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mircea_popescu: <ag3nt_zer0> i said "no i'm not" << the one remarkable quality of six year olds is how quickly they can transform adults, even if specially trained, into other six year olds :D
kakobrekla: there are a few traders
gernika: I think I asked the wrong question actually - but I'm not sure how to put it in terms of causes instead of purposes.
ag3nt_zer0: so , no, it shouldnt be made to work and yes it makes sense thatr the kids are fucking retarded
ag3nt_zer0: depnds on if the teacher has anything of value to pass on i suppose
gernika: I wonder what is the sane mode of behavior for a child stuck in the public school system? Perhaps to make it work it actually is necessary to hit them and yell at them, but should it be made to work?
ag3nt_zer0: its really just the living reflection of their ugly-minded parents
trinque: a dead body goes through all sorts of stages of rot, none of them reversible
ag3nt_zer0: anyway, Im in it for the money
ag3nt_zer0: and I think i mentioned it earlier about the "positive discipline" plan these pussies follow... no raising of voice, no calling out kids on the spot, in other words all things that pput them in their place and establish that heirarchy are now "abusive" and outmoded because tradition = dumb - or whatever
ag3nt_zer0: yeah wahst done with them
ag3nt_zer0: no more school, ever, for them
trinque: what's done with them is the question
trinque: sure, there were spoiled children as there were turds throughout time
thestringpuller: and this cant be a localized phenomenon in time and space there should be spoiled children throughout history and in many different places
ag3nt_zer0: and all the admins running around alerting me to the endless list of "allergies" and sensitivity and "spectrum" issues that the little shits with their sick mothers dream up in the organic med aisle at whole foods
trinque: not being paid attention to constantly is the most horrible thing that can happen to a person!
thestringpuller: i know plenty of parents who came from the "the hood" and spoil their children now that they are well off
trinque: when you have to shit, you just shit through the bottom of the cage
thestringpuller: the spoiled phenomenon is a matter of circumstance in my opinion
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: when the food thing is empty, you scream
trinque googles trilema anal child, is shocked to find that every result lacks the word trilema
ag3nt_zer0: the kid says, age 6, "you are insulting me"
ag3nt_zer0: this fucking kid yesterday: I have him count sing this simple 4-beat card - he does a pretty good job which I greet, perhaps shameful in restrospect, with enthusiasm... and then i say, "the only thing I would suggest could be better is holding the beats all the way through"
ag3nt_zer0: you know, i am thankful to have the chance to whisper some renegade think-for-yourselfisms into the impressionable ears of kids, through music nonetheless, but dude it doesn't take long in these classrooms to realize how fucked this country is by virtue of how undisciplined/spoiled rotten these kids are - relative to the soberness of student bodies in say china or india...
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: hey there going alright thx. just gettin home from the work
kakobrekla: and the square brackets.
mircea_popescu: wow, i thought the k-hole was some sort of play on r/K selection
moonpunter: was the + needless?
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mircea_popescu: on the topic of falling into holes, the ability to back up the shit one comes up with being like the #1 requirement of manhood.
kakobrekla: run the command on chan
moonpunter: still saying not valid, but as you can see in that link, i've uploaded the key...
trinque: I am well aquainted with the fake CEOs of the fake software industry, haha
trinque: streams are crossed; I was talking about the hot lady on the film set.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> ah, then I don't follow << They "shell out" for macbooks the same way hamplanets do for "king ranch" credit
trinque: ah, then I don't follow
mircea_popescu: what shell out? how many usians do you know that EVER owed 3k free and clear, in their hands ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: hm, yeah. the advantage of being able to drop a jaw by merely existing?
mircea_popescu: the usa you live in, much like the argentina i live in, is wholly made up of people who buy the fucking yearl agendas on time.
