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(trilema) nubbins`: so i sold a 0.5btc casascius coin for 6btc earlier today
(trilema) nubbins`: sometimes i suspect ;;coin is just ;;echo tails
(trilema) nubbins`: <--interloper
(trilema) nubbins`: ..with infected blankets?
(trilema) nubbins`: that used to be a bannable offence in many efnet chans
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, been a while since that's happened
(trilema) nubbins`: not [;;ticker --last] pretty, but pretty nonetheless
(trilema) nubbins`: very pretty
(trilema) nubbins`: my fax machine doesn't support silver ;(
(trilema) nubbins`: otherwise, yeah, i'd just do that :P
(trilema) nubbins`: well nobody wants to pay 2btc for 1btc over the internet
(trilema) nubbins`: always mildly nervous sending casascius coins in the mail
(trilema) nubbins`: just two white women humiliating themselves for no reason
(trilema) nubbins`: ok no nevermind
(trilema) nubbins`: haha, are these the "i was robbed by two men" people?
(trilema) nubbins`: selling user-funded coins is a neat idea tho
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ precisely this
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1: doubt it
(trilema) nubbins`: i just wanted to share: http://spam.virus
(trilema) nubbins`: carl sagan was high all the time
(trilema) nubbins`: watched the old PBS series cosmos a couple weeks ago
(trilema) nubbins`: i think it's cosmos with a c
(trilema) nubbins`: i like that
(trilema) nubbins`: is that for the case?
(trilema) nubbins`: heh, that's great
(trilema) nubbins`: pankkake has doled out 36btc to strangers, 1mBit at a time, since june?
(trilema) nubbins`: games took days
(trilema) nubbins`: i used to play chess via text message with a friend who lived in another province
(trilema) nubbins`: ask bingoboingo
(trilema) nubbins`: truffles: too high
(trilema) nubbins`: blackouts last couple weeks = no fun
(trilema) nubbins`: i need to set some of that shit up
(trilema) nubbins`: low-e windows, etc
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, heat pumps are catching on in a big way here for new developments
(trilema) nubbins`: awnings to keep hot sun out in the summer and let it in all winter
(trilema) nubbins`: for heating
(trilema) nubbins`: basic stuff, large south-facing windows, slab floors that retain heat, etc
(trilema) nubbins`: passive solar is the key, but not an option for all homes
(trilema) nubbins`: they minted it at one point
(trilema) nubbins`: electronics too i think
(trilema) nubbins`: catalytic converters, but what else
(trilema) nubbins`: who knows! what do you even use that shit for
(trilema) nubbins`: some are more fun than others
(trilema) nubbins`: highest purity available
(trilema) nubbins`: the .99999 purity gold coin i have is a real gem
(trilema) nubbins`: "platinum maple leaf coins, 99 and 44/100ths pure"
(trilema) nubbins`: srsly, drop the 5 or bump it to a 9
(trilema) nubbins`: mostly because "9995 purity" makes my skin itch
(trilema) nubbins`: platinum is one thing i don't hold
(trilema) nubbins`: real estate depends on the area
(trilema) nubbins`: a friend of mine put every cent he had into silver in 2008
(trilema) nubbins`: scroll to the bottom, check "2000-2014" (close enough) and click view
(trilema) nubbins`: shrug, kitco?
(trilema) nubbins`: KRS1: look at a 10yr graph
(trilema) nubbins`: it's a hard way to make a buck these days
(trilema) nubbins`: pick out the silvers and cash in the rest
(trilema) nubbins`: well, these days bored people just buy rolls and rolls of coins from the banks
(trilema) nubbins`: i've only ever come across a single solitary silver dime since i started examining pocket change
(trilema) nubbins`: an ounce of steel isn't worth too much ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: makes bank notes seem pretty unappealing, hey
(trilema) nubbins`: three coins per household unless you're a member of... THE MASTERS CLUB
(trilema) nubbins`: 100s are 1oz
(trilema) nubbins`: the 20s are only 1/4oz
(trilema) nubbins`: $100 for $100 -- er, we mean $125
(trilema) nubbins`: 100s, $125
(trilema) nubbins`: nod. as soon as the 20s sell out, you see them selling for $25
(trilema) nubbins`: each one has sold out so far
(trilema) nubbins`: of which i have several as well
(trilema) nubbins`: they do $100 for $100 coins, too
(trilema) nubbins`: i've got several :)
(trilema) nubbins`: government issue
(trilema) nubbins`: $1-2 per oz
(trilema) nubbins`: they actually do sell for slightly higher than spot
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, sorry, i misread
(trilema) nubbins`: the20year: my bank buys bullion for less than spot?
