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mod6: ok. so the stator tarball contains all of the relivant packages. I think by linking you to all of his patches are applied therein.
mod6: and run these to pull down OpenSSL/BDB/Boost:
mod6: (if you don't do that last step, you can not verify the sig)
mod6: then `mv stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz stator.tar.gz` and `mv stator_72424e6da0f81aea5ab09165c377fd8b7418983f.tar.gz.sig stator.tar.gz.sig`
mod6: then...
mod6: once pulled down do this `sha1sum stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz stator_72424e6da0f81aea5ab09165c377fd8b7418983f.tar.gz.sig` and ensure that the output hashes match what's embedded in the file name.
mod6: stick them in a directory like `sandbox`
trinque: didn't want to bother with why, so I built in the VM then copied the binary out
trinque: the latter
mod6: trinque: what do you mean that gentoo wouldn't build? like OS itself from our guide? or you couldnt build stator on there?
trinque: my gentoo would not build, so I used the VM
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell aquentin simmer the fuck down and learn how to use the tools.
mod6: Then..
mod6: hanbot: ok so to complete your mission. you'll need a x86-64 / glibc linux environment - gentoo is great, others ok probably too.
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hanbot: mod6> hanbot: so, this might help you, it's worth a read through anyway -- it's a script that I created to pull down v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, and then add ascii's recent patches up through verifyall [ read the script for all that are applied ]: http://dpaste.com/23VKWD8.txt << neat deal on this & the latter scripts. my mission is to build based on the inferred instructions here tho': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html . is th
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: the original was, iirc, used to sign winblowz pgp updates
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 01:50:46; asciilifeform: decimation: 'telco 214' is the owner of a single ip which houses, as far as i can tell, at least 2% of current net hash.
mircea_popescu: liquidassets funciary comes from fonsier, "issu de l'ancien français fonds". it's just another way to say "fundamental" (same root these two)
liquidassets: property only entered into it when I tried looking up meaning to funciary commodity. Yes, the "do you want it?" seems to be the question. Thanks MP always a pleasure
mod6: i tried it on gentoo, but should build on other x86-64 linux distro's i'd think.
shinohai: nice going mod6 on the gentoo build
mircea_popescu: in other words : forget whether you own it or don't own it. the cogent question is, do you want it ?
liquidassets: is this the distinction between numerar which is about being fungible and easily traded?
mircea_popescu: i will need that in the form of a question.
liquidassets: mircea_popescu this cultural war where women are thought to be numerar or funciara is this to say a cultural war where one side is trade for trades sake (pecunia non olet) and the other side is more like fuck your money death before dishonor! Either way with men being the agent either trading women or claiming them as their own as in free hold absolutely.
mod6: This one will do the same as the one before, except this will create the dirs, pull the 3rd party packages, and build "stator" directly though this script. Please read the script. `realpath`, `gnupg` and `curl` are required.
mod6: So in addition to lastnight's script I posted [ pulls down ascii's latest patches (up through -verifyall) and applies them to v0.5.3.1 ], I've got an updated one that i've just tested & worked for me on x86-64 gentoo w/glibc: http://dpaste.com/2F68T3F.txt
mircea_popescu: a lot more chtonic, the entire "the pink hole's the hole the night comes through" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there are distinction. the ru prison theme is "vodka and women / look what they reduce us to". not exactly the same thing.
asciilifeform: can name one other non-emasculated head of state today ?
mircea_popescu: it's the laugh of all time.
mircea_popescu: wherein hitting an idiot over the head repeatedly is patently a cultural process.
mircea_popescu: there are numerous points where these orthogonal concerns come into objective conflict, which is always resolved culturally.
mircea_popescu: a numerary commodity, ie money in jewish europe, is the good that measures all other goods.
mircea_popescu: anyway. a funciary commodity, ie like land in medieval europe, is the good that makes all other goods.
mircea_popescu: whereas muslims, contrary to the bum job they're getting, are actually quite consumately decadent.
mircea_popescu: (because they're retarded)
mircea_popescu: dja understand the distinction ?