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 20:11:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253407 << you blessfully ignore the part where THEY CAN BARELY AFFORD A CHAIR. you understand this, do you ? the schmucks that are "ceo"s and whatnot, can barely afford their own breakfast ? the reason airbnb HAS TO exist is because if they can't sleep on each other's bike rags they can't "go to conferences" and prop up the whole word cloud ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253499 << dunno which usa mircea_popescu was thinking of, but the one i live in contains bozos who shell out for $3k 'macbooks' etc.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, why the fat stupoid failures that protest lost before the game even begun.
mircea_popescu: this is also ~why~ you put young women on the fucking stilts and back them against the wall.
mircea_popescu: trinque which is why the man is humble, and squinting. he sees what you see and wonders how to go about it.
BingoBoingo: That's fair' I didn't even read the whole thing either
trinque now notices the differences in posture
mircea_popescu: look at the narrow uneven shit she stands on, even
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trinque: how dare anyone suggest otherwise, in fact.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly the woman's problem, you know, how to not get fucked. seriously.
mircea_popescu: (do not click the above if you have any reason to suspect the glass in your monitor is weak)
mircea_popescu: and yes this was an actual thing. behold the president/initiator : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Alice_Reighly.jpg
ascii_field: still pissed they don't exist in usa
ascii_field: it was ~the~ battery to me, aha
mircea_popescu: tar was still used for insulation in 4.5V batteries when i was a kid. and the cells were paper wrapped.
ascii_field: it took more than one electrocuted drunk to drive the point home
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvg3c82oor24qNHcho1_500.jpg << people had trouble with the celltowers of 1915, too.
mircea_popescu: (those reasons being chiefly that woman comes with fully formed ovules pre-packaged. an ovary is essentially a bunch of candy-wrapped m&ms, and her period consists of one of those wrappers being torn. whereas a male comes with a sperm CREATION mechanism. so if the male is damaged, the male is out. if the female is damaged she'll just ovulate a different skittle.)
mircea_popescu: (and how convenient she's female - i'd like to see someone keep a 19yo guy pinned down with the old folks for six weeks.)
mircea_popescu: the girl (i think it's a girl ?) setting the table does not shit ? why's she get a plate then ?
ascii_field: they put equally magical 'non-shitting princess'
mircea_popescu: but they didn't.
ascii_field: let's also put a flying unicorn in the picture.
mircea_popescu: but in the picture
ascii_field: nobody sleeps in the fucking cot. the husband, if he's lucky, bangs secretary in that cot.
ascii_field: so there is the imaginary reality of the sales pitch, but a separate physical reality of what these were used for.
mircea_popescu: sure. but specifically what interests me there is, which two sleep in the same cot.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is no deep secret that the 'shelter industry' was largely part cargo-cult, part 'i wanna build a wine cellar without wife bitching'
mircea_popescu: and no. just look at all the "Whitegoods" and the proliferation thereof. usians love item count like they love their absent virility.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field how much shit is produced in six weeks by a group of three people ? not counting the water it flushes with, just the shit.
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 20:35:43; mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvg8ruhzlh5Q7AHg9o1_1280.jpg << all sorts of interesting assumptions in there, such as "the toiletries don't matter because we don't like to think about them, being puritans" ; or "even plants need multiple times their mass in nutrients over extended periods, but you'll fit your stuff in ONE cupboard alright". this all doiesn't much interest me, because while obvious
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253511 << these hidey-holes were meant to house people for ~six weeks, while the hottest fallout clears
ascii_field: and i'm not speaking of junkyard iron, either, but brand-new
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 20:37:00; mircea_popescu: mats i don't see a way to implement his scheme as anything but running dozens of machines to replace my desktop. which, in fairness, was one of the proposed approaches back in the 70s.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253515 << if speaking of existing hardware, there is no shortage of 'computers' which cost pocket change and each can run just about anything one might care to
mats: systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult
mircea_popescu: in short : contrary to what peoiple think, there is no actual scope for decisionmaking in systems design.
mircea_popescu: you could in principle then just have a dedicated process for single task networking.