(trilema) nubbins`: you might as well walk into a hospital with a kidney for sale
(trilema) nubbins`: they don't just purchase loose coins off the street
(trilema) nubbins`: because places that purchase rare earth metals have long-term contracts with mines and refineries
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual: well, when the value explodes in the future, you can't just sell your gallium coins to samsung or w/e
(trilema) nubbins`: after all, if the bank expected the price to rise, why would they start selling it?
(trilema) nubbins`: KRS1: sorry, i meant that when my bank started selling bullion, i figured it meant i should start selling all my silver/gold
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual: rare earth coins are generally a bad investment.
(trilema) nubbins`: why not treat yourself to $100 of gold and $100 of silver?
(trilema) nubbins`: but let's say you bought $100 of btc and it's now worth $5k
(trilema) nubbins`: the20year: canada, cibc
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm not saying sell all your btc, that would be retarded
(trilema) nubbins`: which, to me, screams "SELL RIGHT NOW"
(trilema) nubbins`: recently my bank started selling silver and gold bullion over the counter
(trilema) nubbins`: i mean, shit, pull it out a few different ways. cash, even.
(trilema) nubbins`: but if you happen to have done well with btc and wish to safeguard your initial investment, purchasing its value in gold and/or silver is an okay idea
(trilema) nubbins`: i mean, the whole silver/gold stacking thing is a bit fucking silly
(trilema) nubbins`: it's been higher
(trilema) nubbins`: as far as spot-value bullion coins go, there are really only a handful in both silver and gold
(trilema) nubbins`: to fill outstanding orders
(trilema) nubbins`: they put in an order with their supplier once a week or whatever
(trilema) nubbins`: people don't realize that a lot of these places don't really have stock on-hand waiting to ship
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, i've heard bad things about amagi too, although i've never had problems
(trilema) nubbins`: but you can only buy those through resellers. they don't sell them directly to the public.
(trilema) nubbins`: the mint also makes plain bullion coins (silver/gold maple leafs), that are sold for spot
(trilema) nubbins`: these are just collectible items. only bought for numismatic values.
(trilema) nubbins`: 1oz silver pieces are generally priced at $99, roughly 5x spot
(trilema) nubbins`: it was a funny piece. odd weight, nice design, low mintage, very high purity (99999!)
(trilema) nubbins`: last gold one i bought was, i think, 2x spot
(trilema) nubbins`: you might see three or four coins worth buying throughout the year
(trilema) nubbins`: first dibs on new releases too, but most of them are shitty these days
(trilema) nubbins`: if you were wondering, being in the masters club mostly just means you get a ton of junk mail
(trilema) nubbins`: some from there (i'm in the "masters club" now), some from amagi, some from casascius
(trilema) nubbins`: i went on a bit of a coin binge a few months ago
(trilema) nubbins`: they weren't kidding about the bust
(trilema) nubbins`: and i thought the guy paying 50btc for the first-day 2011 1btc coin was crazy
(trilema) nubbins`: well color me shocked!
(trilema) nubbins`: but $17k over?
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, yeah
(trilema) nubbins`: unless it has the blood of rasputin on it or something, it's just taking the piss
(trilema) nubbins`: find me a coin that a collector would pay $17,000 over spot for, y'know?
