assbot: Apple Pay: a new frontier for scammers | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKYje1 )
pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/02/apple-pay-mobile-payment-system-scammers << for more details
punkman: more likely whoever owns the apple store
pete_dushenski: cazalla: i'm guessing banks issuing the credit cards
cazalla: who eats the chargeback? apple?
pete_dushenski: "The crooks have not broken the secure encryption around Apple Pay’s fingerprint-activated wireless payment mechanism. Instead, they are setting up new iPhones with stolen personal information, and then calling banks to “provision” the victim’s card on the phone to use it to buy goods. "
pete_dushenski: "Criminals in the US are using the new Apple Pay mobile payment system to buy high-value goods – often from Apple Stores – with stolen identities and credit card details." << le shock!
assbot: France wants companies to make appliances that last longer - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1EcXo6h )
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: btw, many SK girls get plastic surgery to look more western. If you ever spend enough time with them you'll start to see the differences between koreans and 'koreans'
ben_vulpes: thermorectal
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKT3XF )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ << march 15, 2015
pete_dushenski: the above quotes being for posterity
pete_dushenski: "When deep in nitty gritty of development you sometimes forget quite how world-altering the technology you’re creating is, which is probably just as well since the gravity of the matter at hand would be continually distracting. "
pete_dushenski: Since our blockchain has a number of important differences with the Bitcoin blockchain (mainly in transaction density), stemming from the extremely short 12s block time we’re aiming for, we would have to use not the blockchain data itself like Hashimoto but rather an artifcially created dataset, done with an algorithm known as Dagger (yes, some will remember it as Vitalik’s first and flawed attempt at a memo
pete_dushenski: "Proof-of-Concept releases VII and VIII were released. NatSpec, “natural language specification format” and the basis of our transaction security was prototyped and integrated. Under Marek’s watch, now helped by Fabian, ethereum.js is truly coming of age with a near source-level compatibility with Solidity on contract interaction and support for the typed ABI with calling and events, the latter providing h
pete_dushenski: "I also finished the first draft of ICAP, the Ethereum Inter-exchange Client Address Protocol, an IBAN-compatible system for referencing and transacting to client accounts aimed to streamline the process of transfering funds, worry-free between exchanges and, ultimately, make KYC and AML pains a thing of the past."
pete_dushenski: "We are also in the process of forming partnerships with third parties in the industry; George, Jutta and myself managing this process; I’m happy to announce that at least three exchanges will be supporting Ether from day one on their trading platforms (details of which we’ll annouce soon), with more exchanges to follow."
pete_dushenski: douglas adams is a charming way of overcoming the rage
pete_dushenski: the number of spoon-feeding, hand-holding signs present in the western world is atrocious
ben_vulpes: i see this sign every morning, yet this morning it brought to mind your...reprinting of the adams short.
ben_vulpes: cazalla: come now, nobody knows who you are or the girls are
cazalla: gabriel_laddel, maybe one day if she moves away or they're no longer friends but would be a bit strange for me to share pics of her on irc
ben_vulpes: wait hang on there was context for this conversation
ben_vulpes: cazalla: yeah, just crack open the girl's facebook
cazalla: gabriel_laddel, sure, just let me ask the missus for pics of her friend from facebook :P
cazalla: my missus has a china doll in her mum's group, she is one of the best chinese women i've seen and we have truckloads of em here down under
gabriel_laddel: and I know her irl, she is drunk in the 2nd photo
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: complicated. phytoestrogens in rice, soy are part of the story
gabriel_laddel: lol it's the same girl
gabriel_laddel: they elites eat well
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: nah, the Chinese have a class system thing going on.
