brendafdez: you know, the whole betu thing sucks, and somteimes the coping strategy could well be 'fuck it, i didn't even want it in the first place, I'd rather be a woman where bug becomes feature'. Dunno, just speculating, I hadn't given it much thought before.
mircea_popescu: i just don't understand how the dumbworld works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all perversion is boring to the normally endowed.
asciilifeform: or schwartz's 'the titanic achivement of simultaneous boring -and- perverse'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform truely usia is engaged in the empirical demonstration of the ancient notion that perversity knows no bounds.
mircea_popescu: i like 69 as much as the next girl, but it never occured to me to pretend i'm a tupolev airplanewhile doing it.
mircea_popescu: i mean the entire "why do girls date assholes i have a great sense of humor she doesn't know what she's missing" beta lament is one thing
brendafdez: mircea_popescu maybe the affirmation policying isn't being done right. Half the people in the fb lesbian dating groups are guys, too...
mircea_popescu: somehow in the entire "must grow big fast" thing people omit to point out that well... you don't wanna rule over retards.
mircea_popescu: serves them right for ruling over a group dumb enough to believe that shit.
mircea_popescu: prolly more comes from the 10-50mn gold teeth
mircea_popescu: brendafdez turns out half the people in the google grup of "women interested in linux" are actulaly guys.
mircea_popescu: so fucking banal in its "cultural revolutionary war" rehash it's really hardly worth the mention.
mircea_popescu: the reason chinese peasants are starving is not enough socialism, dontcha know.
mircea_popescu: then they morally responsible for the cesspool turn around and accuse the pillars making sanity possible of... you know, "fish rots from the head"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in idiot us discourse, because of all the "care" being "expended" to "protect", nobody can talk to anyone about anything, and as a result everyone hates everyone else for no reason.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's pretty well articulated. consider the way this place works : once anything can be said, people suddenly manage to find "representatives" of groups they thought they hated quite likable. this happens on a regular basis.
mircea_popescu: these people.
mircea_popescu: "If you are a newcomer to Linux, either grow a really thick skin. Or run away, it's not a friendly place to be in." << also do not be in linux.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the ideological cleavage is pretty clear, and it will only resolve itself in time.
assbot: Gold in faeces 'is worth millions and could save the environment' | Science | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/18TVknX )
BingoBoingo: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/23/gold-in-faeces-worth-millions-save-environment
asciilifeform: more like the ibm way
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, in the cisco way.
mircea_popescu: but i gotta appreciate the delusion. really, lennart thinks he's me ? cool.
asciilifeform: i thought rathead was more or less defunkt
mircea_popescu: ahaha. 1) systemd is not nor will it ever be successful. 2) systemd is a grease spot strictly because of the red hat drilling platform upstream. once that goes away, the whole set of fleas and their "successes" and "ideas" and choices and whatever also go away.
mircea_popescu: " have a thick skin (and so do most of the others involved in systemd, apparently), and I figure that plays a major role why we managed to bring systemd to success, despite all the pressure in the opposite direction. "
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is pretty true : i don't know that anyone sane would want anything to do with lennart and his horde of derps either.
mircea_popescu: "My personal conclusion out of all this is mostly just that I don't want to have much to do with the worst offenders, and the communities they run. My involvement with the kernel community ended pretty much before it even started, I never post on LKML, and haven't done in years. Also, in our own project we are policying posts. We regularly put a few folks on moderation on the mailing list, and we will continue to do s
mircea_popescu: o. Currently, the systemd community is fantastic, and I really hope we can keep it that way."
mircea_popescu: for some reason THIS dude pops up as the only result for valorie's tits : https://plus.google.com/101283637653265125298
asciilifeform: just wondered why computing gets the treatment.
brendafdez: mircea_popescu I was just curious to see what it's like in a 'linux for girls' mailing list, but I think they won't let me in if I don'f affirm nicely enough
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1066787 << does it revolve around the general principle that girls are dumb and boring ?
mircea_popescu: "GNOME Shell 3.14.x before 3.14.1, when the Screen Lock feature is used, does not limit the aggregate memory consumption of all active PrtSc requests, which allows physically proximate attackers to execute arbitrary commands on an unattended workstation by making many PrtSc requests and leveraging a temporary lock outage, and the resulting temporary shell availability, caused by the Linux kernel OOM killer."
brendafdez: guys, I've seen gnome bashed security-wise a couple of times here in chan (or in the blogs, I'm not sure). What's so wrong with it? I'm really liking gnome-shell...
