asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: otherwise just atmospheric static uncorrelated with distance of antenna from device
asciilifeform: i knew they are loud, did not know -how-
BingoBoingo: Of all the silly james bond premises the man with the gold gun seemed one of the more feasible ones.
asciilifeform found yet another harmonic
asciilifeform: not coming from the cable
BingoBoingo: What else is the Hoover Damn or its remains going to be sending power too?
BingoBoingo would consider driving if he hadn't started the libations 10 hours ago.
BingoBoingo steeling up for the prospect of walking halway to St Rose at for the prospect of seeing a smidge of green in the sky.
decimation: shortwave in the us is a desert of crazy
decimation: BingoBoingo: the main body of particles has passed, but the earth's magnetic field is still bouncing around in its wake
decimation: the aurora is actually caused by particles spiraling down the the magnetic field lines, the solar flare that sent them here was over days ago
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or possibly the solar flare << Direction of solar flare fun from here is line of site to downtown (granted not huge downtown) and walmart LED lights.
asciilifeform: or possibly the solar flare
asciilifeform has a radio scanner running for unrelated reasons, picked up the well-known alex jones, quoth 'soros funded ferguson...' - then disappears in jamming noise
BingoBoingo: decimation: On St. Patricks day? After mircea_popescu lost the Berkshire bet? I'm fine taking in the Aurorae as a faint green glow.
BingoBoingo: decimation: My one legit referendum petition I remember signing was when I was living in Missouri. It is Mardi Gras and I signed the legalize the marijuana petition because fuck west county
decimation: BingoBoingo: actually that reminds me of a funny quote on the econtalk podcast: "Reminds me of when I tried in 1976--I was in a shopping mall in North Carolina trying to get the Libertarian candidate, Roger McBride, on the ballot. One of my few forays into politics. I would accost passers by and ask them if they would like to see a third party and have another choice, and many of them would say: We have too many already."
BingoBoingo: <decimation> Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary) << Insuffiecient information at the time to blame eeveryone for voting "generic sharp black kid" over the lich
asciilifeform: 'racket' << iirc it was the thing formerly 'plt scheme'
decimation: Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary)
decimation: and then again
BingoBoingo: decimation: You have to remember that ~98% of Americans made the mistake of voting for Obummer or Romney
decimation: doh stupid cut "Though the report found that a majority of Americans are skeptical of government surveillance programs, it also found very few are taking the extra step of encrypting the content of their e-mails. In fact, half of those surveyed said using encryption software gives the government enough suspicion to monitor a U.S. citizen's communications."
assbot: Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrawES )
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/ < "http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/" < lolz
decimation: apparently john carmack is a fan of the 'racket' language
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !up TheNewDeal
decimation: I haven't used it, but it ought to deliver a gentoo-like experience (uses the same repository afaik)
decimation: re: systemd-free gentoo < http://www.funtoo.org/Welcome < there's also funtoo which is apparently a light variant on gentoo which specifically excludes systemd
decimation: the powerline impacts are probably not detectable on your local line, they affect long distance transmission lines
decimation: chetty: the G4 global storm is a global phenomenon, still ongoing
nubbins`: like almost the only place in .ca out of range
decimation: nubbins`: the aurora should be slightly visible, if you have a dark sky
asciilifeform: vms is very interesting from historic perspective and any serious reader of 'the unix hater's handbook' should give it a spin out of purely that
nubbins`: and my last job, most of the place was mainframes running IBM i
asciilifeform was never eager to run other folks' binaries if there was a way of avoiding it, purely because it never seems to work reasonably well on linux (i always got 'lucky' and libc mismatched)
nubbins`: i diddled with slackware in my teens, have used debian or a derivation thereof since
asciilifeform went straight from msdos to freebsd, then gentoo
mircea_popescu: nubbins` me either. nor would i have considered it, pre debian showing all the leadership of a stale clump of bread.
mircea_popescu: "the last remaining bastion " >> http://40.media.tumblr.com/bab78269d215cf75ed1df862a19e1494/tumblr_mz3c8j5Dmq1s0f482o1_1280.jpg
trinque: -pulseaudio is another good one
asciilifeform: which is to say, they are actually controllable
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo is afaik the last remaining bastion of sanity re: dependencies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idiocy of how linux nowadays handles dependencies makes me fucking hate the entire thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i've seen they mostly do "bad actors in bad period costumes and elevator scripts"
asciilifeform is curious whether anyone here 1) does gentoo 2) did not know above recipe
asciilifeform: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << aaaand there's a bit of instruction here
asciilifeform: use 'eudev' instead of 'udev'. this zaps the shitgnomotron of artificial dependency on systemd in device hotplugger
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's a whole world of it. traditionally dominated by bad tolkien riffs, but GOT isn't one of these either
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It didn't start that way, but it is headed there.
