assbot: Police unable to confirm gang rape at University of Virginia | The Japan Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPHIVV )
asciilifeform: and one or two are removed by the 'rescuers' for proper (i.e. heads-off) justice
asciilifeform: the kind involving armoured trucks, rockets, demolition charges
nubbins`: a small amount of "can afford to lose, why not try btc" in 2012 provides the opportunity for "can afford to lose, why not try ___" in 2015
asciilifeform: if can afford to lose in the casino - why not
nubbins`: but it'd be fun to add a few k's worth of yuan to the basket
nubbins`: i'm not saying i'll remortgage the house or anything
asciilifeform: nubbins`: unlike, apparently, most other beggars, i won't give investment advice.
nubbins`: asciilifeform what's my other choice, CAD? :D
nubbins`: shit, there was a Crichton book (sphere?) where the future coca-cola cans were all in chinese
nubbins`: i sorta feel like getting on the yuan train
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it is being felt. i distinctly recall watching some trashy american adventure film a year or two ago, involving time travel to the future, and the hero had a treasure chest under his floorboards with thick stacks of yuan
assbot: The astounding rise of China's currency: Don Pittis - Business - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcX7lg )
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/the-astounding-rise-of-china-s-currency-don-pittis-1.3005562
nubbins`: altho TBF "get the fuck off our land" doesn't work if you're a kid in downtown montreal
nubbins`: the protest crowd could learn some lessons from em
asciilifeform: y or implicitly, that one should side with the big man against the little man. Most of what is now written about foreign policy is simply an embroidery on this theme...'
asciilifeform: 'Until recently the characteristic adventure stories of the English-speaking peoples have been stories in which the hero fights against odds. This is true all the way from Robin Hood to Pop-eye the Sailor. Perhaps the basic myth of the Western world is Jack the Giant-killer, but to be brought up to date this should be renamed Jack the Dwarf-killer, and there already exists a considerable literature which teaches, either overtl
asciilifeform: and the obligatory orwell observation,
nubbins`: the gall, hey?
asciilifeform: or how a firm i once worked for, that shall remain nameless, invited the public to contribute spare change to one of its (congressionally-funded!) wunderwaffen projects that will 'help save our boys in iraq'
asciilifeform: reminds me of how when clinton was half-heartedly prosecuting microshit for antitrust violations, some 'think tank' (cato? i forget) had a 'microsoft defense fund' that the public was invited to contribute to !
nubbins` gets the VIP treatment every time due to an incident involving some undeclared goods
nubbins`: "My major concern at the time, because I travel to the states every now and then, is there going to be a red flag when they scan my passport? Is something going to show that I'm bringing in endangered whatever?" <<< yes, with 100% certainty.
nubbins`: it's much, much easier to cover up idiosyncrasies if there's a language and culture barrier in the way
nubbins`: there's about a 50/50 split between "young people who want to see the world, travel, pay off debt" and "weirdos escaping to start over"
nubbins`: i'm thinking of roughly half the foreigners i met while teaching overseas
nubbins`: that was when i learned you don't run on parking lots when they're covered in gravel
assbot: Young girl struck by school bus in Mary Queen of the World parking lot - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcRbZq )
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/young-girl-struck-by-school-bus-in-mary-queen-of-the-world-parking-lot-1.3006801
nubbins`: put another way: those who are unable to judge the character/nature of others are more likely to wish for escape, and their disability follows them to their new life, where they make the same sort of mistakes they'd make at home
asciilifeform: 'No wonder foreign husbands often complain about Japanese women suddenly transforming from sweet and cute girlfriends into shufu professional housewives emotionally and physically distant from their husbands and fully devoted to their children and home.' << dependopotamus (TM) !
nubbins`: my face when i found unfiltered blacklight bulbs that peak at the *exact* wavelength my emulsion is most sensitive to
asciilifeform: (mr s, naturally, http://www.zdnet.com/article/snowden-it-workers-are-now-the-target-of-spies )
asciilifeform: 'They are looking for the people who are in this room right now: you will be the target. Not because you are a terrorist, not because you are suspected of any criminal wrongdoing, but because you have access to systems, you have access to infrastructure, you have access to the private records, people's private lives. These are the things that they want.'
