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mircea_popescu: or if there wasn't steam, which is the bane of every glasses wearer.
midnightmagic: sunglasses in the bath would work better if there was actual sunlight which made the sunglasses a requirement
mircea_popescu: haha what's that on the monkey's shoulder
mircea_popescu: punkman ahaha someone should just replace the pics with pot and stuff, then republish it.
mircea_popescu: sunglasses in the bath!
mircea_popescu is too meh over the entire ycombinator kaboodle to go look at hn.
midnightmagic: The other markers of stupidity are absent; his grammar is nearly perfect, and the observations are ironic and deeply philosophical -- *as troll posts*.
mircea_popescu: what she means when she says things like " she did not really know this part/the client thing in that much detail" is simply that well... she didn't have to rewrite it three-four times yet
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic you know that theory that past a certain level of stupidity the two are indistinguishable yes ?
mircea_popescu: i think the loot code was rewritten fully about four times. this doesn't count all the times it got partially rewritten.
jurov: i got an impression mp reels against something different that the OP
mircea_popescu: and complain about how the speed of light is unfair and the camera view should be less made out of straight lines.
mircea_popescu: and when the fuck did "hacker" news turn into pink collar support group already. if you don't like working with the people that make the things you like to use, go webcam.
mircea_popescu: the entire trade is predicated on "in the contest between what's right and what's pleasant - i pick the pleasant"
mircea_popescu: anyone who values "personal relationships" / "people themselves" / whatever other feel good idiotarianism over "abstract rules" / "technical" / blabla is ipso facto an idiot.
assbot: The definitive tract on sociopathy on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HguqVk )
punkman: maybe if you stopped breaking things they'd like you
punkman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9771219 "They value "the right technical decision" over human relationships and it doesn't seem to occur to them that the right outcome might be the one that makes someone else happy, or is the most diplomatic, even if it isn't "technically right"."
mircea_popescu: anyway, funny how slavic spanish is. i suppose it's due to them both starting with s.
gribble: Croatian Phrases - Nema Problema - Croatia Report: <http://www.croatiareport.com/crophrases2.html>; Nema problema (1984) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180867/>; Nema problema (1984 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nema_problema_(1984_film)>
gribble: Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/>; Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights ...: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/20/openbsd_bailed_out/>; MPEx - Bitcoin Wiki: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx>
mircea_popescu: they're both a sort of selflessness.
mircea_popescu: hello there.
asciilifeform: or perhaps he didn't care for ~that~ kind of whore either
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-06-2015#1174034 << idk if this is still a thing. (who wants to 'marry the u.s. passport' today?)
asciilifeform tries to find example of similar hanging in the literature, but can only recall the 1890s electromechanical contraption built in new york prison by one fella, for his own (official!) hanging
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whores make the only sort of wife worth having tho.
mircea_popescu: from the logs, at some random point he just shows up, logs in and fills my buffers.
mircea_popescu: the latter. there's two different things killing you if you try too many times.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i forgot to ask.. did the spammer login with the password or hammer login with various passwords until he got in?
jurov: anime fangirls would kill for these eyes
cazalla: so where are the pics?
mircea_popescu: nazi[onal] socialism being, of course, just another socialism.
mircea_popescu: "The problem, of course, is that this is also the United Kingdom in the world we live in right now."
assbot: England Prevails | The Occidental Observer - White Identity, Interests, and Culture ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kckoqx )
mircea_popescu: "With its subversive political allegory - including a terrorist as the leading man - and clear-cut leftist sensibilities, V for Vendetta is the kind of movie that the conservative right will have a field day with."
mircea_popescu: o noes, the bare legs of some rural wench. england prevails!
mircea_popescu: "Councillor Karen Danczuk, wife of Labour MP for Rochdale, Simon, has been tweeting selfies that show her cleavage. The 31-year-old councillor for Kingsway, who also runs a deli with her husband, has uploaded photos of her cleavage in a bikini and another of her bare legs."
mircea_popescu: punkman1 i'm frankly surprised at the hefty chunk left in the 90 days range. i think that graph is bogus, and the real graph is a lot more like f'(x) = f(x)^3.something, where we take probabilities as from 0 to 1.
mircea_popescu: at least a coupla wrote to me to derp, back during the slashdot censorship days
cazalla: BingoBoingo, looks like they finally had the coins made one of your articles mentiond a few months back http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11694838/Islamic-State-mints-its-own-Islamic-Dinar-coins.html
BingoBoingo: ^ For the nailgun chronicles
phf: it's doing all the right things, i.e. wouldn't connect until explicitly given addnode, discurding bastard blocks, hovering at 62mb. block count 129821 right now
asciilifeform: 'doing the things the tachyon can!'
