WolfGoethe: should give folks the option to verify if they really want to for trust's sake etc.. i am sure pro traders won't mind
WolfGoethe: not really. i do it pretty anon right now... as opposed to coinbase and circle who know everything about me, other traders don;t care
jurov: that usually makes the second problem worse
WolfGoethe: an escrow service dressed up for the mainstream so people can hustle with their financial tools and make money trading bitcoins etc..
WolfGoethe: proper peer to peer is online only. using bitcoin as the lubricant between fiancial instruments like bank deposits, wire, paypal my cash, prepaid cards, western union , domestic intnational methods etc.. and all currencies
WolfGoethe: for example. taking localbitcoin.com to the next level. like grubhub for money
jurov: WolfGoethe for me it's much better to trade on davout's exchange
trinque: WolfGoethe: seems you do, so how?
jurov: !up WolfGoethe
trinque: what struck me is how on-point maslow's propaganda is, the exact opposite of what it should be, not some arbitrary other thing
trinque: mircea_popescu: ran into your hierarchy of needs article by way of pete. interesting to note that at the top of maslow's was this vaguely communist "self transcendence" idea, whereas at the top of yours, the man's concept of self seems to engulf others.
mircea_popescu: "To add insult to injury, despite the emails containing references to the aforementioned website and key, the following Microsoft announcements on July 10 and 11 were actually signed by the key 0xF0B7406D which is not referenced as a key used for current Microsoft announcements. This key actually does contain a small number of signatures from external users, but as with 0xA92965F2 none from any Microsoft employee. As t
mircea_popescu: http://blog.sumptuouscapital.com/2014/07/how-microsoft-once-again-demonstrates-not-caring-about-security/ << from the lulz department
mircea_popescu: and re the pyx thing : argentina had a very aspirational relationship with england. kinda why the faulkland war was such a big deal, sort-of like rambunctious kid going after dad, in a sense.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i think it's because for a while they added new keys in batches ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: lot of nice pics in there thx!
mod6: Lady quasi-butt, depicted with all the skill and guile of somebody that's never seen one. << lol
lobbes: 'The Bush administration relied more heavily on psychologists than psychiatrists or other health professionals to monitor many interrogations'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the gold balance suggests that they had something like engl. 'trial of the pyx'. did they ?
mircea_popescu: the good news being that neither a or b are actual things, or have any sort of hope of long term survival. just the froth of our days, soon to be gone back into the darkness that spawned them.
mircea_popescu: it's irresolvable, for as long as a) "being special" is valued formally rather than substantially, and b) people get to make choice on the mere grounds of existing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's the broad conflict. "being special" having been promulgated as a social good, and smashing the classification being a bona fide way to manufacture specialness, you now have the conflict of the boring who aspire to hack their way to attention vs the people who don't care about them and wish to remain able to not care about them.
mircea_popescu: obviously the correct reaction would just be what i did on the meat list, ie, group all weird under a single "Weird" heading. but then obviously this irks the delusions of individuality of the individual weird involved, so there's that line of bitching.
mircea_popescu: and this is why the traditional statement of the objection among the wrong side of kink high is "i don't want them imposing their stuff on me".
mircea_popescu: lobbes let me tell you why. because if servers introduce a new response code, you're stuck either making your browser aware of it, or else put up with the constant bitching.
lobbes: bagels7, that is ultimately his problem though, no? Why change your lifestyle based on others?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne by now they've completely lost any sort of relation between words. it's just... word word word word.
bagels7: [11:38] <+mircea_popescu> how do you know it's faggot insecurity ? << When I am waiting at a bus stop at 2 in the morning and a guy walks by and pretends to be waiting for the bus as an excuse to talk to me while I am merely being polite then after 15 minutes has the nerve to tell me that I deceived him when he was only being nice to get laid
mircea_popescu: or else why do [mostly old women] go to church ? because they're affraid they're secretly god ?
mircea_popescu: while it's true that it probably shares that source with all sorts of nuttery (religious fervor, for instance), i very much doubt the actual motivator is what's proposed, ie, "dude is secretly gay and fighting it overtly"
mircea_popescu: obviously sexual normativity is enforced on some sort of level irrespectively of the type.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the original (mostly politically driven) explanation for violence against homosexuals - some sort of "homophobia" suffers a lot seeing how ALL SORTS of other sexual behaviours elicit the same violent response. such as transsexualism, or pedophilia.