asciilifeform: in other news,
nubbins`: incidentally, the conveyor oven used for final cure has these same black-body panels inside
asciilifeform: greatest wisdom of this ruler was, iirc, 'when you come to power, begin by putting three of your closest friends in jail. you already know -what for-, and they also know -what for.-'
asciilifeform: in other news, lee kuan yew is dead
asciilifeform: the 'correct' solution is probably ir lamp.
nubbins`: thermal buffer = massively long heat-up times, additional weight
asciilifeform: whereas the 'network of tiny coils' is likewise unnecessary
asciilifeform: no thermal mass to speak of, in it
asciilifeform: the mesh screen is not a buffer !
nubbins`: that's what the mesh screen is attempting/failing to do
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you know, the oven heater would work fine if you had a thermal buffer (think 'pizza stone') between it and the payload
nubbins`: the really nice ones ($3k+) use quartz tubes
asciilifeform: what size/shape is the heat bed ?
asciilifeform: (at any rate, if buying chinese, do it somewhere you can return if necessary and measure the ripple)
asciilifeform: (appears in one of the photos linked earlier, displaying supply voltage and current consumption of rng)
nubbins`: nod, clean used ones on ebay for about the same
nubbins`: today i learned that the cost of a variable dc power supply is much less than i'd imagined
asciilifeform: solder wick << aha, it behaves just like any other liquid.
asciilifeform: (for those innocent of the thing - it was simply a box with battery, and tipped with a small carboniferous fork. stick the fork on solder ball, it melts...)
nubbins`: good luck tinning the tip of it ;p
asciilifeform: Adlai: actually, pick'n'place machines build in the '80s did this as routine matter
Adlai: this seems like a fairly ideal domain for another one of those robotics startups
asciilifeform: they did it, not me
nubbins`: there's a term in korea for young people who live poor at home so they can buy frappucinos in public
Adlai: although it's a little hard to pity him, given the nonzero chance that he also has a few coins
nubbins`: the one with the blond ponytail and a dragon painted on his jeans in the subway? yeah, that guy
asciilifeform: the foreigners who are in jp for the long haul, are typically on serious business and live among their own kind.
nubbins`: the ones that do, i truly pity
asciilifeform: the only reason why jp is still interesting to anybody is precisely that these folks -can't- get in their wot
nubbins`: a lot of them don't make it to japan
nubbins`: oh hmm, the manga fans and neckbeards who say "that's so kawaii"
asciilifeform: the more serious ones wanted to 'be japanese'
nubbins`: i, on the other hand, thought setting down roots in above would be HARD but it was only MODERATELY DIFFICULT AND SOMETIMES FRUSTRATING
asciilifeform: and that wasn't on the menu.
asciilifeform: the 'pathology' was that these people imagined they wanted to move to japan, but what they -actually- wanted was: -to have always lived there-
asciilifeform: nubbins`: there was an entire newsgroup for these folks (and 'candidates') once - soc.culture.japan
nubbins`: tldr "i thought setting down roots in a foreign country where i'm a visible minority who doesn't understand the language or culture would be EASY but it's HARD"
assbot: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan | The Japan Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpIgTz )
jurov: nubbins`: you can use these as illuminations for alf's book
nubbins`: was able to find equivalents for most, but not all, of the hardening compile options
nubbins`: so uh, there's that
nubbins`: oh and the 0.5.3 makefile.osx doesn't have *any* of the hardening stuff that makefile.unix does
Adlai: my pet theory of late is that satoshi intentionally built 0.1 on winblows as a red herring
nubbins`: so without having the ability to check, i'd advance that SO_NOSIGPIPE might be an osx-specific fix
nubbins`: random forum quote: "In linux sockets (BSD 4.4 compliant) there something called MSG_NOSIGNAL"
asciilifeform: i zapped the win32 ifdefs on account of them cluttering up my reading material, and for no particular other reason
asciilifeform: i'm actually rather surprised that nobody's clamouring to reintroduce winblows build
asciilifeform: the non-retarded sibling of unix
nubbins`: (example: sed 's/MSG_NOSIGNAL/SO_NOSIGPIPE/' on two files is approx. half the work)
asciilifeform: aha there we go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thousands of sex offenders << my understanding is that the lion's share of these are 'statutory' violators
nubbins`: i'll put together a makefile.osx and some modification instructions that you can ritually burn
asciilifeform: (the 'no defenses' thing is not strictly true, at one point 'predator' was fitted with a small anti-aircraft rocket, iirc in gulfwar-2)
asciilifeform: payload can be ordinary thermite.
