awokestillY2K: i only eat the cheese, but still
punkman: well not hard to hide 10 bills, but I'm sure there'll be some jackpots
awokestillY2K: meanwhile errone with a shed heres syntheticing diamonds
awokestillY2K: punkman might not care but erry useless cunt on the floor wants out
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awokestillY2K: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/photos-the-2015-argyle-pink-diamond-tender-2015-6 shes in fashion
awokestillY2K: argyles autioning the reddest stone ever
awokestillY2K: we're tight with the imf
awokestillY2K: look on the bright side, youll prolly get cool aussie polymer notes u can swim wit
punkman: *the
punkman: before then announcement that is
punkman: also acquaintances told to come back monday when they tried to take out cash yesterday
awokestillY2K: im orf to bali to buy cocaine from a north african and install the latest russian adobe update]
cazalla: check the arms heh
awokestillY2K: theres ;;lasers now
cazalla: half these women have shaving rash mind you, guess noone told em about wax
awokestillY2K: does anyone not read ass these days?
cazalla: how self absorbed can one be to make a coming out video where you don't really come out to your parents but just send them a link to a video
awokestillY2K: man i love rainbows as much as the next guy, but i like pussy
cazalla: aww shit mate gotta put the bins out
awokestillY2K: whats the purple bin for?
cazalla: ask them nicely to leave?
awokestillY2K: fuck that, gotta pull the cunts out, hendra
awokestillY2K: i got stuck to the seat
awokestillY2K: not bothered
awokestillY2K: nevermind ill release the breeders
awokestillY2K: check the xits for entry
cazalla: independents bit too far for me to bother
cazalla: fuck paying $25 to sit through 45m of commercials.. the fucking hide
awokestillY2K: poor cunt spent half the movie with forks for teeth
awokestillY2K: me neither
cazalla: nah, have not been to the cinemas in years
cazalla: more crazies doing their thing is how
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cazalla: awokestillY2K, ya know this will be the hot topic the aus gov uses at the next election to pass the baton
cazalla: not that i really give a fuck what a bunch of gender bender trans fluid unicorns do, just the fucking posturing "i'm sooo progressive look at moi, look at moi, look at moooi"
cazalla: bingo_bar ya should be drinking and chatting to the honeys not irc nerds
scoopbot_revived: The actual state of the Bitcoin network http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/
Chicago: Hey thanks, Whats the topic this hour?
decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games
asciilifeform: (sega actually made a pc! with built-in 'genesis' ! and it even shared memory with the pc, somehow. unknown outside of jp)
asciilifeform: they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around
asciilifeform: when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console
asciilifeform: to me, msdos was ~the~ games platform
asciilifeform: it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!'
decimation: although the menu scroll became annoying
decimation: asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo?
decimation: yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes'
asciilifeform: esp. re: the 'immortality' business
asciilifeform: decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid
decimation: heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber
decimation: whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury
decimation: And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death.
decimation: And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?
decimation: ?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."
decimation: he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/
mircea_popescu: s/ever/either/
mircea_popescu: not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature.
mircea_popescu: what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ?
mircea_popescu: he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them.
mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets.
mircea_popescu: the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods.
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/serialize.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtXN8 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/serialize_8h_source.html#l00044
mircea_popescu: (server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?)
asciilifeform: did nobody ~read~ the src!
asciilifeform: 1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ?
decimation: it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate
asciilifeform: immediately stupid in the same way keybase is
decimation: other than "why?"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even.
asciilifeform: decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in
decimation: asciilifeform: you should audit the class
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg
asciilifeform: under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.'
asciilifeform: in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit.
asciilifeform: almost certain i've seen the effect.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e
mircea_popescu: they're selling two gallon potable extract
decimation: but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products
mircea_popescu: (/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches)
mircea_popescu: they sell aloe vera for everytying
mircea_popescu: no, thereeis scam
mats: it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work
jurov: the PGP monkeys just did not foresaw any need to put into signature hash of signed document alone
mod6: oh, is that per the RFC you pastd?
jurov: mod6 they append date and whatnot to data prior to hashing anyway
mod6: i can't figure out how to get the hash out either, the best i've seen is that "digest algo 10, best of digest 23 49" gives you 2 bytes.
jurov: ^ so the sig is useless for out purposes
jurov: The concatenation of the data to be signed, the signature type, *and creation time* ... is hashed.
