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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00042177 = 6.9381 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: decimation: schneier is a worrisome case because he was - very clearly - a genuine fighter against usg who later ended up on enemy side.
asciilifeform: and no one seems to know precisely how/why
asciilifeform: or even approximately when.
decimation: maybe his fight was always at least partially a show
asciilifeform: one hell of a show.
decimation: now as an old man, he can't sustain it
decimation: duh, first rule of marketing club is don't talk about marketing club
decimation: it's a good paper about the pointlessness of provability in crypto
asciilifeform: ^ classic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00042177 = 3.9435 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: and iirc i linked it here.
decimation: aye, I think so too
asciilifeform: students of elliptic curve crypto should find herr koblitz familiar name
decimation: "Once I heard a speaker from NSA complain about university researchers who are cavalier about proposing untested cryptosystems. He pointed out that in the real world if your cryptography fails, you lose a million dollars or your secret agent gets killed. In academia, if you write about a cryptosystem and then a few months later find a way to break it, you've got two new papers to add to your résumé!"
decimation: beware the academics baring 'ideas'
asciilifeform: decimation: yet another illustration of 'q: how do you know usg stooge is lying? a: his lips are moving'
asciilifeform: in the 'real world', 'your cryptography fails' sometimes leads to fat bribes in the form of business-as-usual from usg masters.
asciilifeform: all you gotta do is be the right usg catamite.
asciilifeform: !up referredbyloper
decimation: in one of his papers koblitz complains that the only thing 'cryptographers' care about is finding nifty new one-way functions
asciilifeform: it would be interesting to witness a post-purse cryptographic academia community
decimation: instead of trying to model and criticize anything resembling real-world crypto
asciilifeform: picture if the usg cocksuckers were discovered and removed.
asciilifeform: what, if anything, would remain ?
decimation: "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."
asciilifeform: if only only this.
decimation: ironically, if the NSA heckler is correct about the real-world pressure, such jingoism would be a disqualifier
decimation: "we thought our museum-fremen ways would impress you"
asciilifeform: i don't presently believe that nsa hired cryptographers for any purpose other than to take them out of circulation.
asciilifeform: (whatever talent they use in-house, they grow there, from larva.)
decimation: well, the job of usg is to spend money
decimation: just because they have in-house talent wouldn't exclude the possibility of pissing money away on other shit too
asciilifeform: decimation: the overall pattern is that they piss to drown, rather than nurture
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00042673 = 8.5773 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7817 @ 0.00041033 = 3.2075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20104 @ 0.00042763 = 8.5971 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00043125 = 22.8563 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00043335 = 1.4301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33601 @ 0.00043348 = 14.5654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80908 @ 0.00043396 = 35.1108 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: up it goes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 138000 @ 0.0004076 = 56.2488 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00040411 = 2.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00041981 = 8.3962 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23060 @ 0.00040639 = 9.3714 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00042803 = 6.6105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00043426 = 7.0606 BTC [+]
assbot: Documentation fixes for openssl-1.0.1g (Ubuntu 14.04) · Issue #57 · openssl/openssl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IhY3C0 )
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: good evening
ben_vulpes: ey caz
cazalla: silence dance party still ravin'?
ben_vulpes: nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten
ben_vulpes: everyone goes home politely but the vagrants
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00043467 = 6.0202 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042846 = 6.2127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30069 @ 0.00042632 = 12.819 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00041611 / 0.00043534 (5419913 shares, 2,255.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00033981 / 0.00038469 / 0.00043534 (18895378 shares, 7,268.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032646 / 0.00043534 (117114948 shares, 38,234.36 BTC)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00041703 = 2.9192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00041545 = 4.9439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18090 @ 0.00040831 = 7.3863 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042855 = 6.214 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00043535 = 28.8637 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.0004184 = 3.933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00041082 = 8.7915 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00040561 = 25.6954 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00041845 = 6.737 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004074 = 14.0553 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00041845 = 1.6215 BTC [+]
assbot: 1970s Men’s Fashion Ads You Won’t Be Able To Unsee | Bored Panda ... ( http://bit.ly/1HOuV9E )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041074 = 3.5324 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.85, Best ask: 240.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 239.85, 24 hour volume: 22945.68371812, 24 hour low: 234.56, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None
davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
davout: blergh
jurov: ;;ticker --currency EUR --market bitcoincentral
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 209.51, Best ask: 213.9, Bid-ask spread: 4.39000, Last trade: 213.9, 24 hour volume: 121.68340784, 24 hour low: 206.0, 24 hour high: 214.0, 24 hour vwap: 209.82578069
jurov: gribs forgot how to convert
jurov: ;;ticker --currency copper
gribble: Error: 'copper' is not a valid currency code.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00041192 = 23.2529 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: ;;ticker --currency "rickety reeds"
gribble: Error: 'rickety reeds' is not a valid currency code.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043163 = 13.9848 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.0004331 = 21.7849 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00043424 = 8.2723 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00041475 = 9.2904 BTC [-]
jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVg8dv )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local socialite!11". so in this
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 01:38:53; assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
mircea_popescu: , the guy's action to disclose was "reasonable", and your approach only works if you're there as an envoy of the most serene republic or the republic of china, and they are actually afraid that if they misbehave their children are going to be used as ingredients in someone's supper.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly as you point out, "the devil is not interested in lies, but in liars". so it is. with the caveat that it is not interested in THE TRUTH of anyone's being a liar, but in the useful political lie of anyone having been a liar.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense "cuomo might be corrupt". they... they just haven't figured it out yet lolz.
mircea_popescu: obama also "might" be corrupt. nixon "actually was" corrupt. the difference between these is left as an exercise, but not to the reader of history. it's strictly an exercise to the writer of history.
mircea_popescu: which is, incidentally, why any discussion with the devil may only logically start with a full and unwavering declaration from the devil that it is talking to ~the incorruptible~. ie, outside of its jurisdiction, they whose "corruptness" may not be judged by it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00040861 = 9.9701 BTC [-]
assbot: [CLOSING JUNE 30] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHe6My )
pete_dushenski: ^mining pool takes itself down because of 'bitlisence'
mircea_popescu: anyone ~else~ inclined to listen to gavin, take notice
mircea_popescu: that shit was top 2 not even A YEAR AGO.