Vexual checks an app cannon on the horizon
asciilifeform: these fuckwads can't just shut up, it seems
asciilifeform: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2015/02/13/faa-says-commercial-drone-operators-need-exemption-but-doesnt-prosecute-those-flying-without-one << official liar lies, suddenly making the story considerably more interesting
cazalla: collins class? they are diesel
Vexual: we do, but they are very noisy
asciilifeform: 'The proposed architecture is novel or unusual for commercial transport airplanes by enabling connection to previously isolated data networks connected to systems that perform functions required for the safe operation of the airplane.'
asciilifeform had the idea roughly a decade ago, but no application.
asciilifeform: and there is no reason why this apparatus - or a slightly scaled down one - could not function as a 'milking machine'
asciilifeform: 'peristaltic' version is exactly the above, except the track is of non-uniform thickness (roughly sinusoidal along its length)
asciilifeform: which direction did they prefer
asciilifeform: the 64-quintillion-zimbabwollar question being,
asciilifeform: the idea of toroidal 'belt sander' as dildatron
mircea_popescu: was not. fucking complicated even without involving the cameras.
ben_vulpes: but you'll have to tell me how effective they are, asciilifeform.
mircea_popescu: well just like infarction without further specification is cardiac infarction...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is not thinking of the rest of anatomy
mircea_popescu: why hate the celenterate!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: this raises and interesting question, hypothetically TurboSquid is WoT endorsed company. Would the artists be required to be WoT endorsed too?
decimation: and another question: is it possible for a universal suffrage democracy to tolerate actual dissent?
decimation: so my question is: why doesn't this happen in the us - all sorts of crazy 'reforms' are pushed down by the center
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller aha.
decimation: this happened mere months after the revolution was proclaimed to be 'of the people', 'for human rights', 'freedom', etc
thestringpuller: " strategically speaking I intend to create a digital services marketplace, and would very much like to use the large and varied needs of Eulora acquisition to seed that platform"
decimation: you know after the national convention took over and started calling for massive troop levies, the Vendée rose up with pitchforks and starting executing anyone who appeared to be a revolutionary
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller "bitcoin version of it' what ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: pretty sure you've described the bitcoin version of it here: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/
mircea_popescu: that is a literal rather than metaphorical description.
mircea_popescu: Political collapse will be resisted, and the way it will be resisted is by starting as many wars as possible, to produce a vast backdrop of failure to serve as a rationale for all sorts of emergency measures, << i said this a number of times, but it bears repeating : if this happens every usg employee, past or present, hangs by his guts.
mircea_popescu: "Military success is unimportant, because failure is even better for maintaining order by forcing through various emergency security measures than success." << this is known as the "north korea" versio of us future. because obviously best kim is in a state of imagined war with an imagined world.
mircea_popescu: "Now, supposing a financial oligarchy has seized control of the country, and, since it can't control its own appetites" such nonsense. what appetites ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what about the future assets pipeline? that going to be rolled straight into beta server?
decimation: I think it wants to fail because it cannot imagine otherwise
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not open.
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu there is not going to be a test server for experimental anymore?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's at least rethorically seductive, this theory. "the us is basically emo, it wants to fail."
mircea_popescu: and that's quite similar : the soviets were impopular in 1990, more so than in 2010.
mircea_popescu: you know, berlin women got raped by the soviets mostly.
decimation: in berlin it's otherwise
mircea_popescu: being anti-nazi was the thing in 1943. today... would you not fuck a nazi ?
decimation: the point is that being anti-nazi is easy and super popular today
decimation: Johannes Gross, one of the smartest German journalists, wrote: The longer the third reich is dead, the greater the resistance against hitler and his ilk becomes"
mircea_popescu: lol. then again, egypt was a military dictatorship under the mubarak dude, who wrested egypt in a coup from the... previous military dictator.
trinque: mod6: lol I filled the disk doing an emerge -uDN @world
mircea_popescu: meh only takes the latest one huh
mod6: np. but you were able to verify the sig of the Monthy Address yourself right? I checked it and it verified for me just fine...
trinque: I'll fix it and then publish that for you
trinque: mod6: same deal there, add .txt
trinque: needs the non HTML page
mod6: i think the whole thing is fine
trinque: mod6: the pubkey itself
mod6: the entire pub-key or just a fingerprint?
trinque: mod6: you'll also need to add your key with add-key the same way
trinque: mod6: for now you'll need to stick things on dpaste to get deedbot to eat them
trinque: mod6: they go out once an hour to deedbot.org
mod6: how do you view the deeds?
