pete_dushenski: might as well take advantage of the extra eyeballs
pete_dushenski: i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4
pete_dushenski: which is entirely my own thing to figure out, the instructions are clear
pete_dushenski: mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ?
mod6: here's the error along with the rest of the compilation of the source files from ~30 minutes ago: http://dpaste.com/2CT2N23.txt
mod6: im getting to the point of 'out of my depth'
mircea_popescu: my mind boggles that indeed source there present the compile should fail. i mean... copy / paste it in your own project for chryssakes, if ti comes to it, wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: have you ever tried putting the actual uclibc source in there and trying a full bore static ?
mircea_popescu: poor guy, my heart goes out. "does this work ? " "well it works in the sense it takes the shit out of the soup. puss is sitll there."
mod6: well they work in the context that these files compile without /those/ specific problems (i.e. namespace problems with boost), but we still have the gcc/uclibc issue.
asciilifeform: these work now ?
mod6: do you want me to add in the { Gentoo Sanity } patches as well?
asciilifeform: that's the version that i'm considering for public seed box, and it would be helpful to folks reviewing
mircea_popescu: in other news, it looks like (fingers crossed) might have seed up today.
asciilifeform: (thermonukes, etc.)
asciilifeform: mod6: if you have time, consider putting up a second copy of this, but loaded with the 'bleeding' version
asciilifeform: esp. in comparison with the turdmeisters' copy, which is so bloated it makes my browser cry
mod6: asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html
asciilifeform: it will be interesting to see when the linked page vanishes.
mircea_popescu: it should be spilled milk. why should they be able to "change" ?
asciilifeform: just pointing out that the turtle is not by pure accident the symbol of that university, and life moves very slowly there.
asciilifeform: it is SOP for course www to remain unchanged until new syllabus is written (if and when the course is read again)
asciilifeform: re: the umd wankatron: i will add a potentially interesting detail:
asciilifeform: mod6: i must confess that i never once actually used 'doxygen' for anything. but saw the page linked yesterday, and it (at least if viewed in graphical www browser) does some nifty things, like unraveling class inheritances
asciilifeform: yezhov's was a complicated matter. in the sense that he wasn't 100% 'pet', showed signs of being willing and able to bite stalin. so had to go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if memory serves, rarely has there been a more effectual bureaucrat than yezhov
mircea_popescu: we're not at war with the united states government. we're at war with the people making it up. governments don't exist, people do.
asciilifeform: why would prof. lysenko here get desperate unless the cheques start bouncing ?
mircea_popescu: for all their pretense, they're people. they cry, they hurt, they get hungry and desperate.
mircea_popescu: this is a fact. it's to be used, to hurt THE PEOPLE involved.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups.
mircea_popescu: and the rest of the "rogue gallery" will be confronted with the unpleasant dilemma that they're in the trenches, and either continue or get shot or else withdraw and get shot.
mircea_popescu: one wallace loh is going to be confronted with the particularly unpleasant dilemma of either saying "yeah mp was right, they were usg all along" or else fucking up an assistant.
mircea_popescu: looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world.
mircea_popescu: you're saying this as if their 0.5.4 has any bearing on anything.
asciilifeform: the figure of lizardhitler in this affair was never disguised in earnest. he simply wore the traditional kabuki mask, pro forma
pete_dushenski: "and c) we've progressed so far since then, my little dearest, these words on this page from this kant feller are barely worth the paper they're written on other than for being so adorably archaic"
asciilifeform: the thing's a rogue's gallery of buterin, the 'ripple' folks, a 'law prof' devoted to digging up precedent for 'regulating cryptocurrency', etc.
assbot: On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RD0oMJ )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114627 << what line did they cross? if you read the guest speaker list linked a few lines back, it becomes clear that they are doing the will of His Reptilian Majesty
mircea_popescu: "o, parents should tell their kids all about how a) they're smarter than kant and b) really, it was god not this evolution bs,"
assbot: The shameful business model of Wilder Publications - Author Patrice Sarath ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCZIqI )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177386 << lol apparently these 'wilder publications' have a bit of a reputation for scamming, see: http://www.patricesarath.com/observations/the-shameful-business-model-of-wilder-publications/
assbot: You rated user lobbes on 06-Feb-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Well... he did teach himself how to view a directory....