asciilifeform: (they are not built to fight, but to assassinate)
asciilifeform: none of the american unmanned machines have any defensive armaments.
mircea_popescu: provided of course they're not in range of fire,
asciilifeform: often because someone inside has a phone or is otherwise pissing rf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way the machines are typically used is that usg knows precisely where the truck will be
mircea_popescu: if they ever get close to a truck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: methinks the entrie drone thing is getting abandoned eventually. they don't actually seem to work worth a shit << whatcha talking about, they're as good for rocketing trucks full of unarmed people as they ever were...
punkman: maybe the shareholders didn't like that all new accounts are depositing to private addresses?
mats: wtt is going on with the share price
mircea_popescu: methinks the entrie drone thing is getting abandoned eventually. they don't actually seem to work worth a shit.
mircea_popescu: "Iran will emerge, whether we like it or not, as the central power in their sphere," said Aaron David Miller, an analyst at the Wilson Center and former State Department official.
mircea_popescu: probably the easiest way would be to just create the es. en. spaces and install a fresh wordpress for es.
mircea_popescu: which... i grant you... figure the fucking odds.
mircea_popescu: lol even found the old szabo threads and everything. i'm curious what comes of this.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 07:39:37; brendafdez: so when blocks fill up and transactions start competing and miner subsidy goes down halving after halving the cost issue of why its not for coffee will be clearer
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067323 << check it out, all the stuff brenda figured out on her own. pretty quick twist eh.
mircea_popescu: top o' the mornin' for you.
mircea_popescu: ahh check it out, everyone's asleep, i got the whole multiplex all to myself.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 07:00:23; brendafdez: This brings us to another issue which is the way the 'foundations' present themselves as as sort of official representation of bitcoin. That way they are better able to get funds from companies which want to be advertised and from membes of the community who want to 'be part of bitcoin'. It's what the FBA was/is doing and what the BF was/is doing on a much larger scale.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 06:44:05; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c i've got high hopes for the wot-site -- you set a high bar with WoL
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067250 << agreed, guy's incredibly talented for web design without being retarded. he ruined all sorts of pet theories with that.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 06:11:21; ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i give up, how are a practicing gynecologist and a healthy dog the same?
cazalla: alternatively, translate the spanish bitcoin news to english and have it on main qntra
cazalla: my suggested would be to set you up on es.qntra.net, but ask mircea_popescu and BingoBoingo for their thoughts
cazalla: <brendafdez> Next time I'll see BingoBoingo I'll try to get him to gpg sign something that says they want my Spanish translations :P <<< did we not make it clear that they are wanted?
brendafdez: Sadly he will not be coming to the conference, so I can't put substances in his drink to make him open the keyring (?
