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(trilema) ben_vulpes: (just trolling - all the paupers have to)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell princesnell https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/10/blocksize-economics/ << what, you're collaborating with the empire nao?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which has got to be the most orwellianly named product out there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i used it for time tracking before we started using harvest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: why do you ask?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as in p2p messages exceed 32mb in practice?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: side note about the 32mb number: andresen claims that as the largest message that can be sent in a single bitcoin p2p message.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fairly frequently, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: integration with grep, ag, and the kill-ring visualization are pretty fantastic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hang on a sec
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuzzy completion in all of the places in which one'd want it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: are you familiar with ido?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: terminal kill ring, incomplete backwards-kill, os paste holder
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i finally got helm dialed in (and oh my god, i didn't know that emacs could get that much better
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it's on the roadmap for 2015
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to set it up myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: konqueror
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pardon sir, a typo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't run with a wallet in pruned mode?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is the actual serious problem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this "pruned blockchain" notion sounds dangerous.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: did you hear back from Conformal about the machines they used to come to their 32MB steady-state conclusion?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no venture investment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bad search as a service
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s bitcoin dark secret
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: i'm using debian.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: debian and gentoo seem to be the choices.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> ben_vulpes: did you manage to compile your package on osx? << not even trying. i set up a virtualized debian toolchain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: vermin supreme!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mailing list that accepts messages from assbot's l2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but tis but a guess and that guess from me, and discounts should be applied heavily.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: few things are certain even to those capable of reasoning about them. i must fumble in the dark making guesses. my guess though, is that some parts of it work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it does what it says on the tin, i find it a vastly more palatable meal than say a dollar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a miserable, beautiful turd.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's at least an example of the desired process.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does UPNP removal count as a cosmetic change?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: best to do it correctly, though. and binaries are not my concern - source is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/rm_rf_upnp.tar.gz << i believe this excises all upnp mentions. my build hops on the network and downloads blocks.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: watch that turn out to be an aws maxi-sized VPS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the stats of this "one machine"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd like to have a thing that built a patch; booted the resulting artifact on testnet, mined some TN coins, sent them to itself, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely there's more rigor possible than this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i build the thing, and then boot it, and if getblockcount increments under my eye - it passes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is kind of terrifying.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: test_bitcoin.cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would like to run tests, write tests, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have zero familiarity with the c ecosystem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the test-bitcoin line in makefile.unix - is that where i should look for running tests?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're the literate one...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whence the k tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does "tree" entail "contrib" as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org",
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: to digress, what's the rationale behind keeping makefile.linux-mingw?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: responses to patch thread with sigs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> jurov: also at some point we ought to have people sign off on others' patches, once they read << would a new tarball with sig attached suffice?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wherever's clever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't matter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if only mircea_popescu were still giving away domains...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps too obscure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the network magic bytes for mainnet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: i'd love to see it at f9beb4d9.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/rm_rf_upnp.tar.gz << am i doing it correctly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: too intense?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: few automated services need to send btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: build time down to a minute.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, not really in the scope.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: talk to the binary running on the machine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: 'twould be nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i doubt it, but who can ever tell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: tooling question: when working on the actual c files, should i be working in a parallel directory and then diff -uNr original_dir my_dir > patch.diff?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'competence'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am now squarely out of competence zone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: next step is to coerce 'git' into pooping out sane patch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up nubbins`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: builds, runs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: spitoon, rather.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i and boys slave in golden cage, fabbing golden toilets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> decadent rich << describes clients and their target customers quite well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mocking paupers :(