mircea_popescu: the african view on women, somewhat seen in things like "bros before hos" is that they are a numerary commodity. the muslim view on women, somewhat visible in burkas et all, is that they are a funciary commodity. to use the terminology suggested by our young friend with a california shop to be.
asciilifeform: brothel vs harem ?
asciilifeform: what is the 'cultural war' referenced earlier?
mircea_popescu: their problem.
mircea_popescu: no strength no knowledge no will no nothing. so they're gonna be paying.
mircea_popescu: sexual mercantilism is definitely going to come back in a major way, seeing how a) it's fundamental to black culture (as opposed to muslim culture) which is a major cultural war raging right now that white dudes know jack about ; b) there is no redeeming value to males atm outside of access to resources.
assbot: The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxR3lb )
mircea_popescu: recruit young women in the "Fuck army", as per http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ ?
mircea_popescu: me either. let them fucking figure it out neh ?
mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by the mid 2000s anyone with half a clue had long left porn. the remaining mouthbreathers were kind-of fun to watch, which is why gfy was such a success with people in the know.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 10:14:26; liquidassets: For context, I’m working on opening a retail business in California and I’m kicking ideas around for the concept behind it. I’m thinking of calling it Numéraire Goods. Numeraire good being an economic concept meaning a base good that functions as money in which all other tradable item’s prices are expressed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209512 << no, we're aware. the word "numerar" is actually how you say cash in romanian.
asciilifeform: 'Manwin used their traffic to sell ad space to those same production companies they enabled theft from. Production companies paid a lot for banners. Manwin then began buying the companies they had helped devalue, including Digital Playground—the company I was contracted to for a number of years. I believe the worst sorts of capitalists would consider Manwin’s behavior a win of the highest order.' << sop
mircea_popescu: just how self parodic can the "human rights" twerps get ?
mircea_popescu: "i hold an unsubstantiable, borderline pathological belief that the white race is better than all others. i spend my time trying to convince everyone to pick on white people by calling them racist if they do not". the whole libertard agenda on "race" as they understand it.
mircea_popescu: how about stop fucking being racist already, if racism bothers you so much. jeez.
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with these people.
mircea_popescu: fucktards. "perhaps this racist thing could be used to disadvantage the races i happen to hate, which i call positive. but as the race i happen to hate happens to also be objectively superior to the other races, it will likely play out the other way. OH NOES!"
phf: mircea_popescu: it was for common lispers in the crowd
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps some users will implement it in a harmless and beneficial way, such as creating a safe space for women. But it’s just as likely that, in a few years, Googling for a snippet of this code yields search results that are the equivalent of a who’s who of racist and misogynist sites."
mircea_popescu: imagine! slashdot media worth 20mn. pity they didn;'t have a watsapp slapped on.
mircea_popescu: not even sure this actually needs any fixing providing they work
mircea_popescu: there's nothing worthless in nature.
mircea_popescu: anwyay. instructive read for the bois interested in their "profession", its place in the world, future etc. heck, might even help understand girls.
mircea_popescu: why exactly this doesn't pop up in the search tho, is an open question
mircea_popescu: buy up all this cheap crud (software, pornware) by the kg, "monetize" it.
mircea_popescu: "According to a 2011 feature in New York, a man named Fabian Thylmann bought a company named Mansef in 2010 to mash their tube sites and other properties together to form a new company called Manwin."
assbot: Tubes vs. Torrents: the Ethics of Piracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxNNpQ )
asciilifeform: a handful of 'lucky winners' to lead the cannon fodder to their graves
asciilifeform: whether broadway, or pornway, or sv programmerz
mircea_popescu: but i mean this is by the fucking book, where the hell was it
mircea_popescu: like it or not, my boys = coders / girls = camwhores thing is closer to the reality of the matter than any hopes dreams or aspirations
assbot: Dice swallows Slashdot, SourceForge, Freecode in $20m deal • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1gOhqwo )
asciilifeform: they also own 'slashdot'
mircea_popescu: phf you mean in the wiki ?
asciilifeform: who began replacing winblows exes hosted therein, with malware
mircea_popescu: i had no idea the supply chain is THAT vulnerable, thanks god i asked questions.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, ima move it to the downloads page.
mircea_popescu: i had no fucking idea this is even a thing, but given that we link against a specified version anyway, there's really no reason to even use sourceforge.
mircea_popescu: not to derp about how there's no proof of "foul play or suicide".
