trinque: I've wondered, considering it from the other end, whether the govt's trying to provoke fergusons and baltimores.
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, was there a paqi-mayw bitbet ? don't recall seeing one, which is too bad as i would've loved to have taken some change off of "the people's fighter"
mircea_popescu: no wheelchairs in the ring. what is this.
mircea_popescu: well, who you gonna bet on, in the quadriplegic box match ? the blind or the stupid ?
williamdunne: if that's the case, as it well may be the case, they're not nearly all that disorganised. arguably better organised than the government. <<< glad to see standards are staying high
Adlai: what's revolution if not career criminals fighting eachother?
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 16:40:25; lobbes: Adlai, career criminals, sure. But I'm skeptical that a bunch of career criminals would suddenly align against a common foe, rather than continue the 'business as usual' of fighting each other
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129009 << you have no idea how vory even came to be, then ?
mircea_popescu: if that's the case, as it well may be the case, they're not nearly all that disorganised. arguably better organised than the government.
mircea_popescu: obviously baltimore riots were a plan hatched and executed by the baltimore drug lords, but it *may* be also part of a larger frontline, a probing operation as it's called.
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 15:09:44; lobbes: idk re: prison insurgencies. He compares the 'black youth' imprisoned today with former workers for Sadam. Former being terribly unorganized to start with vs. the latter (arguably) being the obverse
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1128992 << it's a mixed bag, really. the "new black panther" party was a good chunk of the success of the obama campaign. their disinterest was a big chunk of the ridoinculous fizzle of ows.
mircea_popescu: but of much more direct interest, "It is hard to see why this same pattern wouldn't hold once the US places much of itself under military occupation."
mircea_popescu: "what would the devil have to pay you..."
mircea_popescu: "There is a pattern here: it seems that whenever Americans arm, train and equip an army, that army stands a really big chance of simply melting away, with the weapons falling into the hands of those who want to use them against American interests."
Adlai: mircea_popescu: ablative agent, although i forgot the preposition
gabriel_laddel: well yeah, gotta start with the fun stuff
trinque: over the surgical implements
gabriel_laddel: skip to 5:33 for the first stitch
BingoBoingo: I find it kind of funny the first mainstream surgical robots are for urology.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I was simply noting that I'm really the wrong person to speak with about living healthy if one wishes to carry on a conversation.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Aaron's post had nothing to say about smoking, drinking and I don't think that being opposed to these is "new age-y"
mod6: anyway, hanbot: I'll be updating the document as I go through this whole process. I'll let you know when I get something that's bare-rails specfic. Thanks for the help! :]
gabriel_laddel: mod6: it is rather poorly designed IMHO.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: nah, I just wanted to use something more sane than their default package manager
gabriel_laddel: trinque: yeah, I'm fixing the install guide and writing an introductory bare-bones lesson now
mod6: it's in there.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: portage is the project that houses "emerge"
gabriel_laddel: mod6: I wrote an ebuild parser, ran sloccount, read through the documentation, opened a few files + ebuilds at random and read through them.
mod6: <+gabriel_laddel> mod6: have you looked into the portage sources? << what do you mean by "looked into"?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel but if anyone opposed to smoking, drinking and eating whatever falls into your hads is "new age bs", then hippo should be too.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: have you looked into the portage sources?
mod6: So basically that's where we are. I've gotten to the point where I can create an AWS AMI -> deploy hand-rolled Gentoo instance. I'll certainly continue to build out the blessed toolchain over the next week and beyond. Further, then I'll take what I've learned from all of this and apply it to building a hand-rolled Gentoo on a bare-rails environment.
mod6: Upon news of my endevour, Mr. P. asked me to document what I'd done carefully so we all can be on the same page -- which is also good because I don't know what I'm doing with Gentoo anyway. Having people look over what I'm doing provides some bit of steering in-case I get off course.
mod6: So the idea was that I would learn a few things about Gentoo, get a hand-rolled stage3 + a fully blessed tool chain and be able to attch my "btc-dev" storage volume and just pick up where we left-off -- at lesat as far as what artifacts I'd already collected.
mod6: One of my goals was to get this going as soon as possible in AWS so we could continue with builds/testing/development and ditch Debian6. And additonally, I have a 350Gb storage volume there that I wanted to not just discard as it has at least half-a-dozen fully sync'd blockchains on there.
