mats: the problem i'm faced with now is where to flee
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe they pay to watch
cazalla: and i can't imagine the chinese men will have much mercy for the aussie men banging their chinese-australian women
cazalla: well if/when america topples over, down under is shit out of luck, chinese will come flooding out of the water and on to the land
mats: even when you enjoy the taste of cock
mats: i suppose the tentative plan is to recolonize oceania and us
cazalla: could be if the remaining 9,999 are all women :P
mircea_popescu: minus, of course, your not being there to notice.
mircea_popescu: consequently... really, no further point. if tomorrow you wake up and there's not ten billion people but ten thousand, there won't be a notable difference.
mircea_popescu: one million schmucks had to kill themselves raising kids in new jersey so there could be a miss new jersey on television
mircea_popescu: then, steam power replaced muscle power, and people started playing talent lottery.
mircea_popescu: originally, people pinned women down and stuck it in them because the kids cost nothing, either fed themselves off offal or died, and then could be used, for purposes.
cazalla: so we're at the point we're it's sorta like bezzle but for people?
mircea_popescu: only thing another hundred twerps does for you is more inane demands.
mircea_popescu: they don't, now.
cazalla: plenty of white people aren't procreating either, different reasons though (career women)
mircea_popescu: i had no idea having kids is the summum bonum
mircea_popescu: as empirically observed, there's not any cause or any way to build anything in a swamp.
mircea_popescu: social mobility is a nice way to say it. the other way to say it is "swimming in a shitswamp"
mats: there's a lot more implicit potential social mobility involved in being a white dude in us
mircea_popescu: plenty western fixations the chinese do not share.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the best thing that could happen is for a whole lot of lines to go extinct. like... most of them, really.
mircea_popescu: and re the "imagine being a drone"... why do you think it's so impossible to imagine ?
cazalla: airline industry is aus is pretty bad, so bad that QANTAS has a debt guarantee from the government
mircea_popescu: they'll just carry dept to stick coins in the stereoscopic machine with the girl taking her pants off
mircea_popescu: ayway, whoredom's gonna be great business. the chinese bezzle looks like it's going to be this, a lot of small yellow beta males swarmin' around. except they won't try to go to college and get a mortgage to please the old folks.
mats: how did they manage to do that after making 3x usu profits because cost of fuel going down?
mircea_popescu: recently the airlines managed to lose more money than was made in the history of flight.
mats: this predicament is why i have no sympathy for all the SJW whiners in USA
cazalla: alotta chinese women with aussie men these days
mats: chinese females are predictably holding out longer and raising their standards, but thats still a lot of extinct lines
mats: the one child policy has serious cultural ramifications
mats: i am pretty curious to see what happens to china over the next century
cazalla: well if it all goes to shit.. might finally find out what the yanks have been doing at pine gap all these years
mircea_popescu: whore be milking the gringo for all he's got.
mircea_popescu: Noynoy Aquino said that the Philippines is still considering to join AIIB. "We have not indicated that we are ready to join also. We are actually at the stage of studying the proposal to join this particular new entity."
mats: the philippines
mats: usg has the next best thing to a naval base in south china sea
mircea_popescu: next us president whoever is gonna be is going to discover a sudden fondness for russia and "move past previous difficulties", and the transition's complete : washington is now a sort of germany, in charge of a large rust bucket that doesn't much care for it.
mircea_popescu: no usable jet, not like carriers would be usable even if they had a jet, no money to back it all up with anyway even if they had a miracle cure for rocketry, and no brains to work the entire thing even if money were somehow to be found, as it's always found when there's brains involved.
mats: usg is notoriously stubborn so please share intel with the class
mircea_popescu: cazalla it's no alternative sort of deal. the "us in south china sea" story is coming to an end this decade.
mircea_popescu: "The only great material difference between Gawker's lines on the fappening and their publication of Bollea's tape is that while photos during the fappening were released in a decentralized manner, Gawker got to publish the Hulk Hogan sex tape first. "
BingoBoingo pretty sure best thing at stopping USG action is other USG inertia and USG molasses
asciilifeform: usg could answer the 'we know where you live' with 'so what, come and get it'
mircea_popescu: and you don't like the sean guy because reasons.
