decimation: a turd sandwich sounds delicious to someone about the starve to death
mircea_popescu: moreover, people who think they achieved hapiness are the golden standard of deranged.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: if you need "a thing" to achieve it, you'll soon want another "thing"
decimation: nubbins`: when my baby boy was born the doctor said "his frenulum is really long, you want me to snip it"?
ben_vulpes: bitstein: y'all reconcile over the megablocks yet?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "leading normal happy life" is not the gold standard.
bitstein: mircea_popescu: I don't think we ever expected them to actually implement it. We just enjoy publicly shaming wallet inspectors.
nubbins`: i had the frenulum under my tongue pierced
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> trinque: i had a subcutaneous piercing across the back of my neck << hah no wai
asciilifeform: folks kept as 'axenic mice' tend to go off the rollers in ways like this.
mircea_popescu: hopefully they run out of money and then they vcan go on thinking they knew better with the winklevii and the rest of the dumbcrowd.
ben_vulpes: trinque: i'll show you the vampire bite sometime
mircea_popescu: bitstein the thing with idiots is that they will continue to think they know better indefinitely.
nubbins`: that said, there are plenty of people who cut off a fingertip, tattoo their face, cut their nuts off, w/e... and then just go on to lead a normal, happy life
ben_vulpes: trinque: i had a subcutaneous piercing across the back of my neck
bitstein: DKIM?" So that worked out well for them.
ben_vulpes: but i'm probably fully in the deranged category
bitstein: BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: http://qntra.net/2015/04/coinbase-outgoing-email-hacked/ << Pierre_Rochard and I have been trying to tell Coinbase they should be using PGP for a while now. https://community.coinbase.com/t/pgp-signed-encrypted-e-mails/470 Adrian from Coinbase (presumably the same one as linked to in the article) said: "Do you think that simply signing messages sent from Coinbase with PGP would add any additional security over
decimation: ^ which is why they need to be put back to mining U instead of letting them wollow in 'tardation
mircea_popescu: i'd really like to get with the program here and think "hey, more power to em", but the vast majority of the self improvers are just deranged.
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decimation: ". I remember as my second testicle was being clipped from the body, it was an expierence I won’t forget! The feeling of YES it is finally done! I remember it all like yesterday. Months after, and I’m talking 3-4 months of not taking testosterone shots or anything, I started getting hot flashes."
ben_vulpes: and now there are three, asciilifeform
trinque: other than it must be a few notches below suicide
asciilifeform: or 1000 other works of art
asciilifeform: or in the film 'snow piercer'
asciilifeform: decimation: as features in roal dahl's story with the bums
nubbins`: over the course of maybe 2-3 years
nubbins`: ^ i actually watched this guy go from a vanilla fat kid into what you see in the first picture
asciilifeform: i did not say whether eaten.
decimation: why not eaten by others?
decimation: yeah, but then you gotta go back to mining uranium without hand
ben_vulpes: (the correct procurement point being avicar, clearly)
mircea_popescu: but the idea isn't to make stupid shit impossible. just punishable.
nubbins`: where they kindly removed it for him
nubbins`: asciilifeform he couldn't saw it off himself, so he froze it with dry ice and went to the hospital
mircea_popescu: who the fuck does that ?!
mircea_popescu: no further than tonight, girl got sent to bed early because well, bought eggs at carefour.
decimation: sure why not make a subreddit where sick fucks can egg each other on
trinque: seems like humans will a) accept any category they've heard about a certain number of times and b) compete with each other as examples of that category
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you know how it is when they come to you asking for the right decisions to be made.
nubbins`: these are obviously NSFW
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc from shrink literature, proper ampuphetishists grow 'alienated' from their hand/foot/cock, coming to believe that it was a foreign object sewn on to them by martian abductors or somesuch.
ben_vulpes: specially not the moneymaking parts
trinque: not like I've never felt pain, but I don't see the point in losing parts
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine the system his wife is using
asciilifeform: or even the proverbial 'ru. roulette with automatic'
nubbins`: i actually read a handful of stories from self-amputees over the years
asciilifeform: <trinque> what will the kids think of next << here's to hoping that it's dueling they'll think of.