decimation: It's depressing that these people are 'paid to think' and are engaging with bitcoin at the level of the average new york times commenter
decimation: imagine dijsktra giving a talk on the various ways in which bitcoin code is horrifying
asciilifeform: why would a fly think that meat in the sun 'needs' anything other than some fly eggs ?
decimation: that doesn't mean they know anything about bitcoin
asciilifeform: these are educated pseudoscientists, not 'tardstalk' denizens
decimation: like, why are none of you actually reading the bitcoin code
decimation: the conference would have been about telling uncomfortable truths
decimation: asciilifeform: of course, if they invited someone who actually knew about bitcoin
asciilifeform: with shame i admit that i not only took degree there, but was employed for a spell under the same roof ('umiacs') with these mega-heroes.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell thestringpuller hope you like michael jackson http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/25/this-is-it/
pete_dushenski: 'masters thesis'
asciilifeform: i bet the ee labs are already providing gratis fab & debug service for those
pete_dushenski: or 21 and their comcastboxen
assbot: On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCXh7u )
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114626
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's always next semester.
decimation: "She is also an advisor to Ripple, one of the most popular cryptocurrencies (currently second to Bitcoin in total cap). "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu probably read this speaker list, and understands why the dean of umd will not call the two 'heroes' to the carpet.
asciilifeform: 'Feb 16: 10:30am AVW 4172 !! Guest Lecture by Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum.' << can't believe i missed this lulzfest that happened half hour's walk from my house.
PeterL: Anybody seen the movie "Horrible bosses 2"? It made me smile when it referenced bitcoin.
assbot: Logged on 24-06-2015 02:49:18; asciilifeform: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions << lulzy. but for some reason author did not consider the possibility that isps snort downstream from known tor exits
jurov: Kusturica believes, “RT will ever more demystify the American Dream and in primetime will reveal the truth hidden for decades from the eyes and hearts of average Americans.”
scoopbot_revived: On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/
assbot: On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FEsdNW )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/ <<< if anyone else feels inclined to voice their concerns re the fraud being perpetuated against umd, please do so, either towards the people there listed or anyone else you think appropriate.
BingoBoingo: At this point I'm conviced the only reason the fat hate movement is being suppressed is because USG has officially adopted Obesity as a social control mechanism.
HeySteve: high fructose corn syrup is the culprit, so I've heard
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy << I'd be more concerned with other medical followup. I looks like it still has active cullulitis infection on its skin after surgical intervention to remove areas of active necrosis.
cazalla: i still don't grasp how anyone gets that big, really hope it is genetics as they claim
mircea_popescu: why the bra ?
HeySteve: the creature's human-suit is melting
cazalla: 10k btc but you gotta lick the pussy
HeySteve: not sure why he needs the mantrap in the 1st place... but using cellphone in the bedroom is very bad form
HeySteve: still the best site on the internet: http://web.archive.org/web/20120209145349/http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/
mircea_popescu: and in the nightly scare : https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg
BingoBoingo: Water weight makes it seem like the doctor's fault for not giving them enough HCTZ and Lasix to piss out their planthood.
BingoBoingo: Because camel humps are fat. The wikipedoium can tell redditors that.