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck apologizes for women that look good in bikinis
mircea_popescu: why would they be able to distinguish ?
BingoBoingo: No they didn't
mircea_popescu: the others didn't have the gumption tro spend a coupla years as paris hilton's foot slaves
decimation: in the case in question though, I think it does do damage to usg where it hurts
BingoBoingo: Sure, the Kim subtype has an ass.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting. << so they are. also they bother the fauna, so less racoons
BingoBoingo: Sure, but his gay is more accept nao than Turing's was then. Even though he also had to bankroll fat acceptance, Kardashians, and lets hate athletic success to make it happen.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences. << the "unambiguous" in there is a no true scotsman. you know for a fact that leaks to date have had physical consequences of the worst kind for the twerps in question, and you know they know, and you can observe them act in consequence of that knowledge. they digested the fact they are informationally defeated.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you have to appreciate i don't do bezzle. that "couple mil" per year was about 20k actual deductibles and the rest fluff.
Vexual: a popular process these days no?
decimation: asciilifeform: who are these contributors who were afraid of contributing to a gnu (instead of werner) copyright?
asciilifeform: 'The FSFE's December newsletter mentioned this article. For whatever reasons it suddenly disappeared from the website. A diff against Google's cache shows...'
asciilifeform: 'Libgcrypt now accepts contributions after having received a simple mail (right, e-mail, no transatlantic snail mail) with a Developers Certificate of Origin as known from other projects. Voilà, patches with new features and performance improvements started to come in.'
assbot: The tragedy of GNU copyright assignments -- Werner's own blurbs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdiWNo )
Vexual: i dunno about maths geniuses, but i know bb knows i don't know to box, and wouldnt expose himself to the spectacle
asciilifeform: why would those watch a match, l0l. they fuck 24/7
Vexual: they can add n to 1
decimation: maybe they are maths geniuses
Vexual: BingoBoingo, The ring girls for our fight are prolly geing born now
cazalla: BingoBoingo, not every fight is ppv though yet pletny of ring girls to be found on the shitty circuits they show here down under
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Ring girls are protected by the mighty pay-per-view barrier
cazalla: surprised they're yet to attack boxing ring girls yet
Vexual: poor fucks might still have their money if it was bitcoin
Vexual: tv is covered with the scandal of isis agents paying us100's to poor fishermen to take refugees back to indo
asciilifeform: '...aaaand remember kidddz! Tarpy the Terror Tamarind says: Only YOU can prevent Financial Terrorism!'
cazalla: BingoBoingo, what are they rated to last for? i usually go whatever is cheapest on account all that shit is made in china and probably won't last near what they claim it will (but just long enough that i've binned receipt)
asciilifeform: BitLazy! the reich's #1-selling bitcotron! Mine While Not Giving a Flying Fuck (TM) (R)
scoopbot_revived: Once upon a time, there was a social contract. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/16/once-upon-a-time-there-was-a-social-contract/
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: ok sounds good... maybe I am looking at the "keys" wrong... since pgp is called the bitcoin-standard in encrypted communications, I just assumed it would have a public key/private key situation similar to BTC and that this would be how to encrypt and decrypt
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: first focus on learning to use the program gpg
ag3nt_zer0: tinque: ok, so this is what will be public? and then how do I decrypt?
BingoBoingo: Then pass around armored text blobs
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: Then don's bother with them. encyt your plaintext to asciiarmored plaintext.
ag3nt_zer0: BingoBoingo: yes but if I am encrypting plaintext then I am just attaching the file... tutanota, which I set it up with, provides their own encryption, so it isnt pop3 or imap... I think... they told me they cant do that since they are encrypted
ag3nt_zer0: I am coinfused as to how the "keys" work though... is my "fingerprint" my public key?