mod6: deedbot-: add-deed http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000055.html
asciilifeform: establishment, and that pressure to succeed might sporadically give rise to improved performance, leading to at least a few instances of success. But if in fact failure is no problem at all, and if instead there was some sort of pressure to fail, then we would see exactly what we do see.'
asciilifeform: 'Looking at this broad landscape of failure, there are two ways to interpret it. One is that the US officialdom is the most incompetent one imaginable, and can't ever get anything right. But another is that they do not succeed for a distinctly different reason: they don't succeed because results don't matter. You see, if failure were a problem, then there would be some sort of pressure coming from somewhere or other within the
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, others: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-collapse-leads-to-war.html << on the subject of usg's habit of losing wars
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/europol-bitcoin-will-intersect-with-organised-crime-political-movements-technology-others/
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/amhash-reports-theft-of-bitcoin-mining-equipment/
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/amhash-reports-theft-bitcoin-mining-equipment/
decimation: http://www.cwc-ae.com/air-data-systems-computers/network-switches < avionics grade ethernet switch
decimation: plus there are various databuses the connect the plane. supposedly on new planes they are moving to a special form of ethernet, strangely enough
decimation: the cockpit is mostly 'remote front panels' in modern planes to my knowledge
decimation: in theory, if you knew what you were doing, you could break into that bay and 'pilot' the plane from there
decimation: skip to 5:00 to see the portable terminal that can be connected to the equipment for in-flight troubleshooting
decimation: there's some conspiracy theorists who believe that the missing malaysian 777 might have been a heist pulled off by guys who busted into the engineering bay and messed with the electronics
decimation: note that it is placed in the first class cabin
asciilifeform: programmers (esp. ones who see it on the net one time, rather than using seriously) exquisitely hate it. the users, on the other hand, whose 'boeing' stays up and who never have to learn that the program exists at all - love it.
asciilifeform: ada is also used in the banking sector (the only countries for which i have strong clues of this being the fact are ch and ua)
asciilifeform: (there's a 'bleeding edge' version pushed out by ada foundation, which slowly merges back into gcc, as i understand. that version is also gpl, but the standard lib is also gpl - unlike the gcc ada, where it is lgpl)
asciilifeform: as for the compiler, it's been part of vanilla gcc for years.
asciilifeform: decimation: but it appears that the thing is genuinely popular among the very small but very well-paid set of folks who write programs that -actually have to work-
decimation: I guess it flows with your 'foreign warez' theory
decimation: asciilifeform: it amuses me that there are fans of ada in ru
mircea_popescu: <jurov> these heteros..... << lmao jurov wins
jurov: these heteros.....
mircea_popescu: and on the same line, http://33.media.tumblr.com/8bfd385ccdbdc65f71e0edc5013a3e00/tumblr_n67918ggcM1sprsiqo2_400.gif
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/europol-bitcoin-will-intersect-with-organised-crime-political-movements-technology-others/
mircea_popescu: also the usians ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: (does anyone other than me care?)
kakobrekla: missed all the fun
kakobrekla: eh the truck just stopped
mircea_popescu: not clear what those words mean, so let's be explicit : as far as the website is concerned, the preferred display is for every block that included a bundle to be listed, clickable, lead to bundle. to the right of it, enumerated, the individual deeds that were therein bundled
trinque: by publish I mean, publish the hash txn
ascii_field: (i'd still prefer to mount the cpu here)
mircea_popescu: !rate deedbot- 1 it's the deed bot.
mircea_popescu: disabled people are actually (rightfully) esteemed in the trade.
mircea_popescu: and historically, they're mostly hard at work trying to stomp those exceptions out.
trinque: doesn't seem like the cold war ever ended
trinque: gabriel_laddel: surely that cold war paranoia still exists at the upper ranks
gabriel_laddel: outside of the communism thing, I'm unaware of them being generally stupid, failing to create and maintain civilization etc.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: have the pets learn ada
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gabriel_laddel: can you picture a worse thing for applying to nsa ? << Is there something 'wrong' with Russians?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl do you measure the scoobot uptime at all ?
ascii_field: didn't happen with chechen because they look (to americans - of course) like ordinary europeans
mircea_popescu: and it's generally in the caucasus.