mircea_popescu: networking is chiefly multitasking because of the way it's implemented. but even in systems built to mt, there's a dedicated box added outside.
mircea_popescu: to this day the array scans.
mats: how does anybody meaningfully build on e.g. 'msdos' when it has only one operating mode, is purposed for a 'single-task', and doesn't blow up when some level of the abstraction (that by any reasonable person could be reasoned as multi-task if it is to do anything useful, e.g, graphics, networking, file system access!!1) has a bug in it?
mircea_popescu: mats i don't see a way to implement his scheme as anything but running dozens of machines to replace my desktop. which, in fairness, was one of the proposed approaches back in the 70s.
mircea_popescu: which of these three*
mircea_popescu: , it was certainly entirely obscure to the target. one point however was not : three people, two beds. so did they assume the immature human naturally sleeps in bed with her father or mother ? which of those two individuals aren't really separate in the thoughts of the intended viewer ?
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvg8ruhzlh5Q7AHg9o1_1280.jpg << all sorts of interesting assumptions in there, such as "the toiletries don't matter because we don't like to think about them, being puritans" ; or "even plants need multiple times their mass in nutrients over extended periods, but you'll fit your stuff in ONE cupboard alright". this all doiesn't much interest me, because while obvious to anyone thinking
mats: shall we boot up a machine for every x server of every gui-level application we wish to run, because there is no such thing yet as gui-level isolation?
mats: i suppose we should define terminology, then: what does it mean for something to be 'single-task'? what abstraction level is non-arbitrary (or appropriate)?
kakobrekla: > the schmucks that are "ceo"s and whatnot, can barely afford their own breakfast ? < http://ads.newsbtc.com/www/images/43a8dcd005175d58a21a6d878f649391.gif
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 18:23:50; ascii_field: trinque: specifically concerning process separation - the thing to do with existing machines is - 1 per task.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253407 << you blessfully ignore the part where THEY CAN BARELY AFFORD A CHAIR. you understand this, do you ? the schmucks that are "ceo"s and whatnot, can barely afford their own breakfast ? the reason airbnb HAS TO exist is because if they can't sleep on each other's bike rags they can't "go to conferences" and prop up the whole word cloud ?
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 18:18:04; mats: this represents such a regression in so many ways i am unable to count them
moonpunter: the computer store up the block charged less for a 25 foot cable than to simply put the adapter on for me. annoying. came home and immediately bought a $8 tool off ebay.
mircea_popescu: but i'm more curious about how you view the vietnam thing in your own experience.
mircea_popescu: moonpunter that part for sure. then again his target aren't intelligent people, nor any people likely to try and think the matter through independently.
mircea_popescu: i suspect many laptops are sold in the manner of printers. except you pay for "service" instead of "cartridges"
moonpunter: i just think he's ridiculous to take offense to people using a term he himself introduced. anyone with half a brain would never use a term like that and expect an intelligent group to not dissect and then turn it around on them.
kakobrekla: which usually cost more than the lappy itself
mircea_popescu: nobody's sitting there with an amp meter and a soldering iron.
mircea_popescu: this is what they do you realise, order replacement parts ?
mircea_popescu: can't find the part ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: no repair shop does anything other than what you normally do with desktops << I couldn't readily repair this one at home
mircea_popescu: moonpunter aha! so you dispute the summary ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253375 << it is formally simple. which is what he means by "easy", but also what easy eminently is not. formally simplest is always the hardest.
mircea_popescu: and in fact no mitigation thingee out there does anything else.
mircea_popescu: mats / ascii_field the dispute you're engaged in looks to me like a failure to agree upon terminology. alf thinks in terms of "competent user". mitigation as generally discussed thinks in term of "usg-spawned monkey which was allowed at a keyboard for no conceivable reason". in this later case, hotgluing the usb hole is a valid mitigation technique.
