trinque: it'd probably result in a power struggle with the congress trying to mandate certain shitty programs remain operational
trinque: there's a vast bureaucracy he could shut down in a day, yes
mircea_popescu: trinque president can actually fire the entire government. and, logically, any serious president would have to.
BingoBoingo: Rand Paul walks awfully close to the traditional "neo-conservative' line
pete_dushenski: fair enough, there's huge bureaucratic momentum, but i'll definitely have some popcorn at the ready for the 2016 run
trinque: I suppose he could send the executive branch on extended vacation
trinque: had his father been elected, the whole rest of the govt would've obstructed any substantial changes he'd want to make, so I don't know what good would've come of it
trinque: pete_dushenski: it will be interesting to watch what happens there, if anything
punkman: "continue helping on a volunteer basis to help the Foundation during this financially austere time." << austerity strikes again
pete_dushenski: the nation’s food supply." "
pete_dushenski: "At various points in the budgets, [Rand] Paul questions the constitutionality of progressive income taxes, eliminates almost all federal education and housing programs, ends the biggest anti-poverty tax credits, eliminates foreign aid, institutes large defense cuts, slashes the State Department budget by more than two-thirds, and cuts the Food and Drug Administration budget to limit government "intrusion into
pete_dushenski: "whatcha doing, honey, plotting launch trajectories?" "just chatting with the boys"
pete_dushenski: imagine those in your study, with custom ducting to the outside, just awhirin' away
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, these are potential hot rods
BingoBoingo: Or for half the price http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-DS15-Alpha-Server-2-4-1000MHZ-w-4GB-RAM-IN-A-GOOD-CONDITION-/121333466602?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4009c5ea
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Look for the ones listed with an extra figure or two in their price to this day
pete_dushenski: mebbe the 12-core mac pro, booted with danielpbarron's openbsd hack, will be our "muscle computer" in 30 years
pete_dushenski: ^*it's NOT the former qb...
mats: ascii_field: there's a decent amount of work done with afl to enable black box testing
pete_dushenski: given that the sportier metal goes for $100k+, it's the former qb of the football team buying it
pete_dushenski: well, the ones who didn't are now buying the cars to reimagine themselves as the ones who did!
mircea_popescu: i doubt they actually did it in muscle cars.
pete_dushenski: buying muscle cars because that's where the fun was!
pete_dushenski: that makes the vagina like an old man with a mid- or late-life crisis
pete_dushenski: there's no shortage of african gents here, ones crafty enough to game their way over the border, none of whom seem to be knocking up any girlfriends of mine
mircea_popescu: the sea has a +penis effect.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu terribru for the chinese? does chinese woman really desire random african suitor?
mircea_popescu: shoulda put hearse in there too i guess.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the whores that go hoarse don't go back, no.
ascii_field: and of which is there more.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: do the ones who 'go' horse - ever 'go back' ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski terribru for them. chinese women that go black definitely won't go back.
pete_dushenski: for the chinese mainly
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: they live on reservations with no locals permitted, iirc
ascii_field: something rather different than mr o's concept
mircea_popescu: best thing that could happen to the us is force every citizen under 18 to live a year in africa.
mircea_popescu: but the "aid army" w/e it was called never took off.
mircea_popescu: if it were doing that it'd bring back the draft.
mircea_popescu: except the us is not particularly hierarchical, and it has no surplus of anything.
ascii_field: 'The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely
mircea_popescu: im just proposing that people don't cook like they're carving figurines.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes sorta like why is the golden ratio so golden ?
ascii_field: i can also tell that the work of mircea_popescu is not ever i/o bound.
ben_vulpes: yes but whence the 1cm number -- whence!?
mircea_popescu: the specifics vary, but the red thread always is, "the thing works fine, the less you fuck with it the longer you'll enjoy it."
pete_dushenski: a family physician i know also recommended looking at least 20 ft away from the screen every 20 mins to allow eyes to relax
mircea_popescu: the body is complex, the brain the most complex part, and the circuitry that drives vision the most complex of that. let it work rather than try to be smarter than it on fewer neurons.
ascii_field: the tool which mats linked to requires having source, yes
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not these jobs. these jobs are about the narrative in the "worker's" head.
mircea_popescu: for the record, this seems to me disqualifyingly dumb.
mircea_popescu: "Heartbleed is a read buffer overflow. What that means is that an application is reading outside the boundaries of a buffer. For example, imagine an application has a space in memory that's 10 bytes long. If the software tries to read 20 bytes from that buffer, you have a read buffer overflow."