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah I am thinking since I was told yesterday that doing it right means local and plaintext then it doesnt really matter that it is linked to something that can operate with thunderbird and enigmail... I can simply keep it linked to my tutanota account... this makes sense to me but I don't know shit about this stuff...
DanielBTC: I new here in this channel I will read a little the wiki =)
DanielBTC: Hi people. Thanks for the voice danielpbarron
trinque checks the front page of gawker
BingoBoingo: It has tremendous importance in the same way the white squared Bishop does on a chess board.
funkenstein_: gotta keep up with the celebrity gossip i guess
BingoBoingo: It is seriously not a secret at all that Nick Denton sucks cocks. That would literally be the opposite of news.
BingoBoingo: If you are talking about Nick Denton's impending abandonment of Gawker Media... Very early qntra was far less kind to GAW Miners going so far as to label them "Jizz Moppers"
funkenstein_ is curious what alf sees out the window
asciilifeform: or, something more practical, when somebody tells me what the weak class of aes keys is.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165471 << let's put it this way: i look out the window, and see usg. when it is no longer there, then - yes, defeated
BingoBoingo: The short of the drama around the tape is Hogan thought he was doing a service by satisfying this guy's wife. The cuckold and his wife violated Hogan's trust by videotaping this charitable act.
BingoBoingo: mats: No, Hogan is doing the cucking as cazalla says
cazalla: if the price keeps going up so fast i'm gonna get fucked on that above $280 bet :\ pls wait 4 days kgo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 9's hundred million? But yeah couple mill per year. Even the first years Gawker cost a few million a year when it was one hired girl and the celebrity stalker because "viral" cost millions paid to Newsweek and other dead trees to get any attention at all.
mircea_popescu: the entire budget for the thing's entire existence is a coupla mil or so. this spercifically discounting all pretense.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways from what I understand Nick Denton's peak wealth was right around 8-9 figure sum of dollars and he sunk nearly all of it on Gawker Media liberalizing everything. This is likely a move to justify outside investors covering his loss and letting USG propaganda outlet pass to other hands.
cazalla: well if he has no intention to repay the loan, i'm sure he is happy to take anything he can get
mircea_popescu: cazalla i doubt they're selling anything whatsoever at those prices, but hey. the world was made out of pretense.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know like the assholes who keep music from playing on music stations in the morning so instead you set the car's radio to less shitty talk radio all day
cazalla: mircea_popescu, which isn't much these days, it would appear he pawned his domain https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/14048
mircea_popescu: what is this, the late 1890s ?
mircea_popescu: "I should make it clear: we would have settled too, in the interest of fighting another day, if Hogans demands were reasonable and the story flawed in any way. But now that the trial is on, we intend to fight it as far as we need to and we can." = we have as much money as josh garza
BingoBoingo: Also, the "Love Sponge" is a radio personality and not a fellow wrassler
mircea_popescu: also, heather clem looks made to be fucked on cam and naught else.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ? << Yes
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, that's him and he stretched as far as down under back then
felipelalli: mats: but gribble also takes ! in other channels, but in this channel gribble ignores it.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, turned an a to an an but other than that, gg
assbot: The Creator of Linux on the Future Without Him - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm2Iu0 )
BingoBoingo: OpenBSD advantage over "Linux" plan for continuity of leadership http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-16/the-creator-of-linux-on-the-future-without-him
mats: felipelalli: same gribble, assbot takes ! so the trigger is different to prevent collisions
BingoBoingo: Any obvious errors in the Hulkster piece?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 7 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: why gribble don't catch the ! commands in this channel as well? I use !gettrust to gribble in other channels.
BingoBoingo: Transformers kind sucked except for the visual spectacle of robot combat in the first movie and never even had that in the later films
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: what about "Transformers"? The worst film I watched ever.
