraq-the-bomb-detecting-device-that-didnt-work-except-to-make-money
gribble: Quadro Tracker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro_Tracker>; the Quadro Tracker - The Skeptic's Dictionary: <http://skepdic.com/quadro.html>; Quadro Crime Tracker - Sniggle.net: <https://sniggle.net/quadro.php>
ascii_field: - so I have it - oh - the DANGERS of OUTSOURCING INTELLIGENCE to PRIVATE
ascii_field: some reasonably specific claims in there
ascii_field: epic lulz in the new one
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Being worked towards, need the right lol fiat story
assbot: Logged on 20-11-2014 17:06:13; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the correct angle there is to compare to MMM
nubbins`: too many literallys, but at least i'm using them correctly ;/
nubbins`: literally, logged-in user clicks the wrong link, poof, everything gone
nubbins`: i literally cleared my forum inbox yesterday, or i'd be able to paste PMs between me and lightbox about the CSRF vulnerability that was on the live site for like a year
assbot: HAVELOCK INVESTMENTS - Site will be down for maintenance until further notice. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmeNmP )
nubbins`: adlai given their complete ignorance of basic security, it's probably all gone
BingoBoingo: adlai: How long have they been down?
mircea_popescu: "this is the scanner, this is how much it cost, where you get it, this is so and so" ?
mircea_popescu: take pics of the process put up on your blog ?
mircea_popescu: i can only imagine the gamergate bureaucrats that managed to push their "idea" through to the degree.
BingoBoingo: "On Tuesday morning, Schweich confided in Post-Dispatch Editorial Page Editor Tony Messenger that he believed that John Hancock, the newly elected chairman of the Missouri Republican Party, had spread disinformation about Schweichs religion. That topic was what Schweich wanted to discuss with reporters for the Post-Dispatch and the Associated Press Thursday." http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/auditor-schweich-
BingoBoingo: "Knows how the world works"
mircea_popescu: except i didn't, i sent the guy a comment on his blog, which he never published iirc
thestringpuller: re: cryptohawala <<< I'm certain most of the L1 and L2 nodes have their local "crypto hawala" guy
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: i really don't see what mpex has to do with freenode's swiss cheese.
ben_vulpes: anyways for the record, feel free to query me at any time for a signature.
asciilifeform: 'I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people.'
adlai .o( do the bathrooms in Aurora have simulated breeze? )
thestringpuller: cazalla: i tell ya, there is something more to having a piss in the << this. so much this. sometimes with nice bathroom available, I will go outside and pee in the woods late at night.
adlai: so much for the uprising
punkman: adlai: the robots?
punkman: "The hedge fund robots are winning again. That's a key lesson from 2014, when computer algorithm-led investing produced stellar returns, beating most gut-driven human managers and dramatically recovering most of their losses from 2011, 2012 and 2013."
cazalla: i tell ya, there is something more to having a piss in the fresh night air compared to using traditional toilet
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The slaughtering of a bull. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1G04hKh )
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/26/the-slaughtering-of-a-bull/ << aww poor pete.
asciilifeform pictures them waving back
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 02:42:39; asciilifeform: (e.g. contains no detail re: 'pendleton' and 'piedmont', the directorates-of-what-shall-we-do-about-pgp cited in earlier 'crown jewels' list)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035305 << /me waves at the poor unfortunates whose impossible job this is.
mircea_popescu: firefox has the same problem
mircea_popescu: assbot: The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22 << there's something very wrong with any software that reaches v 22.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 01:31:56; asciilifeform: i think of the folks who might have tried to go to the moon in balloons, or shooting selves out of cannons, in the past
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035162 <<< this actually wasn't rare, either.
asciilifeform can't be bothered to find out
asciilifeform: (e.g. contains no detail re: 'pendleton' and 'piedmont', the directorates-of-what-shall-we-do-about-pgp cited in earlier 'crown jewels' list)
decimation: "LAWRENCE Look, Ali. Look! That's me. What colour is it? That's me! And there's nothing I can do about it. ALI A man can do whatever he wants, you said. LAWRENCE He can, but he can't want what he wants.This is the stuff [his flesh] that decides what he wants."
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2015 20:57:01; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform again, wanting for the sake of wanting is no gooid. you gotta want something.