bagels7: As someone who is transgender I stay away from men in general. I make men angry that would rather kill me than to deal with their faggot insecurity
mod6: sweet, the sorting of ratings data looks great
mod6: I love this chart as well; are there any plans to make the name's in the graph link to the corresponding page for that user/keyid?
mircea_popescu: hm, that might not be so clever, ends up crunching the lines instead of crunching the nodes by outside exposure.
mircea_popescu: mike_c q : how hard would it be to enforce fixed placement on the inner circle ? i dunno how they're placed now, but how about just divide 2pi to however many people and each gets that much sector
mod6: Well, the lordship updates seem to be in place nicely.
ben_vulpes: young man, you have committed an outrageous upgrade for the most serene republic!
williamdunne: Thats one of the upgrades I need to make
mircea_popescu: does it keep a list of what it last posted so when it comes back up it can see if there's anything new ?
assbot: The museum of the National Bank of Argentina on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EuZzBy )
mircea_popescu: since somehow scoopbot missed http://trilema.com/2015/the-museum-of-the-national-bank-of-argentina/ (hey williamdunne how's that work ?), dedicating it to nubbins` an' asciilifeform by hand.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: beleeting your e-mail did the trick.
mircea_popescu: clearly, there's nothing wrong with this. everyone (else) is just mean evil and weird.
mircea_popescu: I agree. If you tell them upfront, they'll be weirded out. If you tell them in person, they might try to physically hurt you."
mircea_popescu: >After first date and over the phone.
pete_dushenski: the memory b-cells don't last forever.
mircea_popescu: the inseparable!
pete_dushenski: so something's improved since then
pete_dushenski: i tried a corona a few months, which are supposedly as low on the gluten scale as they come for normal beers, and i puked my guts out.
pete_dushenski: well the treatment seems to be working!
mircea_popescu: that's treatment : remove the allergen, give it a few years, try a minute dose.
pete_dushenski: re: prayer, not like i'm going to go eat a loaf of bread now either just because a pizza pinged off my immunoarmour
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 16:32:38; pete_dushenski: like the dentist who's busy when priced competitively, wants to be less busy, jacks up his prices to the highest in town, and then has his doors beaten down with customers like never before.
pete_dushenski: ah so veblen goods would be like that dentist's services i was mentioning the other day.
mircea_popescu: right, just because prayer worked in the past is no reason to pray.
pete_dushenski: agreed about the insanity of pursuing #5, no matter how useful of a model its pursuit may prove in hindsight.
mircea_popescu: that it explains it does NOT reduce the insanity of it however.
mircea_popescu: because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour.
mircea_popescu: "This, mystical domination, is easily the prettiest girl in school. Shes the most unattainable, the most lust-worthy, the most drool-inducing" << you know what veblen goods are ?
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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the impressive and simultaneously worrying aspect of the bb-pgp biz is that the owner was a former tradesman who apparently thought to himself "hey, you know what the market needs, properly encrypted messaging!"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/desteapta-te-n-pula-mea-de-distractie/ << i might have found the tensest thing i wrote on trilema. wishing goodluck to anyone who's going to write a program to tokenize this text.
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2015 13:00:33; pete_dushenski: apparently he has some large contracts already, something in the order of $6mn per year and no employees.
Pierre_Rochard: “For people to say black lives matter, and for the crowd to shout back ‘U.S.A.,’ which is upholding a system that is oppressing black people, I think that that is problematic,”
jurov: one of my first job as admin were email servers. and from the beginning it was like "plz to raise limit on attachments" "plz why the email did not arrive yet" "plz why is the internet slow cant you, you know set some priorities for traffic"
mircea_popescu: eh, fire the ceo.
jurov: and? so the optimal thing would be to parse the email and encrypt some parts by rsa and some by aes or what?
