nubbins`: how the fuck is someone supposed to parse this
nubbins`: nor a master of not encasing the entire page in <strong>
asciilifeform: he is not a master of the english language.
asciilifeform: i pasted in some of the highlights.
nubbins`: i couldn't be fucked to read another page of it
nubbins`: maybe there's truth in here?
asciilifeform: note that there is no public communique from harvart 'this fella never went here' (whether factual or not)
asciilifeform: the bells and gongs sticking out of that thing make it considerably less palatable, yes, which i suspect is the only reason sachs is still alive
nubbins`: which, on the face, is no more or less plausible than the understanding anyone else is operating under
nubbins`: anyway, i'm just poking fun of the chrome here
nubbins`: "Former USA resident who risked being tortured to death, attempting defence of human and Constitutional rights inside the United States, facing down terrorist gangster lawyers in a US courtroom, alone because US lawyers cower in fear before bribed US judges;"
asciilifeform: and sachs gives testable hypotheses
asciilifeform: nubbins`: there are far more tedious and less apparently factual 'seekers' who get considerably more attention
nubbins`: (what's up with the CV as a footnote?)
nubbins`: Very respectfully yours, Dr Les (Leslie - Leszek) Sachs - Scholar of the history of law and religion, with 7 earned academic degrees from 3 universities, the first two from Harvard University, alongside many US leaders;
nubbins`: FWIW it's not the sort of thing that needs to poll just yet
nubbins`: the key itself is old, i just reg'd it with assbot 15 mins ago
jurov: haven't you just created the key?
nubbins`: if *that* doesn't show up, either we gotta wait for key list to refresh or there's some other strange
nubbins`: i sent it from the wrong account
gribble: The operation succeeded.
nubbins`: i *just* registered the key with assbot
nubbins`: like i said earlier, these steps should be relatively impervious to future code changes
nubbins`: mod6 i can just dump clearsigned text into the body, yes?
nubbins`: while ostensibly pink eye has business using a gpg key around these parts, it's hard for me to justify "signing foundation code releases" as a relevant business activity
asciilifeform: (not that there is anything necessarily wrong with this)
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> the one i use here is, uh, not the one i should be signing foundation releases with << care to explain why ?
mod6: It'd be nice to have it in there anyway, signed by yourself. And then I can mention it in this months address as well.
mod6: well, so the saying goes :]
nubbins`: oh, sure. here's the thing tho
mod6: Hey nubbins`: if you're not signed up to the btc-dev list, now is not a horrible time. You wouldn't mind sending your OSX steps there (in a clearsigned message) would you?
asciilifeform: and countless other 'schneierisms.'
asciilifeform: ('redphone', 'blackphone', and 1001 other pieces of rubbish)
asciilifeform: sachs does -not- mention it, but the folks in #b-a know well, that it also created a vast and thriving market of faux 'security' paraphernalia.
asciilifeform: mainly to create a usg-controlled 'muppet hero' who will lead actual leakers to their deaths
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'll summarize for the impatient. according to sachs, snowden heap was lifted. but under cia (his original and actual employer) direction. and then carefully selected.
asciilifeform: and that details of -specific- compromises, clearly apparent from context in some of the docs, were scrubbed
nubbins`: anyway, you're correct in that nothing leaked was particularly damaging to the lizards
asciilifeform: it shuffled in and was permitted to spread, to lend credibility to the rest of the pile.
asciilifeform: recall that the nsa devices catalogue was -not- a snowden leak
asciilifeform: that is, why not a single one of the 'leaks' actually damaged any tangible lizard interest
asciilifeform: and fits the known facts more tightly than anything else i've encountered
nubbins`: "I am a Harvard classmate of top US leaders" the wankery is strong with this one
asciilifeform: 'Assange and Snowden are cold or actively insulting and hostile to real dissidents. For example, Assange grossly insults anyone who does not believe the absurd US gov story about 11 Sep 2001 - which no serious person believes. Assange insults the thousands of architects, engineers, US military and intelligence veterans, who continually describe how the 'official story' is a fraud. '
asciilifeform: 'As they say, 'you cannot make these things up', the Americans are so ridiculously obvious as they conduct criminal deceptions. The CIA's 'Watergate' scheme to destroy Richard Nixon 40 years ago, was so successfully with the fake 'brave reporter' Woodward, that the CIA even decided to use Woodward's junior partner as a fake 'brave reporter' along with Greenwald in 'Operation Fake Dissident Snowden'.'