mircea_popescu: but hey, the closed box folks managed to wrest an entire business space away from the user with the shitty screws./
mircea_popescu: no repair shop does anything other than what you normally do with desktops
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 16:06:31; punkman: from the business in Luxor department.
mircea_popescu: moonpunter mike is too young to know exactly what is the fate of being in the us army. how you get bombed silly from all directions while trying to follow nonsensical directives.
mircea_popescu: and THIS point MUST be actually verified in practice. and not only once, either.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile bitcoin is still not for the poor, they can dance until they fall over for all the good it's gonna do.
mircea_popescu: because "everywhere is here!!11" and so yeah, totally, astro turfing, "the controversy", "moving the window" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is that the usg is so very fucking convinced all the bs stuff it's powered by works in bitcoin too
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 14:29:09; fluffypony: yeah, but BIP 100 is still the lesser of two evils
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253304 << let them fragment. nobody cares, and no, neither is going to actually get implemented.
moonpunter: i find it ironic that mike hearn is taking issue with people using the word "dictators" although he was originally the one who suggested that gavin be a benevolent dictator
moonpunter: in the meantime
mircea_popescu: and jesus god trilema comments are something else. at the same time there's a woman telling me how incredibly right i was, and some derp telling me how incredibly wrong ~i'm going to be~. pointless and witless on parade, neverending, eternal.
moonpunter: i just uploaded it there a few minutes ago. probably have to wait a bit.
kakobrekla: as for the search, i know of at least one reasons that it should be resynced fully
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Major props on the cloning effort
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Congratulations on the spawn! :D
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gernika: BingoBoingo: not sure if "compromise" vs. "comprise" was intentional or not. Also seems like the sentence starting with "As particulars..." is missing something. re: http://qntra.net/2015/08/many-pools-rejecting-xt-in-favor-of-other-undefined-fork/
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253235 << the americans who stopped the guy shooting up a train in france received their legion of honor medals in...
trinque: *of the
trinque: or the person sitting with a serial terminal allowing or denying messages enter/exit the system
trinque: I can see that point; we spoke of the human fuel gauge scenario recently
ascii_field: trinque: specifically concerning process separation - the thing to do with existing machines is - 1 per task.
trinque: obviously rendering the thing mitigated impossible is better.
trinque: but isn't that right there in the word "mitigation"
trinque: speaking as a fool, this seems like two gentlemen talking entirely at crossways. on the one hand, what do I do with all these monstrous linux machines I'm already using? (perhaps tape, if you have nothing else) and on the other hand, what would I build to replace the whole mess
ascii_field: it is of course much easier to drink shit while mumbling mitigat^H^H^Hincantations to the gods
mats: this represents such a regression in so many ways i am unable to count them
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ascii_field: 'folks still understandably want to drink water wherever they find it, and not have to walk far to the shitter'
ascii_field: mats: picture if you had the unenviable task of teaching africans not to drink their own shit. now imagine you show up at the village and say, 'one must dig latrine pit on other side of the village from the well'. and they answer,
mats: despite living in a world where there are many computers to a person, folks still understandably want to be able to run more than a single application per computer
ascii_field: not to mention that 'msdos security' - if the thing is used as prescribed, single-task, non-networked apparatus - is very hard to beat.
mats: i'm bowled over by the thought that you believe that e.g. the 'msdos' security model is a good idea
ascii_field: mats: i have often named historical examples of 'fits in head.' but you choose to ignore them. why ?
mats: because the way i see it, the thing that you describe maintains fluid form precisely to resist any kind of meaningful description
ascii_field: why should i let you set the ground rules ? i understand how transistor works, how vlsi is carried out; how to build cpu. why should i accept the idiocy soup as the bedrock abstraction ?
ascii_field: how many bits of info it would take to teach a martian to build a copy of the machine.
mats: what then? klocs?