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/nsa-eci-the-intercept-14-1010.pdf << crown jewels catalogue, purportedly, circa '03
decimation: asciilifeform: have you ever read the 'rainbow books'?
asciilifeform: among the books i can picture on the shelves at the great library of 'meta-nsa' - this tome surely has its place
asciilifeform: not something i've experienced since working with steele's 'common lisp the language'
asciilifeform: the 'rationale' chapter on oop system is interesting in that it cites the 'common lisp', c++, 'eiffel', 'smalltalk' standards materials, and expects that you are familiar with them and can understand a summary of differences
decimation: asciilifeform: it's an acknowledgement of the fact that you are living on an assembly machine
asciilifeform: ^ yes there are language primitives for helping to ease the pain of the fella who gets to read the disasm after you're done
asciilifeform: uirements of Class 1 flight critical software (the most critical) are to be attained, every attempt must be made to detect errors induced by a compiler. This is expensive, but unavoidable given current technology. The pragma Reviewable applies to a partition so that the compiler can generate code to match special documentation thus permitting independent review of the object code. The following specific requirements apply...'
asciilifeform: 'Due to the well-known fact that all compilers have bugs, it is the conventional wisdom of the safety critical community to avoid assuming that the generated object code is automatically correct. For instance, the approach taken in the avionics standard DO-178B is one of Design, Review and Test [DO-178B]. As far as practical, the review and test activities are undertaken at the object code level. Indeed, if the reliability req
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of sane folks,
decimation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNF_%28software%29 <"Perceived deficiencies of yum which DNF is intended to address include poor performance, high memory usage, and the slowness of its iterative dependency resolution."
decimation: well apparently the yum author got hit by a bus or somethin
BingoBoingo: Seriously yum was the only tolerable part of my breif flirtation with SUSE
decimation: heh and they are ditching yum
decimation: the first "digital camo" was used by the waffen-ss http://camouflage.wikia.com/wiki/Flecktarnmuster_%28Flecktarn%29
BingoBoingo: Could also be something as stupid as "Chromium there would be shiny" when spotted de sodomizing gun
BingoBoingo: Might be that plating makes the underlying metal fail in a different way
adlai: automated weaponry in the vulgar battalions is lubricated by the ash deposited from fired rounds
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Thinking on it the smaller parts like the trigger group have the wrong kind of friction? If the plating wears unevenly catastrophic failure comes sooner than with paint?
asciilifeform: cost doesn't seem a likely reason, imho. iirc, crew-served machine guns don't have chromed mechanicals either
decimation: but the marginal benefit gained is probably not worth the cost of properly plating the weapon
decimation: supposedly the 'digital camo' is 'more effective' than past camo
decimation: aye. apparently they just wanna be like everyone else
BingoBoingo: From my understanding of the inner bounds the hometown mayor recovering from a fall down the stairs and thoracic + cervical spine fractures is a likely turrorist candidate
asciilifeform: i.e., if you were a fly on the wall (fly that speaks uzbek) where the two cretins had their conversations, you might be able to guess
BingoBoingo: The outer bounds are
BingoBoingo: So unknowable until after the fact
asciilifeform: a 'terrorist' for the purpose of this line of thought is anyone who is on track to being imprisoned by usg under charge of 'terrorism.'
asciilifeform: or 10,000 other places.
asciilifeform: or the novel 'stand on zanzibar';
BingoBoingo: Waiting untile they can have a SLotin moment?
asciilifeform: i, for one, will be quite disappointed to hang on the same gallows as these disgraceful excuses for 'public enemy'
asciilifeform: and speaking of our hanging, where are the -thinking- terrorists ?
BingoBoingo for the record would never injure Obama lest he deprive Obama the instruments Obama set against himself and his legacy
asciilifeform: i think of the folks who might have tried to go to the moon in balloons, or shooting selves out of cannons, in the past
BingoBoingo: I think they both covered this
asciilifeform: every time i read a document like this (and they're all quite the same, as mircea_popescu observed all clinical material re: the criminally insane being much alike - or was that tlp?)
