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(trilema) nubbins`: ^ pretty lelly video as well as article
(trilema) nubbins`: that's quite the tangram
(trilema) nubbins`: up next: 10 reasons why it's a bad idea to masturbate with a reciprocating saw
(trilema) nubbins`: and another explaining the dangers of tightly wrapping your macbook's power cord around the brick
(trilema) nubbins`: there's an article on how to properly wear a bike helmet
(trilema) nubbins`: just clicking through related articles on wired
(trilema) nubbins`: hence the derpiness of "how will we know the coins are funded?" regarding forthcoming self-funded coins
(trilema) nubbins`: not quite firstbits, but you can check the code against a published list
(trilema) nubbins`: yes, correct
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm about 70% of the way towards just giving you a coin to play with ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: once you get a handle on the font, even a fairly low-res image would narrow things down to a reasonable set of possibilities
(trilema) nubbins`: .1mm might be okay, y'know
(trilema) nubbins`: precise x,y,z control
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm imagining repurposing a 3d printer
(trilema) nubbins`: huh. yeah, apparently <$1k in parts
(trilema) nubbins`: with a needle and a piezo, srsly?
(trilema) nubbins`: i've got stacks of piezos
(trilema) nubbins`: a casascius spy coin, imagine
(trilema) nubbins`: i think the holo itself would shrivel long before the paper browns, but point remains the same. as long as you can keep the reverse (or is it obverse?) at room-ish temperature
(trilema) nubbins`: and nobody wanted to potentially flush a couple btc down the drain experimenting
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, i think the main reason nobody's tried slicing and dicing casascius coins until now is because the premiums were always so goddamn high
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, no. similar.
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, is this even the same goddamn tech?
(trilema) nubbins`: lee valley is a wondrous place for tinkerers and fiddlers
(trilema) nubbins`: i've seen ones that will run off the temp differential between the top of the stove and the ambient air
(trilema) nubbins`: the air in the room :D
(trilema) nubbins`: well, when these unfunded coins start hitting the market, i bet there's going to be some experimenting going on
(trilema) nubbins`: my folks have a propane fireplace, but the fan obv doesn't circulate the heat when the power goes
(trilema) nubbins`: i was looking at peltier fans the other day, actually
(trilema) nubbins`: uh huh. right. sorry, no coffee yet today
(trilema) nubbins`: regardless, there'd still be enormous heat transfer to the paper, no?
(trilema) nubbins`: it cannot survive comfortably at the melt point of brass
(trilema) nubbins`: that's a bit different, paper can survive comfortably at 100C
(trilema) nubbins`: it's just paper
(trilema) nubbins`: would be tough to not roast the private key
(trilema) nubbins`: you're telling me you can half a coin along its height and reattach it?
(trilema) nubbins`: holo untouched, metal butchered
(trilema) nubbins`: just metal
(trilema) nubbins`: wait the other side of what?
(trilema) nubbins`: the pubkey
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm itching to try a few things, but i don't want to ruin a bunch of coins
(trilema) nubbins`: freeze it off!
(trilema) nubbins`: common solvents ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: oh sorry, it's a wolf head
(trilema) nubbins`: lel 80yo woman with teddy bear hat walked up the road
(trilema) nubbins`: why not just press wax against the seal to dupe it?
(trilema) nubbins`: seems trivial
(trilema) nubbins`: but soldered together?
(trilema) nubbins`: so like a picture charm?
(trilema) nubbins`: and whether the resolution is great enough
(trilema) nubbins`: there was a discussion about etched keys and medical imaging equipment
(trilema) nubbins`: well, short people can only raise a bar so high, y'know
(trilema) nubbins`: like, the ceo can't even pay extra for a better plan?
(trilema) nubbins`: regardless of premiums paid?
(trilema) nubbins`: that's ostensibly very egalitarian, got my doubts it'll work that way in practice
(trilema) nubbins`: even us canadians don't take it that far.