mats: or rather, an inability to
mats: and then there's the much less measurable thing i presume you're talking about, which is those leaks that result from 'fits in head'
mats: the whole of the kernel's static call graph, and all possible entry points an attacker can utilize
mats: there is a quantitative approach that can be taken, lets say:
ascii_field: variably. but yes, they do.
ascii_field: everything that i might ever need to be exposed to to understand the whole of the system.
mats: does this exclude all of the compile time stuff?
ascii_field: mats: that's easy: any and all of them which add complexity
ascii_field: mats: i know what they are nominally about, yes
mats: anyway... [2015-04-02 16:59:20] <asciilifeform> mats: i can trivially make mincemeat of this by issuing raw dma cycles. << UDEREF is about exploitation, not constraining the kernel
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punkman: from the business in Luxor department.
punkman: I went, agreed to price that was approaching cost of laptop, then he passes me a fucking form to fill out. "I'm not leaving the machine here, I have to be present" "oh never mind then, I can't help you".
punkman: so this morning I call the closest laptop repair shop off the yellow pages, tell the guy I need so-and-so repaired and X,Y,Z removed. "you should come by so I can take a look at it", "I can come by this afternoon, will you have time to work on it while I'm there?" "yes".
kakobrekla: ofc there that difference of talking the path and walking the path.
thestringpuller: Not getting anally expanded at all is the ideal solution. Although it reminds me of the South Park game where you have to give Randy a fake abortion in which you abort one of his turds as to prove you are a doctor and he is a lady getting an abortion. Don't think this relevant...but you know.
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 17:26:07; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the chinese are actually fucktarded enough to allow usg to not get its wish but nevertheless move the window in not getting it, we'll probably not only de-thread it but rewrite the whole sheband, and with a better pow algo at that.
asciilifeform: fluffypony: in the same sense as being anally expanded with a baseball bat is lesser evil vs. same with telephone pole
fluffypony: yeah, but BIP 100 is still the lesser of two evils
asciilifeform: srsly, the good cop/bad cop algo in use with the two 'bips' couldn't be more obvious
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253275 << somebody could achieve great lulz by making a similar poster, featuring just as many folks who have raped usg and are still laughing all the way to the bank - the 'indicted' chinese army folks, bogachev, buncha others
mircea_popescu: r a ride with some guy who doesn't know that's what you call it when you "push pedals in the car and stuff". what could possibly go wrong, other than everything (and you'll get blamed for it).
mircea_popescu: "This will quickly change if you are one of us." << heh, check it out, dude wants slaves an' doesn't even know it. because a) slavery is not a thing in the us, right, the idea just came to him out of nowhere, not out of watching the sv muppets and making the next teeeny tinsy incremental stop and b) it's a really fucking great idea to go slave for a dude that doesn't even know that's what it is. 2nd best after going fo
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thought bitcoin.com was not a cheap scam at any point.
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mircea_popescu: isn't the world ant tea-rarium ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: admittedly i have precious little notion of what these folks expect. what does ant expect under the magifying glass ?
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> pierce something-or-other << Also the Wagner guy
BingoBoingo: Eh, I went back and read the "don't run bitcoin on a VPS because you will get bounced for CPU usage"
asciilifeform: pierce something-or-other
asciilifeform: l0l i thought there was just that one
mircea_popescu: eh, get out of here. you should have been here earlier, back when someone being in btc was 50-50 they're pedos too.
BingoBoingo: They are definitely a bug satoshi missed when he wrote up mining attached nodes.
asciilifeform: and they're a bug not merely in the hearnia-enabling sense. but in a philosophical sense - dollars to doughnuts it was the existence of the pool, of derps-mattering-in-the-aggregate-and-knowing-it, that bred many of the socio-psychiatric ills of 2011-present btc
bekusoraru: my segway does 120 vert. i fucked the landing, now i am hurt.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt, << it was defeated ?!
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> "addr" : "128.8.124.7:34971" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/" << elaine shi & co
BingoBoingo: "addr" : "128.8.124.7:34971" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/"
BingoBoingo: I mean there's unknown reddit derps including a few who shilled for mining scams before.