mod6: To begin with, I was completely unfamiliar with gentoo in any sense -- aside from once trying to set it up from the Handbook, which I found that I didn't have time to work my way through and get it set up properly. So my goal was to get familiar with Gentoo and to start to build a system that can be agreed upon that suits our needs for building bitcoind.
mod6: <+hanbot> ... hey mod6, could you make a version of this that isn't aws-specific? or wouldja be willing to me make one? << yea, absolutely. I'll get there at some point soon hopefully.
gabriel_laddel: Yeah. I read his blog post on intelligence and genetics, confused the two of you and thought he was making some sort of ad-hoc /pol/-style 'argument'.
gabriel_laddel: williamdunne: that the jews were overrepresented in banking
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/13be0b7c54cf8797f03ac1c7b4949f35/tumblr_no0iysbOD51s53p61o1_1280.jpg << what is the beta for?
gabriel_laddel: mmunity then ignored his discovery). Contrast with "New Age medicine", which afaik, an ill-defined set of practices quite distanced from the leading edge of technology. If they were any good at what they were doing they'd have their own funtoo fork, pdf extractor, WoT and we'd be using it.
gabriel_laddel: doned medicine and that medicine would have been better off to abandon philosophy. He also notes that "On Wounds in the Head" contains remarkably practical techniques that would have been extremely advanced had they discovered antiseptics. I don't know enough about the development of medicine to (dis)agree with this assessment, but will note that Semmelweis didn't discover antiseptics until ~1850 (and the medical co
gabriel_laddel: his(their) ability, to develop the practice of medicine in accordance with reality. Being subject to the prejudice and technical limitations of the times is inescapable (the notion of "humors" may have made more sense without knowing of chemical reactions). The notes on the constitution of a patient's stool, fasting and diet are probably still valid. In the 'General Introduction' Jones notes that philosophy had aban
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-05-2015#1126254 << To give my definitive word on the matter I'd have to review his works in their entirety and learn ionic Greek + Greek philosophy. For now, I read the first ~150 pages of Hippocrates, Acient Medicine, Vol. 1 - English translation by W.H.S. Jones. It did not strike me as "new age-y". The author(s) of this particular work was clearly attempting, to the best of
ben_vulpes: <funkenstein_> sometimes keeping up with trilema feels like trying to sync the blockchain with a dialup modem << lol how do you handle the log?
mircea_popescu: starvation is the adequate solution to this problem.
pete_dushenski: hey, if they want to wait and the carrying costs aren't crushing them, let 'em dream.
pete_dushenski: whether in buenos aires or edmonotn
mircea_popescu: offer him 5% in the btctc shambles ?
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cazalla: guy not far from me selling a bitcoin atm.. wants 5k for it.. tell him he's dreamin' http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/highett/other-electronics-computers/lamassu-bitcoin-atm-machine-new/1078507188
lobbes: I only just started reading Orlov's blog not too long ago. On alf's recommendation, I skipped to some of his earlier stuff (from roughly 2011?). I do get the feeling that he can either be 'hit or miss' at times.
mircea_popescu: so... yeah, which way the state goes is part and parcel of it.
mircea_popescu: not that it's not genuine sentiment, i'm sure to some degree it is. the topless sluts were ALSO genuine sentiment, for sure just as genuine, definitely as widely held. the result ? 400 people, beat up by police, not 4mn pushed by the govt press agents.
mircea_popescu: bwahgaha. these EXACT PEOPLE prostituted their dead, and their living, wives, children, the lot. by the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. not even fifty years ago.
mircea_popescu: "If you think about it just a tiny bit, nothing on this scale could be contrived artificially, and the thought that millions of people would prostitute their dead for propaganda purposes is, frankly, both cynical and insulting."
trinque: only difference should be where you plonk the resulting root fs
hanbot: jurov> just replace the aws image creation part with normal gentoo handbook << wasn't the point at least in part to crop that thing tho'?
mircea_popescu: at this rate they could probably use it as an anti-islam equivalent.
mircea_popescu: "Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, [blablabla] made the sign of the cross, in the Russian Orthodox manner. This simple gesture transformed the parade from a display of military pomp to a sacred ritual."