asciilifeform: not here, either
nubbins`: because the pipe coming into your house is slower
nubbins`: who cares what the router speed is if you're going ad-hoc?
nubbins`: in fact, i don't, but i kinda think that's not what the guy meant to say
nubbins`: "But Wi-Fi hotspots can't deliver wireless connection speeds any faster than the incoming wired connection from your cable or other ISP (Internet service provider); top theoretical AC router speeds are only available in a direct computer-to-computer wireless connections, which you'll never do."
Vexual: dont they tho
nubbins`: the stout prefers gent journeys
Vexual: the journey prefers stout gents
asciilifeform: 'After making public revelations critical of US policies, former CIA director William Colby was himself found dead in 1996 from a laughably improbable 'canoe accident'. US Congressman Wayne Owens was found dead in Israel in 2002 while investigating US corruption connections.' << 'best news is the history you didn't know' (mircea_popescu?)
asciilifeform: 'The laughable CIA story we are asked to swallow, is that the US regime is doing zero against Omidyar, despite his being the 'owner' of 'tens of thousands' of 'Snowden stolen espionage documents'. When of course if 'Snowden' was not a CIA operation, all American hell would be loose against Omidyar, Greenwald and the rest, targeting their assets and persons on US territory.'
Vexual is on the good wine
asciilifeform: the manufacturer ?
asciilifeform: i was half-expecting that my 10 would exhaust the supply
nubbins`: not sure what the guy's sweet spot is
asciilifeform: i wonder how many one could get at the list price
nubbins`: with them? Are you just wanting to resell them or modify them or something else? Please feel free to make me an offer on a minimum of 1000 units or an offer for all 3000 units if that would interest you. I look forward to hearing from you soon!
nubbins`: Hello. Thanks for your email. We were selling these consistently at $30-$35. The price seems to fluctuate on these overtime.I know that many people are modifying them for other things so I know there is a very strong market for them. We have about 3000 of these left at this point.I would be willing to sell a minimum of 1000 units but would be more interested in selling all 3000 that I have left. Can you tell me what you're wanting to do
asciilifeform: it's only a 'struggle' if they're both still moving.
asciilifeform: though 'war' is very much the wrong term, just as 'fight' is not a correct word for what happens between the corresponding two types of kid in the playground
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:52:42; mircea_popescu: if you decide to fuck whomint, where the fuck is harry poter fanfic boy going to find money to pay for his groceries ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1043648 << thread where mircea_popescu illuminates the war between cia and nsa
asciilifeform: and if 'the real snowden' ever stood up to refute the 'fake' - i never heard of such.
asciilifeform: was i the only one here who actually read (for a time) mr s's (purported) www output (e.g., 'twitter', etc) ?
asciilifeform: 'The CIA-Snowden fraud was, to a degree, a semi-brilliant scam, even though it is now falling apart. On the surface, it seems anyone talking about these awful NSA activities 'must be genuine' - Few people considered what else Snowden was saying. When he moves out of an extremely narrow channel of CIA-scripted 'NSA revelations', Snowden's agenda is to be a slimy, sleazy salesman...'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000050.html << as i wrote here
nubbins`: consider the above q modified to make sense
nubbins`: asciilifeform must i gunzip turdel then tftp 0x800000 filename.gz?
assbot: The murder of US journalist David Rosenbaum, as he investigated corrupt US judges - questions remain ... ( http://bit.ly/1HLnD6W )
Vexual: did i have aplan for some moon or other?
asciilifeform: Vexual: i also did not see the latest gas vortex on jupiter.