(trilema) nubbins`: it's like if you found a sexy woman whose pussy was coded in ASM or something.
(trilema) nubbins`: the appeal for me is that i'm into coin collecting anyway
(trilema) nubbins`: a truly rare gem is a 2011 1btc WITHOUT a hologram error.
(trilema) nubbins`: in fact, 1btc holo error coins are maybe one of the more common sorts.
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform, that's the infamous "hologram error" that noobs believe makes the coins more valuable
(trilema) nubbins`: would probably fetch a higher price than my idea for bespoke public key shirts, too
(trilema) nubbins`: "this hologram is not fake"
(trilema) nubbins`: it didn't even use the same font
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform: and yet the only fakes i've seen have been brutally obvious
(trilema) nubbins`: "shit, i've got two bellheads now!"
(trilema) nubbins`: that was a mirror ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: these new ones will still come with holos
(trilema) nubbins`: "things are different, my thinker doesn't work anymore"
(trilema) nubbins`: plenty of forum rage, "how am i supposed to know the coins are funded! who do i trust!" etc
(trilema) nubbins`: "you send me x+y coins, i keep y coins, mail you shiny metal, then send x coins to your shiny metal"
(trilema) nubbins`: mp, not sure why he didn't do this in the first place.
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't have a third hand to do a triple-facepalm, so i'm using the table
(trilema) nubbins`: so much comment fail
(trilema) nubbins`: "But how do you know that the privkey inside matches the public key part? And how do you know the privkey wasn't copied by someone before being sold to you? This thing is far less secure than a downloaded paper wallet!"
(trilema) nubbins`: wow, he actually did wear a colander on his head
(trilema) nubbins`: might as well be a stack of $100 bills
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ a square peg, if small enough, will fit into a round hole
(trilema) nubbins`: any osx users here?
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, i submitted a fix and they applied it almost immediately
(trilema) nubbins`: i reported a gaping CSRF vuln on havelock last year
(trilema) nubbins`: that's with both lines on the front tho, extra cost if you want it split back & front ;(
(trilema) nubbins`: deadweasel: 0.06 btc and it's yours
(trilema) nubbins`: imagine the nightmare of transcribing that
(trilema) nubbins`: need to catch the light to see the pubkey
(trilema) nubbins`: black ink on a black shirt, even
(trilema) nubbins`: i was just floating the idea of bespoke t-shirts with one's public pgp key printed on the front
(trilema) nubbins`: what's new
(trilema) nubbins`: but surprisingly economical if you order even just two
(trilema) nubbins`: probably the nerdiest t-shirt i can think of
(trilema) nubbins`: t-shirts with public keys printed on them, think there's a market?
(trilema) nubbins`: side note, "nub" is a synonym of "pith"
(trilema) nubbins`: it's not that hard to pull off.
(trilema) nubbins`: to a point, this original definition still fits
(trilema) nubbins`: at one time, an idiot was one who was unconcerned with public affairs
(trilema) nubbins`: one form of it, yes
(trilema) nubbins`: turns out the power-hungry aren't necessarily the best people to be placed in positions of power
(trilema) nubbins`: democracy came about as a way for power-hungry low-borns to claw their way to the top
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1: perhaps the biggest lel of modern history
(trilema) nubbins`: what's one to do, tho
(trilema) nubbins`: lower grade + bulk purchasing
(trilema) nubbins`: power plant burns #6
(trilema) nubbins`: oil furnaces in homes burn #1 or #2 fuel oil
(trilema) nubbins`: when selling a house, oil heat is a huge negative these days
(trilema) nubbins`: today, an oil furnace will bleed your wallet dry over the course of a winter
(trilema) nubbins`: well, a generation ago, 90% of new builds had oil furnaces
(trilema) nubbins`: "You won't see me crying when the power goes out. It's your own responsibility to keep warm, that's yourself and the vulnerable, so just deal with it. It's not the government's fault."
