asciilifeform: thestringpuller: forgot his nick already. something to do with plague, contagion
thestringpuller: adlai: that part of the book/movie is creepy as fuck.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ... #b-a actually banned ever? << mr spam, mr moarspam, others
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [05:53] am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ? << would this be the ancient "gpg wot" standard?
ben_vulpes: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/03/google-seems-to-have-broken-email-forwarding/ << moar on google breaking the internet
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [05:35] asciilifeform: I feel sorry for the poor guy, his heart is in the right place but he has no idea what kind of elephant he is trying to eat << more like a spittoon
punkman: mircea_popescu: criticized ending the dam project to protect the lousewort; << who the fuck cares about the lousewort
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 09:09:14; mircea_popescu: or whatever, the bruhaha makes me want to send usd to isis now. how do i go about it ?
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-03-2015#1042884 << they don't want your usary scrip, isiscoin uses PoAu
mircea_popescu: criticized ending the dam project to protect the lousewort; Time magazine called the idea "downright silly" in 1977. While thought extinct at the time the dam was proposed, it was rediscovered in 1976 by C.D. Richards while doing surveys to determine the environmental impact of the dam.
mircea_popescu: Because it is endangered and endemic to the area, development projects have been restricted to preserve its habitat. For example, the Dickey-Lincoln dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on the upper Saint John River in 1974, was deauthorized by Congress in 1986 after years of study, because the dam would have flooded 88,000 acres (360 km2) of Maine forest and severely reduced the lousewort's habitat. Some
mircea_popescu: the very idea that police may even close roads...
cazalla: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-close-roads-gunman-in-toorak-road-south-yarra-20150305-13wcev.html
cazalla: the cops already shut down an arterial road a few suburbs over this afternoon because some guy dared shoot annoying birds with an air rifle
cazalla: can't say i'm keen to be the first aussie bitcoiner nailed to the cross for simply mentioning bitcoin and ISIS in the same sentence though..
cazalla: there probably is somewhere
mircea_popescu: anyway, if there's an official isis accounts list somewhere, i'm totally game to send them whatever 0.0050 cents or w/e changetip does.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, big brother
mircea_popescu: except do it right, give them knives.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if isis had any sense they'd just steal the liveshow format. what's that thing called where they put x guys in a house ?
fluffypony: [11:05:44] <+mircea_popescu>lol twitter murdered bryce weiner ? ahaha <- lol, anyone know what the story is?
cazalla: i dunno, the egyptian pilot who got toasty'd was quite popular
cazalla: i'm not so sure the great dane shit would be that popular
cazalla: sent*.. i'm not even drinking yet speak the engrish
mircea_popescu: "pay $50 to watch pvt 1st class joshua cooper learn to give oral pleasure to Berg, the great dane"
mircea_popescu: the eventual fate of everyone working for that thing anyway, why wait.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the recently failed megaoffensive on tikrit produced from what i hear a good few thousands prisoners
cazalla: perhaps a custom video for the largest changetipper
mircea_popescu: or whatever, the bruhaha makes me want to send usd to isis now. how do i go about it ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, since this is such a big deal (!?), anyone know of some of these isis reddit users ?
cazalla: i know eh, his site has been mentioned in the wapo, cnn.. and he goes and deletes it lol
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would people do this. doesn't it stand to reason it's interesting now ? why delete it ?
mircea_popescu: PLUS! if you only use purple toys on the girl you get a bactericide cream for the vajayjay ABSOLUTELY FREE
mircea_popescu: but wait! there's more!
mircea_popescu: and bring about three apocalypses for the low low price of 19.95
mircea_popescu: soon enough they'll have enough mana stored up to resurect zig ziggler
mircea_popescu: keep keeping the magic buttons next to other magic buttons so the magic keeps infusing from one to the other and multiplying and shit.
mircea_popescu: totally this is the way to success.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, seems an opportunity for them to stick their dcc branded shit next to an even bigger shittier brand, that being international wimminz day
mircea_popescu: cazalla what's "women's day" got to do with "digital currency" w/e the shit that means.
punkman: it's the color of equality
punkman: cazalla, I will contribute by only using purple sex toys on the girl
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/04/kerckhoffs-history-and-principles-of-military-cryptography-translated-and-adnotated/#footnote_2_2919 << belive it or not that'd actually be ecdsa rather than simple transposition.
decimation: asciilifeform: I assume you saw the sudden freakout over hilariously weak crypto implemented by spec in SSL?