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as mime
jurov: well, you live on the sane planet where people send only typed text by email and other things by other channels
mircea_popescu: on that litthe shitty keyboard ?
mircea_popescu: naggum, through the magic of shoving lisp up his ass, types 180wpm
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mircea_popescu: funny how moore law is always there to justify doing something stupid, never to justify doing things like "rsa all the way - we can afford it now"
pete_dushenski: i dun follow that part at all. the pgp/rsa makes sense but where aes comes in is anyone's guess.
pete_dushenski: though the private master key is generated on a desktop.
pete_dushenski: "For maximum security, our BlackBerry PGP encryption service utilizes AES 256 bit PGP encryption with a 4096 bit RSA key format." << also uses session keys, but these are presumably generated on the phone, so...
pete_dushenski: apparently he has some large contracts already, something in the order of $6mn per year and no employees.
pete_dushenski: i e-mailed him, he recommended using the blackberry 9900 (2011 vintage) or earlier
pete_dushenski: "A man embarrassed in his circumstances, and conducting them imprudently, likes best to continue in the dark; he will not gladly reckon up the debtor entries he is charged with. But on the other hand, there is nothing to a prudent manager more pleasant than daily to set before himself the sums of his growing fortune. -J.W. von Goethe" << lovely quote btw.
Pierre_Rochard: 6 months of physical therapy
pete_dushenski: how long is the expected recovery ?
Pierre_Rochard: originally dislocated while mountain biking, then again from skipping rope
pete_dushenski: we need the "explain it to me like i'm 5 years old" approach
Pierre_Rochard: exactly, and I’m assembling an abrams tank, now I need to write up the user manual
pete_dushenski: sort of like how a pointy rock was state-of-the-art tribal warfare 50,000 years ago.
Pierre_Rochard: the sub has its own set of books, you need to roll them up into the parent company’s, there are adjustments to made (like of the parent is lending money to the sub)
Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: or at least make reasonable bookkeepers out of you, I couldn’t call someone an accountant if they don’t know how to do a multi-entity, multi-currency consolidation
Pierre_Rochard: davout: I floated the idea last year - I’ve used a lot of different accounting software and never been satisfied - none of them use acccounting theory as the spec
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: decimation> asciilifeform: more on ada: http://www.adacore.com/academia/universities/ < the list of us universities has a conspicuous absence of 'popular' tech schools << 'where used' is by far the least appealing aspect of ada. as for 'where taught', the answer is largely nowhere. the kind of thinking implied by ada is a -culture- that has to be imparted.
asciilifeform: happy hitler's-brains-on-the-floor day.
gabriel_laddel: wtf I can't find the source for that quote anymore
mircea_popescu: but i won't agree he's a mathematician.
mircea_popescu: i would agree that the counting horse is a remarkable horse,
gabriel_laddel: ce this is mostly redundant, it can be also automated. this is stuff that takes just a bit of time to do, but when a whole paragraph of text needs to be changed from second person singular or from third person singular to third person plural, it's nice to do that with a couple keystrokes. it's also nice to see that the pronouns are easily traceable to their origins, and don't get messed up in several layers of refer
gabriel_laddel: apart from this, I have written Emacs Lisp functions to make a statement into a question and vice versa, to join and split sentences (not quite as trivial as it sounds), to upgrade from singular to plural and vice versa, to change the person from second to third and vice versa, et cetera. significant parts of grammar is the way it is to maintain correspondence between numbers and persons and tenses and such, and sin
gabriel_laddel: Lemme find the quote
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 17:11:55; mircea_popescu: "The studious will note that this is a completely solved problem that no machine learning algorithm will be able to approximate anytime soon." i'm sorry...what ? solved how ?
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116068 << see the lisp machine etc.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 17:12:02; mircea_popescu: and why the fuck am i referencing pastebins.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 15:00:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115422 << this, i will point out, is in no way related to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going to fail), but simply a function of context. had the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted idiocy to the tu
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115889 << and I will point out that you're wrong. The simplicity of lisp vs. C is absolutely due to the inherrent properties of the respective artifacts. Seriously, MMM vs GC, parsing vs. not, no bignums vs. numerics - "abstractions push upward" (TM).
gabriel_laddel: ad, as most people would immediately recoil in horror, seeing something so very different what they're used to.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:41:31; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " << this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is to say one of those people who, through his usage, ENACTS the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115871 << If the "rules" of human language are formalized it becomes much easier to break them in interesting ways. One could use the output of a shannonizer to inform word choice for his story, enforcing that each word is followed by one of the top 10 least likely words in the whole of the language up to this point. I suspect that such a tale would be great fun to re
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:31:02; Adlai: aha, the good old C-c C-w C-c
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:29:15; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back the fucking paperclip, put it the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool to int. This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me to a) check all places where
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115832 << We're discussing the same thing. If the program has "marked" all instances of $WHATEVER I can trivally add "Would you like me to a) check all places where it's called and report what I can figure out about the context ? b) iterate you through all locations ? c) change it back ? d) run a trace see what happens ?" on top of it.
decimation: yeah I'm not sure if the guy is joking or not
mircea_popescu: what is this, the future ?