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did qntra eat my comment or they go to moderation or what ?
asciilifeform: (well, there is, but it isn't given in a court room)
mircea_popescu: why even bother.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: yeah, but might be able to glue something with the molasses later.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. people who meet us armed forces socially and people who are willing to write USG SATAN in 5yo guts, provided the 5yo was spawned by a private first class have virtually no overlap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever -met- these folks ?
mircea_popescu: isis is pioneering the "before you can get voice, pick a name off this list and torture their children on cam"
asciilifeform: again the 'doxxing' idi0cy
brendafdez: " It is hard to interpret " there seems to be a 'not' missing
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 01:39:34; trinque: lol, cmere toddler, check out the deep end
brendafdez: weird wording "members of the Armed Forces to limit information the personal information they leak on social media"
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron> lets me browse and think i'm logged in, and then hits me with a login page for any meaningful action like placing a bid or even asking a question to the seller << I find this typical. To be fair I'd rather it ask me to auth often and on actions. Ebay considered their auctions to be contracts.
Bagels7: bad paste. [22:06] <+brendafdez> Bagels7 you have to write a code on them, which he will provide
brendafdez: Bagels7 you have to write a code on them, which he will provide
BingoBoingo: I had a grey one passed it on to a younger brother. Ran ubuntu fine. Ran rather awesome with an SSD.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: To be fair the things were about $200 new
BingoBoingo: On the $20 one
BingoBoingo doesn't know of anywhere other than ebay that routinely sells interesting computers.
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1_: If you like both laptops you have as they are you could get something like this to play with linux on http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=acer+aspire+pink&_frs=1
brendafdez: I was also asked to please not keep a public archive, but I doubt they'll be letting me in
trinque: "k now you can learn the handshake AND NEVER TELL ANYONE"
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Oh, you emailed theo or what?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Her big issue is supporting the cam tools. Ubuntu is probably going to be fine for the camera in general, Iffier for skype. Probably not possible for her to use all of the tools she could need for work on OpenBSD/Gentoo without going through hell and rewriting some of them.
brendafdez: resisting the temptation to install it will be to much
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1_: I heard it was named after a dude who funded a bunch of scholarships. Don't see how there could be anything bad in that.
brendafdez: I want to go the Arch way, never do
indiancandy1_: you from there
trinque: only necessary at the beginning
brendafdez: trinque how do you comment the "/"?
indiancandy1_: why do you change the names
trinque: lol, cmere toddler, check out the deep end
brendafdez: you're scaring her, let her register the nick before
indiancandy1_: with the text
indiancandy1_: the site
trinque: having not done so, I'm aware of the lesson being taught
brendafdez: i'm the nowest one around, that might be a faux pas...
gabriel_laddel: hit her over the head with it... perhaps she'll grok?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I'm trying to teach her the WoT
trinque: gabriel_laddel: sir you've blocked the influx of tits
indiancandy1_: there is no pooint
asciilifeform: trinque: yes, i was able to discover that much. but why the emotion.
trinque: asciilifeform: lol, just the writer of HBO junk food
asciilifeform: trinque: specifically as it pertains to the woman
indiancandy1_: i dont get the wot thing mircea talkin about
indiancandy1_: s there
brendafdez: bc there's two of you in chan
brendafdez: indiancandy they are awesome <3 those tits. I feel guilty now that I made you start posting pics :)
trinque: that's a better excuse than "for the story"
brendafdez: ay and such but nothing compares to PP and YP. And I have to wonder why during all these years nothing has emerged to occupy this space.
brendafdez: I never had much success as to dating/sex/relationships, so I mostly learned languages through porn. One of my language learning resources for German back in 2007 was http://www.pantiesparadise.de/index.php i was an awesome place, and there was even another similar site, which must still be around. I never saw anything like this in English- or Spanish-land. There are som subreddits for used underwear and some girls sell theirs on eb
brendafdez: but maybe they were REALLY random and you couldn't appreciate their kind of randomness u.u poor little things
asciilifeform opens crate with the ill-fated rngs (nominally - reworked)
trinque: thestringpuller: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110615180140/gameofthrones/images/1/18/Bronn_defeats_Vardis.jpg << eh?
brendafdez: supposedly we inhabit the same city
brendafdez: thx it's the same I have on now <3
brendafdez: you're top quality, i can't compete :) but I have picture with the mazagazine with lots of issues: https://www.titsforbitcoin.com/pics/s-38.jpg?1427158661 the background says what a slob I am...
brendafdez: indiancandy1 he was the guy writing yesterday night about the issues with his wife/gf/something
mircea_popescu: the first one didn't take.
mircea_popescu: truely teh lord taketh, the lord giveth away.
