thestringpuller: asciilifeform: was thinking about you last night as we were messing with high amp electronics in the car.
pete_dushenski: lol my bro lives in etobicoke at the moment
pete_dushenski: home of all the bizniz!
nubbins`: fuck vaultofsatoshi because they dealt in fuckin doge
pete_dushenski: and they 'verify' accounts in, like, an hour
nubbins`: i'm fascinated that they let you deposit and withdraw physical gold
nubbins`: on the rare occasions that i need to, -otc
pete_dushenski: not saying i am either, frankly
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: you've got a local broker then ? or -otc ?
pete_dushenski: lol i think they're better than that. a broker i've done a few deals with swears by gerald's business
mircea_popescu: known as "we're well the fuck confused, and what are these word things again ? ooo... shiny!"
mircea_popescu: The wild ferret web hopper's are designed as specific agents to retrieve data from all available sources on the internet. They work in an onion format hopping from spot to spot one level at a time over the internet. The information is gathered into different relational databases, known as "Hazel's Horde".
mircea_popescu: http://www.robotstxt.org/db/ferret.html << what in the Heaven Of Shit's name is this!
pete_dushenski: or maybe others'
pete_dushenski: tech was the gateway to girly pics
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sorta my (and i'm sure many other's here) youth
mircea_popescu: turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recall reading that you had it too - the one with the racecar photos
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 13:53:13; nubbins`: and if there's one thing necessary to bringing STEM education to third-world classrooms...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2015#1045310 << can't get boys into tech without getting the girls into nudity.
pete_dushenski: because now some derps in vancouver want to 'get on the bitcoin train'
asciilifeform: apparently incredibly loved in the harems << amplified the lulz from remembering that the first (and until moving to usa, only) gum i ever chewed on was turkish
nubbins`: thestringpuller only remaining canadian exchange
thestringpuller: why are they generating so much press right now? (other than the "publicly traded")
pete_dushenski: but yes, i've also seen their ads splashed absolutely everywhere
pete_dushenski: they're not particularly new
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: um quardriga ?
thestringpuller: My google and youtube is littered with ads from them.
pete_dushenski: why do i care about chf-cad ? planning a trip there for may upcoming!
mircea_popescu: apparently incredibly loved in the harems, which hadn't yet met the yanks (who had not yet met buffett) so there was no wrigley's.
nubbins`: i can only assume this shares a root with the verb "masticate"
nubbins`: the mastic island!
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the island of chios, named Sakız Adası in turkish, is what led to romanian calling it sachiz.
nubbins`: yeah, this is all hypothetical
pete_dushenski: other potential gop candidates: purple rain, 'leave britni alone', wayahee guy
mircea_popescu: anyway. a) they're mostly using "syntetic" turpentine, which is an oil product ; b) ;;google pistacia terebinthus
PeterL: pete_dushenski: two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary << are you referring to one of the politicians, or an actual panda?
mircea_popescu: the distillate from corpses of old lawyers and schoolmasters.
pete_dushenski: two cents say 'sneezing baby panda' runs on the gop ticket against hillary
nubbins`: causes the resin particles to swell
mircea_popescu: positively loved the smell.
nubbins`: incidentally not all solvents are created equal for these jobs
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mircea_popescu: PeterL either that or fairy farts, i don't remember. that whole day's a haze.
PeterL: didn't we decide propane would be a good substitute gas for the whipped stuff?
nubbins`: besides, not like i'd know the diff
nubbins`: i actually did a couple whippets last month for the first time since uni
nubbins`: they fucking *cancel* plastisol inks
PeterL: nubbins`: FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before << used as solvent?
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mircea_popescu: "and im happy to report no flying frogs trying to get into the house yet, so there is that."
nubbins`: and they're actually fucking *nuts*.
nubbins`: FWIW i've used these methyl soyate products before
mircea_popescu: IT WAS FOR THE ECONOMY
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the florida orange lobby push for "use orange peels in cleanning products" ?
nubbins`: (information provided by the United Soybean Board!)
nubbins`: ozone-depleting chemical (ODC), hazardous air pollutant or volatile organic compound. Methyl soyate�s slow evaporation time can be seen as a disadvantage, but in certain applications methyl soyate outperforms other traditional solvents when longer settle times are needed.
nubbins`: Methyl soyate has a high solvency with a Kauri-butanol (KB) value of 58 and has low toxicity when compared to other common substances. In comparison to most commercial solvents, methyl soyate is safer to handle and store due to its high flashpoint of approximately 360 degrees Fahrenheit and high boiling point of well over 400 degrees Fahrenheit. In addition, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) does not list methyl soyate as an
mircea_popescu: whether this thing degrades or accumulates...
mircea_popescu: PeterL i dunno, but the parallels with 1935 england are striking.