BingoBoingo: Serious game of throne http://fap.to/images/50/1477125326/fetish-porn/girls-naked-on-the-toilet-4.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu saw the g.o.t. ?
asciilifeform: the thing mutilates the entire system in such ways that there can be no confusion whatsoever about its presence
BingoBoingo: nubbins`> large amt of both types on the ground today ;/ << This year aside from October we've just been all light and fluffy
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: gentoo doesn't have systemd? << complicated. if you follow the install described in the Handbook, you will almost certainly end up with systemd
asciilifeform: "the costs of systemd" << wai wat was this
nubbins`: large amt of both types on the ground today ;/
mod6: anyone wanna give v0.5.3.1 RC1 a try? http://thebitcoin.foundation/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose they don't do those statesides ? << Only for the cool virgins
mircea_popescu: well so then.
asciilifeform: the only reason they even pretend to do this ritual is the dream, i'd guess, of repeat business
mircea_popescu: but who cares what the effect is ? :)
mircea_popescu: and that they should prolly take advantage of the opportunity seeing how it's widely read by the world's elite such as for instance mpex discussion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure if that would encourage or discourage the poor buggers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe tell them that if they provide you with a full diagnosis / story of what happened you'll publish the whole thing on your blog,
mircea_popescu: i suppose they don't do those statesides ?
BingoBoingo: Well the partial sybill uncovered spynodes because deviance
asciilifeform: though there might live somewhere a nitwit so astonoshingly stupid that he might imagine that rng might be screwed into a live battlefield system without test of any kind.
asciilifeform: if enemy action - straight sabotage, rather than subversion
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the mail did get in later that day.
nubbins`: easy enough to find out the allowed max
asciilifeform wonder what the cat ppm is of grain
BingoBoingo: A charitable to the vendor interpretation here is that USPS didn't know you had door camera and you didn't know USPS's official address attached to your domicile is Fort Mead
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: somebody ought to sell these schmucks a simple protein assayer
BingoBoingo: Vegans still eat grain even though their eyes don't see the blood of the mice rats, cats, and coons slaughtered by the combine on each grain.
asciilifeform: incidentally, had i done anything other than what i did - ordering sample rng first - would likely have noticed nothing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: vendor insists they tested 50 random Rs from spool
asciilifeform: from macrofab: 'We received your boards today, we expect to have review complete and the boards working as expected tomorrow, I will keep you posted!'
BingoBoingo: "Because if we've learned nothing from Martin Luther King Jr., and we haven't, true diversity comes not from the content of our character, but the color of our skin. And which genitals we have."
mircea_popescu: in other news, assisted mating : http://41.media.tumblr.com/2a0f9ef7d972e3448902da6081a00b08/tumblr_mzp6phkXAY1scedu9o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: "Far be it for me to question the veracity of claims made by screenshots of anonymous comments from 4chan, but did anyone bother to stop and ask why a man would be dancing in a room full of people wearing coats?"
mircea_popescu: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dancing_man << worth a chuckle.