trinque: what will the kids think of next
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> the guy is proposing to merge the silk road with yahoo! answers << well, they already implemented "yahoo finance boards" as "bitcoin finance"
trinque: they'll make a "subculture" out of anything
asciilifeform: i assume 'self-amputated' means something other than machine-shop
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc the 'state of the art' shrink practice is not 'self-acceptance' but prescription of mutilations
nubbins`: IF THAT'S THE CASE
nubbins`: "Update: Some of you have suggested that Morris might have body dysmorphic disorder. If that's the case, we hope she finds a professional who can guide her away from excessive plastic surgeries and toward self-acceptance."
decimation: only after driving on them for awhile
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The fix a flat adheres to the wheel's metal. Also tends to deploy unevenly. wheels in the best case need scraped after use, in worst case become malformed
asciilifeform: i am now wondering if you folks have halon or what in there.
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah but the point is to inflate wheel enough to make it to tire vendor
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's the traditional small extinquisher, meant for use on motor, not on self or passengers
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i and everybody else have it in my car, in the box in the back where the fire extinguisher etc. is kept << Wait your fire extinguisher isn't under the seat?
asciilifeform: i and everybody else have it in my car, in the box in the back where the fire extinguisher etc. is kept
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I did. Not a fan of footnotes above the read more link, looks confusing on the front page.
nubbins`: i can only imagine the horrors behind that statement. agreed.
trinque: nubbins`: that black chick that was doing the cement ass injections would be great for the site
asciilifeform: they are discussing how to build tv set without having discovered electricity as of yet.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: laugh, but it is only funny because these folks have not invented wot yet.
nubbins`: but the lels, oh jesus
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asciilifeform: to pick up the dust from idiots at noblis
nubbins`: "have a scratch, then bake it; natch"
asciilifeform: 1LLkNuQQ2GkS5DmQzsTxCmErUH8ew6dnDi from qntra << nothing but dust in there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in the case of the woman linked earlier, my understanding is that she is largely funded by husband - a swell chap, from ru, of approximately my age, whom i also met once.
mircea_popescu: ie, the 17-29 demographic
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: some of these people may or may not get various pensions, handouts, etc. mostly - not.
decimation: I was thinking in the sense that 'why should I buy from your dumbass amway when I already have a guy for that'
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> <+ben_vulpes> boss your penchant for recasting everything as a result of your own actions is endlessly amusing <<< i came for the btc, stayed for the lels << hey, if obama can save the economy...
mircea_popescu: i suppose one needs the particular idiocies of the us for the particular forms of the us idiocy to manifest.
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> boss your penchant for recasting everything as a result of your own actions is endlessly amusing <<< i came for the btc, stayed for the lels
asciilifeform: they work largely like 'amway' salesmen once did
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you might be thinking of academics. the folks i was speaking of, don't get grantola.
mircea_popescu: not books have been nominated in the category, lets say its not an original work) but a collection of right-wing chain emails and one linerswhich, among other works
mircea_popescu: The ballot looks ridiculous. John C. Wright has three nominations in the novella category and six overall, a record. The vast majority of the works are published by Castalia House, a Finnish micropublisher barely a year old and owned, Im sure coincidentally, by Vox Day. Wisdom From My Internet, nominated in the Best Related Work category, is neither science fiction, nor, strictly speaking, a book, (Edit: many things
ben_vulpes: here's to the minimum wage and full employment!