PeterL: US verison of "austerity" is to cut the most useful platforms, trying to scare politicians into giving more funding?
asciilifeform: the actual selection criteria for u.s. weapons systems funding are not a secret...
mircea_popescu: that the russians are beating them at air tech is painful but perhaps unavoidable - kennedy's spur failed to outlast kennedy.
mircea_popescu: speaking of heavy howitzers : a move reminescent of the dumping of the warthog is the army cancellation of crusader paladin upgrade / any nlsc weapon at all. leaving the paladin, a 1960s make, as the pretty much only us howitzer for the rest of history.
PeterL: yesterday I was driving through Western Michigan, saw a house with a big Confederate flag in the front yard. was like WTF?
mircea_popescu: "H R Clinton is a American penisless disk jockey in the porn and sexy business"
mircea_popescu: "Obama is an American educationless Stanford graduate in the politics and constitutional amendments business"
mircea_popescu: "Broadcom Corporation is an American fabless semiconductor company in the wireless and broadband communication business."
PeterL: so my question is if they would be improved by adding gyrojet-type propulsion?
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_-iZYIofU <<< in other news, jack black is a talented fuck.
mircea_popescu: actually you get the muchly admired panzerhaubitze 2000
mircea_popescu: afaik there's only one size grenade launcher.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i kinda followed the whole thing; even bought - back when it was not clear what it was - the device (1st ed. 'raspberry')
mircea_popescu: no steve, so not the same results, but it does show there exists this partiuclar herd of cattle in the wild, ready for a milking
mircea_popescu: well, it tried for the entire "being apple" marketing thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: broadcom. but also the apologists (many of whom, i gather, weren't even -paid- shills, but merely fools)
PeterL: RE gyrojet: one thing that sped failure was 13 mm caliber, which exceeded the 12mm size limit, so needed extra note from stalin
mircea_popescu: nubbins` because that's the first thin through murdock's mind ?
mircea_popescu: the eben upton broadcom response to rhel's poettering ?
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 13:43:26; asciilifeform: nubbins`: and the vendor is an known, egregious, and unrepentant liar, intent on giving an impression of 'open' for some strange reason
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2015#1045301 << who do you count there ? broadcom ?
nubbins`: and if there's one thing necessary to bringing STEM education to third-world classrooms...
asciilifeform: nubbins`: their chip isn't quite fast enough for guaranteed real-time high-res video without the hardware accel.
nubbins`: really don't see the problem w/ swapping out for ogg
nubbins`: my understanding is that mpeg is required for their camera add-on (no idea why)
nubbins`: yeah, i read the non-info of the press release bragging about open-sourcing the shim between the cpu and gpu
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and the vendor is an known, egregious, and unrepentant liar, intent on giving an impression of 'open' for some strange reason
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they are contractually obligated to never fully deblob it on account of mpeg 'license' crapolade
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 everyone thinks they do.
mircea_popescu: how's the film biz ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there was a fetlife "btc" fetish group <<< buttcoin? at least it'd be a fitting name
mircea_popescu: the blondy's name is stolfi.
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cazalla: mircea_popescu, i wouldn't know either way, just saw a wikipedia page!! after googling
mircea_popescu: heh gotta love the "usg could do shit" muppetry on qntra.
cazalla: i'm drinking some bundy, meant to drink last night but sidetracked with that orlov article and then zzz
Vexual: maybe a taxi then
Vexual: as people prefer outcomes these days
asciilifeform doesn't know even what kind of dope he ought to take in order to understand any of the above
Vexual: ^theres some more constraints for your perpect laptop alf
Vexual: working on the hutter prize?
Vexual: 2 left and one stayed, and the mother also turned into a footstool, again, presumably snakebite
Vexual: it was eating taipans, and i found them about the house missing the tasty parts, then it really dissappeared but remerged from under a junk pile with 3 new kittens
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : the middle german term for a tournament is... butthurt.
mircea_popescu: digging up to see which the fuck earl of somerset was pete talking about (i thought that's a duchy), it turns out there's two different 1st earls of somerset : John Beaufort (Gaunt's son, in 1300s) and Robert Carr, in the 1500s.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: asciilifeform: now's the time to import euro strange I guess
mircea_popescu: i'm not a miracle worker, i'm a butcher. i don't revive dead cows, i just cut them apart.