indiancandy1: she did the utube vdeo
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mircea_popescu: http://www.ofnumbers.com/2015/02/06/what-is-the-blockchain-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << Tim Swanson is making his own personal wot! confound this whole thing, who said independent minded texan has to kiss teh pinky pope ring!11
nubbins`: mine are on there
indiancandy1: get them more famous
brendafdez: i wouldn't doubt it, indiancandy1, but I'd be more convinced if they were posted on trilema
brendafdez: hahah she refused the 0.1 BTC last time
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 a while after your tits are on the article, for sure.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is murch, other than a guy with a skin rash, which he imagines comes from reading stuf online rather than from poor hygiene
assbot: scalability - What are the arguments for and against the increase of the block size limit? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtoF9q )
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36085/what-are-the-arguments-for-and-against-the-increase-of-the-block-size-limit << check it out lol.
mircea_popescu: on the left.
mircea_popescu: you gotta get in the wot already yo.
mircea_popescu: well you could but then you'll hafta do all sorts of things.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the future of flies.
mircea_popescu: because at the time all the fuckable ro chicks were like "mp, come on twitter, its fun"
brendafdez: he has another one unused
trinque: mircea_popescu: if it's the same handle as IRC, got suspended
mircea_popescu: but it's been abandoned longer than used, because well... the platform's retarded.
indiancandy1: look like they been slapped on
indiancandy1: the older lady
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4da22b1f1235a8e2146a52f24352e900/tumblr_meo80dycba1rsltkro1_1280.jpg
indiancandy1: the sperm donor thing
indiancandy1: then
mircea_popescu: btw, ask her what's the similarity between a practicing gynecologist and a healthy dog.
indiancandy1: so like check the vagina you kknow
mircea_popescu: what's she do there ?
nubbins`: but at least the meds are cheap
indiancandy1: nurses dont get paid good in the uk
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 no the actual ingredients. a bag of pasas de uva. a bag of la pinocha. a banana.
indiancandy1: whats the chocolateraisin a donut
mircea_popescu: nubbins` to your credit, i thought you were way fatter than the cats show.
mircea_popescu: sure, gets in some good points from the side, but the deluge of dumb brings the whole thing down.
brendafdez: i don't multithread, if I'm here I'm just here, reading the channel.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i own some! but otherwise, funkenstein
mircea_popescu: brendafdez more "because he seems to know it hurts and be amused by the circumstance"
indiancandy1: why would they
brendafdez: hating themselves?
mircea_popescu: this seems to be a theme here. but i thought only guys did it.
mircea_popescu: what was it, the seinfeld contemporaneous thing
mircea_popescu: sort-of like dallas and stuff of the era. "now you're married to her and running this company. ok, now she moves on to him, and the company to him, etc"
nubbins`: the fact that the competition is changing hands, incidentally, is made slightly more interesting by the fact that pascale is precisely half of the employee list of the competition
mircea_popescu: seems reasonable. "if can't find her naked pics anywhere, no point bothering with her"
mircea_popescu: (for a while highschool convention on "who's going" was... wearing pink lipstick. then tattoos got started.)
mircea_popescu: "i always remember not to order from these weirdos"
mircea_popescu: shit that was a long article. almost as long as the dong.
mircea_popescu: real transylvanians have their tuna canned in hard cream!
brendafdez: mircea_popescu you did post pictures of an actual penis in some other trilema article, if I remember right...
indiancandy1: brenda is in the buidling
jurov: youre talking about "reverting" when you mean jamming the watermark
mircea_popescu: mine's perforce a very theoretical perspective.
mircea_popescu: jurov im not so sure. then again im clueless enough about this stuff...
ascii_modem: but also the soldiers
ascii_modem: whip the sea
mircea_popescu: "sorry to tell you sir, you have cancer" "you know who i am ? i am the usg czar for rounded corners" "oh, in that case...umm... it's a skin condition. put some aloe on it."
mircea_popescu: this is the almighty, societal-saving importance of "fhut the suck up, nobody asked you anything"
ascii_modem: charlatans materialize always, to give it to them
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem who asked them anything /
mircea_popescu: and then you spend more to educate them, and the more you spend the stupider they get.
mircea_popescu: now your kids won't be able to compete with their kids, because your kids are stupid.
mircea_popescu: it RUINS people, this. their minds, it rots.
mircea_popescu: and this brings us to the actual point i was making :
brendafdez: dont defeat the defeatable fence or else...
mircea_popescu: argument to fucking ignorance, all this. "here's the fence that i made. it doesn't work, but if everyone made fences and we all agreed not to jump them then nobody could tell the difference"
ascii_modem: if you have it in software, there is no real puzzle
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem consumer fucking products. the decoder is open.
jurov: or introduce other ones
ascii_modem: but you don't always -have- the decoder
ascii_modem: the correct solution always removes. recall radio jammer thread.
mircea_popescu: they stay pic.png
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem so you're telling me there's f(data, pic.png) - > pic1.png so that a) i can read f and b) i can't didle pic1.png into pic2.png so you can't read data ?
mircea_popescu: i am willing to stake money on the lemma that "no method of publicly accessible encoding into audio signal can be made that can not also be reversed".
