pete_dushenski: though why the piece of shit cointelegraph wordpress implementation never sent me a pingback, while 'virtual mining' did, is another story
pete_dushenski: 'virtual mining news' doesn't look like anything other than a scam, and it turns out it is !
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 08:41:32; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241426 <<< maybe this is discussed later on in the logs, but i read this on cointelegraph, not virtual mining news - http://cointelegraph.com/news/115136/nick-szabo-block-size-increase-a-huge-security-risk
BingoBoingo: Naphex: You know the pseudonode thing runs well in an AWS micro
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/08/no-xtcoin-support-committed-to-the-blockchain-yet/#comment-42937
BingoBoingo: Not connected to a single XT node at the moment
asciilifeform: nah but you 'get points for trying' if you break your fists. somehow. in the bizarre usg twerp view of the world.
punkman: they take 0.5% fee per tx, lel
punkman: "The previous CoinWallet test only achieved about 15% of its output because its servers crashed."
asciilifeform: '"We feel that our tests might prove to be the catalyst that propels the core devs and miners to implement the required hard fork that is desperately needed," Coinwallet told BitBeat.'
BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it
punkman: shinohai: lol'd at the televangelists asking for donations to buy a jet
funkenstein_: Fiercely individual, distrustful of the corruption of the cities and the law, following his own code of honor, he is in the great tradition of the romantic figure"
funkenstein_: "As -The Virginian- established the cowboy in our literary culture, so did Hernandez' -Martin Fierro- become the archetype of the gaucho, the independent man of the pampas.
funkenstein_: kill the messenger. new technology, same broken psychology
funkenstein_: a lot of old cars overheat, they should make a law against temperature sensors which display in the dashboard
chetty: haha, I suppose there are tools with no redeeming value
jurov: many ppl using windows are not retards, just completely unaware there's a better way to use a computer
chetty: isn't a tool something that is used? So its the user that would be retarded, no?
kakobrekla: anyway, a tool can be retarded, its the very definition of it ; "you are a such a tool". see?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: there you go
punkman: there is this of course http://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2012/06/6a0120a85dcdae970b017742d249d5970d-800wi.jpg
kakobrekla: hammer is retarded only if you hit yourself on the head. must use nails.
kakobrekla presumes people here do their own ass wiping
kakobrekla: its not like you cant split that full int further down yourself.
jurov: if you send payment rounded to N places, the change should be also rounded to N places (and rest to fees, presumably)
mircea_popescu: making itobvious which is the change.
mircea_popescu: (which is why shithead services like coinbase don't even implement the whole 8 digits. their 2010ish understanding of "de-anonymization technicues."
punkman: "if the spend amount has a lot of trailing zeros, eg, 2.34000000 BTC, then have change outputs that also have the same amount of trailing zeros. Otherwise, it's obvious which one is the spend." << anyone can explain this?
mircea_popescu: da fuck is wrong with these schmucks, anyway. "herpitty-derp, i wish to push a widely unpopular, nutty agenda. obviously the best way to do this is to ask people interested in selling more to side with me. because logically if those racist white supremacists actually boycott walmart until it puts the lot of us in a concentration camp, walmart totally won't. because hurr."
mircea_popescu: maybe they should petition voltaire's sponsors too. until he becomes the "hip", "cool" figure they want him to be or something.
mircea_popescu: no, it doesn't. it sounds about as much like voltaire as any other bit of usian drivel.
jurov: and then on #b-a chauvinists :DDDD
shinohai: Pffft ... #bitcoin-assets *is* the best party
punkman: you'll get invited to the best parties!
shinohai: hanbot: liked the build notes writeup. Almost made me want to install it on Ubuntu.
punkman: "According to business registration information, Ruihai's two largest shareholders are Li Liang and Shu Zheng, who hold 55 percent and 45 percent of the company's shares respectively. But as of Sunday, Li remained missing, while Shu told the media that he was only a grassroots public servant, and he lent his identity card to a friend when Ruihai was registered."
punkman: mircea_popescu: around here they can and do oppose, but everything is lilliputian-scale compared to California
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241426 <<< maybe this is discussed later on in the logs, but i read this on cointelegraph, not virtual mining news - http://cointelegraph.com/news/115136/nick-szabo-block-size-increase-a-huge-security-risk
mircea_popescu: punkman that's an entirely different argument tho. i have nfi what they're doing / dun care so much, but anyway. the fiat consensus is and has been, for the past ~800 years, that you can't oppose land ownership to road development.
