(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, mebbe he gets to it first. he'd certainly do a better job.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i'm rich and can read and fuck and code on whatever pleases me all day i'm going to write MY OWN OS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: magit file notify doesn't work on os x.
(trilema) ben_vulpes can't cope with the constantly moving targets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] hm. turns out i don't actually understand what merged mining actually is. << welcome to my club of ignorance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <chetty> [] http://news.yahoo.com/argentine-prosecutor-accused-fernandez-iran-plot-found-dead-073033179.html << scawwy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mats> [] http://beforeitsnews.com/markets/2015/01/bill-clinton-and-underage-sex-slaves-this-could-be-the-end-for-hillarys-presidential-run-in-2016-2477774.html << since when did "whore" get replaced with "sex slave"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: do you not get the pizza reference?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: "pizza", "chump change" you pedantic nerd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not bad for running a bot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (or two centuries. pick your timeframe).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 0.001 btc is a pizza today, and a nuke sub in five decades
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: talk to the specwriter, but i believe the thing acts as a btc spigot so as to incentivize auditing of its behavior.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a feature, davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only 40?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: without reading any scrollback i agree with BB
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning, jihadis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform recalls once reading that 'their' is 'obsolete,' and that the truly progressive (tm) types have made up new pronouns, 'ze', 've', fuck knows what els << i hold that "their" when used for a single entity is a crucifying offense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54100 @ 0.00045252 = 24.4813 BTC [+] {2} << someone's scooping cheap mpoe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: industry gossip rag, whaddaya want
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <PeterL> [] could you make a version of monopoly which allows people to drop in after the game has started? << bitcoin monopoly?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes" << there has to be more to this story. << pointless degradation of network protocol to reduce utility of bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some "asset manager"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he's got an eclectic filter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ask barry yourself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you made it to Ritholtz today http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2015/01/sunday-reads-27/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ourobottering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, fuck yourselves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the requirement to configure it through the running instance is batshit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but tooling's important.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not want to drop 3 hours on fiddling my bouncer again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my bouncer seems to be dropping lines
(trilema) ben_vulpes frowns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: getdata is used in response to inv, to retrieve the content of a specific object, and is usually sent after receiving an inv packet, after filtering known elements. It can be used to retrieve transactions, but only if they are in the memory pool or relay set - arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes (which modern nodes do not).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey whose idea was it to prevent the network from relaying transactions outside of the context of blocks and was it really that good of an idea?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no dimple
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as in needing to switch between focusing on something in front of one and focusing on the screen?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't the eyeglass lenses have a focus at infinity problem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought i was reasonably well acquainted with that thread
(trilema) ben_vulpes frowns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: requires drawing on the retina to work properly imho.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not viable yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stylus*
(trilema) ben_vulpes somewhat misses the stylexen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails. << i wonder if Apple has the steel to pull off their watch play.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh goodie another thing to rewrite
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc they got sued by the world wildlife foundation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: words don't just *lose* their meaning mircea_popescu sheesh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is still wrestling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wrestling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think wrestling is still called wrestling.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hanslaught
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's too much!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: barely through the first cup yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes is time traveling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus there's a bit of "that's my little brother, only i get to bully him around"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: winding up one's own mother's an acquired taste.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: think i'll reserve the right to fuck with my mom's head for myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah i've read asylum
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] ben_vulpes so why not bring mom here ? << well now she's full-bore communist. notrly good company for the asshats.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/18128/meet-sarutobi-the-flying-bitcoin-collecting-monkey/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BitcoinMagazine+%28Bitcoin+Magazine%29 << tee hee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Zarathul: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=252647 << that's your inspiration? and is lith playable anywhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning, arsonists
(trilema) ben_vulpes just watched too much LFMGD, now must flop organs around hausbox
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fluffypony: "It will be so worth it,” enthuses Uhlenhuth. << downright lovecraftian, this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JshJMAnYHHo#t=1058
(trilema) ben_vulpes: night pete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: alternatively, come to portland this summer in your downtime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good excuse to show up a week early
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll need more than a few days of practice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can bring mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tefillin and all?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: homie i grew up on la fille mal garde
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh shit con4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm a wee picky about dance partners
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't imagine you're much of a follower
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sleep well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta say sir