decimation: not only will usg be paying all of its tax revenue to debtors, the fed's $4.5 trillion worth of 3% mortgages won't look so good
mircea_popescu: "the only thing you know for sure is that tomorrow's going to be worse" = pain plan
mircea_popescu: when you tell the slavegirl "today, you X this much, and tomorrow X+k, and so forth each day X+nk"
decimation: pay the little people 0% when inflation is well above 10%?
mircea_popescu: it makes a nice jpg of the page that can be downloaded.
cazalla: well archive.today provides a download of the archive it makes as well
asciilifeform: would suck to lose all the mirrored pages in one shot if archive.today is taken out
asciilifeform: ideally the mirror would be a genuine #b-a-affiliated box, no ?
mircea_popescu: but as a theoretical, probably impractical solution. otherwise, 1-2% hikes each quarter for the next 3-5 years would be what a sane cb would do
decimation: the problem is, if you raise rates to the 18% per annum that real estate prices in new york imply, you quickly find that usg is paying all its tax to debtors
decimation: which doesn't mean shit for actual economics but means alot for the magic fed decision meter
mircea_popescu: no, all this because they're not stupid, and would like to not hang.
asciilifeform wishes he could name someone other than himself who is working on this problem, but cannot
asciilifeform: now, i happen to have a large collection of hard (and soft) ware that i consider questionable. but it is kept around specifically for abusive experimentation rather than 'use' in the usual sense.
asciilifeform: cause rather than purpose.
asciilifeform: *rather than purpose
asciilifeform: 'from cause rather than from principle'
decimation: can't even examine the blob
asciilifeform: in, for example, the fact that the 'blob' does not merely initialize the hardware, but actually runs at all times on its own coprocessor
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2015#1044696 << this is sadly such sop, i doubt most derps even register there's anything wrong with it.,
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:41:18; asciilifeform: it is absolutely essential, to understand what is being spoken of here, to go back to the thread about the specificity of hardware-diddling.
asciilifeform: wouldn't dream of trying to solve the particular problem in that thread
mircea_popescu: explicitly : what is the difference between him making secure crypto arms and you cutting random heads ?
mircea_popescu: why then doi you claim to solve a problem through a process through which no solution could be had!
mircea_popescu: you gotta learn to behead people after rather than before, you nut you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've no idea who he is, but he fit my expected pattern for the inevitably next mr yetmoarspam far too well
mircea_popescu: i know people who try to write novels. another problem for which the solution can not exist.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:55:48; asciilifeform: airgapped: let's take your word. why, then, do you spend your days working on a problem to which the answer cannot exist ?
asciilifeform: decimation: the manufacturer can claim to harden against attack. can even do so, to an extent. you - buyer - have no way to distinguish; not to learn what else is - or is not - inside
asciilifeform: the chip found in 'pogo', incidentally, has a somewhat dusty one
mircea_popescu: and specifically disused by people serious about their crypto
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: (these are often included as coprocessor 'cores' on conventional cpu)
decimation: jabba the hut has a purpose for her
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:47:26; asciilifeform: if you're selling it, having understood the above line of reasoning and can offer no meaningful counter - you are a scammer.
mircea_popescu: their user count has as much significance as princess leia's ex boyfriend count.
decimation: but if they are simply piping sms from one network to another, than their 'user count' has the same significance as that which the bum who owns brooklyn bridge can claim
mircea_popescu: it's mostly a thirld world thing i gather.
decimation: yeah but that's a slightly different case right? in the sense that whatsapp enabled cross-platform communications?
mircea_popescu: more's the point, even that watsapp spam outfit had 100mn active.
decimation: that's around the population of arizona
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't make sense for g+ to only have a few mn profiles for all the resoureces they poured into it.
decimation: yeah upon re-reading the article you are right
decimation: well, if the numbers above are in the right ballpark, google+ has the population of a county seat in rural kansas
mircea_popescu: i thought it was pretty much dead, goiung the way of te yahoo briefcase or w/e
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 04:54:20; decimation: lol http://www.businessinsider.com/google-active-users-2015-1 " In other words, 0.2-0.3% of all G+ profiles, about 4-6 million users, have made public posts in 2015. "
decimation: I came upon a google+ stat awhile ago in the logs: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2015#987609
mircea_popescu: there was a fetlife "btc" fetish group
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: wallowing with the eagles again, eh ?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:25:02; asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044436 << so what's the problem with that ?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:24:35; cazalla: BingoBoingo, maybe should've saved the utorrent forum complaints.. forum offline now lol
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:10:10; cazalla: the majority of movies are shit anyway so even if i had the time to watch them on the reg, they are not even worth pirating
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044419 <<< fwiw, i watch films made in the past 20 years <1% of the time.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:00:46; danielpbarron: i'm probably in the *worst* place to be when this stuff goes down, although asciilifeform's locale doesn't sound very pleasant either
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044411 << "a whore floats in all weather".
