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(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol notrly no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * is rpc removal essential?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rpc removal is essential?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what else do you want to do to the thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bubbles for stan!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as much as i'd like it gone, i'd also like something in the wild before the stoolies attempt to fork.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: arbeit macht frei
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ripping out is a grand idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know precisely when that was.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at some point calling bitcoind cli args started talking to the json rpc api
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: are you trying to get it off of your plate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: interdasting notion, but i'm taking like 3 things into production over the next month and can't handle the overhead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what could go wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: excel based routing tables
(trilema) ben_vulpes: der derp derp derp derp
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes for more coffee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: log as well which is kinda odd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: derpy consumer route? it's possible but...not likely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trilema dns still borkd for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "these kids have no idea what it meant to be gay even a decade ago!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if that's the case, they're not the same company at all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whatever you say, assbot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ziggamon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ziggamon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *shrug* i don't 'em as hot as you do i guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it's the same company, they've got one in every single customer dc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: impling "the" db
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hilarious technology choices
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: p. sure i know that company
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting, blockchain barfs on calculating transacted total
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rabble rabble rabble
(trilema) ben_vulpes: f9beb4d9.org ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: did you produce a blob of Satoshi's writings on the crypto mailing list?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> (did get gastritis tho) << http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cortisol+from%3Abenkay lol toldja
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> (did get gastritis tho) << http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cortisol+from%3Abenkay lol toldja
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re messages: ditch it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although log1's accessible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: log.bitcoin-assets.com dns also whacked for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns is wacky around here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;isup trilema.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once was not enough
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !down MosesEX
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just what i need while watching this ftp dump scroll by
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh god those jokes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> wow, building bitcoin on osx is actually a bit tangly << i for one gave up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: either buy in lot of 12 for 240 odd bucks, or get stuffed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dig this: my favorite mechanical pencil, the the PaperMate Logo II, is now basically unavailable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only find it funny once people start *losing* eyes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how am i supposed to read all these lines i didn't write?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah go fuck yourselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a charter to dream up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well gents you have a good one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why do dependopotamuses have sex in the water?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> kakobrekla no, just sayin', your guess is as good as sexyginger's << boss you got a funny memory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> o hey our resident child rapist also keeps charts << lulzy, what's the story on this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> answer to someones question earlier http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/versions.html << those colors.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but f-frictional losses?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how was the scent moving with your vehicles?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: silence and an absence of complaining ensued.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh my noes i can feel my brain wilting all the way over here! a scent of gasoline! in the warehouse we rent! we're all about to keel over!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * mircea_popescu kinda likes the smell of gasoline << various engineers went on red alert over a faint whiff of gasoline earlier today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ojo de bife y vino
(trilema) ben_vulpes: boats and cars aside i think i get the "computer enforcement of human language contract"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's too big a leap for my tiny brain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: insurance policy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: merchant and processor sign agreement that proceeds shall be divvied thusly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's try the wot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not savvy to this story.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was going for the wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes weeps in ignorance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the incentives are aligned! merchant and payment processor must agree to get anything out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, so my derpitude re: m/n aside, the thing has a stable solutino.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "either we agree, or nobody gets anything."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: both keys must sign for outputs to be valid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what if there's no third?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, thy enlightenment please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mind you, this is a pure-btc play.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funds sent to M/N address, both merchant and payment solution provider must agree upon processor fee and merchant share to disburse funds to each.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: our solution: one of the few actual uses for M/N signatures.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: i was derping with a colleague about btc payment processing recently. the topic: how to ensure the payment processor (he who tells the taco-delivery mechanism to release tacos) gets paid?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: welcome to my hell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wallets should be built atop bitcoind or equivalent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: a fantastic idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is the bitcoinating? the part that attaches to the network, downloads and verifies the blockchain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> decimation: bitcoind begs to be split into at least 3 programs << of which only 1 is necessary ! << for the record, what are the three and which the one?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: signed patches will released.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there will be a base.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think then this discussion is settled.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: staaaahp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no db necessary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <undata> anyhow, horse is starting to stink << what is this a reference to?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but for releases, history of changes to bitcoin x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's not a problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: git can be used for development
(trilema) ben_vulpes: name of the game being dependency minimization.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: base plus patchlist?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> forsaking version control systems entirely! << i cannot conscience this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was someone hosting some git repos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> bitcoin x << ah, this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've never written a charter, are there good examples out there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's fine and great i mean to say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh amenable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6, othernubs`: i'm behind on logs, but this is amenable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it initially ended with :=0/d so as to rip the relevant line out. that'll still work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice! care to share?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: create an address and send coins to it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the use case there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: othernubs`: i'm not even sold on importprivkey