asciilifeform: (sf twist! mircea_popescu's bitcoind is therealbitcoin 1.000, transmitted backwards in time!!1111!!1)
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would she be a movie star if she weren't ?
mircea_popescu: kinda like asking whether any "movie star" is ever not under contract.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Logged on 23-06-2015 23:47:40; pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ? <<< nobody you'd ever hear about.
mircea_popescu: eventually people get old, so they sit around an' compare.
asciilifeform wonders how mircea_popescubitcoind compares with therealbitcoin_asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: yeah, kinda why i'm bothering. this is the mother of them all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well yes, but what's in there? mircea_popescu's pdp-11 port ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i wanted to use perhaps the oldest chain still in continuous existence
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: should revv up just in time for somebody to finally make sense of the static build thing, lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coupla days is apparently like two weeks. blockchain's about 1/4 there tho
mod6: then i can start over i guess.
mod6: tomorrow i'm going to create a new gentoo AMI with the stage3 from 20150610
asciilifeform: mod6: thus far i'm stumped. will probably have to replicate your entire setup to get to the bottom of this (assuming you haven't yet)
asciilifeform: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions << lulzy. but for some reason author did not consider the possibility that isps snort downstream from known tor exits
mod6: and I can confirm that the ebuild has DOPIC=y in it's default .config: http://dpaste.com/1GB0GFK.txt
mod6: this is what the help screen says for this option ^^
mod6: in the menuconfig, this is selected by default:
mod6: although one thing in there allows for usage of arc4random (a note for later maybe) but i left it unselected.
mod6: oh and during a "manual" build, it pops up with a ncurses config screen, i just used the defaults.
asciilifeform: mod6: post the build log from 'doesn't compile' ?
mod6: if I add a simple patch file for the -fPIC to /etc/portage/patches/sys-lib/<patchfile> and then emerge uclibc, then it builds, but the outcome is the same of the bitcoind compilation
mod6: but then it doesn't compile.
mod6: it patches cleanly, and then I add -fPIC to the makefile as shown before.
mod6: well, so here's the deal. I can't get it to compile "by hand". meaning, that if i extract the 2 bzip'd files for uclibc: uClibc-0.9.33.2.tar.bz2 & uClibc-0.9.33.2-patches.tar.bz2 and then patch the former with the latter with something like this: for i in `ls ../patch/*.patch | sort` ; do patch -p1 < ../patch/$i ; done
mod6: i got the same error as before asciilifeform. maybe i screwed something up.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: yeah. not the best tool but seems like a less shitty effort to show version strings offered by things purporting to be bitcoin nodes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for some reason i don't see the total count...
trinque: mod6: equery tells you that, I think, and lots of other useful stuff
trinque: if not you could maybe start the build then kill it, then go there and hax
trinque: there's probably a flag to have it dump out the goods there, but not build
trinque: the build-stuff is in /var/tmp/portage
trinque: that's where the ebuilds are
mod6: trinque: you think what i'm looking for (at least the ebuilds for uclibc) are in here? /usr/portage/sys-libs/uclibc?
asciilifeform: ^ also re: the old 'real asic or not' threads
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thestringpuller: anti-chumpatron is the only term i can think of
thestringpuller: i guess it's more of a "vibe" kinda thing. the "doesn't fuck around staying focused" kinda vibe.
thestringpuller: well for instance she was talking about valentina tereshkova, and said something like, "She's petitioning putin to go to mars, cause the russians, they stay focused"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: been watching this dumb netflix show "Orange is the new black" the russian mobster woman says a lot of the same stuff you do.
asciilifeform: in cases like this, i build the old-fashioned way and only then screw with ebuilds
trinque: mod6: could patch the Makefile using that patches mechanism
asciilifeform: !up thestringpuller
mod6: yeah exact same message, but i don't see the -fPIC flag in there... maybe im not adding that in there correctly?
mod6: last i recall i did this, i got the exact same message...
mod6: i can add -fPIC in there quick and try again though
asciilifeform: what was the output ?
asciilifeform: speaking of uclibc here, rather than gcc
mod6: and ben didn't like the idea of using anything >4.8.4
mod6: well, i tried v4.9.2 and that didn't work either.
asciilifeform: didja try the 'recompile with -fPIC' thing ?
mod6: 4.5.4 failed to build just as the others did: http://dpaste.com/0P88CGV.txt
asciilifeform: ^ there.
assbot: Protecting Us From A 'Terrorist' Who Made Pure Silver Coins: The Bernard von NotHaus Case - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/1LsKgyG )
asciilifeform: or hm, there isn't a link.