cazalla: can't help but think of this scene when somebody asks what the fuck type of person are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBP522x0xI
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 22:04:45; ielo: mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you?
trinque: "presentation types" << o hey look another thing I built shittily in der database
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: mats, since the python one is written to be "inspired by C pgpdump", it's very likely it does not, too
trinque: that iirc might've caused problems with *other* characters (though I don't recall which) so someone ping me if they have trouble with that in the future.
trinque: I "fixed" that by telling python-gnupg to use utf-8 internally as per their docs
mod6: ah, well, if you hvae a solid inet connection you can always try scp as a last resort if you have a shell on the target environment too.
mod6: ~ how big is the file?
mats: jurov: and this behavior is the same across c pgpdump and python port?
jurov: maybe there's some dummy PHP script on server that chokes when hit 2G mem limit
jurov: yes, apparently they balked at decnsing "pkcs1" stuff
felipelalli: trinque: if I add the option --charset=utf-8 when signing, helps something?
jurov: mats, ascii_field pursuant to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880#section-5.2.2 ,the pgpdump lib stops parsing right on the "Two-octet field holding left 16 bits of signed hash value" and does not go further to decode the signature
mircea_popescu: atm i suspect it's doing something windows-retarded like "load whole file in memory, split it as a php array, write the result through type conversion"
trinque: felipelalli: ascii was good enough for the lord and it's good enough for me!
felipelalli: the bod would cry with a Japanese doc!! :D
ascii_field: yeah at some point ~new~ phuctor will run over all the weirdos with non-latinate chars in namestring of key
mats: er, trinque is the maintainer
ascii_field: vaguely recall the drm thing
mats: the coward fled already, felipelalli
ascii_field: iirc 'ethereum' never shipped gadget
mircea_popescu: anyway, ascii_field, apparently the dean is asking some questions eh ?
mircea_popescu: i guess im back to slicing archives. ima call them .rar too, in memory of the old days
mircea_popescu: what the fucking hell already nothing works!
ielo: mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you?
mircea_popescu: ielo would this be the conference where tyhat fucktard nefario told everyone about how mpex is going to be going to jale two weeks before going to jale ?
mircea_popescu: maybe if your friends would stop scamming / being retarded pieces of shit i wouldn't have to care about their otherwise meaningless existences ?
jurov: mats the data structure i get does include "hash_algorithm" but ntohing resembling actual hash
trinque: if only we had the nordic system, somebody would help poor mircea_popescu
ascii_field: anybody got a vivisection table open for the monkey ?
mats: ielo: which people? name them.
jurov: anyway, looks pgpdump monkeys never bothered to pull actual hash out :/
ielo: mircea_popescu, i'm just sick of your shit you've independently claimed like 3 people i know are scammers and your life is literally gossiping on the internet
mircea_popescu: me either, before now.
mircea_popescu: bah. from the wunderbar world of undocumented linux gotchas : if you're transferring a file over 2gb, either curl or wget will go into "download one burst, rest for 30 seconds" mode and that's that.
felipelalli: the bot is in a bad mood today.
ascii_field: the py one comes with example code iirc
mod6: it's the one you linked above though 'H?
ascii_field: (yes, there are two proggies by same name)
jurov: app-crypt/pgpdump indeed does not show the hash (and it's not python but binary)
trinque: it's not the site though, I'm allowing any
mod6: ascii_field: hey, i'm having a tough time getting the hash itself out of a sig file of mine with that python version of pgpdump. which flag should i be using; i've tried 'em all
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 20:43:32; trinque: I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178148 << will add to this. in every single field i dive into, i find these 'lisps' - i.e., the ~actual~ state-of-the-art buried under piles of shit strategically crapped out by one, two, more generations of mediocrities
mircea_popescu: ED5CDE14 that's the right key...
jurov: you could tell earlier there's a way to get hash from signature
jurov: there is lubrary for this?
ascii_field: notice that you don't even need the patch file for this
jurov: if not by ID, then people must meticulously keep adhering to original name
jurov: there must be a way to refer to original submission
mod6: so after review you just expect or perhaps exepect to just see a .sig file attached alone without the patch itself?
jurov: ascii_field: it was intended to allow other people to send singatures for patches ater they revviewed them
jurov: and user is unwilling to work with patch ID the system must somehow heuristically
ascii_field: why would these ever come apart ?
jurov: the problem is, when i receive detached sig later
ascii_field: that is the correct place for it
ascii_field: the checksum
ascii_field: mod6: it's in the sig!
mod6: anyway, i like the idea of a checksum for the patches. if we can somehow hvae that without it being in the name of the patch, that would be neat.