mircea_popescu: there's always something worse than being russian
mircea_popescu: trinque no, it's up there with some soi-dissant feminist derps writing a book on the "women in Marines history"
trinque: that's right up there with feminists calling for the marines' standards to be lowered so they can meet them
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you're starting to understand why the us can't win.
ascii_field long ago once applied for work there
gabriel_laddel: There is a bunch more of this nonsense available on their website. "African Americans in Cryptologic history" in spite of there not being a single(!) black mathematician.
gabriel_laddel: "Our vision is to create a workplace environment that reflects diversity and inclusion in its broadest context and that ensures every employee has the opportunity to reach his or her full potential and is treated with respect and fairness." -- GEN Keith Alexander - Director NSA/Chief CSS
trinque: should be pretty damn easy to tell that the thing's been fucked with though, given the output or lack thereof
gabriel_laddel: I flipped through an ACM mag that was lying around the house and see an employment advertisement for the NSA on the back - "The NSA is an equal opportunity employer", and it names some specializations they're interested in, including "quantum computing" and "discrete mathematics". I visit the websitef, because lolwtf and find this:
trinque: aside the domain constraint, it's not on that net
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2015 21:26:43; ascii_field: the exchanges are plugged into a pipe that leads straight to hell, out of which devils emerge every so often
ascii_field: the somewhat lower-tech 'phuctor', for example, has been running continuously since nov. 2013.
trinque: dunno, is this going to be the target of hax at some point? I wrote it as though it would be
trinque: I wanted to write this in part to see that I could accomplish the "keeping it online" bit
ascii_field: the exchanges are plugged into a pipe that leads straight to hell, out of which devils emerge every so often
trinque: ascii_field: rewritten, dunno how many incarnations there have been
trinque: I was thinking it'd be appropriate for it to announce when the tank's getting low
trinque: there needs to be a word for design choices which open up an infinite space of taped on features
jurov: wh it rejects the explo.yt/fmpif stuff?
trinque: mircea_popescu: punkman sent me all the old deeds
mircea_popescu: did anyone keep a backup of the previous deed site ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeh, these pastebins aren't a great place for history
mircea_popescu: anyway. this goes to show exactly wtf the importance of a WORKING deedbot actrually is.
trinque: none of those URLs have a paste at them
trinque: ah I meant in regards to the domain limiting
mircea_popescu: no the latter is fine.
trinque shall dial back the paranoia a notch
mircea_popescu: trinque if it's to prevent abuse in some way, think that only voiced people can issue the command. if they do something unseemly complain.
mircea_popescu: they're a convenience, which is fine, but...
mircea_popescu: trinque what is the point of this url restriction business ?
mircea_popescu: deedbot-: add-deed http://thebitcoin.foundation/charter-B71EADAF.asc
mircea_popescu: deedbot-: add-deed http://therealbitcoin.com/charter-B71EADAF.asc
mircea_popescu: hanbot please go through the foundation lists and deedbot the various stuff in there.
assbot: You rated user mpoe on 09-Oct-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Current MPEx account for #bitcoin-assets deed purposes.
trinque: needs the raw url
trinque: mircea_popescu: has to be dpaste, pastebin or one other, lemme look
mircea_popescu: what's the syntax again ?
mircea_popescu: if the guy wears bunny ears im bolting.
mircea_popescu: in the "double take of today" revue, i hire lawyer, he invites me by his office, sends address, it's on... Pringles Street.
mircea_popescu: well, not unless the crystal ball said so anyway.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: the point I originally made is that they're not funding people to convert .pdfs etc. becuase thats not the kind of people they are. I shouldn't have sent 19:04, it adds nothing to the conversation.
mircea_popescu: but as a side point : for all the fixed ideas in the electoral population about what the labels "republican" or "democrat" mean, i would like to point out obama is by far the strongest believer in free markets the white house has had in a long time.
mircea_popescu: didn't bush have 2-500k troops on the ground ?