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how the us coroners work these days. if a 28 yo man is found dead at home, the traditional way is to require evidence of natural death
mircea_popescu: "There was "no evidence of foul play or suicide," police in Gainesville said via Twitter."
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 04:37:29; asciilifeform: between this and the block parser, we have maybe a quarter of a cl implementation of bitcoin here...
mircea_popescu: re that phoronix thing : isn't it a sad state of affairs when the year is 2015 and yet the best way some computer expert has to convey his problems to others is BY TAKING A PHUCKING CELLPHONE SHOT OF THE SCREEN ?
asciilifeform: ile descriptor is leaked into processes spawned by SUID binaries. This means child processes of SUID root processes can write to arbitrary files owned by the root user anywhere in the filesystem. This allows for easy privilege escalation in OS X 10.10.x.' << ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: 'When this variable was added the usual safeguards that are required when adding support for new environment variables to the dynamic linker have not been used. Therefore it is possible to use this new feature even with SUID root binaries. This is dangerous, because it allows to open or create arbitrary files owned by the root user anywhere in the file system. Furthermore the opened log file is never closed and therefore its f
mircea_popescu: "After Carlos, a 12-year-old whose father has died in the Spanish Civil War, arrives at an ominous boy's orphanage he discovers the school is haunted and has many dark secrets that he must uncover."
asciilifeform: thing sits in the spanish countryside, and demented kids hug it, talk to it...
asciilifeform recalls the kid in del toro's 'the devil's backbone' and his gigantic bomb
mircea_popescu: nah, us bombed romania plenty in the early 40s. major oil supplier for teh third reich.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how it got there. conceivably, dropped during the war
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's old rusty bomb fell in the '50s ?!!
mircea_popescu: no, 52, the 50s thing.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the b52 bombers ? they cost <10mn a piece.
mircea_popescu: (as a boy, /me used to play around a very large unexploded bomb. the crew had taken out the fuse and left it in place, by the 60s the rains had washed it out thoroughly, by the 80s it was a mostly rusted hunk of metal)
mircea_popescu: "yeah, there is. like how the fuck you didn't abord in the third week like every other case of lethal trisomy"
asciilifeform: it is worth noting that my other two nodes (one of which is on residential fiber, even!!) haven't skipped a beat since powerup
mircea_popescu: "there's so much we don't understand about biology"
asciilifeform: 'consistently broken' is not quite it. a 'consistently littered' city may have many dog turds, but one does not expect to find unexploded ordnance from ww2 on the sidewalk
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 03:44:37; asciilifeform: the whole point of the way the patches were written.
mircea_popescu: read the logs at that time, they stand symbolic of this problem. how the fuck is one to prove the internet is broken X way when iot's consistently broken so many ways from sunday.
mircea_popescu: "maybe it's the router". "no, because isp has been sane" "well..."
mircea_popescu: yes but what's that do. i said the same at the time, it was like...mmmkay well... it dun work./
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 13:42:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209088 << sadly there can always be a question of misconfiguration. it's the internet.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 10:46:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol what's this, the russiarchist's cookbook ?
asciilifeform: it was in the magiclist
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2014 14:52:26; mircea_popescu: the whole thing is like 500 sites, not even 1k
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 00:54:28; asciilifeform: the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 00:40:14; asciilifeform: there can be ~NO~ fucking question of misconfiguration
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209088 << sadly there can always be a question of misconfiguration. it's the internet.
mircea_popescu: what, you mean like people pretending to be judges pretending to listen to people who are pretending to be das pretending to be prosecuting people who are pretending to be breaking the law ? the first in the hopes of selling this into a "political career", the latter in the hopes of selling this into a "career in showbiz" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol what's this, the russiarchist's cookbook ?
liquidassets: For context, I’m working on opening a retail business in California and I’m kicking ideas around for the concept behind it. I’m thinking of calling it Numéraire Goods. Numeraire good being an economic concept meaning a base good that functions as money in which all other tradable item’s prices are expressed.
