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mircea_popescu: i don't think they stand a chance in europe, for teh record.
jurov: and when will they come to europe
mats: i'm still strapped in, gonna reevaluate my position when they finally produce an electric utility truck
jurov: price seems fair, i'd like to see how quickly will they able to produce
danielpbarron: seems as though the stock pogo is configured to look for a TFTP server without any modification -> bootcmd=bootp; setenv bootargs root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=${serverip}:${rootpath} ip=${ipaddr}:${serverip}:${gatewayip}:${netmask}:${hostname}::off; bootm
ascii_field: davout: they apply on top of v1
davout: meh, nvm, i'll do the full version first, and dumb it down afterwards
davout: (starting with the 'simple' version of my guide)
davout: so i'm currently connected to the Pogo through SSH, pretty easy so far
ascii_field: danielpbarron: all it does is dump/write the reserved 2nd half of mtd0
danielpbarron: what is the easiest way to make your own fw_printenv ? is this something that come out of the same process that makes the kernel ?
trinque: I stuck a debian install on one of the attached drives as a workspace
danielpbarron: yes, so what is the easiest way to get fw_printenv on a new unit ? just copy it over from workstation ? or is it easier to reflash with your own kernel using the stock nandwrite tool
ascii_field: simplest way is to get those utils on the stock os (sftp copy, or wget) and use.
danielpbarron: and can also be used from the OS, but they don't come standard with an unmodified pogo
trinque: should be able to spot it; the value of it names other vars iirc comma separated
trinque: there was some command to dump out all vars
trinque: danielpbarron: one of the vars in there sets the boot order
assbot: Logged on 29-03-2015 18:21:35; asciilifeform: ^ so in principle these can be reimplemented with the nand tools i have included.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2015#1078941 << how to initially get fw_printenv to tell pogo to boot kernel over TFTP in the future?
ascii_field pictures a sciencefiction story, set in the world of 'shall be delivered', about a fella who forgot a key and goes to a specialist who 'helps remember'
davout: heh, guess you're right, happened to me back in the day, guess my brain at the time recorded 80€ as 'holy shit, lots of money'
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, ask fowler (https://twitter.com/WomenSouthern) if she wants to do a "shit southern women say about bitcoin" sponsored thing ?
davout: "So... You changed the name of your service so you could be on top of an obscure list? Taras (talk) 20:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)" <<< that's pretty SOP with locksmiths in the yellow pages
mircea_popescu: 5 btc ? sure, he could amortize $1000 in advertising expenses just as soon as the wiki gets twelve trillion pageviews or something.
Luke-Jr: I just wanted to LOL at the convo with RockHoster earlier. I was going to say "the maintainer doesn't *need* to be unbiased", but then I saw https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User_talk:RockHoster
ascii_field: 'does the pope shit in the woods'
mircea_popescu: as time went by, the two were merged into one, and so...
mircea_popescu: the ~other~ stock 1=1 answer being, "does the pope wear a funny hat"
mircea_popescu: trinque see, if you've ever seen if (1=1) in code you comprehend this literary device. "have you ever whipped a woman ?" "does the bear shit in the woods ?"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field people are on reddit so as to be with other like minded people. it is a social function. what words they say... "world's best dad!"
assbot: BadBIOS & other sources emit Transcranial Ultrasound ('TUS') which down-regulates neural activity causing dead zombie brain : badBIOS ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqsaEk )
mircea_popescu: btw, you know how the pope hat thing came about ?
mircea_popescu: see, but that's the sort of person that's worth getting drunk
trinque: "does the pope shit in his hat?"
trinque: mircea_popescu: my biz partner's dad has all kinds of them
mircea_popescu: "he's so dumb, he could throw himself on the ground and miss"
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mircea_popescu: so listen alf, i had an exceptional plate of deviled eggs last night... ate 18^H^H 19^H^H 27 of the suckers
mircea_popescu: for that matter, cold fusion is just as theoretically possible.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. just pointing out to you that while it is theoretically possible, it is improbable it ever was practically achieved either by accident or by hobbists.
ascii_field: people do not plug speakers into their teeth << bone conduction
mircea_popescu: moreover, the "listening to cia" people do not plug speakers into their teeth.
mircea_popescu: but the diode was not made out of your dead dog.
mircea_popescu: this is strictly correct. an item tampered with by the government is not, legally, an item distinct from an item not tampered with by the government.
mircea_popescu: we can in fact calculate the power of the cia antenna required. correct ?
