mircea_popescu: this isn't a worry. this is empathy. i understand how fucked the bug is, even as i crush it under my boot. it is, after all, a bug.
mircea_popescu: bitch, i don't "worry" about the future. i know what capital formation is, and what ownership is, and so on. these kids will never matter, because they will never own anything, and because they don't even know what that means.
mircea_popescu: who would have thought, the us copying mexico. except, of course, everyone aware of history.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> unrelated >> http://newsru.com/world/01may2015/mexico.html << (possibly) zetas shoot down a chopper << how convenient for the us that mexico is actually going through the motions ahead of it.
decimation: "Guest: Let's think about how strange that observation is. You're absolutely right. But just to drive home the point of how strange that is, this worry the people have, you and many others, is occurring at exactly the same time that Thomas Piketty has become famous making exactly the opposite claim--that the capitalists are doing better and better and the workers are doing worse and worse"
decimation: is, 'Well, what's the point?' They look at their savings accounts, they are getting pennies. Pennies. And it's a fool's game."
decimation: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/04/scott_sumner_on.html < "One of the things that disturbs me about the current world--and this is irrational, I suppose--but it bothers me that my children are growing up in a time when the return to setting money aside for the future is close to zero. So, when you say to them, 'You could save some money and don't have to buy everything with the money you have,' their response, which is correct,
trinque: ah the great dick revolution of 2022
BingoBoingo: Break their spirit
BingoBoingo: Let NSA see all the dick pics
BingoBoingo: Nah, you send the dick pics on Snapchat so NSA can see and become demoralized and desensitized
trinque: postfix is ancient braindamage of a whole other category
trinque: yeh I can twiddle the knobs on postfix, wouldn't mind sharing
ben_vulpes: just us children of the cloud
asciilifeform: <danielpbarron> [,duh'pib] or [,duh'puhb] or ['dee'pee'bee] << I go with the third << i favour 'dehpehbeh', like 'kgb' is pronounced. but that's just me.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I more astounded the "privacy" crowd still uses IMAP over POP3
trinque: "When Arvo is working, ^C cancels the event it's working on. This event never happened. Don't worry, nothing bad will happen to your computer."
trinque: asciilifeform: would probably help one assess the ideas if it were possible to tell what they are
BingoBoingo: Oh, look what the theater people are calling a vulnerability nao https://tails.boum.org/security/claws_mail_leaks_plaintext_to_imap/
ben_vulpes ricocheted off the thing
asciilifeform: the whole thing is/was an explicit, entirely deliberate departure from commonly-held 'sanity' and in so far as it was this, it was worth paying attention to.
asciilifeform: trinque: at least initially, he used syllable gen to name -all- the ops
asciilifeform: iirc this version was in the early non-advertised src
asciilifeform: at least - some of them
ben_vulpes: word from officemates was "this is the perfect thing to write in c!"
asciilifeform: then so does cdadar et al.
asciilifeform: at any rate, there is a time & place for everything - even this
ben_vulpes: "give me this really specific leaf on the tree plz"
asciilifeform: and so does the not-yet-come-to-b-a ldb.
ben_vulpes: look danielpbarron there's a function in common lisp named for you!
mod6: well, actually, best to talk about this later when i actually /have/ the stuff. heheh.
mod6: hmm. how do you regulate the input voltage?
mod6: there is a 75pc wire pack looks like i might need too, ~$5
asciilifeform: mod6: that's one of the 2 types you saw at c3.
mod6: is this what it looks like with the pins then? http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/181716608732?lpid=82&chn=ps
asciilifeform: if not very practiced with soldering iron, get the variant with pins
mod6: ah there we go..
asciilifeform: ^ goes with the pogo serial thing
mod6: ok. i've gotta read through all of the docs & logs like 3 times before I play with it.
asciilifeform: the soldering thing is not 100% essential
mod6: asciilifeform: this instance is a "m3.medium" which is allocated 3.75 gb RAM. the units in "free" and vmstat [free,buff,cache] are in bytes.