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decimation: I assume you saw http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/27/wordpress_zero_day_xss/
mircea_popescu: or you mean popular as in, sought after. not as in, where commoners gather
decimation: there are a couple of those on the list, but mostly it's made up of small private schools and vocational schools
decimation: this is a feature - not a bug - if we agree with the notion that anything that keeps the masses of cool kids away is a good thing
decimation: asciilifeform: more on ada: http://www.adacore.com/academia/universities/ < the list of us universities has a conspicuous absence of 'popular' tech schools
Pierre_Rochard: the end goal is to have a currency -> payments -> accounting -> finance process that is well oiled and a joy to use
Pierre_Rochard: indeed, though I think the gems will become apparent as pacioli becomes integrated with a wallet and the WoT. writing the core accounting part was necessary because of all the crufted OSS gnucash/openerp monoliths
mircea_popescu: i mean it in the bluntest "make sense of reality" sense.
mircea_popescu: and i don't even mean it in the made-for-tv "tax dodge11!1!" sense.
mircea_popescu: there are lovely gems and brilliant coups
mircea_popescu: there's actually, how did that quote go...
mircea_popescu: if they have ~fundamental~ understanding as a result of interacting with your thing, you scored major points.
mircea_popescu: and even if the resulting "accountants" won't be very good by the way this is measured today (a "stickler" approach - great emphasis on detail)
Pierre_Rochard: that’s a great approach, I was stuck in the mindset of “I’m coding this for accountants”, rather than “I’m coding this to create accountants”
mircea_popescu: myeah. it WILL help if it leverages the power of html to literally funel people into sense.
mircea_popescu: sorta funel the process of selection towards gaap/sanity
mircea_popescu: so giving them stuff like - well documented drop lists ? huge win.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard a large chunk of the utility here is education, seeing how a bunch of people are going to get involved in a sort of you know, de novo, revolutionary economic process.
Pierre_Rochard: I don’t… gaap or non-gaap depends 90% on the user, 10% on the software - the software is at 11%
Pierre_Rochard: so it’s gaap if a good accountant is using pacioli, it’s some non-gaap thing otherwise
Pierre_Rochard: in fact the database tables and query structures are as close to perfect accounting theory as you’ll get
Pierre_Rochard: the core accounting part is stable at this point, the treasury part needs a major overhaul, and documentation / source code access will be in place before the next halving
Pierre_Rochard: haha, well, some random categorizations will be in the next iteration of the test data generation script
Pierre_Rochard: (and any other feedback)
cazalla: yeah, qntra has plenty of those and other variations mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: "This post Formule de salut on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. concerning SEO provides clear thought for new SEO users that how to do Search engine optimization, therefore keep it up. Nice job
cazalla: soz for the elbowing BingoBoingo but i saw more gems news on coinfire earlier :)
cazalla: still, not a bad effort compared to some other launches
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 10:14:00; davout: so apparently this neucoin thing sold for 2.7kBTC worth of their, ahem, "coin"
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115643 <<< from their website under "Strategic Advisors" Jackson Palmer and Brock Pierce lol
pete_dushenski: i mean, a few of us here do it for fun, but surely we miss errors here and there.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:42:28; mircea_popescu: (and yes editors, which trilema doth employ, send the corrections with "did you mean to X" half the fucking time)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115874 << seems like the trilema editors should scan qntra articles too.
pete_dushenski: there we go.
williamdunne: At the moment doesn't support adding new feeds. That will come soon-ish
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No, as in the historical person Pulitzer.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron i do enjoy 'sunny'. the first 5 seasons were pretty fucking hilarious but i haven't kept up with it since then.
pete_dushenski: "or you can look at them once and fill out our survey"
pete_dushenski: "if you looks at our ads twice, we'll let you read the page once"
pete_dushenski: and reloading makes the stltoday page magically work.