mircea_popescu: now, seeing how vibration in the audible frequency for teeth has a calculable minimum,
trinque: average texans are not at all afraid of the idea of secession
ascii_field: the physical principle - is sound, demonstrated.
trinque: somebody in the south needs to start screaming about anti-communism and they'd get far.
ascii_field: let's peek back a few decades to the folks who were listening to cia broadcasts with their tooth amalgams
mircea_popescu: in a "consumer driven" ideas market... the "ideas" will look like the derps.
mats: readers of the log: badBIOS is a hoax, although the principle of the thing is entirely achievable
ascii_field: i do not know if they grow naturally or have to be cultivated - but they serve this purpose.
ascii_field: mats: the kind of schizo that seems to live and breathe solely to discredit actual investigation into usg shenanigans
trinque: I consider TX a highly redeemable part of the US
mircea_popescu: same "they're moving up and down on a patch of land ; we're moving up and down on a patch of land. what the hell's the difference!"
mats: its amusing there's an actual /r/badBIOS subreddit
mircea_popescu: reads a lot like the stories of the "web start-up culture"
mircea_popescu: there's some contemporary records of "trying to get a cotton farm going", by people without the resoruces and without the intelligence to understand resources at all.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they did not even need to exterminate them to vacate space, because most of the soil was not cotton-grade.
mircea_popescu: bad move, too. idleness is the mother of devilness or how's that called.
trinque: with proper walls around them
trinque: there are parts of cities you can't possibly live in without wealth
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: according to cash, it was rather because southern states ran extraction economy of soil and slave, but did not need the non-planter whites for anything - so left alone (as 'fremen', in 'dune')
trinque: in previous conversations about the need for privilege it has occurred to me that tx seems to have this
mircea_popescu: in a sense it was the HRE of the american continent.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field in any case the wisdom was to keep the taxes low and the government minimal, because large plantation owners know best what to do with resources.
trinque: southerners like their govts dysfunctional at best
ascii_field: had interesting thesis - that cotton only worked on small fraction of land available, and the rest was left mostly alone to the non-slaveholding inhabitants, with minimal statal footprint
Adlai: and/or "The Killer Angels"
ascii_field: see also 'the mind of the south' (w. j. cash) - mega-recommended
Adlai: the south considered themselves closer to the commonwealth than to the yanks
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ascii_field hasn't enough exposure to the former, to say
mircea_popescu: by the way, am i the only foreigner that thinks southern dialects a lot more expressive, interesting and developed than yankee english ?
ascii_field: it's rather like those baobab-like trees in buenos aires
mircea_popescu: ascii_field is he the ninjashoo /
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Earlier this year Chin-hao Hu and Pai-tsung Hsu over the process of generating a Bitcoin transaction offline for which they would assign "Intellectual Property" rights to themselves." << missing verb ?
mircea_popescu: people and their productions.
mircea_popescu: "oh, can't get in". "well... so from the other perspective... you no longer exist ?"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field more on point : consider how much of the windows turdball self-cleanned by simply making gpg required for voice here.
mircea_popescu: because by now what the usians do is slightly more relevant than what the mongols do.
Adlai: somehow the streets of tel aviv are still paved with cement, beneath the dog shit
mircea_popescu: yes. but the world IS.
ascii_field: poor analogy. usians still can't rid themselves of 120v
mircea_popescu: moreover, once the mice are killed, the shit self-cleans.
trinque: mircea_popescu | and for the record, i hope the us feminazis win the war and castrate each and every us white male with a college degree. << heh, my balls are safe then
ascii_field: but mircea_popescu has a point, in that it is necessary to kill the mice before cleaning up their shit - otherwise it is a waste of time, there will be infinite shit
mircea_popescu: yes. from the fontanelle to the spine.
ascii_field: the tech stack is rotten all the way down.
mircea_popescu: even basic would work, if not for them.
mircea_popescu: from paul graham to the rackhoster derp above.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the only shit here is in the heads of, again, every white us male with a college degree.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, i hope the us feminazis win the war and castrate each and every us white male with a college degree.
mircea_popescu: the path from the current FOSS, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine
mircea_popescu: especially the "document everything i do" part.
davout: i think both are required, one for the folks who want to inspect, audit or otherwise fuck with the device, and one to turn a crate of stock pogos into node as fast as possible
davout: but i guess it can also be fun to do the whole thing, maybe i'll end-up with two sets of docs the "advanced" version and the "i just want this goddamn thing running" version
davout: ascii_field: my mission is to idiot-proof the process :D
davout: danielpbarron ascii_field ah i see, i wasn't aware that alf had a pre-built kernel that's to be used, i'll work from there, also i'll document everything I do, so maybe you won't need to spend time updating your docs
Adlai: "A female juror had accused her male colleague of trying to poison her food, and on Tuesday Marino mentioned that the conflict may have involved an avocado sandwich."