pete_dushenski: btc guild listened to gavin ?
pete_dushenski: musta missed that
mircea_popescu: the original mike hearn induced hard fork.
pete_dushenski: aha them.
mircea_popescu: yes, them.
pete_dushenski: well good riddance to another scab.
mircea_popescu: had fallen into irrelevancy for a while now anyway.
pete_dushenski: looks like they're down to only 3% of hashrate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00041361 = 9.8026 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the thing the "community" prefers to ignore is that its continued existence is fully predicated on it being made 80% of people who are not older than six months and don't intend to be.
mircea_popescu: just like the "community" of high voltage wire lickers, or "transsexuals" or what have you may only exist for as long as it's entirely made of either fresh idiots or the trolls that bait them
pete_dushenski: sucks when they grow up eh.
pete_dushenski: really takes a dent out of their "popular support"
mircea_popescu: how many people came here with a "omg i can't believe how stupid i was" sorta thing.
pete_dushenski: i still get comments on contravex saying exactly that.
pete_dushenski: and i expect this will continue
mircea_popescu: prolly next year too.
pete_dushenski: speaking of recent commenters, i just had a guy drop a line on buying russian corporate bonds through an etf on lse
assbot: An exercise in buying 17% Russian bonds | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHf9fo )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Want to write up BTCGuild? I'm working on another social media failure story
pete_dushenski: not quite as juicy as the government bonds, but exposure to russian corporate bonds looks decently lucrative compared to western offerings
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: sure thing.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski hard to price the sovereign risk for russia tho
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well, not like pricing sovereign risk for usa is easy
pete_dushenski: in the short-term
pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11454 @ 0.00041361 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
mats: i hear pogs are blowing up
mircea_popescu: who even knows.
mircea_popescu: i wanna see whathappens once putin retires.
TheNewDeal: methinks gribble has been drinking today
pete_dushenski: he's probably got a decade yet
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 361193 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 1686 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski entirely up to him i would think, but yeah.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: as it's entirely up to you how long you feel like steering this ship. except you're, what, half putin's age.
pete_dushenski: hm. just checked, putin is 62, so not quite half but close enough
mircea_popescu: haha i think he's mebbe a tad more secure
pete_dushenski: give it time, man !
pete_dushenski: what is this, a race ?
pete_dushenski: he'll beat you to the grave, fear not.
mircea_popescu: that is likely.
pete_dushenski: so will merkel, so will jinping.
mircea_popescu: the chinese have been workingon animmortality pill for 3`000 years
mircea_popescu: they might get it
pete_dushenski goes to tap in the mines for qntra
decimation: pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0 < not so, usg will *always* repay usd debt
pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan
pete_dushenski: until she's not 16 anymore
decimation: the question is just how much usd it needs to magic into existence
pete_dushenski: until.... time
decimation: now, usg paying off gold debt....
decimation: the man who can print money is not a credit risk, he's a risk for something else
pete_dushenski: the man who can print money is perfectly capable of being a credit risk
pete_dushenski: you wanna lend money to mr. monopoly ?
decimation: are you supposing that in the crux he won't print?
pete_dushenski: you really think he can make enough money being a slumlord on James Street ?
decimation: well, his own scrip, sure
pete_dushenski: decimation: i'm supposing he will print 'in the crux' and that no one will take him anymore seriously than the streetwalker wearing 15 hats stacked one on top of the other
decimation: aye, well at that point anything denominated in usd is a risk
pete_dushenski: you see they both have a lottery ticket that they're still waiting to hear back from the corporate board on
pete_dushenski: the board had to reorganise and now everything's up in the air
pete_dushenski: but dun worry because the money is coming
decimation: the question of how long the dollar can 'levitate' as the world's reserve is an interesting one
decimation: and the most obvious 'sovereign risk' for usg
pete_dushenski: how long is kinda interesting in the sense of "how much time does that give us to stockpile useable computing hardware"
pete_dushenski: other than that...
pete_dushenski: the writing's on the wall and people can't ignore it indefinitely
decimation: agreed
TheNewDeal: pete_dushenski what's wrong with me wearing 15 hats?
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: nothing if you want to be a street urchin.
TheNewDeal: the finest there is!
pete_dushenski: and do some modeling for 70's men's magazines
pete_dushenski: decimation: if you're financially exposed to benefit from 'the event', as we all are, then it's a matter of how long can we be patient
decimation: yes, true
decimation: could be this year, could be 100 years
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES
pete_dushenski: decimation: could be, sure. 100 years ago : franz joseph i, today : merkel, 100 years hence : 4638 c4ca kinda thing
decimation: one obvious 'sword of Damocles' hanging over usg is the enormous dollar debt at very low interest
decimation: if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive
pete_dushenski: if they have to print to survive at 1%, for sure 10% will sting.
decimation: heh exactly
TheNewDeal: I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea
pete_dushenski: but hey, the pain plan cometh one way or another
pete_dushenski: the band-aid will be ripped off.
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: you are ?
decimation: the best I can tell usian muggles exhibit 'learned helplessness' that moldbug writes about
TheNewDeal: because every muggle is basically in debt up to their necks
TheNewDeal: so basically it's something they should comprehend easily
TheNewDeal: except for the making monopoly money via treasuries
pete_dushenski: decimation: and why shouldn't they ? there's clearly no future for them, despite their panglossian pretenses of "first, best, largest ever"
assbot: Learned helplessness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIovHO )
decimation: "Other experiments were performed with different animals with similar results. In all cases, the strongest predictor of a depressive response was lack of control over the aversive stimulus."