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 23:47:40; pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173727 << the folks dragged into the star chamber thus far, afaik, are not 'the brightest bulbs'
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assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 22:27:30; ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment
asciilifeform: mats: the physical part of the process is the real bitch
asciilifeform: mats: there were experiments with standard cell libs & ocr. sadly i haven't any links handy
mats: asciilifeform: is there any useful automation for reversing from si?
pete_dushenski: williamdunne given the rebirth of the rebirth of scoopbot, we sorta figured as much ;)
pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ?
assbot: Wal-Mart, American bellwether, and the Confederate flag - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuCMd9 )
trinque: not that others shouldn't rebuild, but rather that there'll at least be a way to quickly stand up a new dev environment later, if ya want it
trinque: and then reuse those elsewhere
trinque: mod6: once there's a rubber-stamped set of packages, there's a way to create binary packages on gentoo
mod6: If this dones't help (i doubt it will), I'll need to make another AMI with a recent stage3 and try to shoehorn in this gcc patch I made.
mod6: looks like many of the much older < 4.3 ebuilds don't allow for hardened (unless I'm mistaken here). I'm gonna try 4.5.4.
ben_vulpes: but if you install it locally, it just quietly fails to run the tests
ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment
mod6: ok well... i guess that settles that then, i'll build 3.4.6 next.
mod6: there is an ebuild for gcc/uclibc/hardened version gcc-3.4.6-r2
mod6: if that doens't work, then truly will have to get everything in sync and shoe-horn our own patch while all the stage3 stuff is up to speed.
mod6: no such luck with gcc 4.9.2 -- gcc compiled fine, but ran into the same problem as with 4.8.4: http://dpaste.com/368J5K7.txt
ascii_field wonders if anybody's tried neutronograph of these things
mircea_popescu: sorta like the GACK
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: remember 'adventure construction set' and the later msdos 'adventure construction kit' ?
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pete_dushenski: now sales are through the roof for confederate flags.
pete_dushenski: "Walmart (WMT) will reportedly pull items displaying the Confederate flag, according to a report late Monday. CNNMoney cited the world's biggest retailer as saying it "never want(s) to offend anyone with the products that we offer." The move comes after a 21-year old assailant gunned down nine people at a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina."
trinque: punkman: nice, the kind of thing I'd expect on suckess.org
trinque: dunno if there's a futureware I think about more
trinque: side note, I don't hate the idea of interacting with something like IRC via simple file IO
lobbes: well, my issue thus far is that I'm running lobbesbot on a aws instance seperate from my edis bouncer instance, so the only way I can currently see privmsgs sent to it are by checking messages.log (however, this only returns up to the first 'space' in the string)
mircea_popescu: open them like they were a chan ?
trinque: lobbes: you gonna scoop the scoops?
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
trinque: bleh do I load the feeds plugin on mine again?
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 17:00:58; ascii_field: punkman: cray-I and many other machines of the period were built in precisely that way.
pete_dushenski: i guess i need to watch more because i review at least half the ones i see
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: scoopbot_revived was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <scoopbot_revived> Changing the BitBet resolution process. http://trilema.com/2015/changing-the-bitbet-resolution-process/
ben_vulpes: where is the scoop anyways
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
pete_dushenski: working on another re: treblinka
trinque: and shoop them somewhere else, if I'm real lucky
mircea_popescu: funny how the definition of "usable computer" now includes "blocks <10min"
ascii_field: trinque: then it isn't a computer
trinque: well... maybe all "it" does is talk to that which is doing the block verification
ascii_field: the observation is by no means original to me
ascii_field keeps coming back to the thought that if 'adult' computer were to exist, folks would snap it up even if it were something close to, e.g., pdp-11 in horsepower
mircea_popescu: haha. well... linux is a hobby, right ? those crazy kids enjoy derping wit h code. this is how to best support them
ascii_field: so apparently 'linux support' in modern scientific instrumentation means 'you can, maybe, write own driver in a week by studying pieces of the broken turd we published five hw revisions ago'
mircea_popescu: these idiots i swear. "o noes, a bunch of jokers put in a quarter of a cent on a bunch of txn, because they figure it's cheap publicity. everyone willing to pay more than 0.01% of what bank transfers cost is unaffected"
ben_vulpes: i'll brb - gotta submit something to the Crap Store
mircea_popescu: punkman do they have a "how not to care" guide now on github ?!