BingoBoingo adires tedu as guy aho makes bullshit mor menory safe, questions... the rest pf the corpus
artifexd: Oh, actually that is complaining about one of the golang tools. And it would be dangerous if you had a MITM that could swap out code inflight and were importing external code directly.
asciilifeform: esp. ones where 'omg111!!11 rich libraries, they do everything'
asciilifeform: but it is precisely the kind of thing one gets when using turdlangs
mircea_popescu: got pinged because of the go http debacle
asciilifeform thought it ends with the 'schpokk' of nailgun
BingoBoingo: PeterL I would much prefer to read an article than to listen to some guy talking. << And this is how the world ends. Not with a whimper, but with a 7.62x54R bang
asciilifeform: (my hypothesis, simple: because eth. isn't alive and cannot be killed by shooting in the head. like 'redphone' and 'silent circle')
mircea_popescu: because the thing is worthless ?
asciilifeform: eth-neg << do you wonder why it was disclosed for bounty? rather than being used to shoot the thing in the head
asciilifeform: particularly in the case of certain demented browsers that pipe url bar contents into search engine under certain conditions
assbot: http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ on Pinterest | 100 Pins ... ( http://bit.ly/18l12yp )
mircea_popescu: uh. speaking of which... anyone could explain wtf https://www.pinterest.com/ethanrana/httptrilemacom2014what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works/ is ?!
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/18l11un )
mircea_popescu insists on http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
gribble: You rated user Rozal on Mon Jan 19 12:09:29 2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Fabricated theft allegations http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_allegation Confessed http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#983318 Full Indictment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_Indictment.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: For the dark mark. He got -10 for most grevious crime
asciilifeform: am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: You initially gave him a small negative rating out of dislike and it was described as such. I hung him for fabricating allegations of theft.
decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/how-a-25-year-old-investor-spurred-lumber-liquidators-plunge < apparently the new investing hotness is to short a company and then throw it into the usg woodchipper
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 20:13:24; asciilifeform: there is even a 'rationale' document (also book) ready to argue with you
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's alive for the purpose of usg stooges being able to 'talk about bitcoin' without mentioning #b-a ever
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Contrast the case of 'Rozal'
asciilifeform: it's at breaking point << it's been carrying on a happy 'life' of the undead zombie for quite some time, rotting, culturing maggots & worms, throwing chunks of flesh at bystanders
mircea_popescu: i kinda expect ejection in droves during the year.
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 20:11:02; asciilifeform: PeterL: but you'll find that much of what programmers actually object to in ada is precisely the good parts
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041957 << there's http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ but otherwise the idea is for wikis etc to be community maintained.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 05:30:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041914 << lol this dood's something else. who the fuck was banned, even ?!
mircea_popescu: holy shit who does these things
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently they're very insecure people, spend a lot of time wondering.
asciilifeform: but iirc the prophet never forbade coke
asciilifeform: the one thing i've always wondered about dubai is what the owners actually -do- (vs have others do)
decimation: the arabs import everything, food, women, work
mircea_popescu: came back home "to study" 9 months in the year, hung out with husband over summer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at some point in the 90s knew a whole bunch of chicks who technically lived there
asciilifeform: dubai (his claimed home) is an interesting place. haven't had to go there myself yet, but have a friend who regularly visits. has stories
BingoBoingo: decimation: The solution is not shooting him yet, but giving him a historical cadaver to explore
mircea_popescu: aww and all the hate he's getting.