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: but if muggles can afford the debt and "everyone else is doing it"... hardly seems like a problem worth the bother
decimation: if you randomly zap an animal long enough, he learns to lay down and be useless, even if he could prevent it with simple actions
pete_dushenski: until, of course, reality smokes them upside the head and gives 'em a spin.
decimation off to the mines
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00042887 = 22.3441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00043051 = 14.5082 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70004 @ 0.00042953 = 30.0688 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107666 @ 0.0004352 = 46.8562 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: heya menahem
menahem: hey pimp slice
menahem: how are ya
pete_dushenski: no complaints man.
pete_dushenski: summary ?
menahem: 1/2 way, but garzik increasing the block size
menahem: in order to help "startups grow"!!1
pete_dushenski: up to 20mb a la usgavin ?
menahem: "3. Simultaneously, add a new floating block size limit, set to 1MB."
menahem: almost done
menahem: just got to Strasbourg and i'm 1/2 asleep from the flight
pete_dushenski: menahem: o hey mr. traveler.
menahem: copped a last minute to Paris and took the train
pete_dushenski: you staying in france ?
menahem: yea, probably take some day trips to Switz and Germany
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/2MH3VRM.txt << qntsideration
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: menahem: wicked. you gone for a week or two or more ?
menahem: 2 weeks, then off to Ottawa for Canada day celebrations.
pete_dushenski: heh go nationalism !
menahem: mostly to meet the in-laws :D
pete_dushenski: menahem: check out montreux
menahem: prob the best time to be in Ottawa, though.
pete_dushenski: if you get a chance
menahem: Yea lemme ask my Swiss bidness partner
menahem: he said it's nice. hey, btw, pete_dushenski you're off Formula 1 now ?
pete_dushenski: ayup. bernie has some work to do.
pete_dushenski: fuck these turbo engines, wide tires, and supercomputer aerodynamics
menahem: ha, you had sold me on it when you went to MTL last yr.
menahem: pete_dushenski, i gotta roll. i'll be on tomorrow all rested up. cheers all.
pete_dushenski: menahem: later dude.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: when i wrote "ancien fiat regime" it wasn't a typo of "ancient fiat regime"
pete_dushenski: la ancien regime is a thing
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Then you gotta make your grammar work
BingoBoingo: acien regime fiat?
BingoBoingo: *ancien regime fiat?
pete_dushenski: lol perhaps so
pete_dushenski: i still like my way but you're the editor :)
jurov: it's meant the bourbon era? i don't get it
BingoBoingo: fixed. One can't simple inject roman words without injecting roman grammar
pete_dushenski: jurov: 'old guard'
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: cool.
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.19, Best ask: 245.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.65000, Last trade: 245.19, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
davout: mircea_popescu: ^ 218 EUR/BTC
pete_dushenski: watch out 1000 eur/btc, here we coooome !
mircea_popescu: bwahaha TheNewDeal 's "anti establishment slacks" omaigerd.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive << actually even 1% is unsustainable atm.
mircea_popescu: which is why all this song and dance about recessions, low rates and permanently unelevated plateaus
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea << they don't care one way or another, because they aren't actually invested in the thing. it's a meal ticket. who is going to care whether their meal ticket had a good day at work or a bad day at work ? it's work, it's what it does, fuck it.
mircea_popescu: which is why setbacks in the indies caused commotion in london, but also why utter rape of the us throughout all its engagements since blackpresident and perhaps before don't even raise an eyebrow.
mircea_popescu: who the shit cares ? the "citizens" certainly don't. just as long as the new, improved, electronic and digital food stamps make it on time.
funkenstein_: !up ascii_field
funkenstein_: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.91, Best ask: 247.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 247.89, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: dollar crashing today.
pete_dushenski: mebbe because donald trump just announced his presidential candidacy.
pete_dushenski: and everyone's worried he's going to use the last few drops of water to greenify another golf course
funkenstein_: pete_dushenski, nice qntra piece :D
funkenstein_: trump? serious?
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: cheers. and yuppers.
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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 20:32:09; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ?
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.0, Best ask: 251.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.84000, Last trade: 252.0, 24 hour volume: 32018.7302065, 24 hour low: 235.5, 24 hour high: 247.1, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: porn in space looking to raise... $3.4 mn
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:38:28; jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)
funkenstein_: space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before
jurov: lolk i forgot to put "instantly"
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: pretty close to what ?
danielpbarron: doubling coin
pete_dushenski: snap. nice work !
pete_dushenski: at this rate, $3.4 mn for space porn will be 10 btc by tuesday.
pete_dushenski: draw the line to see for yourself !
TheNewDeal: indubitably
pete_dushenski leaves this as an exercise for the reader
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164922 << by this token, it doesn't even matter if mr chump signs or not. they will 'sign' for him, if needed.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:45:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local social
ascii_field: not like usg admits crypto-sigs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00043555 = 6.555 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: you should be trading for m.mpif !
danielpbarron: eh idk how good i really am; I'm finally starting to break even in USD terms I think
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: your skill is measured in your performance in btc terms
pete_dushenski: mebbe it's too soon to say that you're more than just lucky
BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00042046 / 0.00043555 (4516394 shares, 1,899.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00034281 / 0.00039037 / 0.00043555 (17417074 shares, 6,799.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032758 / 0.00043555 (117158331 shares, 38,379.04 BTC)
danielpbarron: i didn't see mpoe going as high as it is right now
danielpbarron: still got some though so w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00043555 = 12.9358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34770 @ 0.00043561 = 15.1462 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: s.mpoe may have some relation to today's btc bump
jurov: but iirc someone did check for correlations and there was none
jurov: !up _biO_
jurov: !up _biO__
mircea_popescu: davout not bad
davout: mircea_popescu: what?
mircea_popescu: you highlighted me re euro price
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042681 = 4.9937 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:21:13; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << ye hear that alf ? b,tmsro~ hereby orders you to grow a beard and wear a hat.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
pete_dushenski: don't forget the payas.
mircea_popescu: and papayas, ya
mircea_popescu: can hoola while he schools.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: beard can wait for the camps
ascii_field: (and they'll give me a hat)
pete_dushenski: alf is definitely of the old skool, old country judaism : expects life to be rapey and generally full of suck
ascii_field: hard to go wrong with this algo.
mircea_popescu: he's a russian orthodox jew
pete_dushenski: the optimists found their ways to the colonies where they could dream of valhalla, much to the detriment of art, goodness, etc
ascii_field: (hence why this is the only aspect of judaism that survived in su)
mircea_popescu: nah, the one aspect of judaism that explains why judaism survived at all survived in su too :
mircea_popescu: rachel's still a slut.
ascii_field: this too presumably lives somewhere. but i will have to take mircea_popescu's word for it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164769 << dunno how good for your wrists that thing is
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:59:10; ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00042647 = 21.6434 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00042664 = 4.2148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00042662 = 16.6595 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164790 << i really don't get it, isn't the point of these things to set an adolescent hookup ?