liquidassets: ben_vulpes submission for the Trilema GPG Contract short-story contest?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 18:24:00; ben_vulpes: Story has it that he returned to Hazelton, once, after a trip up the Telegraph Trail, and there he found out that he had missed the farthest cabin of all, over two hundred miles away, and there were two men up there left without supplies for the winter. Either the Government had not made the tale of the cabins clear or C. B. himself had miscalculated. However that may have been, the plain fact remained t
gribble: The operation succeeded.
liquidassets: ;;later tell danielpbarron What historically has a pound of flesh equal? Are there any scriptural equivalency tables you can direct me to?
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Vexual: dunno, cant read the sig
BingoBoingo: punkman: I only have foundation builds running on that "Mint" ubuntu like at the moment
punkman: Vexual: who's the mustache?
Vexual: i think they must have
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punkman: I wonder if they chose the smell
punkman: did they outsource the printing?
Vexual: the media was well and truly muted when corruption was suggested
Vexual: they do smell nice tho
Vexual: punkmn, it's illegal to mention polymer notes and who prints them here
BingoBoingo: SamouraiWallet: How are you handling the forklets?
punkman: they'd probably run out of paper in a day or two
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 16:27:25; mircea_popescu: "2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208773 << the worst part is that there was a plan to do exactly this by a couple dozen derps in the parliament
Vexual: another funny thing i saw, someone designed the rax increasers to walk across a university lawn thats taboo
trinque: hear that everyone? common lisp bitcoind is on the way
phf: #S(MESSAGE-MESSAGE :START-STRING #(249 190 180 217) :COMMAND-NAME "version" :PAYLOAD-SIZE 85 :CHECKSUM #(250 5 185 54)) came from the node and the checksum verifies
mod6: oh, i noticed a mistake above in my text, there is no such dir as 'bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE', it's simply 'bitcoin-v0_5_3_1'. hope that doesn't trip anyone up too badly.
trinque: mod6: thanks for the script
mod6: Anyone else looking to build the same thing by hand (as opposed to just using stator as is) can use this above process ^^ for now.
mod6: Anyway, yeah, we can go through it tomorrow. I've also got some curl commands to pull down the distfiles:
mod6: I've probably done a dozen builds this way in the last 2 weeks.
mod6: If you run that script in a directory say ~/sandbox then you can `cd bitcoin-v0_5_3_1` `mkdir -p ourlibs distfiles` - then pull down the boost/bdb/openssl and drop them in distfiles. then finally drop in stator.sh into the ~/sandbox/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE dir and kick it off. that should do the trick.
mod6: hanbot: so, this might help you, it's worth a read through anyway -- it's a script that I created to pull down v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, and then add ascii's recent patches up through verifyall [ read the script for all that are applied ]: http://dpaste.com/23VKWD8.txt
Vexual: ^not suicide, theres no kids helpline link
asciilifeform: how else will they rent it to you for 25bux/mo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is a cheap and largely forgotten dc, like 1,001 others
asciilifeform: then i will cancel the contract with that hoster.
asciilifeform: and post them publicly
asciilifeform: i'ma let it run until it syncs, and then dump the blocks that ~did~ get through
asciilifeform: it is exactly like the situation roughly a month ago with mircea_popescu's node.
asciilifeform: between this and the block parser, we have maybe a quarter of a cl implementation of bitcoin here...
phf: so if you do that whole socket-connect, write-command, and then (read-byte (usocket:socket-stream *sock*)) you should be getting bytes back, because the node is primed to talk to you
phf: so the end result of incitatus going online was an exercise in sending a version packet to a node to elicit some sort of response
asciilifeform: the climate makes short work of anything ferrous
asciilifeform: and insert a normal human ethernet card
asciilifeform: though i showed mine to diametric today and he pointed out that the 802.11 daughterboard speaks standard usb through those 4 pins
BingoBoingo still wonders where the small machines are with ECC and 2+ sata II ports
Vexual: did you check the clock?
Vexual: taste the soup
hanbot: okay got the planned patch spaghetti untangled, ty asciilifeform. mod6 volunteered to let me torture him tomorrow with release issues. i'll report on how all this goes.