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> and openbsd the only bsd << If you tuck it safely behind a wall, FreeBSD kicks ass on storage.
thestringpuller: at least windows games install directX before they attempt to install themselves :P
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0c02c9667532ac3adc5e91e231a12a95/tumblr_mm6fa8ZxQe1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: i'd rather assume asshats have good reason for doing what they're doing and that seems the most obvious reason.
ben_vulpes: i don't see why not either
mircea_popescu: anyway, jurov found a guy willing to do the windows stuff, so there's going to be that, too.
mircea_popescu: "here's how stupid i was and here's what you could learn from it : don't EVER go with the libertard ideology, ever."
mircea_popescu: preferring instead to write plaintive missives of no value ten years later, like the netbsd derp.
mircea_popescu: nobody has so far taken a strong "fuck you, and red hat, and the usg" stance. it is likely they never will,
mircea_popescu: more easily fixed than the rest of 'em.
mircea_popescu: should be remembered as "the costs of systemd".
mircea_popescu: it's latest but old. a new one is in the pipe so give it a few.
nubbins`: is 0.0.4 latest? that's the one i was messing w/
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if memory serves the stuff was upgraded once since hten
nubbins`: thestringpuller actually yes. i did get eulora to run
mircea_popescu: otherwise, i could probably make an audiotrack of obama confessing his erotic dreams of stalin.
thestringpuller: isn't that the point of a jury?
mircea_popescu: if it is worth anything, it is worth anything only through the sheer ignorance / ample cupidity of the jury.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what value a 3 year old audio testimony produced by a media company with ample access to recordings of the person's voice could be worth in court.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ? << One of the Vic's is a "Mob Bosses" daughter so it is time to bring out all the grains of salt.
nubbins`: thestringpuller nah
mircea_popescu: http://news.yahoo.com/dursts-letter-helped-prosecutors-bring-murder-charge-071512902.html << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ?
BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure I still have my torx screwdriver for the real B&W Macs somewhere around here
BingoBoingo: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+G4+17-Inch+Model+M9168LLA+Hard+Drive+Replacement/4176 << Part of what you remove to get to the HD connects to the CPU's waste heat removal path
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How's the imac doing?
BingoBoingo: It sucks that the thing is a slide deck, but at least it is a series of images and not a ppt or pdf turd
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: You might enjoy http://bulabula.org/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/ just keep in mind this is one of the devs, don't go all twitter fatwah
mircea_popescu: that article should have been dripping invective. but of course, such is not possible. so random internet imbecile reads it and moves on, unbothered. HE IS LESS WRONG
mircea_popescu: http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/96861298768/on-reliable-guides-and-bayesianism << the trouble with the world is that the well informed are weak and the ignorant headstrong.
mircea_popescu: in other news, tithat. http://40.media.tumblr.com/a8d148fd90a47d247323ab5c2cb81c7b/tumblr_mh2pkwkHTk1r7r92mo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: i just picked myself off the floor
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: pete_dushenski: it's in melbourne at the central train terminal <<< they've slowly chipped away at that place, replacing the old with the new, personally i don't see it as anything special, stench of stale piss surrounds it
BingoBoingo: I forget what group was behing the silver cold storage buttplug?
funkenstein_: either that or time to open up a wallet service
assbot: Scandinavian Men Leaving Feminists to Themselves - The Spearhead ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNJ5U0 )
mircea_popescu: you know you should prolly look into ipa rather than that atrocity w/e it is.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: wait so where do the emphases go in your name? MEER-sha po-PES-ku ?
mircea_popescu: that's a mildly interesting problem : calculate the probability of naturally occuring exact geometric shapes of a given metal and mass.
nubbins`: iifrc, the title of the piece was "a list of people whose houses i am no longer allowed in"
nubbins`: actually iirc there's a zine somewhere in this house that mentions a woman w the last name popescu
pete_dushenski: 42 degrees would, i suppose, explain why there aren't any pterodactyl-sized birds
Adlai: camels have a range of liveable body temperatures, like a reptile but not. verging upon the... reptilian.
mircea_popescu: (this is why birds hang out in trees while reptiles hang out on rocks - birds need the shade, lizards need the heat)
mircea_popescu: that's expensive at rest (it's also the only reason they can fly, larger buffer to absorb the heat they can't dissipate)
mircea_popescu: generally birds are inefficient because of the 42 degrees problem. but also, polar bears eat a lot more than lions, per body kg.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055519 << by and large, this depends on how you measure efficiency. rabbits are larger than chickens, but more efficient, under the "food to usable foodstuff" conversion paradigm. turkeys are larger than chickens and less efficient. etc.
pete_dushenski: yes, with the little yellow fuzzy ball!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055504 << not really, no. they had a little less preditors than hippos would if there were no humans.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 16:27:58; pete_dushenski: he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy !