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:33:23; Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164796 << the effects of advanced senility can not be distinguished from the results of working for a government like
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:42:33; decimation: seems to me that he's going senile
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00042681 = 2.9219 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18154 @ 0.00042681 = 7.7483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043367 = 14.0509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26913 @ 0.00043139 = 11.61 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28480 @ 0.0004228 = 12.0413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00042186 = 17.2119 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164801 << ford went to work in a horsedrawn buggy for most of his life too.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:45:25; mod6: staggers the imagination
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38415 @ 0.00043609 = 16.7524 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44097 @ 0.00042541 = 18.7593 BTC [-]
jurov: would we have ever heard of bitcoin if satoshi eschewed windows?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00043609 = 15.6338 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i can definitely say i would have.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field confused. wtf good did it do anyone that he used winblows ?
mircea_popescu: i think his idea is "prosti da' multi"
jurov: mircea_popescu: you got the preport from people who used it on linux?
jurov: *report
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86035 @ 0.00043768 = 37.6558 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. all the people that insisted and eventually got me to check it out, on both episodes, run open source stuff
mircea_popescu: most of which some sort of linux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26398 @ 0.00042631 = 11.2537 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !UP ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51293 @ 0.00043725 = 22.4279 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 14:18:50; pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00043883 = 15.5346 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10602 @ 0.00042631 = 4.5197 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: cazalla: What's the shame. She made money young and nao does what she wants?
lobbes: BingoBoingo: shame due to her becoming a walking corpse
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Maybe she's secretly trans-zombie but not out of that closet yet?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165022 <<< two of those adverts sport "made in australia" (bonds and jockey).. there was a bonds factory not far from where i grew up and my mother would take us in there now and again to buy factory seconds as it was cheaper.. in they end they closed up shop and moved to china
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 14:28:24; assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES
cazalla: BingoBoingo, lobbes pretty much has it, girl isn't even 30 yet believe it or not
cazalla: mind you, i'd still fuck her
BingoBoingo: I know.
jurov: anyone else got likely scam from azelphur.irc@gmail.com ?
jurov: "Hello my friend , how is going, long time i didn't see u on IRC .When u have time pls email me i have some offer .Thanks"
Azelphur: heh, not my address / not an address I control.
BingoBoingo: jurov: Got one fron DoctorBTC
Azelphur: there has been some guy on a mission impersonating me on OTC recently, must be the same fellow.
BingoBoingo: Replied saying no, not at this price figuring it was legit.
punkman: do these come at your gpg email address?
jurov: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00044046 = 2.7309 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
BingoBoingo: Well, the -otc dom
davout: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3VFDE27.txt )
lobbes: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165236 << wait till they start uploading 'magic' keys for us to sks
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 20:30:24; mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
mike_c: does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?
jurov: mike_c: why? kako had some rumors
mike_c: i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.
mike_c: I know their site runs off django, but i seriously doubt their trading engine is python
mike_c: I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces
jurov: api goes straight to trade engine, i guess
mike_c: but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage
mike_c: or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.
jurov: how would the db hard to manage?
mike_c: !up gernika
gernika: thx
mike_c: change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..
mike_c: not very DRY
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132050 @ 0.0004406 = 58.1812 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..
jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql backup
assbot: 0 results for 'kakobrekla mysql backup' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql+backup
trinque: eh not necessarily; they'd be hitting the same db but for different reasons
jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql
assbot: 6 results for 'kakobrekla mysql' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql
gernika: This was roughly around the time of the scam foundation's first conf in San Jose.
jurov: ^ last hit there
kakobrekla: iirc they had a single process with a half a second sleep each time for engine
mike_c: nice
kakobrekla: hence bids bigger than asks and shit
gernika: ah shit - that's right they were usnig node.js for the price ticker
mike_c: greater number of software stacks = greater success
trinque: mike_c: anything that might be duplicated between two things accessing the db could be a view in the db instead
trinque: tends to be my opinion that people have largely forgotten the art of database views
mike_c: yeah.. i guess i'm thinking about business logic. needs to be separated very cleanly for this to work.
trinque: all that hairy node/django/whatever... it all tends to be poorly written substitutes for db queries
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185050 @ 0.00042846 = 79.2865 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2586559 "On average, Bitcoinist has 350,000+ unique visitors a month with 550,000 page views, and this is increasing every month." it's a press release mind you.. it's growing so much they're discounting their ad spots!
assbot: Bitcoin News Platform Bitcoinist.net Experiences Rapid Growth Announces 30% Discount For Advertisers - Press Release - Digital Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1TrxUJA )
ben_vulpes: trinque: but sql's scary
ben_vulpes: i can't handle relational algebra
ben_vulpes: math is hard
ben_vulpes: and django does so much thinking for me!
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes uses django?
mike_c: it says so on his webpage
thestringpuller: cascadianhacker?
BingoBoingo: nah, his something jimmies page
trinque: hueeee
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah and django has a sweet conference!
ben_vulpes: so friendly!
ben_vulpes: and the people have such cool hair!
ben_vulpes: 'something jimmies' < hyu
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: you ever get the rng working ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla how much do they charge ?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: need a digital-analog capture story
ben_vulpes: sorry, analog-digital capture
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: no you don't. it's a logic-level out!
mircea_popescu: in other news, i stumbled upon a selection of trade engines : http://i.imgur.com/oBOraiD.jpg
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: v_high ~= v_supply
mike_c: da fuq are those? porcupines?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Hedgehogs
ben_vulpes: what hardware an i use to capture that, though? i'm blocked on true serial capture until i procure a device that has true serial in
BingoBoingo: porcupines and that hand would likely have quills embedded already
mike_c: heh, yeah. cute little buggers.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: try ftdi245
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: or logic analyzer (unlike the affair i described last week, this doesn't need a fast one)
ascii_field: if you own so much as a 1970s-era analyzer, it'll do
BingoBoingo: All day today there has been a rather spectacular box turtle nomming on the slugs in the front flowerbeds, hope the little dude settles down there for a bit
BingoBoingo: "If a pet hedgehog appears to be gaining too much weight, it is important that the hedgehog’s caretaker cut back on high fat foods and increase exercise. Hedgehogs vary in size so there is no "goal weight" for a hedgehog, but if they can no longer roll completely into a ball it is a pretty clear sign of obesity" << hedgehogs can become hedge hamplanets too.
ben_vulpes: hamplanetoid
ben_vulpes: hamrock trapped in a hamity well
ben_vulpes: hamityvill horror
BingoBoingo actually saw and AMBULATORY! galaxy today at the liquor store. Circumfrence roughly 0.8x height
ben_vulpes: i've seen a bit more of the same lately.