ascii_field: davout, danielpbarron: to build kernel, see my instructions on the listserv
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "jury of your peers" in the us = "the mentally ill"
mircea_popescu: The judge said on Wednesday that letting 10 jurors proceed, not 12, amounted to "uncharted territory," but Marino said that his client agreed to the smaller jury."
davout: danielpbarron: which i'm not (doing the serial thing), so it's not very clear to me how to build the kernel and software that'll actually run on the pogo once it's ready
mircea_popescu: "The conviction came two days after the judge overseeing the case removed two jurors after a conflict between the two marred deliberations.
ascii_field: 'A female juror had accused her male colleague of trying to poison her food, and on Tuesday Marino mentioned that the conflict may have involved an avocado sandwich.'
danielpbarron: all you need is to install some sort of TFTP server on your workstation, and use the built in flashing tools of pogo to set some parameters to connect to your workstation when it boots
danielpbarron: davout, only necessary if your doing the serial connection soldering thing
danielpbarron: davout, yeah that's why i'm rewriting; it's about the workstation connecting to pogo
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davout: danielpbarron: in your docs, 2.2.2 refer to building a kernel for the workstation talking to the pogo, not building a kernel for the pogo itself, or am i heavily confused?
ascii_field: ^ the down side of how 'unobtrusive' disk cache is implemented on linux is that if ram is 'redlined' to the hilt, there is - approximately - no disk caching at all.
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danielpbarron: the 5400 rpm one with an up-to-date data dir copied in goes just fast enough to stay about 200 blocks behind the rest of the network at all times; perhaps slowly losing ground
mircea_popescu: almost there danielpbarron
danielpbarron: comes as no surprise to me; that's exactly the bottle neck i ran into when first getting into running a node
ascii_field: so pogo node lives or dies by the actual speed of the drive.
ascii_field: <danielpbarron> on a related note, my 5400 rpm pogo cannot sync << i spoke of this briefly at c3. the almost deadly-certain explanation is that there is no ram to spare for the customary disk cache
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: did the ssd make it ?
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:44:09; mats: another fun fact: Android doesn't seem to implement the only BLE key exchange mechanism not vulnerable to eavesdropping.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117836 << coincidentally, the coincidental coincidences coincide.
davout: ascii_field: i have the physical pogos you gave me, an ethernet cable, a power adapter, an internet connection, a few usb sticks, a working debian, and a 120gb sata disk that fits in the pogo. what's the easiest way to set it up as a bitcoin node
davout: ascii_field: so what's the simplest way of doing it?
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 16:14:34; davout: hrm.. i was under the impression it was possible to somehow re-flash the pogo from a simple USB stick without soldering anything
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:22:10; pete_dushenski: or using serial comm software other than minicom ??
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:21:39; pete_dushenski: ^has anyone set one of these up with freebsd using instructions other than those found here ? http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/
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pete_dushenski: lulz. $lnkd -25% on the week. go social media go !
davout: yeah, the curl bit if i understand correctly
danielpbarron: the thing has a built in method for turning on ssh without any extreme modifications, and from there you can do all else
davout: so the first thing i should do is try to access it through SSH, and work from there, right?
davout: ok, sounds much better wrt industrializing their setup
danielpbarron: as long as you don't botch the re-flash, it should be possible to do everything over ethernet
davout: haha, ok nice, guess i'm going to put the pogo back together then :-)
davout: hrm.. i was under the impression it was possible to somehow re-flash the pogo from a simple USB stick without soldering anything
davout: danielpbarron: so, do you have instructions on how to set up the pogo? does it necessarily imply soldering wizardry?
pete_dushenski: instead of establishing a serial connection with 'edgeos' first, i installed freebsd on the usb drive first
pete_dushenski: okie dokie, pete the n00b might've just isolated the issue...
danielpbarron: if you do wind up using ubuntu, the live cd is suitable ; you can even "install" screen to the temporary system without actually writing to your hard drive
danielpbarron: i'm surprised it says the file doesn't exist when you say you saw it in /dev/
danielpbarron: for me, the serial adapter is numbered
danielpbarron: 115200 is the baud rate
danielpbarron: for me, serial adapter is only accessible as root, although i think i read somewhere there are things you can do to make it work for other users
danielpbarron: "A collection of scripts that work together to manage multiple invocations of GNU Screen to overcome some of its limitations on Mac OS X."
