asciilifeform: the whole shit soup.
asciilifeform: (go put one through disasm, if you can figure out the architecture. it's a morass of magical values being written to magical registers for magical reasons)
asciilifeform: nor is any raid chipset, afaik, documented to anything like the necessary level.
decimation: yeah I've never hear of it either
decimation: does there exist a completely open firmware for a raid controller?
decimation: heh yeah raid controllers are their own world if crazy too
asciilifeform: and then happily pop back in
asciilifeform: quite visible when they drop out of a raid for no discernible reason
asciilifeform: there are known bugs in hdd firmware
decimation: sure. somehow ram didn't escape the reach of the microshit von neumann machine, but hard disk did
asciilifeform: all such techniques are fundamentally and provably variations on same theme
decimation: somehow hard drives are allowed to have their own computers, so they implement advanced ldpc codes
asciilifeform: hards, rather
decimation: " for example. If we take the last five minutes of flight as critical due to the proximity to the ground, the lawsuit essentially says that it is more likely that a 1 in 756,000 probability event occurred (engine shutdown during a randomly selected five-minute block of operation time) than that a pilot with virtually no turbine experience or experience with the MU-2 crashed the notoriously tricky airplane through pilot error. "
asciilifeform: decimation: where did the 'breathalyzer' lawsuit go?
decimation: well, more like a function of the probability of being sued for arbitrary liability
decimation: partially for the liability, but partially also because the design is actually expected to work
asciilifeform: there is probably a tank of mortal baby seal tears in an f-22. etc
asciilifeform: you can take this to the bank.
asciilifeform: mention of xilinx is especially on the point because a bit-flip in fpga routing fabric is catastrophic
asciilifeform: re: how, famously, semiconductor folks used to buy up medieval lead roofs from cathedrals, etc. to get low-rad material
decimation: anyway, given how cheap and easy it is to use ecc ram, it does seem rather laughable that folks don't use
decimation: and also sealed the silicon in a layer of protective coating
decimation: supposedly back when ram cells were larger (larger targets) the ram manufacturers took care to ensure that their cases were low alpha emitters
decimation: yeah that's the old-school explanation
asciilifeform: rather than cosmic-anything
asciilifeform: decimation: it's far more often radioactive decay in the materials of which the machine itself is made
asciilifeform: the fact that so many folks appear to get away with using non-ecc ram is proof that almost nothing that is presently done using pc, actually matters
decimation: asciilifeform: http://lambda-diode.com/opinion/ecc-memory-2 < " Nevertheless, this means that when you buy a computer, you are playing "DIMM" (and motherboard) roulette . You have something like one chance in three to ten of getting a computer that will experience memory errors at the frightening frequencies (one every few days) that I talked about but attributed to cosmic rays, and that AMD talks about in their whitepaper . "
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2015 22:03:49; mircea_popescu: brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him.
mod6: anyway, thanks, i'll update on the next months address.
BingoBoingo: It's a kind of targeted subset of keys I'm feeding and there aren't too many
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is right about this - i invite readers to look into the basic types of aphasia
mircea_popescu: language is not the result of a single force, but of two, driving it in that left-right manner of driving splits in wood.
asciilifeform: probably the mega-winner of 'earliest' is chinese i-ching.
asciilifeform: re: this question i am interested in learning who was the first 'sailor' and what was his 'boat'.
asciilifeform: no mechanization, even of the 'napier's bones' variety, required.
mircea_popescu: and then..."
mircea_popescu: and then perpmerp had foobar who lived to 103
mircea_popescu: "and then herpderp had perpmerp who lived to 105
asciilifeform: sure. nothing directly analogous in there iirc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever read the torah ?
mircea_popescu: which is technically a step below on the literary scale. i await with bated breath the next step underwater.
mircea_popescu: of course contemporary usage is unpaid shanonizers (such as, reddit users), increasing the volume and decreasing the cost of their misrepresentations of their own social interactions.
mircea_popescu: so... it's only useful if you're making two cents a word writing "young adult fiction" or whatever other "genre" bullshit, and need shorthand to keep track of your "characters"
mircea_popescu: poorly-er done. meanly-er done, actually, in the classical sense of mean ("of mean extraction")
mircea_popescu: this exact process is at work here - it becomes much easier to write the sort of pulp cultureless usians call "novels" by proceeding on one of these accounting paradigms
mircea_popescu: harlan e has a piece where he explains how people like hubbard were optimizing their workflow by - for instance - typing on rolls of butcher paper so as to not waste time changing sheets in typewriter
mircea_popescu: anyway, i will say for the record that all this "typficiation" bullshit, from the ntjx to the mti to everything else is ~strictly~ the result of lazy writing.