BingoBoingo: Was driving suspiciously nice car and carrying brown bag out at 8:15ish in the morning
BingoBoingo: Sorry, not circumfrence, diameter
BingoBoingo: Diameter is the one you can eyeball in profile view. Diameter 0.8x height.
BingoBoingo: circumfrence 0.8x height might not even qualify as planet sometimes.
thestringpuller: the real question BingoBoingo is why were you at the liquor store at 8:15ish in the morning?
ben_vulpes: orbital body
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Cheapest cigarettes in town
thestringpuller: Answer is acceptable.
BingoBoingo: Also switched a big chunk of domicile's lighting to LED today so need liquor later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00042266 = 14.7086 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122600 @ 0.00043877 = 53.7932 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
trinque: https://medium.com/@InertialLemon/apple-s-bitcode-telegraphs-future-cpu-plans-a7b90d326228 << I read this as indicating that in the future, Apple apps will be submitted as signed "bitcode", not a signed executable binary
assbot: Apple’s Bitcode Telegraphs Future CPU Plans — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8NzO )
trinque: leaving apple free to modify the thing at will from that point forward?
assbot: #786909 - chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob - Debian Bug report logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8V2e )
trinque: mats: "ok google" without consent, loool
mats: oops
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042746 = 10.0453 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately after the machine is on-line it silently starts downloading "Chrome Hotword Shared Module" extension, which contains a binary without source code. There seems no opt-out config.'
mats: all this stuff referring to the OPM hack as "cyber katrina" is also great
mats: "cyber 9/11"
mats: "cyber pearl harbor"
ascii_field: so where the hell is the public dump.
trinque: I'm sure the chinese would rather quietly blackmail people for a while
trinque: so which is it... is cyber-sekurity important, or does encryption "lead us to a dark place"
trinque: bunch of bumbling morons
ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Just puts usg's loyal still more in debt
trinque: ascii_field: I think you're right that the most critical systems are held to a *much* higher standard than this
trinque: yet those critical systems may be completely surrounded by leper colonies of lesser employees' winderz boxen
ascii_field: trinque: recall when pentagon was pwned ?
ascii_field: what, of any consequence, as far as publicly known, walked away ?
trinque: maybe nothing, though if it had I might say otherwise publically
ascii_field: other thing is, only 'positive' items are even theoretically possible to authenticate. that is, if you find a leak purporting to be from the directorate-of-cracking-rsa, stating that 'sixteen quintillion bezzlars and still no result,' this could be disinfo. whereas 'here's how to factor $maxint on a pocket calculator' is testable.
ascii_field: in as far as i can tell, all of the 'compromises' of the past decade are cultivated reichstag fires, arranged to fatten the kompyooter insekoority 'industry'
ascii_field: and the agent of a particular compromise is the sysadmin who installed winblows, and only distantly and secondarily anybody else.
trinque: yeah I can see that angle
trinque: inconsequential breach == huge check to contractor X
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00042142 = 6.3634 BTC [-]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, $14.5 USD / 1K impressions for top 728x90 and 300x250 $9 / 1K impressions on the lower end
cazalla: minimum of 50k imp
jurov: !s blokchain
assbot: 0 results for 'blokchain' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blokchain
jurov: public notice: never open "blockchain" links in email
assbot: Bitcoin Address ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnxvE )
jurov: with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
trinque: jurov: used curl, didn't spot anything; XSS?
jurov: no, that tx plainly does not exist. look very closely to the url
trinque: oh lol
jurov: maybe there's some bad js too, but noscript blocked it
ascii_field: appears to be a single-shot
ascii_field: (loads 1ce per ip)
ascii_field: classic sp4mz0r trick
punkman: jurov, guy pretending he deposited to coinbr?
jurov: no, coinroll (but same applies)
punkman: guess he does this a lot if he made up a blockhain.info clone. gotta wonder who actually fell for it
ascii_field: https://transparencytoolkit.org/icwatch << it will be interesting to see, when the chinese list is spilled, if the two agree.
assbot: ICWATCH | Transparency Toolkit ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnVKC )
ascii_field: if not, one or both is disinfo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46203 @ 0.00043694 = 20.1879 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21497 @ 0.00044277 = 9.5182 BTC [+]
assbot: This Shadow Government Agency Is Scarier Than the NSA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSocNE )
Azelphur: jurov: mind forwarding that email to me? I'm curious :)
jurov: which? the one "from you" or the "deposit"?
Azelphur: the one from the fake me :)
Azelphur: azelphur@azelphur.com be the real address :)
jurov: i quoted it here whole, there was only one sentence
jurov: or you want to see headers?
Azelphur: yep, I want the headers
jurov: sent
BingoBoingo: The reply looks like: "I know , i need them tonight ,it is stupid to ask ,but if u can loan me i will be happy + u get % from me . U get them back for 24h with 5% profit"
Azelphur: thanks :)
assbot: Olive Python eating Australian Freshwater Crocodile - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSoRPa )
BingoBoingo: So, Jurassic World actually surprisingly good film. Improvement over the original in that it portrays people at their actual level of stupidity.
cazalla: might go and see it in a few weeks time, not too fussed on sitting through 30 minutes of commercials with a bunch of louts
cazalla: (i was actually tempted to go last night but settled on rambo@home)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00044307 = 24.6568 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00042255 = 18.5499 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: It takes just a few minutes of time to get over the gut reaction that the dinosaurs should look better, but the practical effects in the first movie were so good and inflation adjusted this one had a much smaller budget.
BingoBoingo: The dynamics of the human drama tho, very realistic even if the characters themselves are rather stupid
BingoBoingo: scoopbot_revived: fetch?