decimation: asciilifeform: I feel sorry for the poor guy, his heart is in the right place but he has no idea what kind of elephant he is trying to eat
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That, plus their poor timing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing malicious about the poor bugger, just the fact of having all of the traditional misconceptions ('i'll use my phone', 'let's try the Cloud', etc.)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: sjsqd: is still welcome to my ear. Maybe I misse dsome other subject
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i read almost the whole thing, i fail to see anything to indicate anything wrong with him.
asciilifeform: too many limbs of one type, too few - of other, wrong directions attached
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: best I can tell they were anb honest n00b
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041914 << lol this dood's something else. who the fuck was banned, even ?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They would recognize te sovient national anthem though given a picture of sean connery
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo dreamt all his life of an infantry career? mud, guts, the works ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They would not
BingoBoingo: Seriouly though if USia offered me a mosin in exchange for 45 minutes at the ISIS border bleaching browns... I'd take that
decimation: BingoBoingo: should have sang the 'La Marseillaise'
decimation: asciilifeform: I thought iran went apeshit because of the british and us meddling
asciilifeform: see, for instance, the story regarding the composition of their not-quite-national-anthem 'ey iran' - sorta their equiv. of 'america the beautiful'
BingoBoingo: As a USian I have to assume ISIS must be bad, and therefore Obumer sucks for not letting me take potshots at them.
asciilifeform refrains from going into deep tangent re: how iran may well have joined euro camp rather than descending into strange if it hadn't been spat upon as 'eastern monkeys' when tried
BingoBoingo: Iranians could totally get the dick.
mircea_popescu: and the chicks are pretty.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your plague is high standards. So long as their only demand is I shoot brown people, then I and them will be fine.
asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes - to the ministry of wunderwaffen rocketeers
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But if brackwasser wants my hands they cn knock on my door as the FBI and Treasury department did.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The fucking local mall turned me down last X-mas season. Not any specific vendor, but all of them.
asciilifeform: (preferring folks schooled in the normal army for a tour or three)
asciilifeform: though last i heard they're pretty well staffed and get picky
mircea_popescu: you can probably make decent loot with the various brackwaters.
asciilifeform: (i.e. the twenty thousand)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: tried the private sector ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They spotted me the last time with a specific mental defect they refuse to abide
mircea_popescu: life's what happens while people had other plans, an' posteriority remembers what you did BESIDES paying the bills.
BingoBoingo maybe surprisingly would still be willing to carry a rifle to tikrit in USia's name. Just since USia didn't accept my flirtations last time if they take me this time I want to pick the rifle.
mircea_popescu: he ALSO did the rise and fall.
decimation: the historians who would be worth a shit are probably busy trying to keep their house and eat
asciilifeform: and the decline of each
asciilifeform: plenty of (otherwise uninteresting, believe) sov. tracts re: analogy b/w us slavery & ru serf-keeping
mircea_popescu: this merely speaks to the poor quality of english "historians". where's the new york gibbon ?
mircea_popescu: nobody has made a "Russia and the US in the 1800s : A Tale Of Twin Sisters" monograph to date
mircea_popescu: pretty much the same problems, the same solutions, the same obsession of women with french and men with german shit and so on.
mircea_popescu: at the time, in fact, the us and russia had a shitload in common : inept peripheral immense landmasses.
mircea_popescu: it's easy to recast today as some sort of nefariousness, but if regarded properly rather than anchronistically it's just exactly the same as imperial russians trying to copy prussia.
mircea_popescu: decimation in particular, the us fed was an attempt to copy germany, at the time extremely effectual.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Crassus was the Fire department
asciilifeform has buffett 'symlinked' mentally with armand hammer. and wonders if there is any logical reason for this
mircea_popescu: he died iether before or soon after, and had for a while retired.
mircea_popescu: decimation afaik he wasn't there.
decimation: did morgan et al not meet on jekyll island to institute the fed?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they're too stupid to understand it, for another they don't speak the language, for the third they imagine they have political judgements to make.