scoopbot_revived: The very hard and unrewarding life of Ismail http://trilema.com/2015/the-very-hard-and-unrewarding-life-of-ismail/
mircea_popescu: the facts usually aren't. the effort and sheer flailing people expend at trying topretend otherwise...
asciilifeform came very early in life to the realization that most people - and their problems - are simply not very interesting
mircea_popescu: yeah, medical malpractice tends to be mostyly bathetic
asciilifeform: though the jury thing was an epic lulzfest
mircea_popescu: i dunno what us you live in, but the civil docket is A LOT lulzier than this. if there were a lulzy sorting algo i'd prolly never see a judge.
asciilifeform somehow forgot that there is not a magical exception for especially lulzy cases
mircea_popescu: and no. i dunno what us you live in, but civil cases do not go to trail the same year
asciilifeform: has the thing hit courtroom yet ?
mircea_popescu: in other words, meat is cheap
asciilifeform: mod6: what are the units ?
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mod6: I started it up few days ago just after I looked over the Orphanage_Thermonuke Patch: # ps aux | grep "bitcoind"
BingoBoingo: "All three cases are bad news. Bitcoin Core does not restart itself automatically. If a node dies or freezes up it requires the owner to notice restart it manually, each and every time." << Why should bitcoind care to restart itself? That's what python is for.
asciilifeform: somebody tell the poor philippinos to give it a rest.
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2015 23:40:11; mod6: here's today's update from the v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_Thermonuke: http://dpaste.com/0MGZ7M2.txt
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2015#1124452 << how long has this been going ? and what are the units? and what even is this heathen thing
cazalla: just gotta poison the missus' camellias so i can get some passionfruit vines in there or something else
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i'm hoping to replace everything here with edible plants.. axed down some random tree here (went axe instead of chainsaw) to make room for maybe a mulberry in the spring.. stump was a cunt to get out the ground
cazalla: i did pick up another guava from the local bunnings a few days ago, a pineapple guave to go with my cherry one
cazalla: bunnings, masters hardware.. were cheap places to get cheap tools but seeing australia no longer manufacturers anything, the big stores charge aussie prices for cheap chinese shit because where else ya gonna go?
mircea_popescu: well, no guns because not legal in australia, and no chickens because they;re not licensed to run a brothel.
BingoBoingo: It's the sort of place where you can pick up petunias, hatchling chickens, new pants, and an AR-15 all in one convenient location.
BingoBoingo: Hopefully the rosebush does well enough to pirate it next year.
BingoBoingo: masaging the roots seems it spent a bit long in the two gallon container and could have done well in a larger one.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, they look a little wilted as is normal for a transplant but not much. seem they'll be fine
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's some sort of rose called "Double Knockout" which I find funny because abuse of genetics term by a plant geneticist. Not much to congratulate me on yet. All I did was pick them up from Rural King and put them in a hole.
trinque: sorting transactions by fees and dumping off the tail-end solves everything he brings up re: mempool getting too full
BingoBoingo: Because they still pretend to identity and need that stripped so that they be dumped naked in the cold rain
trinque: "Miners would include free transactions ordered by “priority” as they do today (calculated as coin age times value), and they’d do it because circulating bitcoins are valuable bitcoins."
trinque: "Neither me nor Gavin believe a fee market will work as a substitute for the inflation subsidy."
trinque: ben_vulpes: that dude uses the word "believe" a lot
funkenstein_: if netscape goes down, the internet is broken right?
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> does wordpress have that feature? << yes. if i change an url both the old and the new work, and the old redirects to the new
BingoBoingo: Knockout is the branded genetics.
funkenstein_ recalls the story of the double knockout mice, missing both seratonin and dopamine, whom researchers still hooked on cocaine
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Yeah, but apparently bred for said genetics rather than monsanto'd.
funkenstein_: so the "double knockout" refers to some genetics?
joecool: even has option to point old dead links to the web archive
joecool: there's a plugin that'll scan nightly for broken links you can use on wordpress
ben_vulpes: <Pierre_Rochard> ^ they’re afraid of dead links. Why they don’t simply reroute to the new url is a mystery to me << that'd require having some kind of a clue
Pierre_Rochard: “If I had an easy way and a non-risk way of shorting a whole lot of 20- or 30-year bonds, I’d do it,” < If I had a non-risk way of doing anything in the financial markets, I’d do it too...