danielpbarron: because that's the most annoying part really
pete_dushenski: setting up the edgerouter with freebsd is proving to be exactly that!
mats: another fun fact: Android doesn't seem to implement the only BLE key exchange mechanism not vulnerable to eavesdropping.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: forgive my late arrival to the thread, but why are we talking about screen on os x?
mats: so... given that the out of band key exchange is the most difficult to implement, that's effectively a selective backdoor.
mats: Fun fact: the BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) spec provides three key exchange mechanisms, two of the three which do not provide any passive eavesdropping protection
danielpbarron: i'm reading the thing you pasted, and the instructions are very similar to adulterating a pogo
mats: i like the idea of wireless headphones but the bluetooth stack is horribly damaged
danielpbarron: not so bad; i used ubuntu to do that with pogo for my first attempted after soldering the serial thing onto it
pete_dushenski: mats: i don't see the appeal of wireless headphones, mostly because they're another thing to charge with another cable
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, oh you mean use ubuntu on the machine from which you are connecting to the edgerouter/
mats needs to read the linux kernel
mats: i never figured out why, but the kernel seemed convinced there was a hardware switch thrown someplace
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: or using serial comm software other than minicom ??
pete_dushenski: ^has anyone set one of these up with freebsd using instructions other than those found here ? http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/
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pete_dushenski: despite the practical limitations, it's still cool to be ginormous.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 10:10:47; jurov: yes these are biggest problems phoudation has to fix first
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117673 << it's funny tho, all the fraudulent pretense. "oh, a guy we never met is a founding director, because we wish to have the implication of legitimacy that would offer. next we make george washington founding director, and edit his wikipedia to say he founded the us and our turd"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117664 << i'd love nothing more than to disrupt their economy to the point they're left begging on street corners.
williamdunne: Before I think it was data allowance, price, location and if they allow tor or not
mircea_popescu: i was under the impression "vps hosting" is the new "unlimited shared hosting" thing of the 2000s.
mircea_popescu: a) they're all the same size and b) every tide washes more in.
williamdunne: Google a bunch of them, put their location and offerings on the list
mircea_popescu: williamdunne how the fuck are you going to make a neutral list of "vps hosters" anyway.
williamdunne: RockHoster_: You'll be on the list, you get no "special" benefit. I can't be biased towards you I will be neutral
mircea_popescu: RockHoster_ looky here : the REASON you don't have 1 btc to throw away is that you're spedning your time trying to manipulate an obscure wiki nobody gives a shit about.
williamdunne: And its 4 BTC upfront, then 1 per month after that
williamdunne: Well then don't, I offered my personal price. Take it or leave it
mircea_popescu: RockHoster_ were you one of the participants in the "fight to be on the top" ?
mircea_popescu: the weird wales has wrounght on the interwebs.
williamdunne: And they can't be biased towards you ofc
mircea_popescu: williamdunne the two propositions are contradictory neh ?
williamdunne: If its worth enough for you to come here, the price should be worth it. Not surprised that it drove a fair bit of traffic
mircea_popescu: williamdunne afaik they restricted new accounts because nobody was giving a shit and there was too much spam
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mircea_popescu: admin of what ? bitcoin ? the wiki you linked ? the dns system ?
mircea_popescu: 'sthematter ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Pierre_Rochard: ;;later tell davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116638 I’ve added you to the github repo, I’ll pull together install instructions over the weekend
davout: my goal when setting up the pogo is to end up with a full walkthrough that looks roughly like this -> http://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/assembly_instructions/stuva-grundlig-corbeille-en-fil__AA-420855-2_pub.PDF
davout: asciilifeform: so i have finally acquired a dedicated SSD and a euro-plug adapter for the pogo, where do i start?
jurov: (i know miner and node is not the same thing but could not resist)
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jurov: yes these are biggest problems phoudation has to fix first
mircea_popescu: the people left behind always suck.
mircea_popescu: africa doesn't suck because "black people suck". africa sucks because africa is the people who were left behind.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 03:43:02; decimation: http://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/baltimore-cop-in-the-hood/ < "Of course, another thing is that most people who can leave have left. And so, in these pockets, how can you have good community relations when a substantial number of people are actively or passively involved in crime? I think there are a lot of cops that just say, “Fuck ‘em, they want burn their neighborhood, let ‘em.” But on the othe
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 03:42:41; asciilifeform: 'in a bad neighbourhood, what specifically is bad? is it the concrete, glass, steel?' -- ilkka kokkarinen
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117617 << yes. most of the us, like most of mongolia, like poor india, is specifically bad because bad climate, horrible buildings, vastly misused concrete, steel, etc.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER they also promised all sorts of shit. in exchange. where is it ?"