brendafdez: Next time I'll see BingoBoingo I'll try to get him to gpg sign something that says they want my Spanish translations :P
brendafdez: There's also qntra, it's the sane place to get your bitcoin cup of coffee without all the CoinDesk shit
marteen: and I can even trust the 'verdulero', etc., but i definitely don't trust my bank
brendafdez: if they can trust you back, especially now that youre in the wot you could pay with your own
brendafdez: but for quite a while there's been a trend to sell 'decentralization of your grandma through smart contracts in the blockchain' as the next big thing, that's maybe just smoke and meaningless bullshit to appeal to the vcs
BingoBoingo: brendafdez> bitcoin is like gold. And gold is no less valuable when you can't spend it at a coffe shop. And even if there are large costs to exchange such modest amounts of gold or silver << It going take some intermediate step. Instead of trading you highly valuable Bitcoin/Plutonium for coffee you trade it for big bundle of credits at the coffee shop or whatever the local cash sustomarily used for small value trades is
marteen: the key there is that it should be very easy and almost free for anyone to create a centralized private token
brendafdez: that's where we're heading back with bitcoin, taking away the power of the government. Sometimes one loses the big picture. Taking the ability of the government corporation to finance itself through robbery (taxes) and deceit (inflation) is important. Decentralizing coffy purchases at small shops maybe not so much. You could do it in centralized brandatokens and get your bitcoin sent at the end of the day. If I charge you much you go
marteen: brendafdez: btw, thanks for taking the time to explain all this to me :)
brendafdez: for most all the rest of human history private money was no big deal
brendafdez: after all, fiat and the monopoly of money by the state has been going for barely a century.
marteen: hhmmm, i don't like these papers
brendafdez: i'm not sure, there are alternatvies, alternative chains, sidechains, whatever, which certainly can't compete with bitcoin.
brendafdez: so when blocks fill up and transactions start competing and miner subsidy goes down halving after halving the cost issue of why its not for coffee will be clearer
brendafdez: In the future we'll look back and wonder how bitcoin transactions used to be free, when they have large costs involved and it needs be so to keep the network secure
brendafdez: There was a point in bitcoin history when bitcoin was basically free, it had no monetary value, at least during 2009, and mostly also 2010, now it would be unthinkablee
brendafdez: bitcoin is like gold. And gold is no less valuable when you can't spend it at a coffe shop. And even if there are large costs to exchange such modest amounts of gold or silver
brendafdez: but it's problematic for many reasons to think that the value of bitcoin is to be able to pay coffe at a shop
brendafdez: If mircea or pete were online and willing to discuss it, it would be easier, they have a more solid and convincing rhetoric than I could dream of myself
brendafdez: the banks can be avoided entirely. The intermediary is not a must. You can just get in contact with other people, publish your own listings and such. When you're paying with bitcoin, they are selling the bitcoin, so the cost is also there. In Argentina anyway pretty much no transactions at PoS are made in bitcoin, it's just a show for companies which pretend to be doing busniess helping merchants accept bitcoin
marteen: anyway, even if there's availability of btc <-> fiat services, i'd much rather avoid the intermediaries (and the banks)
brendafdez: santiago castiglione travels there often bringing cash, the two btb braindamaged morons do it, if you can stand their stupidity. Tha saner person in Mendoiza is Adriel Araujo from Bitpagos. Contact him, he'll be able to help you, no doubt.
brendafdez: if you were in a small town and no bank account then maybe inconvenient
brendafdez: why is it? bc there are no people doing it cash in mendoza? i know for a fact thats not the acse
cazalla: brendafdez: indiancandy they are awesome <3 those tits. I feel guilty now that I made you start posting pics :) <<< great tits, great body, but what a busted face she has
brendafdez: you can sell the bitcoin and buy with fiat,
brendafdez: I told you i wasn't even breaking even :P ask the FBA guys, they got funded in late 2012 to do it, and a few who suck theirs get a small part of the cake
brendafdez: the point about evangelism is that if you suck the right cock you may make a living out of it. I'm not naming names
brendafdez: The whole 'evangelism' thing is bullshit, but there are incentives to do it, companies paying for it, who get their money from vcs and desperately need adoption, users, whatever
brendafdez: selling the campanies the idea that you'll be selling them with bitcoin to people who attend the talks/conferences/etc
brendafdez: I wanted to write an article on 'bitcon evangelism' or 'selling bitcoin', which of course is selling it to the companies not the people :P
brendafdez: but also it was always open to people who wanted to come with us. As generally we weren't even covering the costs, having more poeple participate usually meant each one had to pay a smaller fraction, usually less money.