assbot: What the CoinWallet.eu tx-flood stress-test means for you and how to deal with it ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jh41ZQ )
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 13:21:19; kakobrekla: >Seal the Deal < lold
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173510 <<< this is mine.. should be good to go provided i resubmit with resolves yes on either on either intent or confirmation yeah?
mod6: so i'm building gcc 4.9.2 on gentoo with uclibc & hardened (PIE). if it builds ok, then I'll give building v0.5.3.1-RELEASE a try - maybe this version won't have the same issue...
ben_vulpes: trinque: after i rebooted using "addnode" instead of "connect" directives, the thing has 7 connections and is happily munching block
funkenstein_: trinque, lol i wonder what whoever made the poster was trying to tell us.. with the choice of uncle sam
trinque: funkenstein_: literally anyone off the street
mod6: the Gentoo patches for gcc 4.8.4 changed during this interval from v1.5 to v1.6. Nothing special here. Wonder if there are this many changes to old ebuilds all the time?
mod6: So this is interesting: I was able to use my gcc patch successfully against my AWS instance which has an AMI that utilizes a stage3-uclibc-hardened from 20150510. And meanwhile, trinque was helping me test to ensure I'm not doing something totally retarded, and on his side he was using the Physical hardware steps where it says to pull the latest (which should be 20150610) stage3-uclibc-hardened.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: iirc it still collects seeds so it can spit them back if asked for some
ascii_field: and yes, a 'connect' node lives - and dies - by the other end
ben_vulpes: Trusty Thermonuke stalled for lack of seeds at block 182383 last night
kakobrekla: >Seal the Deal < lold
kakobrekla: The page you want to link doesn't comply to the standards for linking.
mircea_popescu: maybe they give him a diesel engine.
asciilifeform: at ever more negative interest rates, and you will have to go on lowering them, because if you don't I might cut down on my gambling and crash the financial system again. If you agree to these terms, then you might as well also give away your wallet and your car keys—just to see what happens.'
asciilifeform: 'The rate would like to go negative, but it can't. Because, you know, that's the kind of debt even I wouldn't turn down (by the way, I don't have any debt). It's the kind of debt where you give me your money, and then you keep paying me periodically to hold on to it, or spend it, or gamble it away—that's none of your business—until forever, because I have no intention of ever paying you back; I'll just keep rolling it over
assbot: ClubOrlov: Pop goes the Bubble ... ( http://bit.ly/1eFEi0d )
fluffypony: Thanks for the donation. The page you want to link doesn't comply to the standards for linking on blender.org. Please give a link to a page with your personal info (contact info) or that of your company.
fluffypony: let me email them the link, gimme a sec
mircea_popescu: cool. what's the damage and send addy.
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mircea_popescu: this is an up to date historical (2011) copy of the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: most likely the former.
cazalla: so when you say guessed the credentials, has the person simply guessed the password or had a hash of it and cracked that?
mircea_popescu: well, i deleted > 50k messages from queue, the email in question, and hopefully gmail, yahoo and everyone else will at some point forget the fact that i spammed them to shit for the first time in my life.
mircea_popescu: yeah it's not a php thing, seems 100% certain it simply guessed the credentials for that acct, used them for pop3
cazalla: nor do i have a passwords.txt sitting on the desktop
mircea_popescu: apparently they guessed your pw.
mircea_popescu: Authentication:dovecot_login
cazalla: isn't this just a case of someone (likely guy who ddos joiners here) sending out spam from another server but spoofing return address so qntra email gets hammered with delivery fail spam?
cazalla: you must because you gpg'd the new one to me when servers went down after the dmca bullshits with trilema
ag3nt_zer0: I should probably just keep digging, but in reading the logs dated late 2013 I see concerns raised that another bubble is fine as long as it doesn't go to 1k... and this was not too long after people were getting warnings that btc wasn't worth more than $130... why was it bad for it to go to 1k or past, and given all this craziness, how do I deduce what would be a current fair price to make a relatively wise investment? I
cazalla: to the best of my knowledge i've not leaked the password
pete_dushenski: i'm sure he'd appreciate it, if for no other reason than as a reminder than the usistan isn't alone in sucking.