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
BingoBoingo: ^ Cuckolding just for you mircea_popescu
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I'd like to watch. I thought it was filled of cliches.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: It is, but in a good way
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: nice! I think worth try.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Probably the best film out of Hollywood since "Million Dollar Baby"
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: wow! That is surprisingly to me
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: I may also be a flawed judge of films though.
BingoBoingo: I thoroughly enjoyed "The Highlander" as an example
felipelalli: ahhahaha well, I'll try anyway and I tell you!
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: what about "Transformers"? The worst film I watched ever.
BingoBoingo: If you are too risk averse you could always try the safe torrent and then pay option
BingoBoingo: Much better than Transformers
BingoBoingo: Transformers kind sucked except for the visual spectacle of robot combat in the first movie and never even had that in the later films
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
BingoBoingo: !gettrust Duffer1
assbot: Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Duffer1: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/
BingoBoingo: !gettrust assbot Duffer1
assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user Duffer1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Are you familar with how to auth with assbot post split?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00041964 = 23.29 BTC [-] {2}
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: why gribble don't catch the ! commands in this channel as well? I use !gettrust to gribble in other channels.
felipelalli: ;;gettrust BingoBoingo
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 7 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Because in this one gribble only responds to ;; command
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: is that a modified gribble?
BingoBoingo: No idea.
felipelalli: Is that a modified gribble?
felipelalli: ;;8ball
gribble: About as likely as pigs flying.
BingoBoingo: Any obvious errors in the Hulkster piece?
mats: felipelalli: same gribble, assbot takes ! so the trigger is different to prevent collisions
assbot: The Creator of Linux on the Future Without Him - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm2Iu0 )
cazalla: BingoBoingo, turned an a to an an but other than that, gg
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Thanks
mircea_popescu: wait... hulk hogan ?!
felipelalli: mats: but gribble also takes ! in other channels, but in this channel gribble ignores it.
mircea_popescu: is that some wrestler dude from back when i still did teenagers one at a time ?!
mats: yes
cazalla: mircea_popescu, that's him and he stretched as far as down under back then
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed it was the dude who lifted Andre the Giant
assbot: BTC Guild: Closing After Choosing Wrong Side of History | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm3p6o )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ?
cazalla: andre was bigger than himself down under
mircea_popescu: scarcely could there be more poetry in ther world.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ? << Yes
cazalla: GBANGA! (who is this guy lol)
mircea_popescu: i dunno but he's active.
mircea_popescu: also, heather clem looks made to be fucked on cam and naught else.
BingoBoingo: Also, the "Love Sponge" is a radio personality and not a fellow wrassler
mircea_popescu: "I should make it clear: we would have settled too, in the interest of fighting another day, if Hogan’s demands were reasonable and the story flawed in any way. But now that the trial is on, we intend to fight it as far as we need to and we can." = we have as much money as josh garza
mircea_popescu: radio personality ?!
mircea_popescu: what is this, the late 1890s ?
mircea_popescu: anyway very nice work BingoBoingo
cazalla: mircea_popescu, which isn't much these days, it would appear he pawned his domain https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/14048
assbot: [SCAM] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud - GetHashing Crypto Community Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLXow7 )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know like the assholes who keep music from playing on music stations in the morning so instead you set the car's radio to less shitty talk radio all day
mircea_popescu: cazalla i doubt they're selling anything whatsoever at those prices, but hey. the world was made out of pretense.
mircea_popescu: not this world, but a world somewhere sometime. let's pretend it was, at any rate.
cazalla: well if he has no intention to repay the loan, i'm sure he is happy to take anything he can get
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways from what I understand Nick Denton's peak wealth was right around 8-9 figure sum of dollars and he sunk nearly all of it on Gawker Media liberalizing everything. This is likely a move to justify outside investors covering his loss and letting USG propaganda outlet pass to other hands.
mircea_popescu: mats hey, it worked for "cybersex"
assbot: Hulk Hogan-Gawker Lawsuit False Flag For Investment Scam? : conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm4oDO )
mircea_popescu: * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
mircea_popescu: <jurov> with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued << nuts eh.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D << USG atm is in its "Opium Wars" phase except it is both Britain and China.
mats: it really pleases me that qntra works in lynx
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no way in fuck did anyone sink 1 billion into gawker
mircea_popescu: !up DanielBTC
mircea_popescu: the entire budget for the thing's entire existence is a coupla mil or so. this spercifically discounting all pretense.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 9's hundred million? But yeah couple mill per year. Even the first years Gawker cost a few million a year when it was one hired girl and the celebrity stalker because "viral" cost millions paid to Newsweek and other dead trees to get any attention at all.
BingoBoingo: mats: Qntra is optimized for lynx
BingoBoingo: Intentionally optimized for lynx
mats: hogan cucked
mats: thats rich
shinohai: ;;later tell ben_vulpes compiled on Debian Jessie and Ubuntu 14.04
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: if the price keeps going up so fast i'm gonna get fucked on that above $280 bet :\ pls wait 4 days kgo
BingoBoingo: mats: Well, if you are going to get a bull to cuck your wife, but you don't want black in your wife... limits your options...
mats: i wonder if this is how history will remember gawker
mats: destroyed because hulk hogan is on tape asking to be cucked
cazalla: i thought it was hogan fucking the other guy's missus?
BingoBoingo: mats: No, Hogan is doing the cucking as cazalla says
mats: oh right
cazalla: hulk need money? not sure why he'd be so butthurt, not like it was a gay sex tape or something
BingoBoingo: The short of the drama around the tape is Hogan thought he was doing a service by satisfying this guy's wife. The cuckold and his wife violated Hogan's trust by videotaping this charitable act.
BingoBoingo: !up Petit_Dejeuner
assbot: signify shortcomings ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm75oP )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165471 << let's put it this way: i look out the window, and see usg. when it is no longer there, then - yes, defeated
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 23:52:10; mircea_popescu: * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D
asciilifeform: or, something more practical, when somebody tells me what the weak class of aes keys is.
asciilifeform: or a plausible story re: why 'whirlpool' was rejected.
asciilifeform: or, or.
asciilifeform: or, to take a different tack, when 1,001 usg weapons caches in eastern eu and ru are loudly and publicly blown up
asciilifeform: or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences.
asciilifeform: there was no shortage of these when su was imploding
asciilifeform: it is entirely fair to hold the u.s. collapse to the same historical standard.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00041962 = 32.3107 BTC [-]
funkenstein_ is curious what alf sees out the window
funkenstein_ frowns at new tabloid qntra
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: What's tabloid?