mircea_popescu: that's perhaps the true subtext there. "they told me not to grab womyn butt. okay, i don't. they told me not to hunt deer off the highway. ok, i don't. they told me not to make fire indoors. alright. and i don't smoke either, and apparently coke is bad. i liked coke but whatever.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 03:40:37; decimation: of course, the deep expectation is that the world ought to be a red carpet, upon which said paranoid ought to be able to trample at leisure
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117611 << it'd help a lot if it simply abstained from getting in the way.
mircea_popescu: apparently the double accounting thing is obvious by now.
mircea_popescu: "On the optimism bias, while I’ve known that these numbers have been consistently too optimistic, I always assumed that the senior leadership of the fed had access to the real data, and the numbers put out for the public were heavily, well, decorated."
mircea_popescu: decimation : all it takes is for the entire "law enforcement" thing to be broken once. its own manzikert moment.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 02:58:55; asciilifeform: decimation: it's far more often radioactive decay in the materials of which the machine itself is made
mircea_popescu: prolly going to be an endless parade as we enter into the last phase. buffett started it.
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decimation: asciilifeform: what composes the 'federal gendarmerie'? fbi?
decimation: ^warning to people who want to enter the us police chumpatron
asciilifeform: decimation: nah. the federal gendarmerie
decimation: "We tell them to do the best they can, and then when an individual cop messes up, everybody blames the police. And cops feel strangely victimized by this system — they’re put in the middle and used as political tools."
asciilifeform: the folks currently preventing them from acting on this desire - are the actual rulers.
asciilifeform: ^ betcha many of these cops would -love- to close a perimeter around these snakepits and shoot everything that moves, for sport.
asciilifeform: 'A former Baltimore cop explains things: ... The same idiots who burned shit down Monday, they’re gonna be there today and tomorrow. The cops are always dealing with them, whether they’re burning things down or not. They’re always there.'
decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently the wise masters who run east st. louis have better things upon which to spend their tax dollars/bonds/whatever
decimation: putting their lives on the line to save their city."
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decimation: http://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/baltimore-cop-in-the-hood/ < "Of course, another thing is that most people who can leave have left. And so, in these pockets, how can you have good community relations when a substantial number of people are actively or passively involved in crime? I think there are a lot of cops that just say, “Fuck ‘em, they want burn their neighborhood, let ‘em.” But on the other hand, the cops are out there
asciilifeform: 'in a bad neighbourhood, what specifically is bad? is it the concrete, glass, steel?' -- ilkka kokkarinen
decimation: BingoBoingo: is there even much traffic there?
asciilifeform: decimation: paranoia is not really the magic here, in most cases - more like standard narcissism as painted by tlp
BingoBoingo: decimation: In East St Louis there are Stop Signs mounted to the traffic control lights
decimation: of course, the deep expectation is that the world ought to be a red carpet, upon which said paranoid ought to be able to trample at leisure
asciilifeform: t. dalrymple (see logs) had many wonderful stories of his patients (he was a prison shrink for some years) who saw police, judges, etc. as malevolent martians persecuting them 'for no reason at all'
decimation: and apparently any unwanted changes can easily be explained by the evil conspiracy of 'they'
asciilifeform: to chimp (of whatever colour upholstery) his surroundings merely 'happen' to him, they are 'given', yes.
asciilifeform: in, iirc (school was long ago) specifically these wordfs
decimation: community centers, they take away our fathers, and now we have traffic lights that don’t work, we have houses that are crumbling, falling down.”"
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decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/us/baltimore-riots.html?_r=1 < more lol "Near the burned-out CVS, Robert Wilson, a college student who went to high school in Baltimore, said: “With the riots, we’re not trying to act like animals or thugs. We’re just angry at the surroundings, like this is all that is given to us, and we’re tired of this, like nobody wants to wake up and see broken-down buildings. They take away the
BingoBoingo: If I recall Clitler in the 1990's promised to press her husband to do similar
asciilifeform: ^ the legend
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asciilifeform: !s if you ask again there will be problems
asciilifeform: they can mention what they want:
decimation: the interesting point will be to see if anyone even mentions it in the presidential campaign
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently the story was suddenly uninteresting
asciilifeform: the whole snowden thing seems to have been quietly multiplied by 0, and nobody noticed.
decimation: they hardly look like baltimore residents
decimation: and also try moving the drives from one controller to another (even same make and model)
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