pete_dushenski: you're like america jr. jr. the third !
cazalla: ya know they include that in real estate ads here now.. "close to schools, transport, costco"
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> ben_vulpes: does the node have to be synced already to join the partay << no.
assbot: Stalking Black Swans In Canberra: The City Of Plans | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqJVg1 )
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:11:09; Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:22:02; mircea_popescu: and THAT is where taleb engages traditionalism - where it matters. nobody is still left at the wheel who can talk back, so nobody does, all that's left is a cargo cult of the dead st. thomas, trudging along.
pete_dushenski: and burke, to my reading, is no fan of the common man and an advocate of monarchy.
pete_dushenski: taleb's too much a protector of the people to see them as the source of all evil.
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:10:59; mircea_popescu: aha. no authors specifically, because he does not specifically understand that he's battling westerners that have joined the choir invisible centuries ago.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173219 << quite so. taleb blames 'the bankers' and 'the revolving door between federal politics and megacorp industry' while failing to take his accusations to their next logical step : popular democracy.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: does the node have to be synced already to join the partay ? i have a 0.7.2 at 222'868
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 02:00:13; asciilifeform: 'the chocolate ration has increased from 100 to 50g...'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173112 << lol. like the derps at the city here who 'improved asphalt techmologee' by making is less durable.
pete_dushenski: there's a syncing party ?
ben_vulpes: it's just another altcoin at this point
ben_vulpes: furthermore it's diverged significantly in behavior from 'mainnet'
mircea_popescu: im evidently not set up to support teh esteemed efforts of the republic over here. working on it.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000101.html << well since this thermonuked node refuses to attach to any others, i may as well roll this patch in
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if i'd like to bootstrap a thermonuke off your previously mentioned node, do i need whitelisting?
Vexual: thestringpuller: you oughta burn more than 3k
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asciilifeform hoses off chopping block, washing off blood, piss, feathers, from today's gavins
mod6: as soon as I can, i'll be sure to patch everything in the order specified and kick off a full regression cycle.
asciilifeform: (this does not excuse other folks from test!)
mod6: i've read the patches and ben's review on his blog. i'll be writing up a summary of my own in the SoBA at the end of the month.
asciilifeform: i would like to ask the fine gentlemen to read this and the antecedents (ben_vulpes has a pretty good review on his www)
asciilifeform: unless someone notices serious problems, this is what will be built (using deterministic build process) and fielded on the first public node
mod6: ah and it bumps the version too
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:11:09; Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...
asciilifeform: ^ precisely what is printed on the box. but all plz read
mod6: ok weird. same exact error as last time after complete nuke. tomorrow i'll nuke again and see if gcc will compile without the patch.
asciilifeform notices that certain nodes in the wild... won't return the genesis block!!
trinque: bahaha who the fuck adopts "Oblivion" but keeps "Brian"
mircea_popescu: the why is the controlling aspect, not the what.
ag3nt_zer0: ok. but I am under the impression that at the core of traditionalism are simply metaphysical absolutes... for instance, "the greater cannot proceed from the lesser" - there is one absolute source, be it languaged in a number of ways, etc...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1173066 << check em out, the original windows wizards. to think idiots of all stripes today still try to "be zatko"
mircea_popescu: and THAT is where taleb engages traditionalism - where it matters. nobody is still left at the wheel who can talk back, so nobody does, all that's left is a cargo cult of the dead st. thomas, trudging along.
mircea_popescu: in any case, THAT is traditionalism for you. between "nobody went out of business buying ibm" and "our gauss copulae indicate the future will be rosy", crash after crash and disaster after disaster.
mircea_popescu: mkay. there is this psychogenically-driven assumption in financial circles that the past may be used to evaluate future risk. this is incredibly stupid and absolutely perennial (the only thing perennial in human cultural history is stupidity, by the way - smart stuff has no root)
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you familiar with the fantabulous history of the gauss copula ?
Hasimir: so much for that theory ....
Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...
mircea_popescu: aha. no authors specifically, because he does not specifically understand that he's battling westerners that have joined the choir invisible centuries ago.
ag3nt_zer0: no, but due to reading something you wrote I have started the black swan
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: thanks for the response... I am confused about this: "and the fundamentally flawed proposition that for this reason, it is more important to interpret phenomena through history than through any other lens." -is this how traditionalist discourse treat phenomena? exclusively historically? and also: you say taleb can provide a damaging critique of traditionalism? May I kindly ask, whose? What authors/thinkers

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