BingoBoingo: It's the new "Fuck You Imma Dragon"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Saw it in the reddit tardmines trying to mine lulz. Creator yet unidentified. Apparently reddit OP jacked it from elsewhere to be identified
BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg
BingoBoingo: Ouch, another german
mircea_popescu: and honestly, it's dubious whether feds can actually afford going to battle with a well organised us based clan.
mircea_popescu: nah, feds would never give money, they'd just move in.
mats: i would expect these organizations to have been in the game long enough to know to avoid inviting federal bureaucrats to join in the fun
mats: 01:05:06 <@assbot> » Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops
scoopbot_revived: BitFury and private property in the land of the free. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/
punkman: "Terminator was really sent back by John Connor because he could not longer stand reading the code he wrote when he was younger"
mircea_popescu: dunno. they seem light and overall excellent.
cazalla: such fancy weapons but i'd rather dual machete with 50% crit bonus on offhand
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Wing_Chun_Hybrid_Blade_Style_Butterfly_Swords.JPG << gotta say they're pretty gorgeous
BingoBoingo: It sounds like there is a non-zero chance of that.
mircea_popescu: "As a man, my arsenal is heavier in my room. In my bed is a bowie knife, on the night stand a dagger, by the dresser a late medieval arming sword, at my desk a pair of butterfly swords, by my foot locker a Viking sword and a jobolo wood baton, and by the door to my room a hickory walking stick, a razor sharp daito [ninja sword] and a 14 inch meat hook. I want to emerge from my room with a weapon in each hand, as such a
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 05:17:33; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177210 <<< would shooting up a crack den even make the news?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking. << And to be fair Roof kid got a State Senator
mircea_popescu: motherfucker.Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller ftr.
mircea_popescu: 20% Ethereum project
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 03:53:05; mats: will put in the enemy's eye
mircea_popescu: always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert
mircea_popescu: also in the same news dollop, "wot allows mapping the entire visible relationship map". derp.
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 03:17:58; punkman: "AddressProbe is able to map the entire connectable Bitcoin network within minutes" interesting
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177090 << "provided the entire 'connectable' network is defined as 'that which will allow us to probe'. " splendid wankery.
mircea_popescu: folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177044 << fucktard thinks that something OTHER THAN THE PESO is the world's least stable currency.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177026 << ongoing problem, with all the "we made our own coin out of bitcoin and sed/awk"
assbot: » Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7lqX0 )
punkman: http://www.infowars.com/black-guerrilla-family-the-bloods-and-the-crips-plan-to-take-out-baltimore-cops/
mircea_popescu: it wasn't out of the blue.
mircea_popescu: o hey, check the guy out
mircea_popescu: "The Black Guerilla Family was running at least one Maryland Corrections facility, and even had military operatives in Afghanistan bringing home dope. Terrence White, the incarcerated Commander of the gang, impregnated four corrections officers!"
BingoBoingo: Well it is a dilemma. At range you want a rifle, and otherwise you jsut don't want to get boned
mats: and in the general case i would prefer a balanced knife over a handgun
BingoBoingo: Medical services of course though always take the largest portion of the cadaver and bill for their attempts at resurrection
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed << In this area they don't hose. Property owner must contract "crime scene cleaner"
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Because your most dangerous native fauna is the roos
cazalla: BingoBoingo, illegal in my country therefore illegal in yours (works for US so why not aus?)
asciilifeform: cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed
BingoBoingo: cazalla: On the contrary. Not illegal at all here.
cazalla: you guys and your illegal weapons.. call the police if ya meet with trouble
mats: putting more rounds downrange than other skilled shooter
BingoBoingo: mats: What really is the appeal of "hip firing"? is that for target too close for bayonet?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: captive bolt is for the bunker to pass around after the last selfish prick takes own goal
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That break action .223 pistol isn't even a ladies gun. Lacks the aesthetics for that.
asciilifeform: something like the 'captive bolt' thing used in slaughterhouses would also work
BingoBoingo: For last bullet one needs barrel that goes back of the mouth and then up to destroy brainstem. Wider buller likely more forgiving. perhaps .12 gauge deer slug from metal "flare" gun would be ideal if "guide rod" was attached to contact right part of the soft palate
asciilifeform: back to the little pistol - i often wonder what is the shortest barrel that's still good for 'last round you save for yourself'
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << '20% Ethereum project'
BingoBoingo: But the .223 abomination thing isn't even competitionable.
mats: will put in the enemy's eye
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BingoBoingo: Well feel free to stop by. Are you registered with assbot to self voice when you get the itch?