mircea_popescu: chetty actually there have been "unjust enrichment" suits against states/townships on stuff like that.
punkman: so just let them destroy productive farms and dry out the delta, so they can water some piece of desert down south?
punkman: "Say what you will about the internet in 2015 but at least it helped everyone realize that everything we think and feel is wrong and dumb" https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/633500936208449536
chetty: well knowing cali they are probably picking routes thru the best crop land, and offering a penny an acre
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241289 <<< numbers going up doesn't mean too much, it's like kids who run away from home in the afternoon but are back by dinner time
mircea_popescu: i mean, it's one thing when they were simply stealing property to give to others who they figured "would pay more tax". that's fungible. but this isn't - train gotta go straight.
mircea_popescu: what, train's gonna go around old man joe's property forever more because 180 years ago there lived a curmudgeon ?
punkman: and nobody will use all those spiffy guns they like to polish and fondle
mircea_popescu: "you can either sell it at prevailing market values, or we'll take it at prevailing market values".
punkman: "Under the plan, landowners would have 30 days to consider and negotiate a one-time state offer, while officials simultaneously prepare to take the land by forced sale if owners declined to sell. "Negotiations to continue in parallel with eminent domain proceedings," the plan notes."
assbot: Watch: Colorblind Man Sees Colors of a Sunset for the First Time | Complex UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1E2ByVM )
punkman: http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/08/watch-colorblind-man-see-color-for-the-first-time-with-enchroma-glasses
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 20:50:22; BingoBoingo: In other news one interview for one job today seemed to go meh, the other job's interview seemed to go well. Hoping I can get that regular fiat income to start standing up srs noedz
mircea_popescu: and it's how they'll remain in use.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:11:33; wilbns: it seems fiat currencies will continue to exist for many generations to come, perhaps actual paper form will deminish, but an electronic register or display of some number of dollars for whoever the viewer is, will carry with it some semblance of wealth
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241816 << vice-versa, actually. the online fiat is dead, but its value as irl tokens remains. dollars are useful exactly like monopoly money and casino chips are useful,
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241810 << in the sense you're originally from ru, i gather.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:10:43; BingoBoingo: Given 2015 so far Hearnia must have planned to actually release XTCoin the first weekend of September. He ended up jumping the gun because USG pinoy spamzors. We won.
ag3nt_zer0: nothing quite like curling up with a nice bowl of fresh buttery popcorn, a blankey, and I Am Cait Ep. 3... should be a community event though, like a trip to the traveling wagon freak show - alas, my fellow americans seemed to have lost their ability to be astonished along with their sense of humor... I happily gaze at the four horsethingys (or is it taped?) baphomet myself...
mircea_popescu: hey, which anglo nut made a 50 copy edition of his crappy poetry and jacked off on the lot ? was it burroughs ?
BingoBoingo: bried survey of dex-kensaw also suggests many local with farms due to the substantial median size of holding possess "air tractor" which could be loaded with kerosene instead of monsanto for Joe Stack++
wilbns: BingoBoingo, yes, noticed that too - until someone from another religion flies a plane into a building.
mircea_popescu: wilbns i think if anyone in here's religious beliefs managed to survive in here for this long they'll be fine.
BingoBoingo: wilbns: The big thing is such sectarians are more competitive with other similar factions than they are with any outsider groups.
BingoBoingo: wilbns: Thing is... While there are a lot of goups in that area which engage in such extreme sectarianism... Some on the girls are hot and the region is vulnerable to conquest by actual people.
wilbns: it is also challenging the fear of god society and some religious institutions instill in people in the area. originally from arkansas and lived there 22 years, experienced first-hand. was sent to religious camp in branson 7 years in a row. bizarre at times. btw, no offense to anyone in here's religious beliefs, none of my business. just putting forth an
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Belxjander Pls fix your connection for the love of fuck
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo offer that yes, Kismet is supposed to be the white handmaiden of Satan keeping true Africa down, but Whitey is violent to no one else like his is to his fellow white man
BingoBoingo: Land that flat, covered in carbohydrates was made to host a great fire for the glory of Kismet
BingoBoingo: When alternatives always default to levo and dexo as options over trans and cis for the lulz
BingoBoingo: d-kansas is refered to as Arkansas in the common tongue, grows rice
asciilifeform always insisted that either kansas ought to be pronounced 'kensaw', or 'arkansas' ought to be r-kansas.