pete_dushenski: anyways, ferguson remains on low boil until further notice.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115268 << fuck stltoday and their wapo-esque survey paywall.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 03:45:05; decimation: lol http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-twitter-earns-20150429-story.html < "The company lost $162.4 million, compared with a loss of $132.4 million in the year-earlier quarter. Revenue jumped to $435.9 million from $250.5 million, but still fell far short of analysts' expectations of $463 million."
mircea_popescu: get some $5 dollar wedgers in there lol
mircea_popescu: should be lots of fun now that silly-valley's come up with the police bot.
lobbes vaguely recalls some tv show from ~15 years ago depicting robot fights such as these
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: lol at the MRAP
ascii_field finds these scenes extra-lulzy on account of having walked on those streets
trinque: stylish leather strap on those beatin'-sticks
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2015 19:30:55; asciilifeform: jurov: the zip tie and the effete executioner of the future are a match made in heaven. no need to watch the victim struggle, dance. zip - next.
ascii_field: the obligatory ziptie handcuffs (last photo.)
ascii_field: the revolver-shotgun is finally out, apparently
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the way it works is that when polling interval elapses, it does everything in the queue
mircea_popescu: well, there's no point in it having 2 items in queue while load is under 4 ish
ascii_field: why would we want to throttle the thing, again ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you read 'werker' - there is a polling knob
ascii_field: considering that previously, this thing wasn't even on a computer in the usual sense - this is a major step forward.
assbot: The BDSM version of Facebook is under attack for ignoring women's safety concerns ... ( http://bit.ly/1ERUR4h )
BingoBoingo: Not actual riots, but just the fear of riots
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It truly is. Guy's probably just flipping the ball into the stands out of habit, but seriously in the middle of the day they can't have spectators because... riots?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's flipping the ball into the stands for the fans... Who aren't there because Baltimore, playing the game with an empty stadium because riots
ascii_field: motherfuckers.
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ascii_field begins to drool, like the flea-bitten characters in film 'city of lost children'
mircea_popescu: the internet's not a truck, where yo ucan just dump stuff you know!
ascii_field: running copy of the thing locally
mircea_popescu: ascii_field prolly http posting fuckx them up
mircea_popescu: i wanna see if this'll actually work practically or not for the purpose.
ascii_field: because the 'under construction' thing is disgraceful
mircea_popescu: just dump the db in plox
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you're reading the thing, you will notice there are two processes (one which actually does the work, 'werker'.)
jurov: http://nosuchlabs.com/static/prod.txt would deserve some spiffy visualization...any mathematician with idea?
mircea_popescu: dump the cache it'll respond correctly.
mircea_popescu: welcome to the year not being 2005 anymore, ya know ?
jurov: i see archive.today (195.211.154.159), that's the old one?
mircea_popescu: well... that and ... other reasons.
ascii_field: i'm about to switch off the old one
jurov: what was the url?
mircea_popescu: so mebbe i dun understand something, but wasn't it going to process the however many gb archive ?
ascii_field: anyway it works. time to move the dns
mircea_popescu: i'll go through the correct centos and poke fun at engineer later.
scoopbot_revived: News! Scoop Testr URL: http://thethug.life/retrial/
ascii_field: this is what 'monotonic trip to the basement' means
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i meant just the churning, is it going ?
ascii_field: jurov: i'll refresh memory for ancient thread. mircea_popescu has it - i refuse to add recurring expenses when there is no revenue.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i haven't moved the domain yet
jurov: not so long ago, i have found alf a box, he declined. now he has to take whetever there is.
ascii_field: davout: mircea_popescu had the box decrufted
ascii_field discovers that he was not this retarded when having written the thing
ascii_field: and 'internal server error' otherwise
ascii_field: which happens to be sitting there
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is also invited to read the src
mircea_popescu: in the strange news line, http://www.perfil.com/sociedad/El-misterio-de-una-chica-que-estuvo-16-horas-desaparecida-20141107-0053.html
mircea_popescu: see, the exact thing happening in bitcoin, where the power rangers fell off the curve, happened long ago to wordpress.
mircea_popescu: "Moreover, Pynnonen reported the vulnerability to the WordPress team but they refused all communication attempts he made since November 2014." heh
mircea_popescu: "The vulnerability affects the WordPress versions 3.9.3, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, and the latest WordPress version 4.2."
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