BingoBoingo: We also try to impress the passerbys
asciilifeform: it is not clear that there were ever 6000 pogos..
punkman: "AddressProbe is able to map the entire connectable Bitcoin network within minutes" interesting
decimation: on the surface, it would seem logical to run 6000 threads in parallel
asciilifeform: was looking for precisely the code
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, jurov: anyone try 'doxygen' proggy for therealbitcoin source ?
decimation: asciilifeform: the 'alert' thing is hilarious
BingoBoingo: Oh, look at the pussy storm. All it did was knock out mains power. Didn't even put a branch through the roof like a real storm.
punkman: http://www.miningpool.co.uk/erik-voorhees-on-ben-lawskys-bitcoin-firm-its-the-very-definition-of-crony-capitalism/
punkman: bunch of them solved by existing snips
asciilifeform: not certain if it covers the earlier link entirely
asciilifeform: it will be interesting to set the 'misbehaviour' triggers for the orphans crud to max once we have a respectably-complete network of therealbitcoin nodes.
punkman: in the meantime, we have to dodge monkey projectiles
asciilifeform: there will be a place where men 'speak like men,' and another, very different place, where monkeys are free to throw own shit at one another all day long.
asciilifeform: ultimately, the matter will be settled using the algo described earlier today by mircea_popescu:
williamdunne: Although obviously the outliers will be very un-sane
williamdunne: Alcoholics pulling up the average
cazalla: decimation, we drink so much they run stupid commercials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiXvAo6o0HY
assbot: List of countries by alcohol consumption per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1fHDGaD )
decimation: also I think the english are bigger drunkards generally
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=strewth | strewth. An Australian, or "Aussie", exclaimation, similar to the somewhat more popular "Crikey!" Strewth, that was a hard day, toss me a Fosters mate! by Avatar ...
decimation: asciilifeform: http://allanmcrae.com/2015/06/the-case-of-gcc-5-1-and-the-two-c-abis/ < c++/gcc dumbfuckery
BingoBoingo: Interesting textures on the cloud bottoms though.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Indeed, first raindrops fell. Not much yet other than a constant rumbling of distant thunder and occasional flashes of closer lighning.
decimation: BingoBoingo: looks like a big storm rolling down the mississippi
asciilifeform: decimation: the old 32-bit id (bottom of modulus) you can generate as many as you like right now..
decimation: asciilifeform: " It's certainly possible that some APT has developed the capability to generate keys with colliding 8-byte key IDs on demand.
assbot: Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Civil Defense Film - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvnbF1 )
BingoBoingo: Oh great the Storm/AirRaid sirens are firing
assbot: Issue 7241 - go - /openpgp/armor: armored output differs from gpg or sks armored output - The Go Programming Language - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvmVpz )
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 23:02:23; mircea_popescu: "lone wolf terrorists" have a pretty decent claim to getting an ex-usg civil servant as chattel slave once the thing's done.
cazalla: mmm yup, the doco is pretty much an advertisement for norton "As a leader in storytelling for Symantec's global brands, my main goal is to produce proactive, intelligent content that speaks to and engages an audience, and showcases the value of the company's exceptional brilliance in cyber security innovation." Solange Deschatres
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 22:11:13; mircea_popescu: the us dept of derp is short on money and understaffed, so it figures hey, what's this shikrashka thing alf keeps mentioning ?