mircea_popescu: apparently the SEW way to do urls is .xml
mircea_popescu: there are also 68 keys with duplicate moduli, but i imagine that wouldn't impact very much the overall numbers ?
mircea_popescu: so ascii_field from the above, am i correct in deducing that there have been at most 47728 - 31262-4584 = 11882 (out of 47728, or ~1/4) keys without any RSA subkeys in them ?
mircea_popescu: bwhaha. who penned this i wish to know ? the man himself is incapable of such quality.
mircea_popescu: "Western media focused on the fact that western leaders declined to attend the celebration, either in a fit of pique or because so ordered by the Obama administration, but this only highlights their combined irrelevance, be it in defeating Hitler, or in commemorating his defeat 70 years later."
mircea_popescu: cultundies, for those girls that still wear the things.
mircea_popescu: heathen.
jurov: just replace the aws image creation part with normal gentoo handbook
hanbot: mircea_popescu> <mod6> once I have these guys << hanbot how about you help with that effort ? << hey mod6, could you make a version of this that isn't aws-specific? or wouldja be willing to help me make one?
cazalla: who's the statue of in that shitty photoshop anyway
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/cec108a1b9ef61cc0ce17e80b2fed4ec/tumblr_meuxlnPw761qjm83bo1_1280.jpg
assbot: You rated user theymos on 15-Nov-2014, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: defrauded the tardstalk community by throwing ~half a million dollars worth of BTC at some obscure service provider for kickbacks. a lenghty history of fraudulent behaviour, http://trilema.com/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/.
mircea_popescu: !rated theymos
mircea_popescu: and moreover, the government can contempt the court all it wants, that's what it's there for after all.
mircea_popescu: check it out, the government is required to file a certificate. and if they don't... fuckall. and if it's fraudulent ? all the better.
mircea_popescu: where is the one year in the can for contempt + civil liability for the prosecuting team + their eighteen indictment trial for all sorts of fraud, abuse of legal process etc.
mircea_popescu: but is there a disbarment of the government counsel as a result of attempted fraud in open court ?
mircea_popescu: ertificate after the appeal has been docketed and briefed and within days of its argument in this Court."
mircea_popescu: and so therefore, " If the requirement of the timely filing of a certificate is to have substantial meaning, the government's appeal here should be dismissed. Indeed, the purpose of the certificate requirement is to ensure the government has verified the propriety of its appeal, and so certified to the district court, at the time it files its notice of appeal. That purpose is defeated by the perfunctory filing of the c
mircea_popescu: "The certificate was filed seven months after the entry of the district court's order and six months after the filing of the government's notice of appeal. It was filed only after the defendants raised the issue of its absence in their briefs to this Court."
mircea_popescu: o, so the government filed late ? it's ok, we'll invent some legally meaningless words it can be bad in, but otherwise it's fine.
mircea_popescu: back to the lulzlaw department for a moment, " Nonetheless, the government concedes that it failed to file a timely certificate with the district court "that the appeal was not taken for purpose of delay and that the evidence is a substantial proof of a fact material in the proceeding," although ยง 3731 required it to do so. The government has now filed such a certificate, and correctly notes that the late filing, alth
ascii_field: the weird daughterboard was a midi synth
ascii_field: on account of the vastly different bus
ascii_field: ^ mega-l0l! they're still on www!
ascii_field: when had that box, had a 'chipchat' sound card, afaik the only one made for mca
mircea_popescu: speaking of someliers, they have a forum, you know ? http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=33438
lobbes: I've got a love for 'fast blues'; srv and the like
mod6: anyway, mircea_popescu I'll talk to ben_vulpes about helping me write something up for these charts.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I tend to think this was the last time rock happened -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQjFB3MV4s
mod6: so the size of that entire directory is not exactly an accurate picture
mod6: the debug.log itself is 977Mb
ascii_field: recall, we aren't using the leveldb thing
mircea_popescu: entertainment's in this weird situation where the olympic record holders of today couldn't meet the quals for regional competitions in the 70s.
mod6: if you're looking at timing metrics, I can just use 'time' or just rely on the time started in PS and subtract that from the end time.
mod6: i don't have the kinda hardware for this sort of ting.
mod6: so, i probably just run them consecutively unless it /really/ matters.