Vexual: you see the latest hip hop moving to spotify only
assbot: Indymedia NL (The Netherlands) - EU Report, Google Inc. Anti-Competition Crimes & Deception ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bs8rDx )
asciilifeform: https://www.indymedia.nl/en/2011/07/77181.shtml << more or less the only other mention i was able to find of him.
asciilifeform: seems like somebody worked overtime to replace most of these with a set of 'benign' 'he's a nutter' results
asciilifeform: but the notification itself was removed.
asciilifeform: anyway this should be enough lure for everybody. mega-lulzy tirade. if chumpatronic, it is of top quality and i take off my hat to the chumpatronicist.
asciilifeform: 'The two richest men in America, my Harvard classmate Bill Gates whom I met as a boy, and Warren Buffett, were both quite threatened when they were acting too independently of America's ruling consensus. Legal action - by America's bribed, extorted judges and regulators - menaced them both. As each backed down and became more submissive to US policies, the threatened legal and regulatory actions against them evaporated.'
Vexual: pretty sure brazillians are de rigieur and we wont see another bush'
asciilifeform: ity. The central role of the US judge-lawyer mafia, is the reason over 1 million Americans have become lawyers in what is the developed world's most abusive, corrupt legal system. Though many American lawyers are now unemployed or low-income, they often became lawyers in the first place, because they hoped for at least a junior role in the US courtroom mafia, with a licence to steal the wealth of others.'
asciilifeform: 'The American cult of judicial corruption - central tool of America's 'Deep State' government mafia - is not well known, because experts on it - like myself - are 'erased' from internet searches, with US judges directly 'ordering' Google to censor evidence and journalism about their crimes. The world is instead deceived and fooled by the image of US courts in Hollywood movies and on Google search results - hiding the grim real
asciilifeform: many other stimulating tidbits.
asciilifeform: 'Carmen Ortiz is reminded that two other female prosecutors, Thelma Colbert and Shannon Ross, were both found dead after opposing Bush family interests. Ortiz is asked if she would like to be the 3rd dead female prosecutor.'
asciilifeform: 'Helping identify and destroy genuine US / UK / Nato leakers, duping them into trusting fake 'brave reporters' for Snowden (CIA-backed Greenwald, Guardian, NYT), then these media help CIA to silence, destroy, extort, kill any real whistleblowers - leakers - dissidents.'
asciilifeform: 'CIA-Wikipedia ("Every dumbf-ck in the world believes Wikipedia") - artificially pumped by CIA Google to top of search results, a 'Trojan horse' for inserting CIA lies and rubbish - see the EU police report on Wikipedia fundraising fraud...'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu << http://homment.com/3K3xdsYD7a << reads like nuttery at first, but all of the factual claims as far as i could verify are - factual... if you can't bring yourself to grind it, have someone do it
Vexual: seriously these yemenese will eat you
nubbins`: my other saab is a car
nubbins`: "That's odd: all 600+ new nodes came online with the user agent "/Satoshi:0.10.99/Gangnam Style:v4.01""
nubbins`: "With 1 Bitcoin and 650+ alternative coins each with their own symbol this new currency needs its symbol"
nubbins`: (also note the smaller characters above: two syllables, "suh"
nubbins`: changed the boot order to check the NAND first, and then stuffed a bunch of garbage into it
nubbins`: bricked the pogo, guess i'll need serial cable after all ;/
mike_c: part of the reason there are rough edges is that there are a lot of different products on mpex
mike_c: this is part of the reason though too. products come and go, with different features.
jurov: and dunno if you remember, there were daily interest payments in the beginning. without stat mention and at random times
jurov: except for x.eur balances vanishing in the middle of month (at least it's at known time) and reappearing any time later
jurov: and there were misc options.futures expirations
mike_c: i'm not trying to argue, was just trying to flesh out the issues. but i think we covered it.
jurov: davout isn't even daytrading... and took him fkn long time to get the bot right
mike_c: and i mean that from a business perspective, i'm sure some of them are perfectly pleasant people who just happen to think they are going to daytrade their way to stardom.
jurov: i can see even non-broker client wanting to avoid hairy state machine to accurately track the account for daytrading
mike_c: but i've never heard about problems like 'my bid didn't match the best offer'
mike_c: i've heard you talk about stuff like 'eventually consistent' and the statements missing some useful tracking features.
mike_c: you think the trading engine isn't solid? or security?