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055438 << it's BELL boy. as aptly explained for tim roth's benefit in 4 rooms, "they ring the bell, ya hop!"
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 05:07:10; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself?
mircea_popescu: the english stuff i saw much later.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol actually, lemme give you the shortlist : http://trilema.com/grabeste-te-incet http://trilema.com/signore-e-signori-buonanotte http://trilema.com/nesustinabila-negreutate-a-nemortii http://trilema.com/laile-ou-la-cuisse http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/
ascii_field: another mega-film!
ascii_field: one of the greatest films about essence of usg
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'm the only one who saw brasil - but whenever i see that sorta thing i remember the workmen that cut the holes for the police to bust into homes.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055382 << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ? <<< on the surface, it's just shirt buttons on the left side vs the right.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055427 << hey, great piece. congrats to the winners.
mircea_popescu: the people who try to have a good time are generally 2nd or 3rd echelon,
ascii_field: so mircea_popescu tells us that total brezhnevification in usa ? the aristos sit & nervously smoke all day, and nurse their arthritis ?
mircea_popescu: else what, the world government is in gizeh, egypt ? poshest uninhabited structures on earth ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: actually there are tremendously posh residences, complete with tall walls, here - ones which would not look entirely out of place in brunei
mircea_popescu: but, again, how many walled compounds are in wash dc holding the harems of obama, the shah of this and the bey of that ?
ascii_field underscores that he does not know anything re: how ted turner of w. buffett pass their time, or did when young men - but has quasi-educated guess that may or may not be worth the neurons it's printed on
mircea_popescu: "oh, the luxury of paying 48658609485609850 for a condo."
mircea_popescu: the us is a bunch of impoverished derps with airs.
mircea_popescu: like, you ever drove by the walled compound where some general is keeping his harem ?
ascii_field: but as i gather, the usg-elite consciously walks this line - unlimited debauchery in private, idiot paper-pushing in public
mircea_popescu: (the first cvasi-stalin is, of course, Donald Sterling. the second is, of course, that guy with the "women in scinece" what's his name. i'm noteven going into the story of petreus)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ? << Well Cheney did have a good humor about shooting his patron in the face
mircea_popescu: are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ?
ascii_field: or hanging his mistress by the toe
mircea_popescu: they don't have as much of a stalin as a uni professor that goes " all women, stand up and strip naked or go the fuck home".
mircea_popescu: in fact, they don't even have the vague approximation of a stalin where a guy says to his golddigger harpy "if you fuck another black man i'm going tyo hung you both by your toes, and if you struggle i won't let you go", and then does it when she fucks another black guy.
mircea_popescu: they don't have a stalin.
mircea_popescu: but i appreciate the opportunity to check this out experimentally - gangrape is fun for a majority of those involved.
ascii_field: but they could conceivably build a sharashka
mircea_popescu: if they don't let THEIR boys rape and i do, when it comes to war my boys will rape their boys and that's that.
mircea_popescu: well so then.
mircea_popescu: so they're stuck.
mircea_popescu: and there are no uppity white kids in stanford running botnets
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you miss the point where they do not wish to do that, for exactly the reasons i will not hire tim swanson.
ascii_field: and, imho, bitcoin doesn't 'really work' unless it can laugh off everybody on the planet doing the sibyl crap all day, every day
ascii_field: these schmucks could have hired a kid who handles, e.g., botnets, for a fraction of the cost
mircea_popescu: that's the la hockey team right ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no dude, it's a simple, 5 yo would want to pretend she's a sophisticated college student like her old sister, so she does the best she can.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it is not a secret to anyone except the completely imbecile "experts" the usg has historically and continues to "use" in it's quest to build itself as a bitcoin power independent from mpex.
ascii_field: that it was detectable suggests an intimidation play - 'we're watching' - rather than actual intent to grab useful info
Adlai: the whole security model of bitcoin is that every node is a spy node
mircea_popescu: ascii_field what is "Are wethe Americans I have lived and studied and worked with for years" and "who once made a living hell out of our fresh, green and naïve college days" iuf not direct translation of "we the workers" ?
ascii_field: if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node << that this was a secret to anyone, is profoundly mindfucking
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ...or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit << wai wat. confused
mircea_popescu: lol nope. i am aware i sound more and more hruschev-ian, but no, i didn't have a bunch of muscle with clubs interspersed in the general public.
ascii_field: (iirc stalin's courtiers invented these)
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:46:42; nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:03:07; chetty: <shinohai> I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055359 << lol @ the problems this dude has.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez: the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish << to me it sounds like a bunch of russians trying to pretend they're speaking latin.
mircea_popescu: Adlai the bit was to my taste, which is why i clapped. my tastes are rather... odd, but i guess it's possibru.