Pierre_Rochard: ^ they’re afraid of dead links. Why they don’t simply reroute to the new url is a mystery to me
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: kinda the implication, neh?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wait, wait... he no longer believes in the future of america ra ra ra ?
joecool: but i have L1 through the bot
mircea_popescu: Palfrader is iirc the tor derp
mircea_popescu: meh. actually, after a cursory look over the top 1k : http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/doc/top_1000.html it'd seem to me this wot is pretty much taken over.
ascii_field does not have the definition handy
mircea_popescu: ascii_field btw, i don't think the pairs solution is the best thing. how about the following : cut keys into three groups. 1. keys that were submitted to web from outside ; 2. keys in the strong set ; 3. everything else. and always process 1, or if 1 empty 2, or if empty 3.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, by now linux is windowized enough. they can release their shit for systemd/ubuntu/glibc-with-modules/etc and pretty much have it right.
ascii_field: in other news, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-VS-Code-IDE-Linux << pigs flying with massive jet engines, microshit vs for linux.
mircea_popescu: the salacious sex stuff not so much, but perpetual fraud, slapp/frivolous litigation and general mismanagement, sure.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyway, if that's what you're trying to establish, i can confirm the broad points.
mircea_popescu: the string is arbitrary.
ascii_field: (wtf is the point of signing something that no one can verify ?)
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: signature under the pierce thing on paste linked earlier
mircea_popescu: hitting all the talking points of the weirdo right in exact order, "please god" and "sex tool" and errything ?
mircea_popescu: is this what 14 yos write in their sucide notes ?!
mircea_popescu: Another alleged victim, Daniel, tells a similar story. After being subjected to sexual abuse at M&C, he wrote a suicide note: "I can't stop crying! Please God help me. I can't go on. I let them use me as a sex tool. I let those assholes do all those terrible things to me. Goodbye." His brother found the note and alerted their parents before Daniel made any attempt on his life.
mircea_popescu: another one sprung up ?
fluffypony: you had to be naked to do so." In an exclusive interview, Mike E. confirms having been forced to engage in anal and oral intercourse with Collins-Rector, Shackley, and Pierce while under the influence of drugs that he claims were fed to him without his knowledge."
fluffypony: "The slim, dark-haired 14-year-old, who attended a small private high school in the Valley, befriended Chad's brother Scott, who led him to DEN. Mike had an interest in acting, so when Collins-Rector outlined the possibilities for stardom offered by the site, the boy began spending time at the mansion, where there was one key rule. He recalls: "If you were going to sleep over, you had to get into either the pool or the hot tub—and
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 05:05:12; asciilifeform: (it being, they get 'annointed' by handlers specifically for being thus malleable)
fluffypony: I can't even remember the name
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fluffypony: he didn't notice them all lining up outside that guy's bedroom
fluffypony: danielpbarron: but he was just "around" in the mansion whilst that other guy was diddling 12 year old asian boys
mircea_popescu: seriously, you're going to go tell people you're "the darth vader of beer" ?!
mircea_popescu: what is wrong with these people, seriously.
fluffypony: "These glorified pep rallies represent just one aspect of a global campaign by Pierce—who's operated on the fringes of American business for the past 15 years—to reinvent himself as a trustworthy power broker in a volatile virtual realm and cement his claim to a title currently shared by many: the godfather of bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so are the twinkletwins of bitcoin taking this one sitting down ?
ascii_field: (vs the yet-'unpierced' kind)
ascii_field: inevitably brings to mind the ru prison parlance 'pierced pederast'
thestringpuller: the kid from first kid?
trinque: nor did it state whether words do or do not have meanings
trinque: "The appeals court did not resolve the question of whether the surveillance was unconstitutional."