BingoBoingo: If you are talking about Nick Denton's impending abandonment of Gawker Media... Very early qntra was far less kind to GAW Miners going so far as to label them "Jizz Moppers"
trinque: ^ points to a serious decline if you ask me
trinque: (just kidding)
BingoBoingo: It is seriously not a secret at all that Nick Denton sucks cocks. That would literally be the opposite of news.
funkenstein_: gotta keep up with the celebrity gossip i guess
funkenstein_: that's why i read kunstler
funkenstein_: no sorry, likely i am just ignorant and gawker has some importance I don't know about
BingoBoingo: It has tremendous importance in the same way the white squared Bishop does on a chess board.
trinque checks the front page of gawker
trinque: yeah... death to gawker
trinque: here's a lol
assbot: Ex-NFL Cheerleader Pleads Guilty to Raping 15-Year-Old Boy ... ( http://bit.ly/1HR5NiH )
danielpbarron: !up DanielBTC
cazalla: 48 year old cheerleader, i guess that could've been traumatic but i would've been quite happy to fuck that at 15
cazalla: prob not brag worthy to ya mates though
BingoBoingo: !up ag3nt_zer0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00042038 = 1.5247 BTC [+]
ag3nt_zer0: Hey thanks BingoBoingo
ag3nt_zer0: how's it going?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: did you get your gpg sorted?
DanielBTC: Hi people. Thanks for the voice danielpbarron
DanielBTC: I new here in this channel I will read a little the wiki =)
BingoBoingo: Oh things are things
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttchina
gribble: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.721972, Best ask: 252.369594, Bid-ask spread: 0.64762, Last trade: 252.369594, 24 hour volume: 29606.80310000, 24 hour low: 237.09087, 24 hour high: 258.087033, 24 hour vwap: 245.967301408
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah I am thinking since I was told yesterday that doing it right means local and plaintext then it doesnt really matter that it is linked to something that can operate with thunderbird and enigmail... I can simply keep it linked to my tutanota account... this makes sense to me but I don't know shit about this stuff...
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 246.97, Best ask: 247.15, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 247.16, 24 hour volume: 18553.50125584, 24 hour low: 234.35, 24 hour high: 252.2, 24 hour vwap: 243.254668613
felipelalli: welcome DanielBTC! He's a personal friend, same city as mine.
ag3nt_zer0: I am coinfused as to how the "keys" work though... is my "fingerprint" my public key?
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: Any pop3 or imap email that allows your client direct access to smtp for outgoing is fine
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: no, that is a unique identifier for your public key
BingoBoingo: or at least "unique"
ag3nt_zer0: BingoBoingo: yes but if I am encrypting plaintext then I am just attaching the file... tutanota, which I set it up with, provides their own encryption, so it isnt pop3 or imap... I think... they told me they cant do that since they are encrypted
assbot: PROTAC Goes Small-Molecule. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MJEhCN )
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: Then don's bother with them. encyt your plaintext to asciiarmored plaintext.
danielpbarron: !up ahmed_
ahmed_: awesome ty
BingoBoingo: Then pass around armored text blobs
ahmed_: danielpbarron: do you want BTC or do u want LTC?
danielpbarron: ultimately i'm gonna trade the LTC for btc, so if you can cut out that step that would be great
ahmed_: alright sure
BingoBoingo: I dun know what tutanota is, but he ideal email provider is three steps dumber than rocks
ag3nt_zer0: tinque: ok, so this is what will be public? and then how do I decrypt?
ahmed_: shoot me the private key in PM and i'll shoot u the BTC? or vice versa
trinque: lol what
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: gpg --export --armor <your email address>
ahmed_: danielpbarron: ^
danielpbarron: ahmed_,
trinque: danielpbarron: send me your private keys kthx
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: maybe I'll be back in a year if I get a clue haha
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: first focus on learning to use the program gpg
trinque: don't worry about email and such
trinque: encrypt and decrypt a textfile using your own key
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: ok sounds good... maybe I am looking at the "keys" wrong... since pgp is called the bitcoin-standard in encrypted communications, I just assumed it would have a public key/private key situation similar to BTC and that this would be how to encrypt and decrypt
trinque: it does have that.
ag3nt_zer0: I will play with it and figure out how to do that basic step first... thanks
trinque nods
cazalla: !up Vexual
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.ahmed_.1:dd5d24e5880aa2f04ebe18036995bc8d7df99e83fe9d73a12d40f1ca56640900
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for ahmed_ with note: Litecoin trader
ahmed_: awesome
ahmed_: ty danielpbarron
danielpbarron: now you can voice yourself in here with /msg assbot !up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42973 @ 0.00042474 = 18.2524 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18877 @ 0.00043601 = 8.2306 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: and thank you! saved me from having to install some sketchy Litecoin thing just to sell it
trinque: ah that's what he meant re: privkeys
danielpbarron: i had this paper wallet from back when I was into altcoins, and today the price of LTC is way up for some reason so i figured i'd finally get rid of that thing
cazalla: meh litecoin price is just chinese exchanges doing what chinese do best.. scamming
cazalla: that jubi exchange has been doing it past few weeks with coins like vertcoin
BingoBoingo: So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting.
trinque: much better light than that fluorescent shit
Vexual: from rural king?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, you accepting LED bitcoin mining gifts from bitfury or something? should disclose such a thing eh?
asciilifeform only accepts optical, quantum interference mining modules from 'bitlazy'
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Nah, walmart had marked down an older model bulb to clearance, scooped a bunch up. Prolly should have checked for network connectivity and miners
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform only accepts optical, quantum interference mining modules from 'bitlazy' << lol
BingoBoingo: One can only evaluate bitlazy in haskell
asciilifeform: BitLazy! the reich's #1-selling bitcotron! Mine While Not Giving a Flying Fuck (TM) (R)
Vexual: fucklazy (tm)
cazalla: BingoBoingo, what are they rated to last for? i usually go whatever is cheapest on account all that shit is made in china and probably won't last near what they claim it will (but just long enough that i've binned receipt)
asciilifeform: '...aaaand remember kidddz! Tarpy the Terror Tamarind says: Only YOU can prevent Financial Terrorism!'
asciilifeform switches off time machine, goes back to wurk
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Every single one everywhere here says up to 22 years so all are bullshitting. I just got to cut consumption vs. previous socket occupants
cazalla: lol 22 years
asciilifeform: 'lifetime warranty.' 'whose life?' 'product's'
Vexual: usually
Vexual: if it breaks they update the model nummber
BingoBoingo: !up joecool
Vexual: tv is covered with the scandal of isis agents paying us100's to poor fishermen to take refugees back to indo
Vexual: *asis
BingoBoingo: Moar like AssAss
Vexual: poor fucks might still have their money if it was bitcoin
joecool: BingoBoingo: hey, thanks... i'm in wot though, or did you just miss hearing from me?