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> right. and brokeback mountain isn't an endless piece of meaningless cheese. because polarities. <<< in fairness, the book was under 100 pages
asciilifeform: a select few - who were able to con someone into printing, and a somewhat larger set of others (friends, family, sex partners) into buying,
asciilifeform: the remaining authors are largely 'wannebees' who wank themselves to sleep every night wishing for a 'minimum wage' income from their drivel;
asciilifeform: when the civilization that it was an ornament on, had died
mircea_popescu: ".And to an author of integrity, its a pointless act of bullying, because if you dont compete against the best, an award is meaningless."
asciilifeform: so the quick version is, english language science fiction -mostly- died long ago
mircea_popescu: o wait. bitching at excellent scientists because they didn't say stupid-thing-x-about-our-aggenda is not laughably petty and outright idiotic.
mircea_popescu: "4. None of this is strictly speaking against the rules. Its unethical. Its almost laughably petty and mean-spirited."
mircea_popescu: really, opposing "social justice" implies one supports... injustice ? how about the obvious "social-anything is stupid, for many reasons we won't rehash, and never has anything to do with the vanilla version" ?
asciilifeform: the 'no negotiation' thing left stage-1 long ago, and is worming its way towards n
mircea_popescu: W is, I hope youre enjoying your new computer. It stands for Social Justice Warrior, which to a normal person sounds like someone who fights for justice and cares about all human beings, and to conservatives like the devil himself. The implication that they then must support injustice seems to be lost.
mircea_popescu: 3. The group is of the opinion that their work was being overlooked because of their politics, and that the Hugo ballots and winners of the last several years were only awarded due to leftist politics and the racial/sexual/gender identities of their authors, not quality. The tenor of the call to arms was explicitly and often resoundingly politicalthis is your chance to hurt SJWs. If you dont know what an SJ
asciilifeform: ilkka kokkarinen, before being forced to choose between eating and blogging (tenure does not exist in canada?) had an interesting piece on the 'stages of progressivism'
ben_vulpes: trinque: thanks man. there's a lot of rebel foundation stuff in there i need published again.
ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing, what kind of retarded programming situation *even permits* for the bitcoin reward overflow bug in the first place?!
mircea_popescu: not because economy's dead and whoever has "investors" to connect them to the printing teat can simply dictate terms.
mircea_popescu: decimation yea, i'm sure THAT's why they don't negotiate.
mircea_popescu: except, of course, english is about as relevant to tanzania as korean to the us.
mircea_popescu: Like many other African countries, Tanzania has made huge strides in expanding basic services like health and education. The primary school enrollment rate, for instance, is officially at 94%. But unofficial statistics suggest the quality of those services is often quite poor.
mircea_popescu: But in the spirit of thumbing ones nose at government overreach, heres a sampling of unofficial, but highly reputable statistics about Tanzania that might explain whats going on.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2014#888209 << aaaah cute mats still had his keys back then
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 15:45:04; othernubs`: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html#fnr.20 << thanks for this write up, this would def. need to be patched in. <<< agreed, great writeup, altho evidence seems to point to 0.6.3 being the right choice
decimation: of course reddit doesn't even need to pay employees, what with having a vast reservoir of people who would gladly pay to work there
decimation: lol http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-bans-salary-negotiations-to-equalize-pay/ "“Men negotiate harder than women do and sometimes women get penalized when they do negotiate,” she said. “So as part of our recruiting process we don’t negotiate with candidates.
ben_vulpes: and the analogue here is "holes are unpleasant"?
asciilifeform: the only reason she is remembered is for having banned railroad, because locomotive was 'too loud.'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, decimation: 'cixi' << a reference to the dowager empress?
decimation: some of them, yes.
asciilifeform: decimation: not especially many bureaucrats ever believed that the rockets would fly. the purpose of investments like this was to bankrupt ussr, by forcing response in kind
decimation: in the late 50's and 60's the nuclear force was largely run by actual people, who had agendas that made sense
decimation: but here's the thing: apparently even the nuclear defense/attack commanders have been 'cixi-ized'
decimation: it's amazing how the interests of the 'public at large' (even 'usg at large') can be usurped by some bureaucrat who likes a nice window office
decimation: asciilifeform: you can imagine how it would cramp the style of a high ranking usg 'staffer' to report for duty inside a hole
asciilifeform: setting for, e.g., the film 'war games'
asciilifeform: probably more recognizable, among a certain public, than the white house.