(trilema) nubbins`: relevant quote from "survivorman" les stroud:
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, capacity was last upgraded in 1989
(trilema) nubbins`: that's what, one step away from crude?
(trilema) nubbins`: #6 fuel oil
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, i was mistaken, that plant burns oil
(trilema) nubbins`: today, you have communities setting up "warming centres" when the lights go out
(trilema) nubbins`: throw another log in the wood stove
(trilema) nubbins`: a generation ago, nobody gave a fuck when the lights went out
(trilema) nubbins`: and the same 35-40yo coal generating plant pumping out the kWs
(trilema) nubbins`: and 90% of new builds use electric for the primary heat source
(trilema) nubbins`: compounded by the fact that there are a lot of "McMansions" being built by those who made their fortunes in the oil and gas industry
(trilema) nubbins`: YOU'D THINK
(trilema) nubbins`: average is ~60
(trilema) nubbins`: we received i think 140cm of snow in december, without any melt
(trilema) nubbins`: TBF the weather did play a small role in the availability. all supplies are brought here by boat
(trilema) nubbins`: well, the need for fuel wasn't visible for many until substations started exploding
(trilema) nubbins`: generally "scalping" doesn't happen here, so there's that, at least
(trilema) nubbins`: the20year: costs remain constant, availability doesn't :)
(trilema) nubbins`: much easier to complain about shortages than to address the fact that they caused said shortages by rushing to stock up on fuel when the outages begin
(trilema) nubbins`: but few will admit their complete failure to plan for the unexpected
(trilema) nubbins`: in fact, the lack of planning was on the part of the citizens
(trilema) nubbins`: tell the citizens that
(trilema) nubbins`: companies blame weather conditions, citizens blame complacency and lack of planning/foresight
(trilema) nubbins`: propane shortages since early december
(trilema) nubbins`: needless to say, you can't buy a generator or a bottle of kerosene here at the moment
(trilema) nubbins`: repair time for a downed line? 1 month
(trilema) nubbins`: hydro megaproject is actually located in mainland canada, connected to the island by undersea cables and then above-ground cables passing through a mountain range
(trilema) nubbins`: the rolling outages started this winter and are expected to continue for the next four winters
(trilema) nubbins`: largest coal plant on the island is ~10 years beyond expiry date
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, real boondoggle
(trilema) nubbins`: massive hydro project coming online in "2017", will increase rates dramatically for us while providing cheaper electricity to other provinces and american markets
(trilema) nubbins`: some hydro
(trilema) nubbins`: well, mostly coal-fired
(trilema) nubbins`: 11 cents here, all coal-fired
(trilema) nubbins`: either still with folks or in a house with 3-6 others
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, you don't find many single young people living on their own here
(trilema) nubbins`: to be fair, that's maybe the most vulnerable to regional variation
(trilema) nubbins`: how about electricity, $/kWh?
(trilema) nubbins`: with some hardship, sure, but what do you expect
(trilema) nubbins`: cost of living is generally calibrated towards min wage, more or less
(trilema) nubbins`: 5 years ago you could rent the same place for 450-500
(trilema) nubbins`: rents for a 1br apartment start around 7-800
(trilema) nubbins`: gas is $1.30-$1.50 a liter
(trilema) nubbins`: hop on a ferry and it's maybe $5/gallon for milk
(trilema) nubbins`: ~$4.50 for two liters, although being on an island with few cows, it's understandably more costly than mainland canada
(trilema) nubbins`: going by a loaf of bread, that 150 bucks would be about $525/mo here
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, so let's see
(trilema) nubbins`: (store-bought, natch)
(trilema) nubbins`: to calibrate, what's a loaf of bread cost?
(trilema) nubbins`: so you can't get paid to sit on your ass your entire life?
(trilema) nubbins`: marginally worthless pulling their own weight -- is this before welfare became a thing?
(trilema) nubbins`: pros and cons. the uninspired continue to be uninspired
(trilema) nubbins`: it's practically canadian culture at this point
(trilema) nubbins`: HEH. you should visit a high school here.