mircea_popescu: and actually a bevy of other such measures.
mircea_popescu: identify the mark spots, revert half.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` atm im waiting a little to give teh interested parties chance to take over the process.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu these business cards will be a headless chicken unless either (a) someone decides on basics like paper/ink color or (b) you give me free reign and accept that some/all recipients will be sad pandas
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem how is it commercial then ?
nubbins`: NUGGETS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT GETS HER TO STOP CRYING
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 19:14:34; nubbins`: tv;dw: kids are shown raw truth of chicken nuggets being made from scratch, right in front of them, "EWW GROSSS" etc, then all clamor over each other to eat the fried result
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065450 << you can train children to do anything. for some reason usians chose to train them to eat that sutff.
mircea_popescu: there was a video with a poor chinese guy trying to explain to a roomfull of idiots that you can't make square circles or something.
mircea_popescu: if you spend any time talking to us congressmen and senators, various czars of agencies large or small, etc etc, this is EXACTLY the sort of thing that ends up coallescing.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` : one face : name, nickname, key. other face : qntra verbiage.
mircea_popescu: e DVD Audio or SDMI (Secure Digital Music Initiative) watermark, which was created by Verance Inc and was the earlier version of the Cinavia watermarking technology."
mircea_popescu: "On 5 June 2009, the licensing agreements for AACS were finalized, which were updated to make Cinavia detection on commercial Blu-ray Disc players a requirement. On 3 July 2009, Maxim Anisiutkin published an open source DVD Audio watermark detector and neutralizer computer program to the SourceForge web site. The software package contains a detailed description of the method and embedding parameters used in creating th
brendafdez: the future holds much lols ahead
mircea_popescu: somehow they're not as emphatically knowledgeable on that topic. good that they know how to posture about "confidence" re bitcoin instead.
mircea_popescu: i'm personally waiting for the credit suisse article about the loss of confidence in swiss banks as a result of them selling out their customers to usg & friends.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez yeah, they'd know.
mircea_popescu: this is not worth the foregoing even if it worked.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the costs for this pointless idiocy is, that somehow a "commercial" product became MANDATORY.
brendafdez: "Even if distribution as a means of payment continues to increase, the system's advantage – decentralization – is also its biggest drawback. Unlike legal tender, there is no authority that guarantees the value of the currency, and bitcoin does not benefit from the resulting confidence. In the end, this confidence is crucial for any currency whose usage extends beyond the exchange of goods." https://www.credit-suisse.com/ch/en/ne
mircea_popescu: the entire "the watermark is able to survive recording through microphones" is utter bull, so it defeats analog copy. you can trivially remasterize a soundtrack, and if you know what to look for you just nuke it and nobody will even know.
mircea_popescu: then again, i have actually never used a "music cd player", and i don't imagine i ever will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the entire "cinavia" stuff, it seems to me trivial to bypass.
bitstein: mircea_popescu: I've just been playing with gpg authentication in flask, and I'm trying to better understand how the WoT (in its current implementation) mitigates various risks.
mircea_popescu: sole purpose the world even exists.
mircea_popescu: computer is a woman. it's the woman's job to make loser's life insufferable.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 17:54:27; ascii_field: the basic idea - owner-hostile hardware - is gaining ground.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065314 << the basic idea, idiot hostile hardware, is a brilliant idea.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 17:30:36; PeterL: what I mean is there is such a small amount bet on the bet, you might spend more than you would win holding the price up. Spend tens of btc to win .003 btc?
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065298 << yeah that's kinda what keeps these in line.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 16:55:12; PeterL: https://bitbet.us/bet/1127/qntra-to-the-moon/ uses assbot at a resolution source, does assbot keep historical price records?
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065270 << there is the !t command. but i think the idea is, if you see it happen you hafta say.
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 16 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <artifexd> Oh, actually that is complaining about one of the golang tools. And it would be dangerous if you had a MITM that could swap out code inflight and were importing external code directly.
mircea_popescu: bitstein inasmuch as you want a central repository, you're stuck with a central repository. if you look into the design papers / discussions around gossipd, this is also a well solved problem, just,
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 16:29:55; Adlai: still a little silly for the platform bandied about as turing-complete to lack actual bignums
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065261 << omaigawds stop your fud, everyone knows the turing machine only had 1 and 0. 2256 should be plenty for everyone.
bitstein: mircea_popescu: Right, it wouldn't prevent the server from not publishing a rating
mircea_popescu: how would you know when the rating's supposed to be ?
bitstein: mircea_popescu: you would have the hash of the db timestamped, so you can verify that the rating is current as of a certain point (given you have the data to recreate the hash)
mircea_popescu: on the other side of the fence there is this (i suspect irrational) notion that pumping out signed material weakens the signer key.
jurov: bitstein, looks like you want to reinvent the blockchain or sidechain