ascii_field: the difference is, as al schwartz phrased it, 'does your assembly line require phds? if yes, your firm is doomed'
mircea_popescu: i suppose this may be the issue, i classify culturally, ie, by the beast's mental excrement. ascii_field you prolly classify by some sort of "what the job is". as if jobs actually are about something.
mircea_popescu: the "spam farms" and the monkey-on-a-stick farms where microsoft code is actuallywritten, and this stuff... really, what's the difference ?
jurov: "i was told in no uncertain terms that there were no females" was about which occupation then?
mircea_popescu: "Court records say the laughing men initially tried to use a broomstick for the deed, which was videotaped on a cell phone. But then one of them said, I have something better and retrieved a chorizo sausage from the stations refrigerator, the records say."
ascii_field: but there are productive approaches that don't reduce to pure brute strength
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 20:07:39; ben_vulpes: my goal is primarily to cram as much text on the screen as possible before losing structure or wordshape
mircea_popescu: there's nothing fuzzy about a numeric machine.
mircea_popescu: testament to over there illiteracy.
mircea_popescu: the thing where you use scripts is bruteforce i guess. ripper-it
mircea_popescu: but i say the pigs make ham. as that one butcher observed, "i only follow the lines already there"
ascii_field: the qa meat robots determine 'yes it crashes if you feed it an odd number of letters in the address field' etc
mircea_popescu: oh, then yes we were thinking of very different things.
ascii_field: if it's one that includes gurlz to any detectable extent, then almost certainly
mircea_popescu: they make a salary.
ascii_field: for what it's worth, my hypothesis for the maleness of the profession is that it is the very epitome of greenspun's tournamentmarket
mircea_popescu: yeah but you need to know / learn a shitload more to do this than to wipe the table / put the pin in the hole.
ascii_field: the pick-n-place argument, yes
mircea_popescu: the argument i always hear is, "dudes have no focus and can't be trusted to pay the fuck attention"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: let's phrase it this way - my circle 3 degrees out includes perhaps a thousand such slaves, and i was told in no uncertain terms that there were no females.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field why would you ever meet them ?!
ascii_field: i have yet to meet, or even hear of, any females in that business other than the two or three world-famous ones
ascii_field: but between looking for 0days and these two items - yes, difference
mircea_popescu: at the level we're discussing here, there's really no difference between working as " gawker vp of pr" or working as "candi19874 on myfreewebcams". srsly.
mircea_popescu: the sortage is generally, "whether she thinks she's pretty", "whether she thinks she's smart"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there are quite likely more women in the deep-water oceanic oil prospecting industry than in vuln digging
mircea_popescu: one is working the pick-n-placers. the other's working the masturbatrons. the third's you know, "using her head", as in, this fuzzer, that fuzzer...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there's exactly three things a woman can do with herself that doesn't work as the housemaid of a dude.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 19:00:57; ascii_field: mats: ... similar gig as you, i imagine: working for 'the man' in compartmentalized ops, churning out weaponized exploits and such. << believe or not, i was never in this business. not even from ethical considerations, but starting with the fact that it is a -terrifyingly- dreary kind of work, carried out largely with brute force 'fuzzing' by gigantic stables of fungible slaves.
mircea_popescu: not everything fits the same way.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> the loss in physical plant would be comparable to a world war << actually, not anymore. the us has already lost so much physical plant since the 50s it might have been through half a dozen world wars.
mircea_popescu: then the outline showed up. "the change will be introduced in phases. for the first five years, only trucks and vehicles over 5 tons will switch to driving on right"
mircea_popescu: the brits were pretty scared.
mircea_popescu: the police dept of bumfuck offered to write a plan and outline strategy and everything.
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of a joke : when they entered the eu, the romanians starting bidding on all sorts of contracts. like for instance, a 1947 british rfq to move the country to european style driving.
funkenstein_: slug-feet is is then
mircea_popescu: yeah, these aren't things people can actually do.
ascii_field: the loss in physical plant would be comparable to a world war
funkenstein_: request for new tools went back up the command chain.. end of that attempt
funkenstein_: think of their peculiar system of weights and measures <-- nasa made official call to move to metric system once
ascii_field: especially fun to watch folks suggest nonsensical explanations for the effect
mircea_popescu: dude there was a light like that on the road out of timisoara, he was the lol of all time. we'd like visit to make fun.
ascii_field: (light from adjacent poles falls on you, reflected back to photocell on the light in question)
ascii_field: street lamps where i live often suffer from a peculiar glitch where they switch -off- if someone walks near
mircea_popescu: nevermind that the rapes that do happen happen in parking garages not lots.