Adlai: long as the choclate's dark
Adlai: doesn't have to be 'coincidence' though, could just be that you reacted fastest out of all the clappy folk, giving the illusion of causality/coincidence
mircea_popescu: these weren't even 1k, and romanians are very herdy animals, and were more so back then.
mircea_popescu: and the whole fucking hall started applauding
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i once took a girl out to the very nice theatre in my home town, 1800s baroque building, and we sat in the presidential seats and at some point i started applauding
nubbins`: nevermind that this is not evidence of the awesomeness of bitcoin, but of the fact that the audience was at least feigning politeness
pete_dushenski: likewise, some people who don't own a bitcoin gather around a reddit to imagine they matter
mircea_popescu: some people who don't own a history book gather on a blogspot to emit nonsense.
mircea_popescu: some people who don't own a dictionary got opinions about the usage of words.
gribble: Controversies about the word "niggardly" - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22>; Urban Dictionary: niggardly: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggardly>; Niggardly - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggardly>
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, these ignorant clods. asciilifeform srsly, cluborlov is this collection of almanach-educated twerps.
mircea_popescu: "in 1972, which culminated in Nixon's historic handshake with Mao Zedong, completing China's civilizational pivot away from the USSR and toward the west. In hindsight, this dramatic opening could only be properly characterized as a swift dagger-in-the-back against the USSR"
mircea_popescu: these were fucking broken, mostly because the "Swiss company" is a bunch of poor ass niggards with delusions of grandeur.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not the point. the point is that if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node.
mircea_popescu: i agree with the chinese. the part where the young girl chooses is utterly burgeois, and the part where a choice is made is definitely reactionary.
mircea_popescu: Urals Mountain-Ash” (Уральская Рябинушка), a Russian folk song in which a young girl meets two nice boys under a mountain-ash tree and must choose between them"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : "It so happened that my aunt, then a sensitive and somewhat dreamy young woman, had stubbornly and haplessly clung to certain musical tastes which at that time in China came to be regarded as politically incorrect, being said, in the trendy ideological jargon of that time, to reflect decadent bourgeois revisionist aesthetics. To wit, my aunt had kept in her record collection a rendition of The
mircea_popescu: really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible.
assbot: Is someone monitoring large parts of the network? (evidence+firwall rules) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpyBl9 )
mircea_popescu: "we got better at hiding them nao"
pete_dushenski: ^cazalla BingoBoingo thestringpuller
pete_dushenski: The Swiss company, headed by ex-Kraken COO Michael Grønager and former Mycelium engineer Jan Møller, created over 250 'false' bitcoin nodes to harvest information on the whereabouts of transactions. The firm claims these nodes have now been shut down."
pete_dushenski: "Compliance startup Chainalysis was forced to defend itself today after allegations its surveillance tactics had disrupted services and threatened the privacy of bitcoin users.
mircea_popescu: seems to fit the data.
mircea_popescu: i get it that everyone everywhere, say the derps on argentina, or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: nope. reptiles generally work on the principle of the wound spring in more than one respect.
Adlai: the ones that ran - velocipator, orinthomimus - weren't larger than say a stallion
chetty: <<< still wonders how dinosaurs even walked ...wouldn't they need steel bones to hold up all that mass?
Adlai: in general though these are all nonlinear advantages, and their nonlinearity varies among ecosystems
Adlai: (muscle power varies by the cross-sectional area, but the weight it must move varies by the volume)
Adlai: their size upon arrival is already the product of those expenses, but together with additional competition from larger animals, forcing them further down
pete_dushenski: and now they're in a new environment without said pressures
Adlai: these fresh arrivals came from a place where they experienced downwards pressure from larger predators