ben_vulpes: hence the startup as flamethrower fueled by bezzlars metaphor.
brendafdez: through sponsors, we had some of them, bitpagos sponsored every trip, digicoins sponsored the trip to mendoza, beOk sponsored the trip to paraguay
brendafdez: it was awesome for us as an experience I must say, getting to know the local communites, to travel so much, also to be able to promote one 'real use case' for bitcoin to local service providers
brendafdez: When we presented our project as an independent bunch of guys it wasn't the same.
brendafdez: This brings us to another issue which is the way the 'foundations' present themselves as as sort of official representation of bitcoin. That way they are better able to get funds from companies which want to be advertised and from membes of the community who want to 'be part of bitcoin'. It's what the FBA was/is doing and what the BF was/is doing on a much larger scale.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
brendafdez: well, i don't have plans, but it may happen. The last trip we made as part of the Giras Bitcoiners project was Asunción in Paraguay last December. The funding issue wasn't getting better. Only one of the trips allowed us to break even.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 01:39:34; trinque: lol, cmere toddler, check out the deep end
brendafdez: now whenever you're bored you can read logs or the blogs (http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com). One never reaches the end http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1066689
ben_vulpes: the voice persists with your connection
brendafdez: marteen you can message !up to assbot and verify by decypting the string
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c i've got high hopes for the wot-site -- you set a high bar with WoL
brendafdez: ben_vulpes :P i'm am, but i've already fixed the lastness issue. No longer the newest, new flesh blood, and on it goes.
ben_vulpes: although, entertainingly, every day the election cycle grows closer, babe-o-tron grows more insistent about spending 2016 out of the country.
brendafdez: ben_vulpes I could put you in contact with people who may want to do it, but I think they have their issues with customs too, not as stringent as argentina
brendafdez: ben_vulpes you need someone there you could ship things to?
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: blood for the blood god
ben_vulpes: !rate brendafdez 1 blood for the blood god
brendafdez: ben_vulpes so when do I get my prize for bringing in new blood to please the gods through sacrifice?
brendafdez: I couldn't possibly know. The only people I know who do it are bringing in stacks of cash
ben_vulpes: brendafdez: just out of curiosity, do many people have things delivered across the river and shuttle them over via ferry?
ben_vulpes: full fingerprint, marteen. "long", as they say.
brendafdez: the whole key id
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 08:53:20; mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/f54460da0cbc358c33a1304125119cb4/tumblr_mmwqr9Y3Ty1rsze6qo1_1280.jpg << the birth of an idea
marteen: brendafdez: well, I'm glad I came to this channel then :)
marteen: brendafdez: nope, back in 2013 I had no idea the list existed
brendafdez: marteen pretty nice to have a fellow list member over here. Were you reading the list in 2013? It was a space of sane and interesting discussion which has since been lost. That's why I mentioned b-a in my message, bc I htink some of the oldtimers might be interested. Also, we used to have wences and rdponticelli, both of them were also here back in the day.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 07:55:57; trinque: all my money's coming from tejas; there's a reason for that
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1064798 << oh come now it's because your salesforce is down there and sales is nasty dirty work programmer folk hate to do.
brendafdez: marteen do you use irc often? I was pretty much a virgin before getting into b-a. You could go to the #freenode channel and ask for a cloak, so not everyone will see your IP. Also, you might be interested in registering your username with NickServ so it doesn't get squatted like indiancandy1_ 's
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i give up, how are a practicing gynecologist and a healthy dog the same?
marteen: brendafdez: but, I'm afraid we don't know each other :(
brendafdez: maarten your IP shows you might be located in Mendoza, that's interesting, I there not long ago, with Sebastián Serrano and others, and we had a couple of presentations and a meetup. Do I know you?
marteen readin about the wot...