mircea_popescu: they got it in their head that "parking lots are dangerous" because "women get raped" because hey, it's a literary conventions, and nobody can accuse us writers of not being lazy.
mircea_popescu: you should see the us lmao.
funkenstein_: maybe people will finally turn off the lights
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with authority.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: power grids as we know them are an inherently totalitarian institution
mircea_popescu: you're thinking of govt as this fixed item. it is the least fixed item of all.
mircea_popescu: cheaper for miners to cut the head of the governments in question than to create alt-powergrid.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: one thought that i can't possibly be the first to think is that miners have a tremendous incentive to get off their government mains grids.
mircea_popescu: so the fact that giancarlo milanese can ask for a 380v line today and have it working in may whereas joe washington can't even get it... well...
mircea_popescu: think : in the coming economy, the ability to easily get good clean power in the 10 to 100kw range of european towns is going to weigh very heavily
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: think of their peculiar system of weights and measures
mircea_popescu: you know... the more i think of this the more it appears a major strategic problem for the us. larger than fucking isis, larger than the chinese fmi, larger even than their inability to maintain railroad infrastructure.
ascii_field: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/off-goes-the-power-current-started-by-thomas-edison/?_r=0 << edison dc grid turned off in '07 !
ascii_field: think of the 'l337 job creation'
ascii_field: it is a marvel that they didn't stick with edison's direct current grid
mircea_popescu: the 120 volt choice was a bad idea.
ascii_field: early to the game - does not translate to 'better', when the result is massive antiquated crud everywhere, that no one contemplates replacing because $maxint
mircea_popescu: allthewrongchoices.jpg
ascii_field: 120v (america) also entails 2x the current for given wattage, on the low transformer end
ascii_field: the type of habitation traditional in american suburbs makes civilized power distribution astronomically expensive
mircea_popescu: yeah, because why make the 100kv transformers weigh 180 tons. make them 24 and then fuck up the entire power supply.
ascii_field: to the point that it was a given that a tv set would have a 'stabilizator' underneath, buzzing steadily
mircea_popescu: yeah well, probably because they're running on obsolete romanian transformers
mircea_popescu: spikes used to be reasonably frequent in the 80s in ro. but not major spikes, just, 5-10% sort of things. but then they upgraded the infrastructure and it no longer relies on its own inductance
ascii_field: generator does nothing against these
mircea_popescu: i've seen neither of those. ever.
mircea_popescu: i saw ONE power outage in a year, which was most likely the building bus being old.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: not only do they happen where i live, but with sufficient frequency that i'm stuck using very elaborate power conditioning gear << you and fucking indians, i swear.
ben_vulpes: what I *really* want, though, is not even a desk but 2 six-axis arms that keep my keyboard and monitors in the appropriate ergonomic relationship.
ben_vulpes: there's a van with a setup akin to that first link in Snow Crash of which i was always enamore.d
trinque: http://www.greenpeace.org/seasia/ph/Global/seasia/image/2005/9/stack_of_monitors.jpg << hah there you go ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: my goal is primarily to cram as much text on the screen as possible before losing structure or wordshape
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it's a bit more complex than that. fontsize is nearly irrelevant, as i parse visually first by the structure of the code and then by wordshape. mispellings are rare, due to backround jobs that compile/evaluate text buffers on save and linters that have rules about symbol definition.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well there's two solutions to your problem. Optometrics or Moar fontsize.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 19:28:16; BingoBoingo: http://rt.com/uk/247529-bitcoin-exchange-opening-britain/ << "Bitcoin has had shaky beginnings with big Bitcoin exchanges like Mt Gov suffering huge thefts."
ben_vulpes: "wheels have had a shaky beginning - several have fallen over when their rotational inertia dropped below critical stability thresholds or ran into other unforseen obstacles."
BingoBoingo: http://rt.com/uk/247529-bitcoin-exchange-opening-britain/ << "Bitcoin has had shaky beginnings with big Bitcoin exchanges like Mt Gov suffering huge thefts."
chetty: well as I heard the power went out in 'useful' places, the white house,the state department ... :D
ascii_field: (for n00bz: the subcontractors which do most of the practical 'usg-ing' are headquartered largely in north virginia, and have massive backup power and other every other conceivable luxury, large and small, on the grounds.)
ascii_field: mats: ... similar gig as you, i imagine: working for 'the man' in compartmentalized ops, churning out weaponized exploits and such. << believe or not, i was never in this business. not even from ethical considerations, but starting with the fact that it is a -terrifyingly- dreary kind of work, carried out largely with brute force 'fuzzing' by gigantic stables of fungible slaves.