BingoBoingo: Just missed you
Vexual: hey duffer
Duffer1: hi guys :) sorry gotta run, afk a bit
assbot: BBC Sport - Lotto Cycling Cup organisers apologise for bikini models ... ( http://bit.ly/1GXSZb7 )
cazalla: surprised they're yet to attack boxing ring girls yet
cazalla: gee google is shit.. i search "word antonym".. did you mean "word synonym" ?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Ring girls are protected by the mighty pay-per-view barrier
cazalla: BingoBoingo, not every fight is ppv though yet pletny of ring girls to be found on the shitty circuits they show here down under
cazalla: !up Vexual
Vexual: BingoBoingo, The ring girls for our fight are prolly geing born now
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Probably
Vexual: or failing at school
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00041783 = 8.6909 BTC [-] {3}
decimation: maybe they are maths geniuses
Vexual: they can add n to 1
asciilifeform: why would those watch a match, l0l. they fuck 24/7
Vexual: i dunno about maths geniuses, but i know bb knows i don't know to box, and wouldnt expose himself to the spectacle
assbot: The tragedy of GNU copyright assignments -- Werner's own blurbs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdiWNo )
asciilifeform: 'Libgcrypt now accepts contributions after having received a simple mail (right, e-mail, no transatlantic snail mail) with a Developer’s Certificate of Origin as known from other projects. Voilà, patches with new features and performance improvements started to come in.'
asciilifeform: ^ ?!#!@??@?$%%!!!!!
decimation: asciilifeform: stallman sits upon emacs, etc
asciilifeform: 'The FSFE's December newsletter mentioned this article. For whatever reasons it suddenly disappeared from the website. A diff against Google's cache shows...'
decimation: asciilifeform: who are these contributors who were afraid of contributing to a gnu (instead of werner) copyright?
Vexual: diff us
decimation: "as u see on this postcard im in great country of fuckwitstan. pls to commit my patches ur cryptolib"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19198 @ 0.00041648 = 7.9956 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42555 @ 0.0004159 = 17.6986 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: a popular process these days no?
Vexual: fucklazy is never good
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17223 @ 0.00042444 = 7.3101 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "defeated" != "any sort of defeat".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you have to appreciate i don't do bezzle. that "couple mil" per year was about 20k actual deductibles and the rest fluff.
mircea_popescu: <mats> i wonder if this is how history will remember gawker << it's certainly how i'll remember it. "that wanna-be news-livejournal thing that got destroyed by hulk hogan"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences. << the "unambiguous" in there is a no true scotsman. you know for a fact that leaks to date have had physical consequences of the worst kind for the twerps in question, and you know they know, and you can observe them act in consequence of that knowledge. they digested the fact they are informationally defeated.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but you have to consider Denton only does Bezzel, Blow Jobs, and Loss leading social engineering. From what I understand he hit his peak wealth before Gawker got close to popular. Much like i hit peak fitness a decade ago befor I had internet connected terminal at "werk"
mircea_popescu: yeah well. sucks to be him,
BingoBoingo: Sure, but his gay is more accept nao than Turing's was then. Even though he also had to bankroll fat acceptance, Kardashians, and lets hate athletic success to make it happen.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting. << so they are. also they bother the fauna, so less racoons
BingoBoingo: The stray cats adore them
decimation: mircea_popescu: 'has physical consequences' seems like a solid criteria, not 'no true scotsman'
mircea_popescu: the kardasshian part in there is understandable.
mircea_popescu: decimation everything's ambiguous if you wish it to be
BingoBoingo: Sure, the Kim subtype has an ass.
BingoBoingo: The other's are too hammy
decimation: in the case in question though, I think it does do damage to usg where it hurts
mircea_popescu: the others didn't have the gumption tro spend a coupla years as paris hilton's foot slaves
mircea_popescu: this makes a difference.
BingoBoingo: No they didn't
mircea_popescu: decimation look at it this way :
mircea_popescu: !s we know where you live
assbot: 7 results for 'we know where you live' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=we+know+where+you+live
mircea_popescu: and for that matter
mircea_popescu: !s from:mircea you get killed
assbot: 11 results for 'from:mircea you get killed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea+you+get+killed
mircea_popescu: generally, early discussion of later to be publicly known stuff is considered unambiguous enough.
decimation: not to minimize your reign of terror, but I think usg servants fear chinese agents even more
mircea_popescu: but obviously unambiguity standards vary.
mircea_popescu: why would they be able to distinguish ?
BingoBoingo: Kim has an ass that can only be built from Armenia, Squats, and slavish dedication. Kim's sisters... Have bodies built by lazy and spandex tressing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's rephrase. ever heard of a fella named sergey motorin? adolf tolkachev ?
cazalla: fwiw i don't even think she's that attractive (bisfh obviously)
asciilifeform: su folks who turned coat and worked for usg. outed, and shot
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck apologizes for women that look good in bikinis
asciilifeform: that's 'physical consequence'
asciilifeform: and it was (after a bit) public
mircea_popescu: and you don't like the sean guy because reasons.
asciilifeform always thought this photo was an in-joke of some sort
asciilifeform: usg could answer the 'we know where you live' with 'so what, come and get it'
BingoBoingo pretty sure best thing at stopping USG action is other USG inertia and USG molasses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00043635 = 6.1525 BTC [+]
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