BingoBoingo: I thoroughly enjoyed "The Highlander" as an example
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Probably the best film out of Hollywood since "Million Dollar Baby"
BingoBoingo: The dynamics of the human drama tho, very realistic even if the characters themselves are rather stupid
BingoBoingo: It takes just a few minutes of time to get over the gut reaction that the dinosaurs should look better, but the practical effects in the first movie were so good and inflation adjusted this one had a much smaller budget.
BingoBoingo: So, Jurassic World actually surprisingly good film. Improvement over the original in that it portrays people at their actual level of stupidity.
BingoBoingo: The reply looks like: "I know , i need them tonight ,it is stupid to ask ,but if u can loan me i will be happy + u get % from me . U get them back for 24h with 5% profit"
Azelphur: yep, I want the headers
jurov: i quoted it here whole, there was only one sentence
Azelphur: azelphur@azelphur.com be the real address :)
ascii_field: http://phasezero.gawker.com/this-shadow-government-agency-is-scarier-than-the-nsa-1707179377 << more lulz
ascii_field: https://transparencytoolkit.org/icwatch << it will be interesting to see, when the chinese list is spilled, if the two agree.
jurov: maybe there's some bad js too, but noscript blocked it
jurov: no, that tx plainly does not exist. look very closely to the url
cazalla: mircea_popescu, $14.5 USD / 1K impressions for top 728x90 and 300x250 $9 / 1K impressions on the lower end
ascii_field: and the agent of a particular compromise is the sysadmin who installed winblows, and only distantly and secondarily anybody else.
ascii_field: in as far as i can tell, all of the 'compromises' of the past decade are cultivated reichstag fires, arranged to fatten the kompyooter insekoority 'industry'
ascii_field: other thing is, only 'positive' items are even theoretically possible to authenticate. that is, if you find a leak purporting to be from the directorate-of-cracking-rsa, stating that 'sixteen quintillion bezzlars and still no result,' this could be disinfo. whereas 'here's how to factor $maxint on a pocket calculator' is testable.
trinque: maybe nothing, though if it had I might say otherwise publically
trinque: ascii_field: I think you're right that the most critical systems are held to a *much* higher standard than this
mats: all this stuff referring to the OPM hack as "cyber katrina" is also great
ascii_field: 'After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately after the machine is on-line it silently starts downloading "Chrome Hotword Shared Module" extension, which contains a binary without source code. There seems no opt-out config.'
trinque: leaving apple free to modify the thing at will from that point forward?
trinque: https://medium.com/@InertialLemon/apple-s-bitcode-telegraphs-future-cpu-plans-a7b90d326228 << I read this as indicating that in the future, Apple apps will be submitted as signed "bitcode", not a signed executable binary
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Cheapest cigarettes in town
thestringpuller: the real question BingoBoingo is why were you at the liquor store at 8:15ish in the morning?
BingoBoingo: Diameter is the one you can eyeball in profile view. Diameter 0.8x height.
BingoBoingo: Was driving suspiciously nice car and carrying brown bag out at 8:15ish in the morning
ben_vulpes: i've seen a bit more of the same lately.
BingoBoingo actually saw and AMBULATORY! galaxy today at the liquor store. Circumfrence roughly 0.8x height
BingoBoingo: "If a pet hedgehog appears to be gaining too much weight, it is important that the hedgehogs caretaker cut back on high fat foods and increase exercise. Hedgehogs vary in size so there is no "goal weight" for a hedgehog, but if they can no longer roll completely into a ball it is a pretty clear sign of obesity" << hedgehogs can become hedge hamplanets too.