decimation: usg paid $bil to hollow out mountain, then paid $$ to modernize it after 2001, then decided it was 'too small' in 2006 (apparently nukes weren't a concern anymore) and now has suddenly seen wisdom in moving back into the bunker
asciilifeform: decimation: l0l! i somehow missed that the mountain had been mothballed
ben_vulpes: thirty seconds later, "you know, i'm not the sort of guy to insist on a full foot-down stop from bikers at every stop sign. but DUDE! you came through that intersection at easily over 20 mph!"
ben_vulpes: i accidentally a stop sign at oh 30 mph on my bike the other day, right in front of a copper.
BingoBoingo: In my understanding outside of very large cities, grants tend to push local police toward the most tedious tasks
ben_vulpes: maybe this socialist utopia's the last holdout. federales have been leaning hard on them for cracking a few too many crackpot brainpans, and beating up on brown folks.
ben_vulpes: decimation: don't cities operate their own police force?
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I would posit that the us mostly has a 'Gendarmerie'
ben_vulpes: cops are scawwy what with their failure to understand basic physics
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
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asciilifeform: i barbarously screwed mine shut with the wires in.
asciilifeform: TomServo: you drilled the box, or what
asciilifeform: in short, save the headache and do it. someone here did not even own a soldering iron, iirc, and bought one for the occasion, and did not regret.
asciilifeform: (i do not know of any simple means to 'netcat' these. they come out of ttyS0, as the gods intended.)
ben_vulpes: TomServo: oh, you've actually cracked the case and everything?
ben_vulpes: no, the part where pogo boots and then attaches to a nc instance running on your host machine
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Like with executions I imagine they will try to put a medical veneer on it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at some point they will rediscover traditional eunuch-making.
ben_vulpes: bitcoinrpg -> control the network quest -> bitcoind quest (now apparently depends on buildroot quest, which depends on gentoo quest, so may as well pogoquest as well)
TomServo: Now to figure out these u-bout and buildroot things.
TomServo is the proud owner of 'adulterated' pogo.
asciilifeform: i will add that they did this same exercise last year at exactly this time.
asciilifeform discovers, to no surprise, that the film clips of this event have been deleted from youtube.
asciilifeform: ru parachutists land on a drifting ice sheet, 100km from the pole, in full gear; build camp with self-contained systems, mains power, heat, etc. at -50c.
asciilifeform: yes but no mention of the second pisser
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've no seen any reason other than "pissing contest"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it so happens that there is one
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mircea_popescu: meh there goes this kbd
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092197 << either that or they've been spamming since forever as business / usual.
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mircea_popescu: "oh we shall send people in #bitcoin-assets as per standard counter-actor and sabotage procedures to be made within hours and laughed at all the way to the front desk."
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 16:15:40; fluffypony: and claim I found them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092133 << sounds roughly worth the lulz
BingoBoingo: Fuck, grandpa had a stroke Friday and he's already back to walking around normally. The only thing that seems to have changed is he actually takes his blood pressure medicine.
mircea_popescu: i mean people would come with their freshly baked cookies for a dusting...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo nah, you ever seen what happens if you accidentally a bag ? << I get the most delicous coffing fits.
mircea_popescu: can't fucking breathe.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds. << You just end up with a different crowd with a heavier category of people
mircea_popescu: grind that shit fine enough, throw it in the air...
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds.
jurov: anyone can explain to me why the reddit turd is considered seriously here?
assbot: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31vl7q/there_is_a_targeted_attack_on_bitcoin_occurring/: There is a targeted attack on Bitcoin occurring right now, coordinated by national agencies. I know this because I am an insider with prior involvement in a key operation. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7C1V1 )
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 18:48:06; ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/22CZGG0 << mirror of the (since censored) reddit turd
mircea_popescu: "your honor, this man is totally innocent of what the police did to his house."