mircea_popescu: an' generally, i'd be wary of trusting the current retards' retelling of century old banking history.
mircea_popescu: a crown in the traditional sense is a very primitive instrument, because it purports (necessarily, but ineffectually) to hold ALL sovereignty. now the poor bearer's stuck deciding how fires are to be put out, how wives are to be kept, etc.
decimation: well, morgan and his other monopoly friends thought they could 'endow' their bailout wealth to usg via the federal reserve
mircea_popescu: oh. well, no. he wore the banking crown, nobody disputed that, and for good reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he was one of the three, nothing is misidentified is it.
mircea_popescu: the cost for the 20 measly thousand the dod scrounged together (and who faced exactly the fate of crassus' host) was > 1bn
mircea_popescu: to properly grok how rich the triumvir was : he could afford to pay for ~18 million usians to go fight for tikrit.
asciilifeform: a case like these is simply historians misidentifying who is actually the fella wearing the crown
decimation: and crassus was said to have wealth equal to the treasury
mircea_popescu: the j p morgan bailout was essentially a "everyone come to my house!" and then "you will do like so because i say so"
decimation: didn't Carnegie, Rockefeller, et. al. bail out us banks from their personal accounts?
mircea_popescu: the buffett-rich, the people who are not merely willing to go on the record stating "i am representative of richness, i couldn't exist outside of usg, therefore usg is EVERYTHING", but actually believe it.
decimation: as you can imagine, only the rich can have such a hobby
decimation: some rich 'collectors' in the us obtain the proper notes to get fully automatic machine guns
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the price thing is amusingly at work in all sorts of ATF stuff.
mircea_popescu: decimation i had made that point, yes, but the counterpositive is not necessarily true.
decimation: and the fed is worried about how inflation is too low
decimation: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102477304 < "When it comes to price growth, however, New York topped the list for prime property worldwide, according to Knight Frank. Prices jumped 18 percent in New York in 2014. Aspen, Colorado, ranked second, with prices up 16 percent."
decimation: asciilifeform: pounding a wedge between usg and its ability print bezzlars is the proper route of resistance
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2014 00:46:13; asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
asciilifeform: by the time you have a desire to buy the cannon instead of 'toyota' - it's generally too late
decimation: particularly, as you have pointed out, the ammo factory
asciilifeform: usg still controls, de-facto, the factory, and can thus set price
asciilifeform is an armchair general only, but doesn't see the military advantage of usg against subjects as consisting solely or even largely of superior small arms. what, rebel army won't break the law against modifying trigger of semi weapons to auto? rather, advantage of usg is same as in the time of hammurabi - soldiers are fed by the palace so they needn't 'waste' time on honest work; are resupplied so they needn't look for what
decimation: mircea_popescu: didn't you make the point about how the guns we are allowed to keep are of little threat to usg anyway?
decimation: asciilifeform: the relatively silent firearm can be used to ambush and retreat?
mircea_popescu: rather than franceg, say ?
decimation: I suspect the real reason that usg makes it difficult is because a suppressed small arm has real utility against usg
asciilifeform: iirc they're limited to public servants or folks willing to license themselves as 'museums' (complete with fingerprinting, letters of recommendation from mayor, surprise inspections, ... etc)
decimation: you can buy them in the us, if they are legal in your state and you submit many forms to usg
asciilifeform: so the suppressors (sop in eu) were banned as something only a 'shady crook' would use
asciilifeform: decimation: this might have to do with the fact that much of what u.s. folks take to the shooting galleries seems to exist for little purpose but to make an impressive 'bang'
decimation: I guess going deaf at the range is an implied rite of manhood
decimation: asciilifeform: one thing that bewilders me is why suppressors and subsonic ammo is not popular in the us
asciilifeform: see the 'saw-off' mosin earlier in thread
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, you can even buy the parts to turn your milled receiver into a pistol http://www.bushmaster.com/firearms/pistols.asp
asciilifeform: decimation: they have this ancient law, where that one part is the only thing that 'counts' as a limited item, and the rest of the weapon can be bought with cash in a shop or even outdoor market
decimation: so I don't think he's serious. although the idea of milling your own 'm-4gery' out of an '80%' receiver is a neat one
asciilifeform: it isn't the national post
decimation: obviously, he's selling them as 'death in a box'
asciilifeform: the ultimate publicity is when your shit - works
asciilifeform: because much simpler even than what they do
asciilifeform: to round off the electrobullet thread, i made this gedankenexperiment up for this just to show what folks like wilson -would- be doing if they were serious
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 04:11:00; assbot: Logged on 03-03-2015 22:23:41; ascii_field: every time i do this, i get the distinct feeling that i'm the only living thing other than the package maintainer/developer who tried to build it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got a link to where you go "omg wtf bbq am i the only one trying to run these shitstacks"
asciilifeform: sorta a 'solid state electric lathe.'