BingoBoingo: Lotta atroturf, few actual names I've cared to remember beyond the two An heroes for XT's cause
mircea_popescu: because fuck your stupid mother, you idiot you.
mircea_popescu: a you know what ? i'm putting murck in there.
BingoBoingo: There's also the letter of 8 companies sharing a bunch of VC's who wrote about supporting XT without saying XT
BingoBoingo: Well Conde Nast et al in the media
BingoBoingo: Ver barred entry in much the way I am barred exit (for nao)
BingoBoingo: No, I'm more concerned with suggesting the stingray getting its rape on.
mircea_popescu: obviously he'd be in there. suggest whom i might have overlooked.
mircea_popescu: so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt,
BingoBoingo: Well, china is DDoSing them again...
BingoBoingo: "The page isn't redirecting properly"
mircea_popescu: they dumped it, after which they fixed two typos in five weeks.
asciilifeform: because 100btc were lying on the pavement in those days...
asciilifeform: (and no, restoring the contents, once they are resoldered onto something built for the occasion, is not trivial - need to reconstruct the 'wear-leveling' scheme)
mats: and then?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what one does in such a case is to lift the nands
kakobrekla: if you think the trick with replacing the controller with another from same model will work - it will not.
trinque: I found out about bitcoin when a friend of mine mentioned he'd lost 136 on an encrypted hard drive for which he lost the keys.
BingoBoingo too the asocial introduction to BTC route as well
mircea_popescu: the soviets did outright steal from the various coops, entreprises scl towards the end
asciilifeform: and the fact that ~something~ must be said,
mats: 750k shouldn't even sting. in fact, i'd think their stock _would go up_ following the closure of the matter and such a light settlement
asciilifeform: reminds me of my crackpot hypothesis that the 47 megabux '419sp4mz0red away' by ubiquiti corp. is actually a secret fine levied by nsa star chamber
asciilifeform: '750k plus a light tap by the fed on the brake pedal'
mats: curiously, INTC took a ~10% dive in the two weeks following the publication of 'Intel Subsidiary Agrees to 750k Penalty for Unauthorized Encryption Exports'
mircea_popescu: next to wal-fart, the largest employer in america!
asciilifeform: get the walrus-skin binding, if available.
mircea_popescu: you probably read the fucking eskimo book of the dead, on occasion.
asciilifeform reads their logz on occasion
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mircea_popescu: ;;google "Oh, and next time you trash and break a Segway in Vienna that Alex paid for because some fat girl offers you a hug...DONT RUN AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEGWAY IN THE STREET!!!!!! (true story for whoever wants to know. Roger, Erik and myself were there)"
mircea_popescu: there's this ancient segway story from the early days of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: <mats> did the animu touch you in a bad place << bwahaha
phf: asciilifeform: it's a cargo cult. my understanding is that japanese use manga as illustrated prose. situation with japanese culture in u.s. american u.s. culture around anime/manga is essentially "let's read furniture assembly manuals, then read some yukio mishima, then watch cellphone instructional video for 12 yr/old girls, because superior culture of japan!"
asciilifeform: and, iirc, earlier, involvement with the sco scumbags
asciilifeform: mats: you know what they're famous for, no ?
assbot: Looks like the product in question is Wind River Linux, a product of a subsidiar... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOK483 )
asciilifeform: though somewhat surprising that they have any involvement with a linux at all
mats: re: grsec post, apparently the offending corporation is Intel
asciilifeform: phf: my current understanding is that there are 2 basic types of 'anime'
phf: yeah, the whole "nerd culture" bait and switch. i watched some anime growing up, mostly because cyberpunk, ghost in the shell, armitage, akira, so when moved here was somehow was also expected to enjoy shit like evangelion or what's that one with rubber guy
trinque: I rather enjoy it when done well, not that I've seen that many.
mats: did the animu touch you in a bad place

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