mod6: the one alone costs me $89/mo. and now i've got 2 others for gentoo, and another one is gonna get pricy for this month.
ascii_field: (they still won't deterministically sync from same places, but still)
mircea_popescu: as it is, this reporting, it is a 90% of an excellent job. make the extra 10%. make it whole, it'll be great.
ascii_field: mod6: best to let these run in parallel
mircea_popescu: mod6 not a bad idea. but make sure you package these with the required context and publish them.
mod6: then maybe we have something to compare too... and maybe even a v0.5.3 original baseline as well.
mircea_popescu: dabbled in same, back in the day.
mod6: anyway, I was considering running another full-sync without the OrphanageThermonuke patch -- just a v0.5.3.1-RELEASE baseline.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha, 'the right screw' (tm)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu did read the patch iirc
mircea_popescu: anyway, i must say the profiling seen here crowns an expectation that has been slowly building from what was shown prior, ie that the snipped bitcoin 5 we're using is actually a major improvement over the old bitcoin 5, and thus very, very far ahead of bitcoin 10/11/etc.
mod6: no idea. i can post the raw data if someone wants to pour through it.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah kinda what i was trying to evaluate, if the "0, usually" is valid.
mod6: maybe that just means there was only a few page faults.
mod6: yeah, some of these charts don't make sense to me.
mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/Page_Faults.png << negative page faults o.O
mod6: ended yesterday, the 11th.
mircea_popescu: mod6 doesn't matter which chart per se, just trying to put this in context. what was bitcoind doing in the interval ?
mod6: the box was doing nothing else while this thing was running.
ascii_field: is the actual process steady-state
mircea_popescu: mod6 listen, what happened in the 6-12 may interval ? full blockchain sync ? something else ?
mod6: i'll maybe try another tool next time.
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 00:38:06; asciilifeform: mod6: the obvious steps are 1) determine if still leaks (tentatively, i will say that it does not) and 2) determine wtf is eating the ram
mod6: Hmm, the swap and & disk are blank for some reason. im sure I just didn't do something correct with those.
mircea_popescu: mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/Disk.png << this space intentionally left blank ?
mod6: nmon charts from the entire v0.5.3.1+OrphanageThermonuke sync/test: http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/
mircea_popescu: what business of it is theirs ? "oh, you're so ignorant, you don't even know astronomy". well... he's a farm hand, let him farm.
scoopbot_revived: The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume XI http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-xi/
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, see, the opinions of people who do not own 30 btc to their name as to the comings and goings of places where this is a minimum requisite bar do not constitute proper ignorance. it's like saying country bumpkins in montana have no idea how broadstreet works. they obviously don't, but this because the goat does not know calendars.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: remember, tungsten melts in your mouth.
thestringpuller: reddit users i suppose so it is irrelevant. the level of ignorance is just astonishing tho
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but who's asking him ?
mircea_popescu: apparently, corrupt govt official with private intersts made pro-forma arrangements to rid himself of these so as to use govt tools to further them
ascii_field: (attempting to be something other than slavishly transparent to usg tendrils)
ascii_field: also note what the crime in this case was.
mircea_popescu: "but your honor, it would be a price too high for society to pay were the government granted the right to act because of any defect sufficient to invalidate submitted tax reports"
ascii_field: they get as many shots as it takes.
mircea_popescu: so government can fuck up the conviction, gets a second shot because hey, govt's speshul. you go fuck up your tax returns, see how that goes over.
ascii_field: and this is the national disease of u.s. folks.
mircea_popescu: "if we don't steal your rights right at the top, it is unlikely our agents at lower levels would not steal them anyway"
mircea_popescu: imagine the perversity of this.
mircea_popescu: new that reversal of a conviction would put the accused irrevocably beyond the reach of further prosecution."