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 22:54:33; mircea_popescu: and in other news, all's there but the vending machine. http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qh7fKyZW1qgvnq9o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: anyway, doing violence to the poorly secured chumpnet is a rite of passage for most of the not-dumb youth of the third world, you must appreciate. in luxor, a tiny town on the valley of the nile, the intellectual elite of boyhood gathered around two beat up dexktops and an acoustic modem trying the same thing.
assbot: In Search of The Most Dangerous Town On the Internet [Official Documentary] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GARKs5 )
cazalla: anyway, full doco if anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_XI4MM6QI (watching but i expect this to be similar to real estate seminar where norton will hit me up to buy some anti-virus shit at the end of the film)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you recall the story of one guccifer, uneployed cab driver fucking around in internet cafes ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, it's a rural townlet on par with say dublin, ohio.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I thought you were going to say they all made fortunes and move to St. Kitts
mircea_popescu: cazalla nonsense. there was a high concentration of kids fucking up windows boxen in that town, a decade ago.
assbot: In Search of The Most Dangerous Town on the Internet [Official Trailer] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hit7qD )
mircea_popescu: how did the theory go, "bureaucrats are genetically inferior and morally stunted, and so the best thing for their sake is having them live out their lives as slaves for actual humans"
mircea_popescu: "lone wolf terrorists" have a pretty decent claim to getting an ex-usg civil servant as chattel slave once the thing's done.
decimation: "lone wolf terrorists" are just another lame excuse for "keep funding us or else"
mircea_popescu: and in other news, all's there but the vending machine. http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qh7fKyZW1qgvnq9o1_1280.jpg
williamdunne: kakobrekla: And the $25,000
mircea_popescu: the us dept of derp is short on money and understaffed, so it figures hey, what's this shikrashka thing alf keeps mentioning ?
asciilifeform: and the arse hymen.
kakobrekla: dont forget the 900bux
asciilifeform: 'This effort didn't go very far at first, because Monsanto's marketing department reported that the only color customers wanted was red. Customers used red displays for calculators, so their only concern was getting cheaper LEDs. Marketing never considered other LED applications. Its conclusion that red was the only color wanted may have stemmed from asking the wrong question or asking the wrong people.'
asciilifeform: among the first!
asciilifeform: taken with the usual grain of strychnine with which one eats american academe, this is applicable
asciilifeform: in particular, how they will decide that what they cannot see, for whatever reason, isn't there
asciilifeform: i remember a course i had to do at uni, where we were shown various results re: the misconceptions about mechanics common among small children.
asciilifeform: some of these are even spiffier than the idiot numbers game because i don't have to pay for the ticket!11
asciilifeform: the do-i-get-hit-by-asteroid lottery, etc
asciilifeform: as opposed to several, including the do-i-cash-this-ticket-in-time one
asciilifeform: i was never able to understand why these folks thought they were only playing in one lottery
asciilifeform: iirc there is some lawsuit in usa every day re: one thing or another to do with lottery tickets allegedly misappropriated, stolen, 'borrowed', etc
asciilifeform: the story of the 'lottery ticket lost in the wash' is cross cultural to schmucks of every country
mircea_popescu: there's more twu wuv crushed under the trainwheels of normal life than under anything else.
mircea_popescu: simple people miss their funerals because some workshop boss didn't let them off. way the world works.
mircea_popescu: that saturday morning the thing collapsed.
mircea_popescu: so he asked his workshop boss to let him go to THE STATIUM
trinque: than the alternative
trinque: asciilifeform: at least among my meatwot the building being empty played much better
asciilifeform: no i meant the waiting-until-place-is-empty part
mircea_popescu: see the french.
mircea_popescu: revolutionaries are generally like that in their writing.
mircea_popescu: what, this is an item accidentally shaped like a tree that coincidentally drops plantains to the ground, but not for this reason a plantain tree ?
mod6: so i create gentoo via stage3 whole process in an instance, then have to create snapshot & make image from snapshot. deploy new instance from image.
mircea_popescu: he actually says the words.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the proposition that joe stack is not revolutionary seems alike the proposition that you're innocent of math.
assbot: Attack on Dallas PD Headquarters: Another Drop in Bucket of Frustrated Americans | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkNsKW )
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/attack-on-dallas-pd-headquarters-another-drop-in-bucket-of-frustrated-americans/ << liek. but yes, i'm sure tomorrow's also.
asciilifeform: where can i see the unreported names.
mircea_popescu: look at the unreported names.