(trilema) nubbins`: although i always had the impression that eastern europeans didn't bother too much with the softer drugs
(trilema) nubbins`: something like 50-60% of canadians admit to smoking marijuana
(trilema) nubbins`: what's the story on casual drug use in romania, anyway?
(trilema) nubbins`: well that's just being sloppy
(trilema) nubbins`: "must have been those pill heads, they hate me and they're into drugs"
(trilema) nubbins`: if anything, the fact that i've complained about my pill-head neighbours so many times would lend much credence to my story, should i be caught with a package full of drugs in my mailbox
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, judges here are generally practical people who realize that they live in the real world
(trilema) nubbins`: possibly to jail
(trilema) nubbins`: so for the cost of a stamp and a couple of pills, you can send someone to trial
(trilema) nubbins`: or do they!
(trilema) nubbins`: and the pillheads go off to jail
(trilema) nubbins`: the prosecutor's argument is that a frame job is ludicrous
(trilema) nubbins`: the pill-heads defense is that someone is framing them
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't have a defense, i'm not in the picture
(trilema) nubbins`: you could fit 1000 hits of LSD in an envelope
(trilema) nubbins`: you always could
(trilema) nubbins`: it's only a few pills. a padded envelope and a stamp will do.
(trilema) nubbins`: no, of course not
(trilema) nubbins`: small inconvenience if i want my pillhead neighbours out of my hair
(trilema) nubbins`: so i drive 20 minutes to a post office in the next community
(trilema) nubbins`: what, people don't send mail inter-city?
(trilema) nubbins`: doesnt matter the origin
(trilema) nubbins`: it came from the same city, even.
(trilema) nubbins`: call the cops again and say "i heard them talking about receiving a shipment of pills in the mail"
(trilema) nubbins`: so i throw some pills into a box, write their address on the front, stick it in the mail
(trilema) nubbins`: oh yeah, several times
(trilema) nubbins`: cops are there more frequently than houseguests
(trilema) nubbins`: because they smash bottles in the road all the time.
(trilema) nubbins`: let's suppose i hate my pill-head neighbours
(trilema) nubbins`: replace politician with neighbour, key of coke with handful of LSD
(trilema) nubbins`: what's stopping me from mailing a key to one of them and then tipping off the cops?
(trilema) nubbins`: no, but i know several of them
(trilema) nubbins`: consider that one could send a kilo of cocaine to a reviled politician
(trilema) nubbins`: heh. just a thought experiment, but all the elements of plausible deniability are there
(trilema) nubbins`: "they didn't even get my name right!"
(trilema) nubbins`: purchaser shrugs, says "how can i control who sends me packages?"
(trilema) nubbins`: cops burst in, guns drawn
(trilema) nubbins`: package arrives, is brought indoors and left on a table, unopened
(trilema) nubbins`: nah, bought. purchaser slightly misspells their name when placing an order
(trilema) nubbins`: this was the classic "cover your ass" tactic of those who bought illegal items on SR and other websites
(trilema) nubbins`: you mentioned earlier about the inability to refuse payments to a published address
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, interesting instruments, SSWs, and this should be illuminating text for current and future holders of such instruments
(trilema) nubbins`: (not much)
(trilema) nubbins`: i live in a commonwealth country, caselaw is all we have ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: in further issuances
(trilema) nubbins`: it may be worth clarifying some of these points
(trilema) nubbins`: have had a few nibbles
(trilema) nubbins`: (this was my original intention anyway)
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, okay
(trilema) nubbins`: i took it to mean that S.MG would only issue the shares to an account with the same fingerprint as the SSW
(trilema) nubbins`: well, it's an ambiguous statement.
(trilema) nubbins`: no mention in the SSW
(trilema) nubbins`: no account, no redemption
(trilema) nubbins`: so there's an implied, but not stated, 30BTC charge for redeeming an SSW
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