mircea_popescu: al. It would be a high price indeed for society to pay were every accused granted immunity from punishment because of any defect sufficient to constitute reversible error in the proceedings leading to conviction. From the standpoint of a defendant, it is at least doubtful that appellate courts would be as zealous as they now are in protecting against the effects of improprieties at the trial or pretrial stage if they k
mircea_popescu: "While different theories have been advanced to support the permissibility of retrial, of greater importance than the conceptual abstractions employed to explain the Ball principle are the implications of that principle for the sound administration of justice. Corresponding to the right of an accused to be given a fair trial is the societal interest in punishing one whose guilt is clear after he has obtained such a tri
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: "the constitution is there to protect the government from having to do things... << this doctrine is almost as old as the parchment itself
mircea_popescu: basically this translates to "the constitution is there to protect the government from having to do things it doesn't want to do, not to protect the citizens from things the government wants to do but shouldn't"
mircea_popescu: "In a line of precedent almost a century old, the Supreme Court has repeatedly stressed that the Double Jeopardy Clause does not preclude the government from retrying a defendant whose conviction is set aside because of an error in the proceedings leading to conviction."
mircea_popescu: http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/952/866/367365/ << this thing that got linked on the recent bisp announcement is pretty interesting on its own.
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:42:12; mircea_popescu: which incidentally - if anyone wants to sysadmin an aws-style offering on top of bisp metal, please get in touch. i'm open to the idea, we'd have to discuss how it would work.
trinque: qntra article made mention that it'll want to cater to larger customers, so perhaps that fills the gap for those needing smaller instances
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/13be0b7c54cf8797f03ac1c7b4949f35/tumblr_no0iysbOD51s53p61o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's not even that, lol. i'm not making a judgement based on how the twerp presents itself. this is more like, "you're not famous, go away", but for a much better definition of famous. "people i care about heard of you."
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's almost like they've forgotten what "right of admission reserved" actually means because of this ongoing "the customer is ALWAYS right" nonsense
assbot: Introducing the Bitcoin ISP on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbTf3B )
mircea_popescu: and in the latest lulz for today, http://trilema.com/2015/introducing-the-bitcoin-isp/#comment-114124
ascii_field: for those who did not watch the 'elbrus' youtube (did anyone ?) - if the screenshots are genuine , we now know that one core of 'elbrus' has approximately same benchmark performance as 'pogo.'
funkenstein_: sometimes keeping up with trilema feels like trying to sync the blockchain with a dialup modem
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 03:19:21; mircea_popescu: i'd rather see uclibc in the "official" b-a linux
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 03:19:21; mircea_popescu: i'd rather see uclibc in the "official" b-a linux
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1128914 << mega-l0l, truly. did they invent a new 'blockchain' where they get to backpedal on 'undesirable' ('wrong button', 'insider', misc. bullshit) trades ?
lobbes: Adlai, career criminals, sure. But I'm skeptical that a bunch of career criminals would suddenly align against a common foe, rather than continue the 'business as usual' of fighting each other
Adlai: although the funny thing is, my reserve duty just keeps getting cancelled due to lack of necessity for my amazing talents
jurov: are there any? and if, how are they distributed in the us? certainly not on blurays or by the net
jurov: they mention gamers. and that would only be a problem for games with terabytes of installed data that need constant shuffling to/from the ssd
assbot: SSDs have a problem: They're getting too fast, too soon | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1cNQY4l )
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2921412/ssds-have-a-problem-theyre-getting-too-fast-too-soon.html < the x86 world's inability to 'fabric' well is becoming embarrassing now that SSD's are increasing in performance
lobbes: idk re: prison insurgencies. He compares the 'black youth' imprisoned today with former workers for Sadam. Former being terribly unorganized to start with vs. the latter (arguably) being the obverse
jurov: otherwise, pot-caling-kettle-blackism exercise
jurov: he made the sign of the cross, in the Russian Orthodox manner. This simple gesture transformed the parade from a display of military pomp to a sacred ritual.
lobbes: Why India though? Aren't they essentially an arm of usg?
lobbes: 'The Russian plan, along with China, India, and much of the rest of the world, is to prepare for war with the US, but to do everything possible to avoid it. Time is on their side, because with each passing day they become stronger while America grows weaker.'
decimation: asciilifeform: things are already heading that way. there's a 'Schelling point' that enlarges every year around the "USG sucks" idea
asciilifeform: 'And that's where things get interesting. Because, you see, if you shoot at, imprison, and otherwise abuse a defenseless civilian population long enough, what you get in response is an armed insurgency. The place insurgencies are easiest to organize is in prison...'
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 03:19:21; mircea_popescu: i'd rather see uclibc in the "official" b-a linux
trinque: "The conspiracy theorists of old have been proven right. The U.S. creates threats for us and then offers us more weapons systems. That does not bode well for us," said Sami Alfaraj, a Kuwaiti security adviser to the six-nation GCC.