phf: asciilifeform: mine worked by doing a core dump on key press, and then you had to do a binary diff on a set of those. i kind of realized that i could put a diff/search algo into the tsr, but that was beyond my algorithm construction abilities at the time
mircea_popescu: it should be noted that the civilisation that chose to feed itself on wheat, a plant famous for and a plant whose only strategy is, to overinvest in its progeniture
mircea_popescu: but then in a few years it's drownerd out by more sanely balanced plants.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:04:29; asciilifeform: mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241775 << the point here being (perhaps unfamiliar to some readers) that wheat is not a sort of plant that survives, except in particular situations : say post volcanic eruption, when everything's been burned down. then the weed makes a quick colonisation, because of its disproportionate seeds.
phf: asciilifeform: i didn't get my hands on one of those until early 2000s, hence had to write my own. i vaguely recall a collection of tsr on a hacker tools cd that i bought in a metro perehod :), but at the time i somehow didn't pay enough attention to them
asciilifeform: ^ epic, still worth reading today for the lulz
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241711 << that shit's so retarded i hope they do it.
asciilifeform: sure they do
mircea_popescu: (in proper terms : clueless people don't have what to delude themselves with)
BingoBoingo also looking for fiat paying work, but only in positions where the only economic consequence of my employment would be occupying an already fungible position
wilbns: BingoBoingo: that would be a nice outcome from where we are now, being able to move in and out so easily. hopefully by that point there will also be less volatility to the downside in relation to the bottlecaps.
phf: mats: he was a junior at the company, so not much of a career. i think the objective is to work for a company that has offices at multiple locations. when i worked for another bank that will remain nameless, the opportunity was always implied from the beginning. in fact a lot of places like that love people with no local attachments, because means easy and cheap relocation.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Aztlan | The area (as distinguished above) of Aztlan has been under the rule of invaders; ruthless, war-like, greedy imperial powers, since the Spanish first colonized it.
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> asciilifeform: ah yes, thanks for the link - imagining one day in fact how silly it will be to hold up a $100 bill, or to go to an ATM. perhaps only those in "emerging markets" or "third world countries" will use such types of antiquated technologies and means of exchange. << I personally plan on eventually only every trading in an out of Bitcoin with year's worth of whatever the local bottlecaps happen to be
gribble: Los Zetas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas>; How 34 commandos created Mexico's most brutal drug cartel ...: <http://www.businessinsider.com/how-34-commandos-created-mexicos-most-brutal-drug-cartel-2015-3>; 13 things to know about Los Zetas, the ruthless Mexican drug cartel ...: <http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/10-things- (1 more message)
wilbns: asciilifeform: ah yes, thanks for the link - imagining one day in fact how silly it will be to hold up a $100 bill, or to go to an ATM. perhaps only those in "emerging markets" or "third world countries" will use such types of antiquated technologies and means of exchange.
gribble: Aztalan State Park Home - i94.biz: <http://i94.biz/aztalan/aztalan.html>; Aztalan State Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztalan_State_Park>; Aztalan State Park - Wisconsin DNR: <http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/parks/name/aztalan/>
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if i had to guess, it's the desire to earn living with terminal rather than kalash
phf: mats: i have a former colleague from a financial firm, who moved to hk recently, he's chinese, but i take it his mandarin is poor and cantonese non-existent. he's working for an english speaking company there and slowly getting his language up to speed. his reasoning for the move was "this boat is leaking"
BingoBoingo: mats: First I'll have to know you are in. Second I will have to not be in Chicago fema camp (because FEMA must take us to the places we hate most)
mats: BingoBoingo: plz break me out, there is a bitcoin reward in it for you
wilbns: these new derivative markets that are forming out of distributed / shared ledger technology could perhaps be the new stage for some form of electronic economy that will exist on a trillion/quadrillion level. the average person may only perceive that kind of scale at the end of the year, when milk costs $10
mats: can't do computing work if i can't even read the damned terminals
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2014 01:31:58; asciilifeform: ifetimes some tin-pot pseudo-nationalist leader will print up ugly slips of paper with pictures of dead people, Masonic symbols and big numbers, and attempt to charge people for using them as a medium of exchange in all transactions, and your great-grandchildren need to know, from an early age, that it is a scam. It is an official scvam, backed up by the threat of violence, but it is still a scam."