(trilema) nubbins`: or even worse, 30btc for their 10s
(trilema) nubbins`: i do have to laugh at the people asking 40btc for their 25btc rounds, though
(trilema) nubbins`: oh shush gribs
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, maybe casascius kept all the private keys, or maybe my gold bullion is filled with tungsten, or maybe my coffee whitener is full of powdered melamine
(trilema) nubbins`: so it's really a bit of a leap of faith either way
(trilema) nubbins`: i mean, i've even got pgp-signed docs from casascius with md5 checksums of scans of the coins he sent me... but that doesn't stop me from making fakes with the same addresses
(trilema) nubbins`: any number of things
(trilema) nubbins`: it's kind of risky though, because the other guy could just not send his coin
(trilema) nubbins`: i have some duplicates and want to expand my collection
(trilema) nubbins`: GREAT DEAL
(trilema) nubbins`: "you must pay escrow and shipping for both of us though"
(trilema) nubbins`: some forum guy registered sept 2013 with 0 trust wants to do a coin-for-coin trade with me
(trilema) nubbins`: what's new
(trilema) nubbins`: i wonder how long until this guy discovers btc
(trilema) nubbins`: wouldn't mind one of those silver rounds, altho the two descriptions can't even agree on the purity
(trilema) nubbins`: looser standards
(trilema) nubbins`: looks like some kind of "zany news" subsection tho
(trilema) nubbins`: well sure, but i didn't expect el reg to be so vulgar
(trilema) nubbins`: that's up there with "salmon canyon" and "ham wallet"
(trilema) nubbins`: "pork holster"?
(trilema) nubbins`: haha, yeah
(trilema) nubbins`: he hits the nail on the head
(trilema) nubbins`: nod, took me a while to warm up to it
(trilema) nubbins`: ding ding ding!!!
(trilema) nubbins`: HAHAHAHAHA
(trilema) nubbins`: not unlike any other country on earth, i suppose
(trilema) nubbins`: tat, apparently a not-insignificant portion of the population has a branch up their ass about immigrants
(trilema) nubbins`: and your hatred of asians
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, you australians
(trilema) nubbins`: inflammatory headline
(trilema) nubbins`: TBF italicized URLs are hard to notice :)
(trilema) nubbins`: i was going to say "because havelock doesn't make them easy to find", but the prospectus is linked in the first paragraph of the overview
(trilema) nubbins`: what did they call it, bitfreeze or something?
(trilema) nubbins`: something to do with their own security mechanisms iirc
(trilema) nubbins`: you can install another distro
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, if running sugar
(trilema) nubbins`: reaching back to yesterday's convo, i wonder how suitable an olpc would be
(trilema) nubbins`: so essentially you wouldn't trust any private keys generated by it
(trilema) nubbins`: don't trust broadom? :D
(trilema) nubbins`: alf, pourquoi?
(trilema) nubbins`: well, an ass wouldn't leave fingerprints
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual: 10 day auction
(trilema) nubbins`: better place a bid, then ;)
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ watch me waste listing fees
(trilema) nubbins`: john the dong
(trilema) nubbins`: hundreds of btc, apparently
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual: nope, still missing
(trilema) nubbins`: escrow john k. missing since november 29!
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, friend popping over. thanks for the advice
(trilema) nubbins`: all using lenovo
(trilema) nubbins`: thousands of employees
(trilema) nubbins`: actually, every computer across the country
(trilema) nubbins`: my last office job, every computer in the building was a lenovo
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo: will look into that, thanks
(trilema) nubbins`: apparently ubuntu supports touch
(trilema) nubbins`: her last netbook was $300 and lasted 4 years
(trilema) nubbins`: i'd love to, she doesn't want to spend the $$
(trilema) nubbins`: she's in her 60s
(trilema) nubbins`: nah, just casual use
(trilema) nubbins`: after a fashion
(trilema) nubbins`: thinking ubuntu or mint, not sure about touch support in either
(trilema) nubbins`: thinking about putting linux on a touchscreen netbook for my mother. distro recommendations?
(trilema) nubbins`: likely will lose listing fees
(trilema) nubbins`: nah. just listed a rare casascius coin on ebay, starting bid $3.8k
(trilema) nubbins`: so i've decided to throw some money away
(trilema) nubbins`: dicky mouse
(trilema) nubbins`: truffles: dick noses
(trilema) nubbins`: mildly surprised they (a) chose it and (b) gave it a full page spread on the first page of section B
(trilema) nubbins`: was particularly proud of that one
(trilema) nubbins`: managed to sneak a dick into the local paper, even
(trilema) nubbins`: not quite that many yet
(trilema) nubbins`: sort of ends up that way
(trilema) nubbins`: there are a lot of dicks in the acid zines, usually
(trilema) nubbins`: occasionaly we even print on old things :D
(trilema) nubbins`: other pet projects
(trilema) nubbins`: acid zines, weird prints, etc
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, fairly well
(trilema) nubbins`: we do a combination of client work and dicking around on our own
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, we've been getting more into that lately
(trilema) nubbins`: works so far
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