decimation: asciilifeform: re: gyrojet < lol "recoiless rifle" from your fist? Does the exhaust burn your eye out too?
asciilifeform: has anyone here managed to get adacore's 'gps' to run on anything other than winblows ?
mircea_popescu: "have you raised any awareness today, brother ?"
mircea_popescu delights in picturing the hordes of "awareness raisers".
asciilifeform: if two dukedoms over someone makes clitoris stu, expect nobody to care << the whole notion that someone must care, is a bizarre creation of the patients in usg asylum
mircea_popescu: that'd be the gist of it.
trinque: what I'm gathering though is I have very little rational options beyond get rich, and do it now
trinque: whatever that's worth in the situation
mircea_popescu: and 0% of the "responsibility to govern". if two dukedoms over someone makes clitoris stu, expect nobody to care.
trinque: so the stepdad's ex-mil and well armed/trained
mircea_popescu: expect the aspirational 20% to murder the rest of the 40% in the process of selecting the half of itself that may go on.
asciilifeform: but the folks with actual mil training (plus shoulder-launched antitank rockets, real-time satellite view, other goodies) will have a 'fair' fight with the others over it.
mircea_popescu: it's not magically sprung up by the end. expect a good half of usg to just lay down and die, just like that.
mircea_popescu: the reason there even is a remnant in the first place - vz, the collapse - is that they didn't have enough virility in the system.
mircea_popescu: this idea that the remnants automatically inherit a chunk of the future is naive. one in ten is my experience.
asciilifeform: usg doesn't need 'the land' (again ru-1917 thinking pattern) for much. only the gas wells, etc., industry, fields, slaves
mircea_popescu: thjis idea that the remnants automatically inherit the land is naive. one in ten is my experience.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the short-term picture? sure
asciilifeform: (most likely whatever the largest and nearest usg fragment is)
asciilifeform: trinque: the gas makes the spot a strategic objective for anyone with pretensions of keeping some basic tech going and any kind of army whatsoever
trinque: just makes keeping the cows alive easier
mircea_popescu: they broadly merged.
trinque: asciilifeform: that part does probably rule out the place in particular
asciilifeform: my understanding (by no means perfect) is that the 'can produce and feed selves with 1850 tech' and 'armed for civil war' crowds are disjoint sets in usa
trinque: mircea_popescu: I want the book on your life someday.
mircea_popescu: i thoughjt the discussion was "left alone"
asciilifeform: trinque: the place even has its own natural gas well << realize that it turns the place into a non-negotiable military objective - read: target - rather than survival haven
mircea_popescu: so it may be a case that YOU be thinking of another usa hm ? :D
trinque: the place even has its own natural gas well, heh
asciilifeform: there are a few places with 'living fossils' yes
asciilifeform: or perhaps where the amish are found ?
trinque: granted my parents farm might not be the most defensible place, but it *does* produce using about 1850s level tech
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from boston to nuevo laredo, all the way.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i just think you'd admire someone who'd want to completely gut the welfare state
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you must be thinking of another usa on another alternate planet earth
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:41:27; asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand, this isn't ru circa 1917, the hypothetical rebels don't 'just want to be left alone' - not one in ten thousand is able to grow anything edible without regular deliveries of petrol, pesticides, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044342 << i think you grossly misunderstand it. yes, they'd love to be left alone, yes all of them could grow with no deliveries of anything.
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mircea_popescu: that was the equivalent of the mike hearn "let's test bitcoin". the result came out kinda clearly - 9 maybe 10 days. that's it.
mircea_popescu: remember that time when food stamp system ran out of funds, took a three day hiaturs, everyone held their breath ?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:38:28; asciilifeform: if there were a 'rural militia' with above room-temperature iq, usa would already look like iraq
mircea_popescu: in a sense, the trying causes it.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:35:22; trinque: they can try; there are hordes of rednecks in the woods already stocked up for armageddon
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044327 << note that there weren't nearly as many of these in 1995.
asciilifeform: (being a rocket rather than cannon)
asciilifeform: but i bring it up because of the 'low-tech small arms' thread
asciilifeform: but functioned otherwise like a regular pistol
mircea_popescu: is this the french "rocket" fired from small arm ?
asciilifeform: as it used a miniature rocket (approx. the size of .5 round...) which was fin-stabilized and rotated, it needed only a very simple firing mechanism and low-pressure barrel
mircea_popescu: by the time you're shooting this it supposedly no longer matters.