wilbns: it seems fiat currencies will continue to exist for many generations to come, perhaps actual paper form will deminish, but an electronic register or display of some number of dollars for whoever the viewer is, will carry with it some semblance of wealth
asciilifeform: mats: then at least you have the mega-superpower that folks can't tell immediately by face that you couldn't possibly have meatwot
phf: i gave her "kniga oborotnya" and she concluded that the book was dull and poorly paced, which is something i agree with, probably my least favorite p book
BingoBoingo: Given 2015 so far Hearnia must have planned to actually release XTCoin the first weekend of September. He ended up jumping the gun because USG pinoy spamzors. We won.
mats: for all practical purposes i am illiterate and have almost no meatwot there
mats: asciilifeform: nope, its at least five years in the distance
BingoBoingo: <mats> or, you know, the buttcoins, but i dunno whether we'll ever win the war at this rate << War was won.
asciilifeform: mats: they're good... now
phf: asciilifeform: she enjoyed it, and picked up on some subtleties, in any case more then i expected, but i think it was good enough for first reading
mats: i hope my dollars will still be good for renminbi exchange when the time comes
asciilifeform: mats: been there, done that, traded a shoebox full of toiletpaper money (printed on usg-donated presses during collapse!) for $1 usd.
BingoBoingo: <mats> i am still unprepared to flee to .cn << We all have to contemplate destinations other than what we though were Door #1
wilbns: it does seem the dollar is someone in store for a beating, perhaps that is what will stop interest rates from rising or enable more QE to continue
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world << Corn loves raw manure, but wheat demand you first light the manure and then till it into the field
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, gave the english version to my girl to read
BingoBoingo: As the state burns
mats: welp, i like a game of 'catch the falling knife' as well as anybody
asciilifeform: mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world
BingoBoingo: Last week I read a lot of "California beat the drought" stories based on more people in Compton working at McDonalds
asciilifeform: there is, iirc, even an english transl somewhere!
asciilifeform: they are - successes.
asciilifeform: to the engineers, those aren't failures.
asciilifeform: <mats> the rest of the world failing around you is the early warning system << distinguish the natural (drought) from the usg-engineered (just about everything else) failures.
wilbns: mats: maybe. there was an interesting quote you just made me think of - "a recession is when your neighbor loses his or her job. a depression is when you lose yours"
BingoBoingo: Welcome to the Terror Dome, er... Terra Foam
trinque: asciilifeform | trinque: which is a catgurl or the like. << LOL
wilbns: mats: agreed, that is the challenge - what exactly is happening in the status quo. food shortages, never before seen droughts, threat of a credit bubble collapsing, the middle easten on the verge and russia/china moving further away in their relations w/ europe and the us each new day. what is next.
asciilifeform: trinque: which is a catgurl or the like.
wilbns: asciilifeform: thanks for the tip!
trinque: the only thing I do via social media is barf articles at family in the hopes that they read
asciilifeform: mats: 'work' also inside the machine.
wilbns: mats: people will be employed to execute roles in cyberspace. telecommuting and working from home is the first step.
asciilifeform: (fucking assigned receptacle/inverse, as case may be, but seeing their idiotbook simulacrum at ~all~ times in the goggles)
wilbns: mats: thinking it is going to be three-dimensional, where you interact w/ your social network wearing some sort of oculus rift-themed devise in an alternate reality. people will choose that over this one. and then many will truly become ambivalent to things that are happening in "real" life
mats: 'in another 25 years'
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:35:23; phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea)
mats: if social networks as they exist nao are still a thing i will eat a bullet
asciilifeform: then again, a back door may be found for it to safely walk through, like google's employment not-iq-really-fuck-you-not-iq tests
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:39:32; mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is
wilbns: ...and what other things will be derived from social networks.