mike_c: and I think it's too bad because it's an exciting company. if they're never going to spend the money, maybe just special dividend it back to the shareholders.
mike_c: which is why some people who would rather have the cash themselves are willing to dump it at 90% of book value.
mike_c: davout: re s.mg. I think the problem there is that it is speculative whether they will be able to generate enough revenue to move the needle on the share price. so you might have your capital frozen in a stock that is basically valued as a pile of cash.
mike_c: of course, the options exchange was hardly closed without reason (including some that remained unspoken), so it's tough to bring it back.
mike_c: so without the options, where does mpex get revenue? it's an issue, and one that may be being reflected now in the stock price
mike_c: but, point being, these stocks are generally held by serious investors and aren't going to have huge turnover.
davout: i'd naively say you'd base a valuation on the cash assets?
mike_c: how do you trade in a company with no revenue and 10k bitcoin on the books?
mike_c: ^ 1% of bitbet has turned over in the last month. that seems "right" to me. s.mg is untradeable because it has so much coin.
jurov: but small investors that were caught there, talked about it
mike_c: people didn't brag/mourn about options trades either, and those were brutal
jurov: i know, being half serious.. but really, i remember from s.dice times half of the chan bragging(or mourning) about trades they did
mike_c: also, the 'announcement' was recent and the slide started some time ago. my guess is it has more to do with the drop in revenue than anything else, but mp and I have argued that before :)
jurov: but i hope that if mp was scammer, he'd have arranged the situation to not look so forlorn :D
jurov: supposedly everyone got their own deposit addy and nobody except me comes here to pester mircea for deposits/withdrawals
jurov: davout no cockpit, we just uncovered the fraud with kako
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu looks like someone has locked S.MPOE's cockpit from the inside!
davout: gotta make fun of the neckbeard pesos
assbot: Bitcoin Floundation Moves To Dilute The Bitcoin Brand : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/19TCzSE )
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/30d28r/bitcoin_floundation_moves_to_dilute_the_bitcoin/ jus' for fun
assbot: fluffyponyza comments on Almost 10% more full nodes since this morning connected to the network. Over 400 more in US. Is there some sort of competition I don't know of ? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xAZ4GA )
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1072204 << it has just as good a one as normal pc : ethernet board
Vexual: ohimjust here for the plonk data
felipelalli: Let me ask: about Bitcoin OTC WoT or Assbot, there is a public API where I can navigate in all database? Or just trough the irc commands? I want to make a "rank" similar to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/PageRanks-Example.svg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ this doesn't do anything unless your kernel looks for these numbers
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: do you remember how to toggle them ?
asciilifeform: it'll be most people's only interface to their nodes...
asciilifeform: this simply means the bicolor is on
asciilifeform: when all of this makes sense - i'll post the diff.
asciilifeform: because linux supports the nand just fine
asciilifeform: btw this is not what the proper kernel will look like
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the point of the console-over-netcat was strictly to be able to screw with u-boot (adjust boot device, etc.) without having the serial port
asciilifeform: barring any other peculiar surprises, we have a linux kernel that builds for pogo, and runs there
asciilifeform: as in, to the shell
asciilifeform: but that normally doesn't get you past the kernel jump-in
asciilifeform: i don't even flash these in, booting from lan
asciilifeform: i didn't change the uboot
asciilifeform: i just tested the nic
asciilifeform: i have no idea how anyone could have gotten the notion that this causes overheating
asciilifeform: so no reason to unplug the serial cable, ever
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: feel free to screw the box shut
asciilifeform: just sorta crushed it in there
asciilifeform: i didn't even drill the latter
asciilifeform: my serial cable goes right through the closed case
asciilifeform: obviously no bitcoind in there, yet
asciilifeform: same as i did for, well, the rest
nubbins`: who let the watchdog out ;/
asciilifeform: aha then
nubbins`: i just sent the liquidators a message, we'll see
nubbins`: people are still talking about the ussr 8)
nubbins`: probably no huge incentive for them to
mircea_popescu: cool, but meanwhoile the pellet seemed dudsy
asciilifeform: 'What is the cause of a corked wine? The culprit is usually one of two reasons, TCA, which is short for 2, 4,6 Trichloroanisole. TCA is a type of fungus that occurs naturally. Because TCA is a natural fungi present in the bark of the cork tree, it can be easily be taken into the cork.' << who wants to kill something after reading this
decimation: the impressive thing really is that the knowledgeable winemaker can bring out so many different flavors with just grapes, yeast, toasted oak, and time
decimation: cabernet sauvignon (one of the bordeaux grapes) often has a tobacco flavor for instance
mircea_popescu: srsly, vinegar, alcohol and sulphur dioxide in the same box ?