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well pete_dushenski since it's just you and i...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i give you even money she's contributing to open source projects, doing his/their substitutions. << "she"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <assbot> [] Hi! I just turned 18 in February and am really excited to be getting to try new things ^_^ I'm ... ( http://bit.ly/1IQLTma )
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] http://collarspace.com/details.asp?px=sweetheartslave&bhcp=1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdp651OV2N1rg712do1_500.jpg << at first i was like "hrrrrrm supa suspect knots" and then i was like "o damn that's a bukkit of immabouttogetrealcold"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hang on i have to find the "my eyes rolled so far back they got stuck" emoji on this osxboard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are you running, windows on ferrari?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, blew my stack on any number of fronts and then had to soothe 51% and myriad bystanders down.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chassis buildout is unparalleled.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm not buying a non-Apple mobile computer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm fighting iTunes' desire to back my phone up in triplicate (a 45GB project) to maintain a reasonably empty hdd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which cannot open "modern" "Pages" files
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still on 10.9, which has an outdated version of Pages
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "apple is not a technology, apple is a vision" << oh jesus 51% sent me a bill to review in apple's proprietary spreadsheet format today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "first, say 'all cops are filth', and then i'll consider taking us up the hill in the morning."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my mom was actually one of those disappointed radicals from the sixties
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "I WANT TO SKI MOM"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no but channukah's not supposed to be a materialistic holiday, it's about murdering the roman--"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "FUCK THIS WHY AREN'T WE AT THE CABIN"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my parents tried to appease us with seven nights of tchotchkes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jewish christmas. 'tis a blessing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this not the civilized sport?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: christmas for me entails chinese food and skiing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm? no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform [] has never worn or so much as touched a hat made from a rarer animal than rabbit << i cap out at elk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there've been a few bottles of wine, pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: CESSPIT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i still dont get it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a wait its a c joke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Adlai> [] maybe you should've called it cssipd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I DON'T GET THE CEPHALAPOD JOKE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hue hue hue
(trilema) ben_vulpes: low hanging fruit lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to the gulag trucks together?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the fambly that fucks together...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you boned the bride?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, your girl knows them huh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: why u no!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: coming to ars this spring?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: coming to ars this spring?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grab asster, maybe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: certainly smells funky
(trilema) ben_vulpes: local calendars are trivially trollable, in the fishing sense.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno man, you know where i live.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: mine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notion is to skip recruitment phase and just go directly to winning "competition" for arcane local rep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: well the common pattern is "show up! recruit t34m! build thinger and or slideshow depending on what your idiots can muster!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you learned nothing from clements?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hey man this is america, land of the scam.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: we can't tell if the nefarious plan is retarded though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: show up at amateur hour, crush competition with "fart app", accrue reputation points to drive dealflow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] Adlai that's the idea. looky here : gribble/wot was created a few years ago,. when btc was worth nothing and nobody bothered distinguishing between taaki and gavin. << oh we're distinguishing between taaki and gavin nao
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (in weird metaphor where shop has tentacles in gulf stream of deal flow)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: problem being nobody involved can figure if anyone involved with the charade will actually increase deal surface area
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notion being: show up; don't pitch; build hilaribad thing; present like seasoned shartup pros; clean up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and by the shop i mean me and 51%)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the shop is considering entering a local "hackathon"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay jokesrs time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: make it stahp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] not without seven oceans' worth of parallelconstructiony-plausibledeniability << what was that apocryphal "nazi" dropped out of the plain with "papers" again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: qntra's the great white hopi afaict
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a new fucked company presumes someone who can "write" scathing..."blog posts"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "exit" acquisition/IPO value
(trilema) ben_vulpes: easymoad: just use crunchbase, propose a decent discount factor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <assbot> [] Venture Capital investment in Silicon Valley hits dot-com boom levels • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1IQpMME ) << task for eager student: calculate ROI for each VC firm based on known investments and exits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> [] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/17/vc_investment_hits_dotcom_boom_levels/ << annual silly-con valley vc funding is less than a single whatsapp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least you're not stooping so far as to toe the clutch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but hey "tow the party line" at least you got a decent pun out of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: till you got kicked off the circuit lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] http://36.media.tumblr.com/769eacecb4e2f3ef24158d768aea710f/tumblr_mixnuyf1yc1rigqazo1_500.jpg << nice freckles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or spell either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naw, your intel's rotten.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll offend mircea_popescu's linkrot sensibilities
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no wai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !b 5