ascii_field: (-not- the elected muppets, for one thing)
ascii_field: it also shows where the -actual- usg priorities are
ascii_field: the kind of thing that dying empire cannot really hide for long
chetty: well with the greenies shutting down power plants all over its only gonna get worse
ascii_field: before that, a dynasty of ordinary ups, which tripped so often that they frequently died
ascii_field: it is quite unusual there.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: not only do they happen where i live, but with sufficient frequency that i'm stuck using very elaborate power conditioning gear
ben_vulpes: dc really is the center of all american rot, isn't it?
lobbes: 'The power went out during the daily State Department briefing, with Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf using a phone light to continue taking questions from reporters.' << heh
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:hm, when a motherboard comes on when the supply comes on, no buttons or anything, and then won't atx powerdown << what did you do to it
punkman: TNT was reasonably fast last time I used them
mircea_popescu: fine. that's it. i'm gifting a friggin bitcoin and whatever, the gods have spoken.
mircea_popescu: oh motherfucker.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 02:43:33; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ubiquiti example dovetails nicely with the thread re: unemployed reversers. if persians happily buy turdware, they either haven't many, or haven't any competent ones, or they are all occupied with something else (what ?)
mats: http://log.b-a.link/?date=07-04-2015#1090422 << similar gig as you, i imagine: working for 'the man' in compartmentalized ops, churning out weaponized exploits and such.
nubbins`: there's trudeau and the strip-club-managing, girlfriend-stair-down-throwing senator... /boxing each other/
nubbins`: mircea_popescu incidentally, trudeau's son (because this is what politics in north america is now) is currently the leader of the national liberal party, w/ maybe a 50-50 shot at the big seat next election
nubbins`: only that the senate is full of subhumans
mircea_popescu: so then what problem do you see ?
nubbins`: "let them bleed"
nubbins`: "what of the bleeding hearts?", he was asked
nubbins`: former prime minister pierre trudeau, who famously enacted the war measures act in 1970 when couple politicians got kidnapped and murdered
mike_c: danielpbarron: experiment is over, yes? given pace over the last few days the slow version is literally never going to finish.
nubbins`: somewhat more succinctly from the toronto star: "In 2000, four days after Pierre’s death, Margaret went out. She was confronted by a TV reporter, the punchably cruel Mike Duffy, now a senator, who barked at her, “How do you feel today, Mrs. Trudeau? Have you remembered it’s Michel’s birthday?” She collapsed."
nubbins`: Suddenly, somebody pushed his way through. Margaret turned and said "Oh, hi Mike," and smiled broadly. "This was Misha's birthday," the man said, referring to the Trudeaus' youngest son Michel, who died two years ago. Her face froze and she burst into tears. She turned around and quickly walked away. "It's Michel's birthday today," she said in a strained voice to those around her. "I didn't remember." Michel, the youngest of her
nubbins`: It was all on live TV yesterday morning. Pierre Trudeau's grieving ex-wife had come to view the Centennial Flame shortly after a ceremony marking the departure of his coffin to a funeral train bound for Montreal. Margaret Trudeau was trying to compose herself and nodded quietly as people offered their condolences.
nubbins`: who, after being suspended from the senate, got a job at a strip club and threw his girlfriend down a set of stairs
nubbins`: unanswered is why the Canadian senate is stuffed with washed-up former journalists
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` i don't get what the issue is. can you summarize ?
mircea_popescu: mats i suppose ima import it in my harem. i can be the master, and the slavegirls could be executive masters.
mircea_popescu: i kinda imagine "the graduate institute" to be like... the film, the graduate. except in an institution.
mircea_popescu: co-director & executive master of the international word word leadership fictional entity, geneva.
mircea_popescu: "John Gault is Co-Director, Executive Master in International Oil and Gas Leadership, The Graduate Institute, Geneva."
nubbins`: "once you ascertain you have the alignment correct, you open the window, alert the banking sector, and press 'print'"
nubbins`: ahahahaha these guys
mats: who knows. i'm sure most of the staff guys over there are busy avoiding locals for fear of catching a bullet.
mircea_popescu: what, they like nuland or something ?
mircea_popescu: that's the entire fucking point. why exactly else would maliki or anyone else EVEN TALK dumbass.gov ?
mircea_popescu: mats what exactly do the americans expect local traitors to do other than steal as much as possible ?
mircea_popescu: derp. opec must sell less oil because otherwise we will steal even more of their revenue via internal taxation.