mircea_popescu: there was no integrity promise made at any point.
asciilifeform: the elephant three people found in a dark room << except that it isn't a whole elephant, but just head, minus tusks, left by poachers
ben_vulpes: anyone with two neurons rubbing together can make it barf whatever rating zhe desire
mircea_popescu: it looks like the elephant three people found in a dark room.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i can vouch for the fact that the classification's nonsensical by the plain observation that i'm all over the fucking map.
ben_vulpes: yeah where is the voluntary celibacy box?
asciilifeform: it is also missing the reddit category
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: it's missing the dune/WoT polyamory
ben_vulpes: great thing about -assets is the "rewrite everything" option
Pierre_Rochard: thanks for the tip though, definitely one of the rare accounting packages I didn’t find immediately revolting
ben_vulpes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCHRQTVUoAAFnSw.png:large << heh. seems familiar, but the details are new
asciilifeform: #5 aka 'the gods smile'
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2015 14:12:57; mircea_popescu: because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116751 << asciilifeform: the lotto tixx!
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2015 13:42:00; mircea_popescu: on that litthe shitty keyboard ?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116715 << you probably grok entirely the advantage of that "tiny little keyboard" over touchscreens
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably makes things better by reducing the "GO FAST NOW BRAKE AND WASTE ALL KE NOW HURRY UP AND ACCELERATE MYRIAD TONNES OF PLASTIC AGAIN" dynamic
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i dunno but most cyclists are passive aggressive pricks may as well join in with the honking
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 00:43:28; ben_vulpes: this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117289 <<< soz but i do this, get off the road, can' t expect everyone to drive 30km/ph in a 60 zone because muh bikes
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: docs are forthcoming, I’ve added you to the repo: https://github.com/PierreRochard/pacioli
ben_vulpes: well what do they know
asciilifeform: at the flea market
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116481 << uh can i get a copy of the source and possibly some docs?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: seems like everyone i've spoken to thinks i oughta have bought the bayonet, luger, helmet, etc.
ben_vulpes: no microcontrollers on the board...
ben_vulpes: i trust you, they trust me
asciilifeform: (were it made in the usual way)
ben_vulpes: nah, i have delegated the adapter to be brought to my face
ben_vulpes: because there are two monitors and one of the chicks isn't there yet and this wine isn't going to drink itself nor these logs read themselves
mircea_popescu: i thought you folk shower in the bag.
mircea_popescu: people can be naked in the us ?
ben_vulpes: the shop is empty so i'm drinking and naked
ben_vulpes: yeah where are the bunk keys hm?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> achtung, panzers: << dawg i thought you were going to PUT THE ARCHIVE THROUGH IT ALREADY!!!1eleventyeleven
ben_vulpes: when i caught up to him at the stop light at the top of the hill, he had his phone out and was recording my endless tirade of abuse
ben_vulpes: this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us
asciilifeform: two tastes that go great together (TM) (R)
asciilifeform: doesn't mean they're entirely useless
asciilifeform: i don't need 200 worth of caltrops either
mircea_popescu: because they actually are a much larger damage than that. sort-of like insanity.
mircea_popescu: mike_c this, imo, sums up the general utility of "revolutionary websites". people don't want accounts on them even if given away with 200 dollars worth of credit attached.
ben_vulpes: close, but other meat
asciilifeform: ... or their factors.
asciilifeform: trinque: but otherwise, any
asciilifeform: trinque: ones that already have been, can be retested (push button on the page)
ben_vulpes goes for another, smaller glass of chablis
ben_vulpes: as far as i can figure, guesses (liberally sprinked with CYA) about what people did, extrapolated from their middens
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: graham << was that from the 't' article ?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115921 << "law of leaky abstractions" hurts so much more in these scenarios...
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115893 << "so, how's his english?" "pretty good, there's just this thing that happens where he occasionally says something that sounds entirely wrong and then the conversation moves on, and five minutes later I ask about it and turns out to be some throwaway joke in romanian or french or latin."
trinque: that's the one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : at battle of manzikert, spy to ars aslan : "my sultan, the enemy army is approaching us". ars aslan : "then we are approaching them as well"
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Depreciate all the DNS
BingoBoingo: Oh, look at this OpenSSH change: "sshd(8): UseDNS now defaults to 'no'. Configurations that match against the client host name (via sshd_config(5) or authorized_keys) may need to re-enable it or convert to matching against addresses." http://www.openbsd.org/57.html
ben_vulpes: "the difference between theory and practice is, uh, larger in practice than in theory" << paul graham! whatta dood
ben_vulpes: For example, there was a famous hack that provided a means of (1) removing a cons cell from a freelist, (2) updating the freelist, and (3) branching if the freelist was exhausted to the GC... in *one instruction*. << that *is* cool
williamdunne: >Displays adverts that play noise in the background.. on a video sit
williamdunne: Did the council of elders agree to this?