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (that's what they call it in french canada, right?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my bet is that the cars blog poops out the odd benjamine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: classic joo :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just out of curiosity, how do you procure bezzlebuxx?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: biz biz tho - how is it? buy any bonds?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: silly-con valley chumpatron con ojos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haw, ain't no money in advertisements.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: have you read jaynes' original?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how's biz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ca va?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: evening, pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> [] fuckin key party and assumption of socialization << another kakobrekla line worth reposting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as someone somewhere once said "i don't hire developers who spell well, i hire developers who mispell consistently."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not that anyone should expect a "developer" to understand how to write english well - it's hard and takes a lot of dedicated study.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "pushed by" not "initiated by". furthermore, doesn't make the usage somehow acceptable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "their" implies more than one party.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you don't know the gender, say "his or her"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a plural cannot by definition be a singular thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as a valid construct.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's only ever pushed by "anti sexists"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevermind that them/their is actually incorrect grammar if not used in reference to more than one person
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> i tried to make a raw tx once, got rejected by my own node for having too small a fee << heinous
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brain now contains c++, not sure if improvement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: learned some
(trilema) ben_vulpes pissing on fences
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "whole blockchain" << and more specifically, a trivial lookup of txids
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *entirely* different project
(trilema) ben_vulpes: raw transactions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: say i have the transaction hash (aka txid) and output index - how do i get the pubkey those coins were sent to?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how do i get the pubkey for a given output?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a user-supplied privkey.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (one can sign anything at any time - that's not the problem. the problems crop up in a) knowing the sigs are valid and b) the multi-input, multi-privkey transaction generation use-case: how am i to know which privkeys are to be used to sign which inputs, and furthermore [and somewhat recursively] how do i know those signatures to be valid?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: make sense?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise you just sign hash of txn, index in txn, and have no way to double check that you produced a valid signature corresponding to the pubkey to which those funds were transmitted originally.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to verify that you've created a valid transaction, you have to have the entirety of the previous output on hand to examine the public key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to use the modern txn api, yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know that a bitcoind would be able to verify a transaction without access to the full inputs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while this isn't *strictly* necessary, it's how things work now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: creating a raw transaction requires having the previous transaction in hand in full at runtime, so as to extract the pubkey from the previous transaction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: far easier for the people working on it at the time to make some silly assumptions about what txns a user would want to sign, and then keep those txns on hand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm starting to see some of the rationale behind the wallet paradigm - creating transactions for signing requires being able to retrieve arbitrary transactions from the blockchain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tx backport archaeology's an interesting thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably want to decouple bot from funding actions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't really know how the transmission of btc is supposed to work for the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: if you're interested in implementing, talk to MP for the spec
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/open-deed-system-for-bitcoin-assets/ << wish i had time for this one
(trilema) ben_vulpes eyes p. bahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: need the right partners tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: supreme annihilation's a pretty fun game
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a Good Morning in America™
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i awoke to sewage leaking around the bathtub plug actuator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the apartment complex drain backed up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos dias
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://w.b-a.link/trust/ben_vulpes/kakobrekla/json << lovely, kakobrekla thanks a mil
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning terrorists
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does anyone know when the transaction index was added?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ouch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://vine.co/v/OZOnMZ2xpZZ << stability manifolds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everyone's trivially framed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> [] outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make a legacy' << just look for the "apparent pedophilia rate" as evidenced by "he had kiddie pr0nz" to go up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.robinhood.com/ << if you want to be front-run
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll settle for 8%/year
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.kakobrekla.3:71dbfce4f8bb960b54b95894d306db892a6f30da3fc5776c31b3ef6f2f45b0c4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate kakobrekla 3 wot steward
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "newspaper" in the trad'l sense of "town rag" still exists in various municipalities. "grey lady", not so much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lmk if that changes, yeah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that link refuses to resolve for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell manamex you're joining channels and then applying your cloak. FYI.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the semantics for working with asswot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nope. perhaps the otp machine?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did i crash assbot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p lulzy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: love the cameraphone in the back there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i love how they have precisely 1 vine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK << totally worth reposting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://io9.com/high-speed-video-reveals-the-source-of-that-incredible-1679834126
(trilema) ben_vulpes: -assets is highly async, PinkPosixPXE - didn't read any impoliteness
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning PinkPosixPXE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why this obsession with new programming languages
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/urbit/sample-apps/master/blazon/app/blazon/core.hook << undata indeed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 10%!