asciilifeform: bonus points for the bullet exercise if you can dispense with the 'mold' entirely and form the conical part purely with field gradient in the bath
asciilifeform: then will work.
mircea_popescu: breathe new life into an entire literary field!
mircea_popescu: for that matter : sodium bullets encased in very thin metal : just thick enough to carry it through the air. once it fractures on impact, sodium released.
asciilifeform: if that's what's in your cellar - then yes
asciilifeform: briefly back to the bullet thread: the most interesting thing about the suggested method is that any material can be used, so long as it conducts and behaves reasonably well as aqueous ion
mircea_popescu: if there's a way to show the cultural superiority of the 4th republic, this film in this context is it.
mircea_popescu: listen, do this : pirate it, sit the girl down one fine evening after a delicious repast, watch this thing.
asciilifeform: in one form or another
asciilifeform: the concept is meant to address an earlier thread - 'pashtun can make ak but rounds are still from izhevsk'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: have them machined grossly then electrofined << nonono - whole point is to make'em in a cup in kitchen, jungle conditions
Vexual: build the spin in
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this needs only the most trivial form of electrolytic machining - with ready-made cavity
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Only if electrolytic machining apparatus is refined. Otherwise plastermolds
mircea_popescu: so basically... either water the plantville farm all day, or else go talk to tlp's intensive pilling unit, or worse!
mircea_popescu: but for Other Reasons.
mircea_popescu: i used to know poor people like that. all the things they couldn't afford, they didn't do not because they couldn't afford them
mircea_popescu: tbh, that is the only logical end game : US of Best Korea, where everything is banned not because they can't afford anything, but for Ideological Reasons. Honest.
asciilifeform: or at the very least, to provide the justification-furniture when the bans are rolled out
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Market means the same. At best I assume Cody is an agent...
asciilifeform: does 'market' mean something other than it did when i learned engl.?
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mircea_popescu: isn't cody wilson the guy with that blog, what was it called
mircea_popescu: <decimation> it's all a game of who can pass the liability to usg the most directly <<< quite.
assbot: /Radomysisky /3DPConfidential The guy likened you to a rapist simply because you speak with passion on the topic of politics and technology.
decimation: the irs says you can't live in it until you retire, but you can rent it out
decimation: well, functionally in the us nearly all mortgages are 30 year fixed loans
decimation: one semi-popular scam to run in the us is to buy a house with your "IRA"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/author/scott-fargo/ << Actual retardation from a subhuman creature that pretends to the title of mammal
asciilifeform: 'According to neighbors and a man who hired the teen to write for his Web site, the Osbourn Park student was quiet in person but exceptionally intelligent authoring articles on complicated science and technology topics.' (wa. p.) << mega-l0l
asciilifeform struggles to recall the traditional term for the kind of technowankery where folks buy 'pro' tools without any place to use or relevant skill
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asciilifeform: iirc we had the 'can you club with it' thread
BingoBoingo: Nah, 5 exists, 4 though is the sweet spot.
asciilifeform: as in, anywhere in the thing