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 19:00:30; mircea_popescu: who was the other accidental windfall victim who actually WAS into bitcoin ?
mod6: i think the nomenclature is pretty straightforward. easy to use. you specify which base your coming off of, the patch name, and a number for any that are required to come before it.
jurov: well, where is the context what is "portatronic" ought to be?
ascii_field: jurov: also ought to remember, not all patches are meant as 'canonical' (that is, for eventual inclusion in the tree)
jurov: ok ascii_field not turd , but this leaves things to be desired, too: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html
mod6: this is supposed to outline how to name and number the patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html
jurov: they are not iunique already
ascii_field: using the given names.
ascii_field: in other lulz,
trinque: clearly he was a part of the shadowy cabal himself
trinque: can't find the actual quote; something about wanting to believe that there's some conspiracy in charge of the world because it's more comfortable than the reality
trinque: reminds me of feynman's thing about "nobody's at the wheel" or something like that
ascii_field: about other kinds - only delusion of reasoning.
ascii_field: about items which 'fit in head', there can - on rare occasion - be reasoning.
trinque: I'm not qualified to say, but it does look like yet another vast C monstrosity from the outside
ascii_field: because when you can't physically connect arbitrary flipflops in the machine to the screen, you're - blind.
ascii_field: (it being, having been written by the blind.)
trinque: everything remotely like this is either garbage worse than excel or some shitty pile of JS (because that's what I want to do, edit my db over http)
trinque: so I can stop writing the same derpy app a thousand times
trinque: maybe click a foreign key and get the row it points to
ascii_field: to this day, afaik, i'm the only one who ever wanted this.
trinque: or do you just mean dynamically in the code?
trinque: it all sees the user as a derp that would never do such a thing
ascii_field: and at any rate, i barfed as soon as i discovered that you can't meaningfully compose qt widgets without diving back into the cpp shit pit
ascii_field: it demands to own the world
ascii_field: i actually had problems with serial ports when i did the robot thing
trinque: and that's what corrupts the intermediate-step approach, it seems?
ascii_field: (yes, works. but now you have 'guts' in the works, and breakage paths that don't cleanly break into lisp)
trinque: seems reasonable enought to resolve for the near term to just run sbcl apps on linux
ascii_field: i spent the last 5 or so years looking for an intermediate point between here and ic fab
trinque: yeah I begin to see why there's no real intermediate step here.
ascii_field: because the absolute worst thing that can happen is that this kind of monster ~walks~
trinque: denying the underlying system like systemd does
ascii_field: rather than electrical connection in programmable grid
trinque: everything expressed as the same kind of data structures
ascii_field: as in, want to put disk controller registers on the screen? go, do
trinque: ascii_field: I can as a novice see the foothills at least
trinque shudders to recall how the same thing looks elsewhere
ascii_field: trinque: now imagine if no part of the machine were exempt.
trinque: I'm on ch3 and I can already bind data to usable UI, selectively update the display, so on
ascii_field: at 'respectable' uni they make a show of not teaching as much of ^this as they could 'because this isn't trade school after all'
ascii_field: or have you contribute to 'ethereum' for course credit
ascii_field: trinque: lisp (and i specifically refer to the accumulated advancements which add up to commonlisp world, rather than the barf of that field's equivalent of 'glbse' - e.g., 'clojure', 'newlisp', other halfwit retardations) handily obsoletes most of what passes for 'problems in computer science' as taught
trinque: rather than being replaced with a bunch of consumer friendly skeuomorphic shitware
trinque: the clarity of purpose, simplicity, sheer elegance of this thing trumps every other environment I've built things in
trinque: I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this.
trinque decided to work through the mcclim tutorial today
ascii_field: the spice must flow. (tm) (r)
ascii_field: 'doxygen' doesn't appear to do the handy 'click this and see ~EVERYWHERE~ it appears' symbol concordance
ascii_field: (the vendor's explanation for why they failed was dpasted here a while ago, but will be reprinted in this month's broadcast.)
ascii_field: l0l re: the rebranding of a very ordinary plumber's borescope sold pretty much everywhere