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asciilifeform: ttp://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html
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hanbot: asciilifeform i sketched the patch tree like so:
BingoBoingo: Sources and binary for my Bitcoin 0.7-ish turd http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/bitcoin-0.7.2/
asciilifeform: this is done as described therein:
asciilifeform: so you want to reconstitute the snapshot found in the linked post?
hanbot: the former
asciilifeform: or some other set, with different patches ?
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asciilifeform: was confused with other builder for a sec.
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asciilifeform: the whole point of the way the patches were written.
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hanbot: asciilifeform so this route i imagined of installing v0.5.3.1-RELEASE followed by patching with the two bits mentioned in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html & the patches they themselves require is...impossible? redundant?
decimation: asciilifeform: https://github.com/omegamoon/ < these folks seem to have a kernel for the rk30xx series socs
trinque: bails out at the first exit nonzero
asciilifeform: this builds the whole shebang.
asciilifeform: the classical recipe for stator involves getting hold of the dependencies (listed in stator/distfiles/MANIFEST), placing them in the latter dir, and ./stator.sh
BingoBoingo: Is anyone other than ben_vulpes interested in my 0.7-ish turdball?
mod6: really, the main question at this point should be: do you wanna run the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE or are you looking to help test with the latest (pre)v0.5.4 patches?
mod6: it was designed to work on deb6, others had no problems. but *shrug*. what system are you using hanbot?
asciilifeform: (but perhaps it works for others ?)
mod6: sure, use `script` to start a logging facility just type 'exit' when done and it'll dump out a 'typscript' file in the local dir.
asciilifeform: aha then shoot
hanbot: well hopefully if logged it can be pointed to other folks later if needed
decimation: there's some stuff about DDR, but no full datasheet for that one
hanbot: so i'm attempting reference implementation install for the first time and have a boatload of errors at ./auto.sh , not sure where to begin. if anyone has the time & patience for my noobery, please ding me.
asciilifeform: these are reasonably-documented, yes
decimation: TXD, master and serial small plate connected to ground, do not connect the power supply pins."
decimation: "And 2916 RK2928 chip output through internal IO_SWITCH debug serial and OTG interfaces on the same set of IO, RK2926 for the first 6465 pin, RK2928 to V8 W8 pins. The two serial ports for the default mode, when detecting VBUS signal will switch to USB_DEVICE mode, detects the ID port is low will automatically
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: interestingly the chat took place very near the daily rollover
asciilifeform: then wtf
asciilifeform: if i wanted the machine to care about whitespace, i would have put whitespace in the query
decimation: ok it appears to be RK2928 if the kernel bootlog isn't lying
decimation: yeah I was aware of the stemming shit, but not that it completely misses things
asciilifeform: which is the one and only true search.
asciilifeform: decimation: the search is broken from day 1
decimation: asciilifeform: interestingly your link is in the log but is completely missing from search
asciilifeform: (and that, conversely, all items thusly divisible are in the list)
asciilifeform: considering that i proved that all of the items in the 'magic list' are divisible by 4294967297
asciilifeform: and ^ yes, 'PGP Corporation Update Signing Key' was in the 'magic list'
asciilifeform: decimation: it is in the log (dpaste link to the spew from serial port on boot)
decimation: asciilifeform: which 'rockchip' do you have? the imgur image is not clear
mod6: <+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html << nice work!
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible'
mod6: so it'd be nice to eventually move this into something that other guys know how to do.
mod6: and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :}
mod6: again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python.
mod6: this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.)
mod6: here's another sample with another more advanced test automated: http://dpaste.com/15BA2H1.txt
mod6: my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394
asciilifeform: the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: clearly-enumerated byte limit in the contract, but otherwise open-eneded
asciilifeform: or 1,001 other bandwidth hogs
asciilifeform: phf: they never cared re: bittorrent
asciilifeform: no reason for a threadbare american hoster to be in on the mega-secret
asciilifeform: phf: this particular box is hosted in northeast usa
asciilifeform cannot be bothered to read any more phoundation code
asciilifeform: otherwise this could easily be the peculiar behaviour of BingoBoingo's phoundation node
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