marteen: brendafdez: hhmm, I'm not sure I've been there for that long...
brendafdez: marteen who are you in the list?
marteen: brendafdez: i've been lurking there for a little while :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, turns out i misread the data. it's "residents per sex offender".
ben_vulpes: can it be ptsd if i'm still living the nightmare?
mircea_popescu: 3 counts, because the girl was 15.
trinque: also penises are illegal, they just have to find something else to say
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: everyone's a sex offender in the states.
mircea_popescu: how many are there in total by now ? 1mn ? 10 mn ?
ben_vulpes: look at the boys trying to gently inculcate sense into her
mircea_popescu: that url scheme looks like it's channeling django the drupal dog.
ben_vulpes: <indiancandy1_> i dont get the wot thing mircea talkin about << righteous
brendafdez: Click on the dog, now click on want to change something, now...
mircea_popescu: looking at those pics... god almighty has the "visual" aka "graphical" interface been a dead fucking end omfg.
brendafdez: Well, my first computer was a Pentium 100 Mhz with 8 MB RAM that my parents bought in 1996, I stayed with that thing until 2005 or so. For many years that meant that I used DOS and Win3.11 daily bc W98 was too much for that piece of hardware. Once around 1999/2000 I borrowed from a friend a linux book which came with a Red Hat CD but dual booting was not an option (also the HDD was like 500 MB). It brings back memories seeing those in
trinque: brendafdez: here's another good one http://www.smartcomputing.com/images/smartcomputing/fullsize/393n1209.jpg
brendafdez: It was the Metro interface back in 1995
mircea_popescu: nothing more intense, interesting or functional than this much is allowed!!! it would be bad. THINK OF THE CHILDREN
BingoBoingo: Such is the peril of conflating a common interest into "community"
mircea_popescu: which, obviously, these "cms geeks^H^H^H^H bums do keep. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: putting dumb shit down is not about "your project". it's about your environment. you put shit down for the same reason you don't keep dirty textiles everywhere
mircea_popescu: You can feel good about our project without putting down other projects, so lets keep it clean. I said something similar << this, for the record, is fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: doubt anything but "why would anyone pay you to fuck up php, when php comes pre-fucked and if not indians will fuck it for 1/3 the price" opresses him.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah so the WordPress politeness is oppressing him.
gabriel_laddel: Regarding lesbians. The definitive work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0VmahBTkE
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh so a marginalized Romanian is being pissed on by an empowered evangalist of politeness for interacting with the world according to his culture.
brendafdez: mircea, in all honesty what wasn't working was life to the point I didn't want to go on (should've put an ad on gofundme but didn't occur to me). That was solved: social intereaction now is a whole different thing and it's much better. The fact that I still don't get to have the sex I like with the people I like is a minor issue compared to social interaction being broken as a whole.
BingoBoingo: ve given so many talks at WordCamps with a component about how its important to be nice, respectful, and welcoming including the use of appropriate language and imagery to the point that some people would really like to tell me to shut the fuck** up (or have!).
mircea_popescu: quite exactly mirroring the consumer computing market. "my windows computer doesn't fucking work" "switch to gentoo" "will it work then ?" "no, but maybe you like the icons better"
brendafdez: Anyway, I don't think claiming it and presenting female so as to x would be a good strategy at all, if you don't prefer it, you'll end up changing your mind, because it's hard to put up with all the attached issues to being perceived a woman if you were only doing it for a specific purpose
mircea_popescu: pretty decent part of a play or something this. "so if i become a woman will my sex work ?" "no, it still won't work" "So then ?" "well maybe you like it not working this way better."
brendafdez: I can't keep in memory every single article all the time
mircea_popescu: well maybe you miss the barn of a difference between "guy who is a girl because he prefers it" and "guy who claims to be a girl so as to [...]"
mircea_popescu: preferred in the impersonal ? who prefers it ?
brendafdez: dunno, wouldn't go back either, this state of 'it not working' is much preferred to the previous state of 'it not working'. By orders of magnitude.