mats: fallujah was fought with many more coalition troops and they still suffered serious losses
mircea_popescu: i suppose we should start selling subrsciptions to the logs for the join chiefs of staff
mats: i suspect they couldn't amass enough willing troops
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2015 18:13:59; gabriel_laddel: simply on the principle of "fuck the system, it sucks"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2015#1038649 << that's not the sort of principle that gets you to be a fiat baron.
mats: dunno, the offensive started this morning
mircea_popescu: i find it kinda funny that they chose to eschew silbert's efforts, but who knows what the fuck's going on in the lizard brain.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2015 16:57:06; thestringpuller: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2015#1038626 << here's the scoop on that : the usg agencies have finally gave up on Strategy of Pretense v2.0 and are moving to buy. Which explains why someone figured giving coinbase millions makes sense.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2015 13:28:12; danielpbarron: actually scratch that, looks like he's been switching between them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2015#1038602 << the many ways to fuck up a "voting" process designed by the same idiots that did the scam foundation thing
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2014 13:48:54; mircea_popescu: well sure. i don't propose the chinese are racially ugly.
BingoBoingo: I I recall correctly you azn chick whining happened at least once around the time you elaborated on why Islands suck
mircea_popescu: apparently im on the record whining about azn chicks too
gabriel_laddel: Anyways, this is what I have in mind when I say "new format" - and no, I don't think the 'adults' would be happy about a program that converts arbitary PDFs into this sort of program, as evidenced by no bezzle barons funding Aaron Swartz's legal defense.
gabriel_laddel: all the data used to perform the computations should have a "warning - unlinked <location of data, who is responsible for it>" unless a human resolved it to the correct source and bundled it along with the paper
gabriel_laddel: I should have better defined what I mean by "useful format": all the citations must be clickable, and when you click on them, they open up the linked paper, or tell you where it is located (i.e., behind a paywall). I don't want plaintext output, but rather a better format with the exact same formatting as the original pdf that allows me to click, drag-and-drop and add new content. The authors etc should all be progr
gabriel_laddel: 14:16:34 BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed
assbot: "Death Cab For Cutie - No Room In Frame by Death Cab for Cutie - Hear the world’s sounds" ... ( http://bit.ly/1vTLjlh )
mike_c: the fix must have been in :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: us navy... china sea... cheaper rocker << line of thought was about rocket (or equiv.) that the 'next joe stack' can build. rather then chinese navy.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i just ingested a quart of the world's best icecream. BEST you hear me ?
mircea_popescu: up until leningrad it was not at all clear the reich will ever end, especially not from outside.
jurov: She was a soothsayer and prophesied a fall of the Third reich
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall granpa churchill spinning some prime yarn bout how "and once england is defeated our realms across the sea will carry on without us"
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> i don't buy this 'controlled chaos'. isis is a mortal threat << more importantly, isis EXISTS because it was born out of the *previous* iteration of "we didn't really get our asses handed to us like little girls, we were really AIMING to be face down, feet in the air"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> us includes pretty much the entire planet outside of ru and cn << this is ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if such a thing were to exist - major problems << sure it exists. it's how the us navy lost china sea.
BingoBoingo: The Man Portable machine has a keyboard
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Used to keep lizard in the room from watching him type
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: From film it seems he was worried about "black bag" and in the event wanted martyrdom.
asciilifeform: mod6: i have one; currently writing a netbsd kernel driv. for the nand flash
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm telling you the film is a lulzmine
gabriel_laddel: Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't much of the discussion in this channel based on the assumption that usg is going to fall apart?
ben_vulpes: i don't buy this 'controlled chaos'. isis is a mortal threat to the us (and all client states) and they desire desperately to wipe it out.
ben_vulpes: i've yet to see them achieve one thing they set out to, in my entire life of watching them ferry soldiers across the sea.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: objective was controlled chaos. not to remove the particular crop of (not pashtuns)
ben_vulpes: didn't they just retain some 20k unseasoned mercs to go after a mob of kalash-equipped pashtuns?
ben_vulpes: you vastly overestimate their abilities.
asciilifeform: us includes pretty much the entire planet outside of ru and cn
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2015 18:23:10; ascii_field: humans-in-the-loop is what -every single person nailed by usg so far- had in common.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd rather leverage my wot for landing sites and refuelers.