BingoBoingo: All day today there has been a rather spectacular box turtle nomming on the slugs in the front flowerbeds, hope the little dude settles down there for a bit
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: or logic analyzer (unlike the affair i described last week, this doesn't need a fast one)
mircea_popescu: in other news, i stumbled upon a selection of trade engines : http://i.imgur.com/oBOraiD.jpg
mircea_popescu: cazalla how much do they charge ?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: you ever get the rng working ?
ben_vulpes: and the people have such cool hair!
cazalla: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2586559 "On average, Bitcoinist has 350,000+ unique visitors a month with 550,000 page views, and this is increasing every month." it's a press release mind you.. it's growing so much they're discounting their ad spots!
trinque: tends to be my opinion that people have largely forgotten the art of database views
trinque: mike_c: anything that might be duplicated between two things accessing the db could be a view in the db instead
kakobrekla: iirc they had a single process with a half a second sleep each time for engine
jurov: ^ last hit there
mike_c: gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..
mike_c: change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..
jurov: how would the db hard to manage?
mike_c: or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.
mike_c: but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage
mike_c: I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces
mike_c: i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.
mike_c: does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 20:30:24; mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165236 << wait till they start uploading 'magic' keys for us to sks
BingoBoingo: Well, the -otc dom
mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
punkman: do these come at your gpg email address?
Azelphur: there has been some guy on a mission impersonating me on OTC recently, must be the same fellow.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165022 <<< two of those adverts sport "made in australia" (bonds and jockey).. there was a bonds factory not far from where i grew up and my mother would take us in there now and again to buy factory seconds as it was cheaper.. in they end they closed up shop and moved to china
BingoBoingo: cazalla: What's the shame. She made money young and nao does what she wants?
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. all the people that insisted and eventually got me to check it out, on both episodes, run open source stuff
jurov: mircea_popescu: you got the preport from people who used it on linux?
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:45:25; mod6: staggers the imagination
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164796 << the effects of advanced senility can not be distinguished from the results of working for a government like
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:33:23; Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164790 << i really don't get it, isn't the point of these things to set an adolescent hookup ?
mircea_popescu: nah, the one aspect of judaism that explains why judaism survived at all survived in su too :
ascii_field: (hence why this is the only aspect of judaism that survived in su)
pete_dushenski: the optimists found their ways to the colonies where they could dream of valhalla, much to the detriment of art, goodness, etc
pete_dushenski: alf is definitely of the old skool, old country judaism : expects life to be rapey and generally full of suck
ascii_field: (and they'll give me a hat)
ascii_field: beard can wait for the camps
pete_dushenski: don't forget the payas.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:21:13; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
jurov: but iirc someone did check for correlations and there was none
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:45:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local social
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164922 << by this token, it doesn't even matter if mr chump signs or not. they will 'sign' for him, if needed.
pete_dushenski leaves this as an exercise for the reader
pete_dushenski: draw the line to see for yourself !
funkenstein_: space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:38:28; jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)
pete_dushenski: and everyone's worried he's going to use the last few drops of water to greenify another golf course
mircea_popescu: who the shit cares ? the "citizens" certainly don't. just as long as the new, improved, electronic and digital food stamps make it on time.
mircea_popescu: which is why setbacks in the indies caused commotion in london, but also why utter rape of the us throughout all its engagements since blackpresident and perhaps before don't even raise an eyebrow.
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea << they don't care one way or another, because they aren't actually invested in the thing. it's a meal ticket. who is going to care whether their meal ticket had a good day at work or a bad day at work ? it's work, it's what it does, fuck it.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha TheNewDeal 's "anti establishment slacks" omaigerd.
jurov: it's meant the bourbon era? i don't get it
pete_dushenski: i still like my way but you're the editor :)
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Then you gotta make your grammar work
pete_dushenski: fuck these turbo engines, wide tires, and supercomputer aerodynamics
menahem: prob the best time to be in Ottawa, though.
menahem: mostly to meet the in-laws :D
menahem: 2 weeks, then off to Ottawa for Canada day celebrations.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
menahem: copped a last minute to Paris and took the train
menahem: just got to Strasbourg and i'm 1/2 asleep from the flight