SecretFinCENspy: you think they care ?
thestringpuller: everyone wants the exchange rate to go up so everyone can get rich. it's da most important metric here.
jurov: gmaxwell:"Unfortunately, every indicator I can think of except fee totals has been going in the wrong direction almost monotonically along with the blockchain size increase since 2012"
fluffypony: "I would very much like to find some concrete course of action that we can come to consensus on. Some compromise so we can tell entrepreneurs "THIS is how much transaction volume the main Bitcoin blockchain will be able to support over the next eleven years.""
fluffypony: drop the mic
fluffypony: happen at some point in the next eleven years", anything else is dishonest."
fluffypony: "You've been wandering around telling people that the blocksize will increase soon for months, when there is very clearly no consensus that it should in the short-term future. The only answer to this that anyone with a clue should give is "it will very, very likely be able to support at least 1MB blocks roughly every 10 minutes on average for the next eleven years, and it seems likely that a block size increase of some form will
fluffypony: the bitcoin-dev mailing list is on fire today
mircea_popescu: trinque hmm, did deedbot- see the deed ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron iirc the solution is to use softer rubber dongs
mircea_popescu: ascii_field don't miss the most important point here. government has identified a new thing it could need money for.
trinque: "fuck the feds" is great TX politics
ascii_field: (there was 'watching' immediately prior)
mircea_popescu: "The governor's proposition that these soldiers and sailors constitute a potential threat and need watching as they go about their duties certainly stakes out some new political ground for the leader of the Texas GOP to stand on."
funkenstein_: ascii_field, just in time for mother's day!
funkenstein_: so strange that the governor would want to monitor large groups of heavily armed out of staters
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck am i reading
mircea_popescu: " We have so many military bases in the Lone Star State we could practically attack Russia." orly.
ascii_field hardly ever logs out and would not necessarily see it then
mircea_popescu: -NickServ- m_p!~matter_pa@49.207.189.76 failed to login to mircea_popescu. There have been 3 failed login attempts since your last successful login. << am i the only one so targetted ?
mircea_popescu: that's already water under the bitbridge.
ben_vulpes: the language having nothing to do with quoting prices for btc transactions.
ben_vulpes: if you know the language.
ben_vulpes: just quote to the satoshi, man.
mircea_popescu: rounded to the closest full line
mircea_popescu: they were always numbers!!1
BingoBoingo: Browsing various .edu domains for keys to submit I noticed there's a span from roughly 1999 to 2005-8 where DSA/Elgamal keys were way too popular
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, this is very much like its own sort of blockchain syncing. the 4mn addies were created over 40 years or so. we can catch up in a year, by which time... more will have been created.
mircea_popescu: the pairs part is eminently parallelizable.
mircea_popescu: do it in sets, maybe ? because positives are so rarely expected, take n numbers, gcd them all in pairs, then gcd the n/2 pairs together, etc.
mod6: ascii_field: ahhah, it does say it in the Email Subject. derp.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in principle, one can do clever things to weasel out of the cache problem - such as setting max product size and gcd'ing said parcels together
ascii_field did not think there was any ambiguity in his reports
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2015 15:19:45; mod6: asciilifeform: just to be clear, all of your vagrind runs against bitcoind are: v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_ThermoNuke ? Or just plain v0.5.3.1 ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2015#1124024 << read the mailing list. clearly printed on the box, 'thermonuke.'
mircea_popescu: what, the huobi guy ?
mircea_popescu: (the 10k was not)
ascii_field: theoretically
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it does not, but im figuring : since the queue is not ever empty, it's a good measure for actual processing
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2015#1124071 << the 258 figure does not include the non-rsa submissions
mircea_popescu: it's also wrong because you don't actually need the millions
mircea_popescu: the "millions" mike hearn derps about aren't only broken because shit, we're worth billions, even if he personally isn't worth two spits.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the exercise is interesting because it puts a ceiling on costs. doing a mathematically intricate, non-parallelizable task over ~the entire space of gpg keys~, all 4mn of them, is < 10k usd.
ben_vulpes: at least it's not just sitting there depreciating anymore.
mircea_popescu: because guess what : smegma is just as natural a byproduct of the sexual organs, of the other gender. and washing it off is certainly as novel bla bla as shaving the cunt.
mircea_popescu: reading old trilema articles ( http://trilema.com/2011/sa-belim-pula/ ) i'm suddenly illuminated : all the empowered feminist derps that bitch about how having to shave their cunt is wrong, novel and bla bla : how much smegma do they eat in the average week ?