decimation: for folks who are dubious about the specifics, you can generally pick out particular flavors on the 'flavor wheel' like one shown here: http://www.thewinecellarinsider.com/wine-topics/wine-educational-questions/davis-aroma-wheel/
decimation: heh. of course many of those french vineyards were decimated by the phylloxera plague
nubbins`: the tit abides
mircea_popescu: the tit doth know.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, nubbins`. it'd be a lot better if the tit knew it's caged.
BingoBoingo: USia, seriously messed up in the things people expect, legally
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo or you could just pipe awk through sed << Hard on the phone.
BingoBoingo: But the shavers strategy seems to be only notable in the sense he pulled off a mega fraud in a space which at the time was especially gullible and vulnerable to mega fraud.
decimation: re: wine < yeah my perception is that > $10-15 is generally good. more expensive wines are also good, but there are loads of pretenders trying to get by on geography
BingoBoingo: Consider the example of a US bankruptcy case. You can cheaply and easily represent yourself if indigent, however you have to handle communications with all of the debtors, or... You scrape together enough to retain an attorney who has a process for handling that annoyance and also retain your sanity.
asciilifeform: and for the type of flying machine normally encountered, 'birdshot' ought to suffice
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:40:21; PeterL: sounds like a great new sport, like skeet shooting, but the target can move in any direction, just need to make a drone that is either so cheap it's disposable or which can withstand shotgun hits
asciilifeform: just to film it << the chinese filmed it recently
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but the usg (through usg->da) has already evaluated that
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> how exactly is this strat supposed to go : i couldn't make the "preponderence of evidence" standard but i'll make the "absolute proof" ? << That or make preponderance of evidence standard use as proof in criminal case
mircea_popescu: incredibly cheap, these clay footed giants.
mircea_popescu: "The average tip amount across all platforms is has fallen to ~$0.91, while the average tip amount on reddit is only ~$0.37
we can do better!"
mircea_popescu: how exactly is this strat supposed to go : i couldn't make the "preponderence of evidence" standard but i'll make the "absolute proof" ?
mircea_popescu: someone needs to tell him this civil-criminal thing is as close as it gets to double jeopardy in the us
asciilifeform: hell, in usa electronically setting off the shell is banned
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it occurs to me, that shavers character is like out of a novel. first he gets a civil supoena that he doens't ignore. then he self represents. and doesn't do homework. then he loses the suit. civil suit. he loses it. then he pleads not guilty in criminal proceedings.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, hunting from flight already soundly illegal.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1071949 << the importnat part there is the 2nd clause. im sure buncha idiot nerds were becoming a pain.
mircea_popescu: in the saner 17-18 yo middle, notmany.jpg
mircea_popescu: slavegirl either lost virginity around 15 or 20.
asciilifeform knows that it is not the same
asciilifeform: that item is now a 'rembrandt' and can be authenticated ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i say 'above recycled piss pricepoint' it means getting squarely above the 'for the poor' product category in usa
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:26:12; asciilifeform: decimation: when you get above the 'recycled piss' price point, i suspect the 'valuation' is 100% 'veblen good.'
asciilifeform: decimation: after 'wickard v. filburn', usg gained - perfectly legally - the power to regulate how many shits we may take per week
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it's supported in the kernel i'm testing
BingoBoingo: http://www.bnd.com/2015/03/25/3731341/highland-man-turns-salvaged-copper.html << Complimentary lol "My hands still have calluses from using No. 18 Weiss shear scissors to cut galvanized sheets to form gutters, he said. ...You couldnt afford a gutter today the way we made them.