mircea_popescu: principal export than they received prior to adopting the market share strategy and this will be a permanent shift."
mircea_popescu: "Other governments, urged by the IEA and IMF, will reduce or eliminate subsidies to end users of petroleum products. Such modifications to end-user price regimes are most easily implemented when consumers perceive prices to be relatively low. Robert Mabro correctly anticipated such developments following the 1986 oil price collapse. OPEC members will end up with an even smaller percentage of the end-user value of their
mats: "A month before Maliki left office, there were $18 billion in the Development Fund for Iraq at the New York Federal Reserve Bank, plus the KRG’s share of 2014’s budget. When Abadi was sworn into office, there was only $1 billion left."
mats: "When the last KRG delegation visited Baghdad, it was told that the [Iraqi] government literally has run out of money."
nubbins`: mats, drop bombs on x for a decade and a half and see how sincere the Xers are about anything
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do the dollar values even mean ? the dollar's worth in 2020 is drastically indeterminate
nubbins`: well, there goes $20/barrel...
nubbins`: wow, one of woodcollector's shills turned on him, and now wc's socks are accusing the shill of being wc
mircea_popescu: hm, when a motherboard comes on when the supply comes on, no buttons or anything, and then won't atx powerdown
nubbins`: and these!
nubbins`: and these guys
nubbins`: lil nubs in the medium city!
nubbins`: *then
nubbins`: wait, isn't there a thing?
nubbins`: when's the conference anyway
nubbins`: may have to just to a manifest and then modify pinkposixw/e's script
nubbins`: i saved my entire bitcoind dir from the successful build, so i know precisely which boost headers and libs are needed
mircea_popescu: 0.5 fps, but nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: on the "compile time" front, i'm happy to announce eulora got tested on ancient athlon i + 768 mb ram and ancient nvidia 5k series vid card. it compiles in like an hour, and runs.
nubbins`: i know *what* to do -- rip out unused parts of boost with bcp -- but i keep cracking eggshells in the batter
nubbins`: still can't replicate the build
nubbins`: some of those maybe can be ditched once bitcoind gets trimmed down... but these are all just toolchain options, so if you can bear the extra compile time, it's not like it'll make your kernel any fatter
nubbins`: haven't had the time to actually diff a .config before and after and turn it into a patch
nubbins`: ben_vulpes:perhaps i am behind the times, but is there a buildroot config that's been passed around? <<< it's a bit of a frankenstein... i run make pogoplug_defconfig and then i run make nconfig to set a handful of extra flags
nubbins`: can post the turd if anyone's curious, but without instructions on how to replciate, it's just that -- a turd
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funkenstein_: A is associated with decreases in the frequency of A
chetty: that publishing of 'studies' and 'polls' may be one of the greatest ills of our times
mircea_popescu: meanwhile everyone in pakistan thinks the us the enemy, and their interior minister thinks ~2k out of ~2k strikes actually missed their mark and killed random people instead.
mircea_popescu: yeah. an institution you made for the purpose of putting out false "studies".
mircea_popescu: lulziest shit of all time : "Drone strikes are associated with decreases in both the frequency and the lethality of militant attacks overall and in IED and suicide attacks specifically." ~RAND Corporation.
funkenstein_: yes bitcoind. I'm glad to hear that, i was worried by some of the discussion revealing more issues in gcc / linux.
funkenstein_: am i correct in summing up turd polishing discussions, that once DNS is fully removed static linking will be back on the table?
mircea_popescu: but hey, protecting "the american consumer" from price fixing in commodified markets by actors who are in no way in control of the production flux is worth the federal dime now.
punkman: maybe the guy didn't pay enough taxes?
mircea_popescu: "saying a man has agreed to plead guilty to conspiring to illegally fix the prices of posters he sold online."
punkman: oh yeah, super common in the olden days
mircea_popescu: "Quora hereby agrees not to serve or display any third party commercial advertisements or solicitations on the profile page of any user who uses the Quora Services on the Agency's behalf as identified by associating a .gov or .mil email address with the Quora account"
punkman fondly remembers the "by entering this website you promise you aren't a USG agent"
mircea_popescu: but in any case, the comparison between the two is kind-of funny, for the very bored student of decaying empires, and of the cruft their decay pushes into the margins.
mircea_popescu: in today's lol at people who are not lawyers but think they are : quora has a tos and a special-for-usg tos. the tos says it's the only agreement between user and quora. the special-for-usg tos says "language in the Quora ToS and Quora Privacy Policy indicating it alone is the entire agreement between the Parties is waived"