wilbns: 25 years ago there was no Facebook and a fledgling Internet - many people were still using a BBS or interacting with one another using AOL, CompuServe or Prodigy. A smartphone did not exist. It will be interesting in another 25 years to see the path of where things will go. I wonder if we were teleported there tomorrow if we would recognize it.
wilbns: ah, the grey area of profiling.
mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is
phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea)
assbot: That one with the eons. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K30Y6W )
mircea_popescu: here you go asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/that-one-with-the-eons/
trinque: I was utterly ignorant of lisp at the time
trinque: because the python was getting in the way of how I wanted to express it in language, of course
BingoBoingo: The only piece of "music software" I truly liked was "Noteworthy Composer"
asciilifeform: trinque: there are things that could be had today only if you were to recreate the world of yesterday.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: well fuck you renoise, I want just the drums and bass in this part
trinque: I've never killed renoise, but anyhow, my actual complaint is that I can't call arbitrary chunks of noise a function and reuse them
asciilifeform: was more or less superior in every way to the linked example.
asciilifeform: there is no modern equivalent.
trinque: they seem *almost* right
imsaguy: Its amazing the amount of vitriol that is out there amongst people that probably don't even know the real difference between the two forks.
BingoBoingo: Not bad. Just stuffing cotton towels in social media toilets, taking a shit, and flushing them.
asciilifeform to this day considers any programming environment that can't display a full reference to the language on demand, optionally searchable by keyword at current cursor, to be inferior
phf: ha, i remember we opted to use turbopascal for some programming olympiada and made a terrible mess out of it. basically were expect to come in some place, but we couldn't even finish the program
asciilifeform: delphi happened under winblowz and therefore for me never happened.
phf: being able to write pascal in delphi was like the right of passage for moscows programmer boys. i thought i was the shit with my dozen of delphi programmers until good folk at msu cmc unix room gently explained to me that i'm an idiot, told me to install freebsd and gave a copy of "programming in c language" by podbelsky and fomin. probably one the earliest books i've purchased still on my bookshelf
asciilifeform: these, one might add, are SELF-CONTAINED (with exception of msdos and occasional bios call.) no 'libraries'
asciilifeform: now why didn't this schmuck make the entries linkable
mircea_popescu: im going to end up the english language's foremost hack.
asciilifeform looks for the copy of 'gold bug' virus that some derp threw into swag and claimed as 'universal decompilator'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: (nothing at all to do with 'delphi') << this didn't stop me from looking up delphi of the 90's lol
BingoBoingo: He was in a physics phd program at one of the St Louis universities before he went to BitPay. At the time he contacted me I think he was still using a slave name.
BingoBoingo: One time Ryan X Charles before he adopted that name approached my IRL name to set up St Louis Bitcoin meetup and I told him I don't want to meet the sort of people that would live in St Louis an share his kind of interest in Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i do not credit this "nice people working for scammers" theory.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3gmn15/mining_for_comedy_gold_in_the_rbitcoin_corpus/ << the bruce fentonfail is pretty good lol
wilbns: growth rate as being something even more rapid and promising than PayPal total payments volume. It was then that I realized there were instances where people were potentially being mislead that the Blockchain total payments volume was actually Blockchain.info total payments volume.
wilbns: One time I was asked by Peter Smith to find early charts of PayPal total payments volume to compare to Blockchain Total Payments volume. Was told by Peter Smith that him and Nic Cary were in Silicon Valley meeting with former PayPal executives and venture capitalists (this was before they secured their raise), to whom they were comparing early Blockchain
BingoBoingo: wilbns: Blockchain.info went rogue soon after they took investment from the wrong crowd. Irreparible now.
wilbns: It's annoying, because there are some good and kind people who work at Blockchain.info, but there are some "not right" things going on at the top.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> could we instead accept 1% more fat each year ? << No. It breaks the BritneyChain
wilbns: That number counts users who have multiple wallet identifiers, and also algorithmically created via the API.
wilbns: Sorry, was saying "not true" in relation to the link.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No reason to bother with the voat cloudflare wall at all if you don't care to afflict the stupid
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It trolls Ycombinator's reddit. Otherwise worthless. I derp on it and egg on the controversy with dirty quarentine browser
BingoBoingo: Thank you Obamacare for giving this self identified Hamgalaxy a CPAP so she doesn't choke on the weight of her chest in her sleep https://archive.is/no0PJ
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is the point of that site.