(trilema) ben_vulpes: turds in turds on turds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm running it in a debian vm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a narrow hair from "just one more bag - it'll be fine."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "let me fly the plane! i've got like 20 sim hours!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wrote my own patch ripping out upnp dependency, build is now taking forever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: building.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: you're welcome.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Mikayla> I've had to walk to buy electricity at night once << bwaaat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was very tired when i wrote that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in retrospect that should be "ether distribution"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sandworm or god emperor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google fuck you i'm a dragon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways that's it for me tonight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no comment necessary, simply sharing lulz.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Bugpowder: on the topic of bezzlenomics, i'm amused that you have a small grant, lab, equipment and...porsche.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin anything on anything one owns - big advertisement for rectothermal cryptanalysts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b) "lol plate ams left justified cuz i generate keys wasted"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) "hai plz foar ams to rob me"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Bugpowder> left justified plate. FML << typical bitcoiner
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haha oh man ripped up one side and down t' other
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <PinkPosixPXE> re QR codes and exposing privkeys to the atmosphere: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/miller-s-lesson-guard-your-bitcoin-qr-code-1y5Uj8foQu~3Gn_qKclleQ.html << "never show anyone your public key" ya mhm bloomberg killing it again and again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah but wait qr libs aren't in the script on ch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: but why qr codes? << libqrencode-dev was a mistake; holdover from my experiments with 6.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but -- friday night, now stealing time away from familial sabbath drinking party to irc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moving slowly, endeavoring to grok and verify each and every stemp.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: tried building the turd from earlier? << got started, ran out of bandwidth in dive bar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, no bw here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where are you reading that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;calc 4 / [ticker --last]
(trilema) ben_vulpes is reading first
(trilema) ben_vulpes: emergency asciilifeform gravity escape device
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it doesn't help, but not having the intake hole hurts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: primes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's not pretend anyone actually cares.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and to have a contingency plan for that happening
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the point is to provide the opportunity for btc to flow in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's no goal for the hoard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll just sit here and have the culture attached in my lap please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chair duties
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would burn again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: soldering porn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mpex's paid enough to the worthy ladies already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, negligible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or a zero payout to treasurer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: errant apostrophe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: treasurer's duty's to audit the booty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wed the banging whores?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're in the big zone mike_c :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nfi really either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: herd cats, write spec?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty please?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well there are no plans for expenditures on the table atm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if there are donations, someone must be responsible for said donations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 and i are states-based.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ...to the forum
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov and i bring a pm regarding treasury duties for a theoretical -assets foundation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's today's panic, MosesEX
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people committing binaries are also using Github or other tools that paper over the horror.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: along with database passwords
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh no, they commit them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "diff and patch can't handle binaries. so don't commit them, duh."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "don't commit binaries to VCS!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no asciilifeform you've got it all wrong!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is a in this context? 0.5.3?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assume no qt?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: command line hell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: documentation for diffutils suggests --exclude or -x (pattern)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the binaries
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do they have common suffixes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diffing whole trees?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no site no css no problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure that's a slice less complexity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov's list at least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: f9beb4d9.org << btw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns, hosting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 's what i said.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well then the thing wants a treasurer as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if there's a budget, something can be said about it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: charter first, budget later
(trilema) ben_vulpes jumps and chortles in glee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: why, PR for mpex!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or make mistakes get burned and learn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm pretty sure i only ever claimed to fuck around with the tools in us 'college'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was he one of those "cryptographers" who run on windows?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody's going to complain, Mikayla ;)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: live cd/usb, boot regular device in "silent" mode, print stuff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thermal printing's durable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a pretty funny conversation given the previous conversations about noobs and bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: also illusory and elusive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and watch addrs, not wallets.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: watch wallets on blockchain.info
(trilema) ben_vulpes: win32 stuff isn't necessary to run the thing under cygwin, correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: avg user should throw down 200 dollars for a netbook and fucking run unix.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a *tool* for people who *use tools*, not consumers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if qt's nixed, the average user's nixed as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gets the fuck out of bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the average windows user shuts the fuck up and uses unix.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways. is bitcoin not here to also end m$?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he wants it to build on mac s/e as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo if memory serves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why even bother with windows?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds like a decision to me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well asciilifeform if you're willing to perform the surgery do it. otherwise, it'll have to wait right?
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