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at this point i'm running the node stock to see what happens
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Apocalyptic: indeed. piles of work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still caffinating can't keep up already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Apocalyptic: semantics indeed, but not the reddit-style attempted-argument-ender kind. rather the important kind that conveys significance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: plenty of sense. i was a little startled to see that your debian dist didn't come with sudo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Apocalyptic: i have to clear up that it's not a *commit* summary but a changelog summary.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didja get it running eventually?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thoughts for bed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how though to reconcile noise suppression with -asset logreading...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: taleb's really on to something with his noise suppression routine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had to get scamsniped AGAIN.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i *was* being productive and booting historical versions of bitcoin to run locally.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well it's cost the future one night of my time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're shitbanned
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck you medium
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who nerdsniped me with the etherscam again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay who did this to me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: A REASONABLY AFFORDABLE POSSIBLITY
(trilema) ben_vulpes: using their considerable expertise in implementing a just-in-time (JIT) compiled version of the Ethereum virtual machine and making computationally-complex contracts a reasonably affordable possibility
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat keyfob i guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus a screwdriver. maybe.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks like i could get it open in about a minute with a decent vise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fluffypony: now there's an interesting thing to put up someone's pooper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://rajensanghvi.com/ << fuck yeah default wpengine template
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my brain's calling it quit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i want to see the power draw of the btc network.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not that novel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically to drive miners out, drop large amounts of hashpower to rewrite blockchain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm too tired and too deep in unix horseshit to know what to say about ether anymore
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol i wish i had that kind of budget
(trilema) ben_vulpes: full time you say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'cept for the rapier betwixt yer ribs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nothing personal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i can read java and stuff, but can't handle cli programs"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a pretty funny self-indictment of javaland if you don't mind my saying so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you make the baby satoshi cry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bawww really RagnarDanneskjol ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a forging of some kind. trial by fire.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gangster-rapper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should la serenissima publish a torrent?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this has been educational indeed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: provided set_lk_max_locks type configs are in place?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but if you supply the entire datadir, you can boot one install with another's blockchain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm thinking in terms of bits on disk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so every blockchain could be a snowflake.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although if you'd be willing to share your tarball and a version number against which i could build that might show some interesting things on a block-by-block diffing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not concerned about the speed nearly as much as i am the thing working correctly with the network.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm precisely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i agree, yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: none that can't wait for the morrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, first words in -assets as proxy for initial blockchain dl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mircea_popescu&start=5000 << mthreat wouldja be so kind as to expand how far back the search goes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite likely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: check my arrival date in -assets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your book, sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely it's not that easy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: $ cp ~/.bitcoin ~/.bitcoin-test && ./ancient-bitcoind -datadir ~/.bitcoin-test ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> 0.5.6rc3 works << enhanced sync speed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is where docker starts coming in handy: instead of burning many hours on chasing down platform and architecture details to get the thing to work on os x, i'm leaning towards just running 0.5.3 in a VM.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i also think that building on os x is a bad idea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am considering bisecting the codebase for building on os x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just curious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ain't picking up shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what in place of bdb?
(trilema) ben_vulpes digs spare hdd out of closet for aux blockchain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slow sync, myriad crapolade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going for 0.5.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what release are you targeting?
(trilema) ben_vulpes tries it again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ALSO STILL VULNERABLE TO SHELLSHOCK
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another reason this damn platform's doomed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: getting command line functionality on os x has been a headache every time i tried it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also also also also
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins i was just opining
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wallet retardation gets cut or reimplemented non retardedly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: molding bullets...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: which deps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ergo, qt. at first, at least.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but when you're taught that the right solution to all problems is to do it by hand, with the tools handed one by authority, unlearning that is hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: constraint problems, too?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i: solved quadratics by hand because programming solvers was taught to me to be cheating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you: grew up on lisp machine lore
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, consider all the things i've been unlearning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i don't see any roadblocks at this time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i still depend on the qt client. need to come up with a workflow that works for the 0.5.3 client.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm transitioning backwards asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> anyway, the consensus seems to be 6.3 ? << i've yet to hear a compelling argument for anything past 0.5.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although let's be clear, i was just browsing the release notes. if there were breaking changes merged in since then, this'd be a lulzy way to surface them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <othernubs`> ben_vulpes, speaketh << nothing strictly necessary post 0.5.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i'll take free credit for no work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hussling? is this some odd mix of hassling and hustling?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: functional inputs vastly more important though
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