BingoBoingo: Two consecutive days Qntra has been at the top of /v/bitcoin but to be fair this time it took all of 4 upvotes
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3hbdwl/the_work_left_undone/ << kinda lukewarm effort, but not bad bit-Coin polymorphic notationz.
mircea_popescu: idiots SHOULD be relieved of their burden.
asciilifeform: btw there is no reason known to me that the bulk of the supposed 6k nodez could not be the above.
BingoBoingo: "@petertoddbtc Why a /dev/ and not a call to the kernel for such matters? @EliteRaspberrie @dchest @zooko"
BingoBoingo: When did you get a mac thestringpuller
thestringpuller: didn't know if they committed to like a mac branch of gpg or something or its just all gui shit
thestringpuller: trinque: i installed it to use the command line tools. it's kinda akin to installing xcode to have clang to run a gcc like thing...
trinque: actcually makes for more cumbersome use than at the command line
mircea_popescu: ie, "we the people - goodword of today"
mircea_popescu: the notion that the group of redditards is "decentralized" is not unlike the proposition that salem at the time of the witch trials was "good christians".
thestringpuller: https://gpgtools.org << dunno how I feel about these guys yet but they accept bitcoin
asciilifeform: (i just like the title)
mircea_popescu: anyway. no, the "community" is not decentralized now, could not be decentralized in the future.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...how the fuck is a bunch of circlejerking derps, who don't even REALISE << with this here perl script, which emulates the lot of'em with a few pr0xies, how else
mircea_popescu: (the two are so strictly undistinct... omfg. us took 200 years to catch up to post-ww2 argentina)
mircea_popescu: certainly the source of the state in all its broken implementations to date, from nazi socialism and soviet socialism all the way to obama and peron populisms.
mircea_popescu: it is THE MOST centralized thing in both theory and practice. and probably the source of all others.
mircea_popescu: "I've mentioned this countless times but I think it's obvious that true consensus should be coming from the largest, decentralized group in the Bitcoin space: its users around the world." << how the fuck is a bunch of circlejerking derps, who don't even REALISE that google's been feeding them results tailored to their own stupidity for a decade, who think wikipedia is a source of knowledge and whose enjoyment mostly co
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> better than any government << from safe distance. right now, as i understand, they are in what '90s ru called 'initial capital allocation.' which tends to involve some mess - machine-gunning of whole hamlets to prove a point, etc
trinque: many of those types that I've known in Portland clearly hate themselves, and engage in all kinds of self-destructive behavior
asciilifeform: prolly one of those things that will never entirely disappear for so long as there are 'immunocompromised' decaying civilizations, etc
mircea_popescu: maybe not even then. "socialism was never really tried" etc.
mircea_popescu: i wonder, incidentally, how, when or if will the us-style feminist conceptualize that her notions of gender identity and female rights imposes a significant cost on the community, and as a result ensures a) its downfal and b) the mass rape of most females and some males dumb enough to have participated, deserved, as spoils of war.
trinque: people tend to protest the things that are most true, anyway
trinque: most Texans would protest that they'd fit well with Mexico, but I begin to see it
BingoBoingo: Sure, they want slaves and pubic furs.
BingoBoingo: Aztalan (modeling on Sinaloa) is not the "Homicide da Union" but a business like any other government.
mircea_popescu: the reason isis is such a problem is that they're not even comparable, but homologuous.
mircea_popescu: and cointrary to all the "hic sunt leones" anglo propaganda, the worst arabs are gonna do to you is in all likelyhood ask you to go further in, because you're too fairskinned to be this back in the mosq.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo not even for the income. mexican woman sees you like you see swedish teenager. << Meztizos want to be the new white race
mircea_popescu: nobody's sacrificing the white man cheer up yo.
asciilifeform: these were, presumably, female, aha
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not even for the income. mexican woman sees you like you see swedish teenager.
BingoBoingo: Aztlan loves white people, tis their sole source of income
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possible nuance is that aztlan has no use for the white man. except possibly as sacrifice
mircea_popescu: lol the sad stories of previous usians with pinoy sluts touched you huh