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/05/07/california_masonic_police_department_weird.html
lobbes: hmm, I think I get it; 'I experience something, therefore it exists.' Assumtion not really necessary for the experience
mircea_popescu: lobbes does the proposition that having two children each off two different women equal having four children total have to accept some sort of assumption about "the twu nature of numbers" ?
mircea_popescu: god knows they do enough of that nonsense even without any help
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo for the record, "and found 60 with one or more duplicate moduli." is maybe misleading. it merely found the same key in multiple places, it hasn't actually cracked anything. << fxd
lobbes: this is true. But even with the other senses, you still have to accept the assumption of 'an outside reality'
mircea_popescu: plenty of people making a living at this. in fact, three card monte exists specifically to exploit the thermodynamc gradient created by the "own eyes" meme/mental parasithosis.
mircea_popescu: your eyes are a particularly weak check, especially if it is known you will be relying on them exclusively.
lobbes: unless witnessed with own eyes, can't really verify one way or another. Of course, you can say that about any event
mircea_popescu: (and yes, in the 2000s, the finance ppls are the army. the grunts on the ground - roughly speaking cleanning crews)
mircea_popescu: cantor fitzgerald's been in the news recently due to their vice chair's fraudulent shenanigans and separately due to their general incompetence and gross mishandling of OPM.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the problem with this is that they could have picked much less expensive, more impactful targets.
lobbes: danielpbarron: you think it may have been an 'inside job' by usg? I have heard that pov from others, too
from_vice: Well it's been swell, good luck with the taking over the world with superior quips. Now where did I park my car??
mod6: asciilifeform: just to be clear, all of your vagrind runs against bitcoind are: v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_ThermoNuke ? Or just plain v0.5.3.1 ?
mircea_popescu: heh, the benefit of modernity. no event is ever going to co-exist with a consensus interpretation thereof.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron do you call emergency line and tell them truths ?
mircea_popescu: !s thermite
from_vice: Oh I see, you are from the evil overlord master race, all makes sense now
nubbins`: altho generally they start with "hashish?" and follow up with "massage?"
mircea_popescu: if there's ever to be any progress...
mircea_popescu: a right, we haven't fully colonized nubbins` yet. much like canada, he hangs on to antiquated forms that perpetuate the routing and interfacing differences in our society.
nubbins`: i'm from the internet
mircea_popescu: the most serene republic of ~
mircea_popescu: and if i take to the streets of marakesh, there's about one in three chance random street urchin will suck my cock hoping for a hundred. what of it.
nubbins`: there's about a one in three chance that they'd publish an article you wrote for them about bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: fetlife is hiring, vice is hiring, erryone's hiring. we might even make the gdp go up
mircea_popescu: nubbins` can you imagine the increase in demand for competent web engineers we've caused this year alone ?
nubbins`: guess they realized
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nubbins`: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/unless-everyone-using-bitcoin-makes-this-radical-change-the-currency-will-die
from_vice: I linked into here via the vice article link provided in the comments by someone--I feel a bit violated
nubbins`: this is way more boring than when the reuters reporter showed up
mircea_popescu: ahaha this entire convo is the titsd.
nubbins`: from_vice: there ya go.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck washes things by hand in cold water. what is this, slavegirl concentration camp ?!
nubbins`: for those who still don't know wtf is going on, brush up on yr number theory
nubbins`: there's no fooling you 8)
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mod6: <+asciilifeform> [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke DHAT Output. << nice work! thanks :]
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nubbins`: which is both infinitely large in size, and infinitely smaller than, say, the set of real numbers
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