asciilifeform: their 'plan', to the extent one could use that word here, appears to have been - to shoot police at random, and then collect their gear, which which to repeat same, ad infinitum
asciilifeform: allah forbid they find a -working- weapon, will shoot wrong end towards enemy, somebody'll have to clean up their guts
asciilifeform: does it matter to which honeypot they go ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just like the Padilla fellow and his buckets
BingoBoingo: So any asperging turrorists of the Islamist pursuasion "Hilofatnews.com" is a honeypot
asciilifeform: it's pretty standard in that the 'dangerous terrorists' are just as obviously one or two notches above the iq level where one needs institutional care
BingoBoingo: Fuck, this indictment is longer and lulzier than nearly all the darkmarket ones
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Summers I cut grass, parties I cut ass, and winter I shovel snow. All of the time though my records are an incoherent mess
asciilifeform: usg found two clinically certifiable imbeciles and now they have 'terrorists' in the dock
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Can't do that if I want to collect monopoly money from the neighbors.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Piece if it appears would be tomorrow at the earliest. Drinking to numb my body to the snow shoveling ahead of it tonight.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: post it to the listserv
BingoBoingo: Asenath: Good to ask here though in case your question is novel if asked here on the record the solution can help others
Asenath: Yes, one invariably leads to another
Asenath: Instead I think I will keep my own counsel for now and save the questions for when I gad dig in deep.
BingoBoingo: Then you read and ask question 2
assbot: Edward Snowden Citizenfour: The former contractor sparked a movement that’s winning the surveillance argument. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zjGNYa )
BingoBoingo: Megalol, snowdenites as new "NRA" http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/edward_snowden_citizenfour_the_former_contractor_sparked_a_movement_that.html
BingoBoingo: Only unambiguous good news of the day, the NFL's war on runningbacks is tilting towards and NFL loss nao http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/02/26/adrian_peterson_suspension_overturned_by_federal_judge.html
BingoBoingo: "I'm trying to come up with an apt description of how disappointing this "classic" redesign is and all I and all I can say is this morning everything was fine. Now it looks like some GNAA trolls mashed up the worst aspects of "classic" with the beta no one wanted."
cazalla: mircea_popescu, on second thought.. wikipedia suggests they hit their first armoured car back in 93 so perhaps it is heat which copied them
BingoBoingo: That, also is a contender for pushing Schweick over the edge
BingoBoingo: Instead of promoting their beta to production they gave the shitty beta.slashdot rounded corners and are pretending it is still "classic"
BingoBoingo: So... /. just shitted up their UI
cazalla: and yet news of that attempted bank heist stuck with me since i first of it back then
cazalla: love reading a trilema where i know of the incident being discussed before it is named, heh
BingoBoingo: My client has sync'd up to the point of no return, not enough blocks left to trigger an OOM kill
BingoBoingo: So when it comes to Schweich... Biggest bezzel controversy in MO right now is whether or not to build a new NFL stadium. Imma be pissed if that ends up having done him in.
mircea_popescu: a, i was starting to think my accounting's as tight as the dod's.
nubbins`: then i printed another 50 to sell to forum rubes, with the express intention of the profit being used in this manner
nubbins`: you paid for the 50 for what's his name
nubbins`: be nice to make use of it, for .foundation propaganda or otherwise
thestringpuller: one kid says, "I like to beat up old people cause the song said it was cool to do." << i guess this also related to eminem controversies of the late 90's
nubbins`: well anyway, that leftover money from the old posters is still sitting around
thestringpuller: it's like that episode fo the boondocks where they make a diss record about grandpa
nubbins`: thestringpuller he has a point
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: but diss records work all the time. that's why biggie and tupac iz ded.
nubbins`: next one: "look at these people doing it wrong"
nubbins`: well, the last one was sort of a "look at this neat thing" approach
mircea_popescu: "am un vis". well... so go to bed then ?
mircea_popescu: the actual us hitler (the nigger, whatever his name was, king something, the million brown MEN march on the capitol guy)'s thing is hilarious translated in romanian.
asciilifeform: ru and other sane langs have separate words for the 'dreams of world peace' and the kind you have asleep
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: REM sleep, particularly memorable bouts thereof
BingoBoingo: Let's stop calling them dreams, tht word has been abused to death. Children "dream" of world peace. Real men have maintenance hallucinations
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 09:30:13; BingoBoingo: There were mazes, girls, low speed chases, shootouts, and orgies of celebration... Basically I dream in action movies
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-02-2015#1034183 << The most alive I've felt recently was during a maintenance hallucination
asciilifeform: notice the difference. Short of being dead, it is the final, unsurpassable stage of irresponsibility.' (orwell's whale)
asciilifeform: elf and reality, able to keep up an attitude of the completest indifference, no matter what happens. A storm that would sink all the battleships in the world would hardly reach you as an echo. Even the whale's own movements would probably be imperceptible to you. He might be wallowing among the surface waves or shooting down into the blackness of the middle seas (a mile deep, according to Herman Melville), but you would never