williamdunne: Must've accidentally trashed the email alerting me of it
mircea_popescu: give the man a tank huh
assbot: Bug 83011 – BUG_ON should be eradicated from the btrfs source tree ... ( http://bit.ly/1FB8qnm )
jurov: to make fuse filesystem to track atimes so that brtfs needs not to bother
mircea_popescu: i'm really not enough of an expert in the field to be all that confident.
mircea_popescu: even the translation is more than can be promised
mircea_popescu: there is no requirement that graph be arbitrarily traversable.
ascii_field: describe hypothetical mechanism whereby he could have hughesed.
mircea_popescu: at the time ? mebbe hughes ?
mircea_popescu: the sane were pretty much either dead under the white flag, or else involved in subverting the red.
mircea_popescu: everyone interesting was, sadly, not sane, in the su.
mircea_popescu: who was sane and in a camp in 1937 ? the jews ?!
mircea_popescu: gotta be in the past eh ?
mircea_popescu: the insane can either live in the camps nor not live at all, that's the problem there. sanity, not intelligence.
mircea_popescu: framing the discussion in terms of intellectual ability is completely missing the salient points. nobody ever gets offed for being either academically smart or stupid, it's orthogonal.
mircea_popescu: brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him.
mircea_popescu: anyway, watching the derp go about how "we need regulation" suddenly made me comprehend why exactly von meck actually belonged beheaded.
ascii_field: is there a transcript ?
ascii_field: !s hear the lamentations
ascii_field: now this, on the whole - yes.
ascii_field: the cannon do not will anything
ascii_field: it's rather like cutting up enemy cannon after a war, no ?
mircea_popescu: you have no aesthetic appreciation.
ascii_field: of what consequence are the muppets ?
mircea_popescu: honestly, my greatest regret in this life so far is that ~100k romanian ex-various state things survived the year 1990.
ascii_field: the alt.tasteless term of art, iirc, was 'to squick'
mircea_popescu: i fully intent to ejaculate down the cut throat of every single female involved.
mircea_popescu: tell you what, there's not going to be any "anastasias" out of the current imperial family.
mircea_popescu: actually, hopefully we end up in prison, like the early soviet leadership. i'm gonna write a dictionary and a history of the world.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ... consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill << nietzsche, or, far better, limonov
mircea_popescu: in short : those who do are dull. "i do not wish to think about these things, i have better stuff to do!!1". those who don't are insane. but who's to notice ? they themselves can't, the others can't be bothered. so... imperceptibly insane.
mircea_popescu: hence the problem
ascii_field: to the sane.
mircea_popescu: except the khan seems coldly sane.
mircea_popescu: well... you know, the junkie is also imperceptibly addicted.
ascii_field: only because 'running the asylum'
mircea_popescu: if i were younger and more bored (really, less involved with actual things) i might consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill.
mircea_popescu: antonio doria, before being cut down by the french at crecy, was a rather successful genoese pirate. the pirate captain's regime collapsed over his (and others) failure to pay.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there was this mildly famous gay boy of athens whose name escapes me at the moment, literally got a whole trireme detachment on unbacked promises of great pay (from persia iirc ?) and well... there they sat.
mircea_popescu: if dandolo had any sense they'd have plowed and salted constantinople, and sold all the women to the turks.
mircea_popescu: moral : democracy is for the mentally ill ; the rewards of democracy are rape and arson, often enough delivered with the same stick.
mircea_popescu: V. they decide to conquer the fucking city. because by now they've got an inkling of the pure filth the greeks are. so they do, and burn it, and cauterize the place.
mircea_popescu: IV. the "crowdsource" revolts. this alters "reality" once more, their guy is promptly poisoned.
mircea_popescu: III. they take adrianople, and their presence alters "reality" as the greeks perceive it. so their guy is named co-emperor.
mircea_popescu: II.b. and further promised them the "pearl in heavens", a very classical device in greek gay drama (since at least the days of darius, this empty promises as a path to military glory. the greeks invented "fake it till you make it")
mircea_popescu: II.a. random byzantine (militarily worthless, intellectually overpowering) entity convinces them to help him "recover" his "stolen" throne, as if the byzantines ever did anything else or anyone had a valid claim, or the possibility of a valid claim even existed in their world.
mircea_popescu: so, I. a bunch of militarily powerful, intellectually naive westerners made an army to go beat up the muslims and take jerusalem.