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:55:01; danielpbarron: someone from -otc sent me a pizza once; just so happened to be the same day as my weekly poker game so i just paid for it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092094 << you don't have to be licensed if you handbreed them.
mircea_popescu: hmm so the ~90 i paid for it isn't really THAT outrageous.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably jsut a handful of "businesses" that found themselved locked in
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fluffypony: Obama should just find the secret case
nubbins`: so there's yr answer i guess
nubbins`: ^ here's where woodcollector agrees to make the "$14,000 wooden B" for... 1 btc.
mats: finally got myself a hard copy after some searching of the interwebs. nobody has bothered to warez, yet...
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BingoBoingo: Back in college the phrasing to trigger a smoke break was "Do you think you can handle a cigarette now?" "I think I Can, Sir."
mircea_popescu: other one was ame or ami or something
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mircea_popescu: punkman wasn't the "management engine" an intel thing ?
ascii_field: and among portable computers, amd is extinct other than in 'disposable' models
mircea_popescu: ascii_field have you seen the recent "gamer desktops" recommendations btw ? nothing but intel.
ascii_field: pathetic buggers, doing the one and only thing they are good at - 'spinning the controversy'
punkman: ascii_field: not mandatory, as in I can get a motherboard without it?
ascii_field: 'oh noez, the chip is auditable when we don't want it to be! boobytrap!'
ascii_field: turned out, it was possible to read back the bitstream from a 'locked' unit
ascii_field: at one time there was much crowing re: a 'xilinx fpga backdoor'
ascii_field: or, another instance of this idiocy,
ascii_field: 'oh noez non-crippled hardware, someone other than usg could modify it'
ascii_field: http://danluu.com/cpu-backdoors << not the first time a usg shill spins amd's lack of encipherment or signature enforcement on microcode updates as a weakness
nubbins`: man, reddit's taking a page from the book of alf today o.O
ascii_field: to continue with the line of thought, as soon as we so much as frag less than gavin's turd, someone - anyone - could send us off on a fork of less-retardation.
ascii_field: we don't even know for a fact what it is the miners use..
mircea_popescu: until then, we hang out in irc.
ascii_field: the java turd ?
ascii_field: and until then, what? we are required to leak at the same rate as which extant bitcoind?
ascii_field has no idea how, or even whether, this is handled.
mircea_popescu: we explain the problem, publish the measuring tools, let people declare themselves retarded.
ascii_field: at what point do 'we' get to proclaim that folks using the buggy version are retarded ?
mircea_popescu: among many other things
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, before any sort of change, like say a block size increase, this will have to be measured
mircea_popescu: we don't care atm, because we know experimentally the system as deployed is stable.
ascii_field: sappers get to make their one mistake.
ascii_field: 'isn't a jewel' << mega-understatement of the century
mircea_popescu: and the bitcoind allocation scheme isn't a jewel or anything.
mircea_popescu: in general, going by the "never one single bug in kitchen, and noting that bdb locks are a resource of the kind that pointers are, just one easier to exhaust, i propose this as likely, on the basis of my business heuristics.
jurov: you just flush the disk cache by your misallocations and then take longer to verify the block
jurov: i don't see the issue why that would lead to fork per se.
mircea_popescu: that gavin [pretends like he] doesn't know such is exactly why the verbiage as to the retarded boy in one of my articles debunking the nonsense.
mircea_popescu: currently the 1mb limit is blessfully keeping THIS (among its many sisters) under the water.
ascii_field: where the garbage has time to coalesce
ascii_field: that the fragging issue itself results in ludicrously overpowered boxes being put to use
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this in fact happens 'in the wild.' the only reason it does not lead to forks where folks with, e.g., 1GB of ram wheel off into a parallel universe from folks with 2GB, and 4GB, etc. is,
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat? << There is a trilema post tracking this phenomenon, but if you want to elevate it to a sustained operation go for it.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're entirely exhausted, i broadcast some more txn and mine a block with them.
mircea_popescu: i also broadcast 50k 150 byte txn. these go in your pile, and on fresh memory.