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/12/us-usa-saudi-summit-idUSKBN0NW1EV20150512 << when Saudi Kings bomb Yemeni civilians, American diplomats "scramble" to assure them.
scoopbot_revived: Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It's for the children. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/
trinque: seems inevitable that it will, just a question of whose flying robots they are
mircea_popescu: "just pray, madam, that the russians don't do to you and your daughters anything like"
trinque: TheNewDeal: yeah, sounds like us, right?
TheNewDeal: "The indiscriminate bombing of populated areas, with or without prior warning, is as American as it gets," Van Der Klaauw said in a statement. Ftfy
mircea_popescu: i thought they're just pulling a great gatsby / jerry seifeld, and just storing them
trinque: and isn't the US a part of this "coalition" ?
TheNewDeal: And with all the same vocabulary. No need to relearn "blockchain technology" when we've heard it a few dozen times before!
mircea_popescu: cnn moving into the wordsalad humor racket. reddit turf.
mod6: *nod*, I'll work on trying that out and getting an update in there. :]
jurov: can be 200k, if the trend is expected to continue
mircea_popescu: <mod6> once I have these guys << hanbot how about you help with that effort ?
mircea_popescu: jurov alrighty. what's official price on them ?
mircea_popescu: not to my knowledge risky for anyone else, except, of course, as far as the presence of the former impels.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bdsm is very risky for the single, naive/retarded female. it is almost as risky for the single, ideologically captive male.
mod6: gotta get phase-2 sorted, then will create non-aws guide.
asciilifeform: with respect to mod6's blood, sweat, tears - gentoo on aws seems quite like the proverbial 'lipstick on the pig' imho
trinque: which... fuck you AWS, that IAM does have permission to diddle the bucket
trinque: barfs this currently -> A client error (InvalidManifest) occurred when calling the RegisterImage operation: HTTP 403 (Forbidden) response for URL
trinque: work's ongoing, I need the tool
mod6: I'll eventually publish a final form of this to the btc-dev mailing list once I have these guys execute it manually & verify that it works for them.
trinque: snagged particularly on a non-braindead way of producing an AMI from it (prior efforts involved using another running ec2 instance)
trinque: mod6: I crapped together a bash script that does much of what's here, not fit for general consumption yet
mod6: this is a ``living-guide'' for the time being as this is pretty much ``phase-1'' of this process; ``phase-2'' will entail getting a tool-chain in place that satisfies requirements.
mod6: alright, i've got a first-draft of the gentoo stage3 AMI guide put up for review. Feel free to test this out if anyone wants. I'm having some local guys try this out for me as well. Will report any updates back here.
trinque: yeah, there is probably something much more specific than "risk" to be said
asciilifeform: perhaps because it doesn't give the flavour of confronting nature, or fellow man
trinque: asciilifeform: this is my hypothesis on various "risky" lifestyles like bdsm, drug taking, rock climbing, whatever
asciilifeform: more like getting to the tonsil cancers faster
trinque: but seriously, I'll take the death of a spaceman
asciilifeform: that's entirely the wrong type of 'micromort'
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu observed, 'everybody gets a death, adequate to his needs, guaranteed.' and i'd rather have mine in a 'bleriot' or holding ak, than from cancer of the tonsils
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't either; when it comes up I tend to say "yes, and turns out you still die at the end"
trinque: danielpbarron: I think that group might self-select for people who have some measure of respect for their weapons
asciilifeform: i don't grasp the preoccupation with 'safety.'
asciilifeform: the 'safest' place, short of cemetary, is probably a psych ward
asciilifeform: there is also a component of keeping the airlines in business, plus keeping a lid on unsanctioned 'interstate commerce' etc
trinque: seeing them all strapped would be a great indicator I'm in one of those undesirable places
trinque: sames goes for considerations around the legality of guns
asciilifeform: (with, e.g., no more than the 1920s paperwork, or req'd maintenance, inspection crapolade, etc.)
asciilifeform: all of them.
asciilifeform: i would happily learn to fly 1920s machines with the proviso that 1920 rules would apply.
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 00:46:36; mircea_popescu: the LAST thing i want is all the idiots buzzing around IN PLANES.