mircea_popescu: and for the promised fourth crusade story :
mircea_popescu: "my being here is more expensive than the whole fucking shop would cost to build"
ascii_field: (driver license sent in the post)
ascii_field: i no longer have to queue at 'dmv' either
mircea_popescu: what is that ? go queue at the dmv. why not ?
mircea_popescu: like the keeper of a bunch of slaves.
mircea_popescu: and this is set to aggravate, by the way. physical presence becoming rarer and rarer and expensiver and expensiver, the necessary result of the interplay of its rarity with the above mental condition is that
mircea_popescu: no, in other words mentally ill.
ascii_field: in other words lazy ?
jurov: if i imported it on my bosy, what are they to do?
jurov: i have long time ago won an ipod mini from ibm. ofc they sent it by post and it was clear case for customs how much such ipod costs and asked a tax
mod6: To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition. << lol
ascii_field: but in the post - not lazy ?
ascii_field: hence the pogo suitcase, aha
ascii_field: as far as i'm concerned, historically, ebay is just this gizmo that shaves a zero off the price of the costliest things i buy. so i was never moved to care whether it is run by hitler or fueled with baby seal juice etc.
mod6: the thing is pretty neat
ascii_field: jurov: most vendors will work with you if you're willing to pay the actual cost
jurov: ascii_field: UPS ships everywere, but the vendors don't want to
mod6: The "Private Eye"?
mircea_popescu: by the way, lemme recount the fourth crusade for the benefit of the awareness-raising crowd-sourced crowd.
ascii_field saw a 747 marked 'ups' in b-ar airport. so perhaps even there.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it works FROM mongolia. << I've had to use my USian powers to ask sellers questions potential buyers could not ask because they were outside USia
ascii_field: i even bought items from ru, they came in wooden crates
assbot: Parallel Port Interface to the Private Eye P4 Head-Mounted Display ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3X5zq )
ascii_field: http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html << example of item i bought on ebay. where the fuck else is it even physically possible to get one of these? sotheby's? it took 5+ yrs of searching, too
mod6: i think the only thing I've ever gotten off ebay was an UltraSPARC II box
ascii_field: virtually all of my tools, incidentally, come from ebay and for most of my life i could not have obtained them anywhere else.
ascii_field: the shops only supply items 'for the cattle' - that is, most common-as-dirt and aggressively spamvertized
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they are not entirely unobtainable in usa. just, again, have to buy online.
mircea_popescu: amusingly : the normal cellphone "sunk". in the us. it's amply abundant and vastlyt supplied in the real world tho.
ascii_field: but, for example, ebay may well become the only practical source for amd cpu where i live, once amd finally sinks
mircea_popescu: it all flows from the whole "we can't ~private~ message if we don't have a private relationship" thing. da fuck would i be doing on "online marketplace", dunno anyone there.
mircea_popescu: which is why from my point of view the whole thing is dross. i don't buy the stuff you're talking about and why wouldn't i want to be in a shop.
ascii_field: from my point of view, the whole rest of ebay is dross
ascii_field: esp. when the rare things in question are not 'collectible' idiocies but obscure components
ascii_field: the 'buy and sell only rare things' heuristic - perhaps accidentally - more or less eliminates scammers, in my experience
mircea_popescu: ascii_field similarly, the "reputation system" works perfectly for anyone not using it.
chetty: much like banks these days :P
chetty: the issue with ebay,paypal etc. is they can and do close and freeze accounts anytime they feel like it
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ebay works well for getting 'golden toilets' for their actual market price vs the usg tentacular price
mircea_popescu: afaik they only got out of the mtgox business ("collectibles") cca 2005 or someshit.
ascii_field: ebay was an improvement on the latter.
mircea_popescu: in any case, a) ebay hasn't been around for 20 years, b) 20 years is only a long time because you're too young to be "thinking about things" and c) the notion that ebay's abomination works... AAA plus would do thinks again.
mircea_popescu: WolfGoethe it's kinda funny that someone feels compelled to pitch this sort of retardation here about every quarter.
trinque: this pressuposes that you want everyone at the table, which I don't.
trinque: either they can and therefore could use one distinct from an applcation, or they can't and neither works
trinque: this design-by-condescension thing isn't something I get behind; that "the people" can't understand a WoT... who cares
WolfGoethe: trinque that's not realsitic, decentralizing things like that is another huge project, cannot mvp such a thing. ebay has their own internal system for 20 years, works
trinque: this is why we have the WoT
WolfGoethe: essentially crowd sourcing the swift network to the people. let them be the on and off ramps
jurov: WolfGoethe how do you decide if counterparty is legit?