mats: my boss was a master instructor for the raven, 'military-grade UAS'
thestringpuller: I could tell as soon as I read the nonsense you post about Blockstream
thestringpuller: i consider myself part of the internet mob
thestringpuller: Maybe there is hope yet:
ascii_field: hardening detects a faulty signature, does not write the result to a caller-provided buffer, returns an error.'
ascii_field: 'Some servers occasionally or consistently produce ServerKeyExchange messages which contain RSA signatures which are zero. Encoding of the number zero varied. In some cases, zero or one bytes were transmitted. Sometimes the length of the signature matched the size of the RSA modulus. The latter suggests that the server implementation may have omitted the copy of the computed signature. This could happen if RSA-CRT
ascii_field: 'We observed one rather peculiar factorization of a RSA modulus, involving factor 23. What happened was that the public key in the X.509 certificate was corrupted in some (there was a bit flip, according to the server operator), and equation (1) accidentally revealed the factor 23. The corrupted modulus had other small factors, too, and a large composite factor with an unknown factorization.'
ascii_field: of the vulnerability. OCTEON II
ascii_field: another would be graphviz output.
ascii_field: which ~is~ the one true objective.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: there are two kinds of brevity
ben_vulpes is not convinced that brevity is the be all and end all.
trinque: I think python is a fair choice given the circumstances
trinque: was thinking re: the DSL comment
funkenstein_ admits java was mother tongue, still finds himself translating in head from other languages
ascii_field: perl was the only serious candidate, and if ben_vulpes would like to attempt a cleaner version (!) in it, i'm all ears.
trinque: bash olympics, which somehow reminds me of the BME olympics
ascii_field: they are cleaner, more well-defined items than python, yes.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: let's get to the matter, if you would like to rewrite 'v' in sed and awk, go ahead. i was not equal to the task.
ben_vulpes: enough with the floppy metaphors!
ascii_field: they seem like equally meritorious ideas.
ascii_field: the real question is why should i even consider the matter. because i can't really see why i should not also consider flossing my teeth with barbed wire, if considering java.
trinque: there are probably many packages you could all but guarantee are in the vast majority of java projects
trinque: yeah I do get really scared when say leiningen pulls down five hundred java modules of questionable origin, when I've worked in Clojure in the past
ascii_field: the language, in this case, is not just a language but an ecosystem with unavoidable exposure to the work of many previous users
trinque: the "native method interface" thing
ascii_field: i will neither write nor read java. not even for money.
trinque: I'd expect Java is also fucked along that border, among other places
trinque: ben_vulpes: nah but they're smaller
trinque: I personally know I'll never have a clear picture of what the VM and the machine underneath are doing *while* writing a program
ascii_field: lastly, http://www.whodotheyserve.com << lizardz!
ascii_field: http://www.koalastothemax.com << toy.
mircea_popescu: there's no university free hitman service
gribble: Call the Cops - Rob Hustle ft. Bump - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc>; Anarchast Ep. 148 Rob Hustle: This is What Happens When You ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNWOpxTADg>; This is what happens when you call the cops! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOL8p61xuwM>
funkenstein_: ;;google that's what happens when you call the cops
phf: su/sudo vfs would be handy for copying files between users without having to adjust permissions or escalate to superuser. one pane is user foo, other pane is user bar. doesn't matter if foo's pane is in 700 folder, and if you were to copy, file will be created as belonging to user bar, with his umask applied
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 11:00:14; assbot: Cocaine Production Plummets After DEA Kicked Out of Bolivia | The Mind Unleashed ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZywoe )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262509 << ahahahahaha. they aren't 'kicked out' until 1) they haven't the option of returning, while 2) pharma-grade cocaine is sold for five cents on every street corner in santa cruz, and for export by the million tonnes
asciilifeform had an interesting dream as he slept. dreamt that he had occasion, for some reason, to call the cops. they came, and instead of registering whatever complaint (something involving cars) began to fill up his house, room by room, until seemingly no more could fit, but continued to pack, pack, until walls began to crack under the sheer pressure of meat
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: to everyone's surprise, usg is the main driver of all things the usg "fights against".
assbot: Cocaine Production Plummets After DEA Kicked Out of Bolivia | The Mind Unleashed ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZywoe )
jurov: http://themindunleashed.org/2015/09/cocaine-production-plummets-after-dea-kicked-out-of-bolivia.html
mircea_popescu: the way modern warfare works, you don't want planes and regular soldiers. you want missiles and partisans. and you don't aim to kill the enemy, you aim to maim as many as possible and encourage them to keep coming. the situation where US population is up 200mn and US war invalid population is up 50mn is a greater win for isis than the situation where the us population is 0.
assbot: Strategy for the antisocial struggle. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JAwmEP )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262457 << he gets it. i guess from experience. http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 04:10:21; wilbns: it, you're talking about a minimum of 2-3 days to acquire the BTC, pass KYC/AML, etc. probably could have spent 20-30 minutes to just go to an m-pesa teller.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262399 << "passing aml/kyc" for dealing with money is like passing the astrology test to go to the hospital. yes some unfortunate souls stuck in retarded, abusive communities do that.
mircea_popescu: "While I agree that not everyone is bad, I'll suggest that the number of bad people involved in bitcoin so far exceeds the number of bad people in other organizations that the whole system isn't working. I'm starting to consider whether people were wrong about the "decentralization" issue. Is it possible that decentralization was tried, and it is being proven right now that it simply doesn't work because the system bec
cazalla: soz thestringpuller, looks to be that BingoBoingo got to it first
BingoBoingo: ^ thestringpuller
assbot: Nearly 1 million veterans have pending applications for health care at VA — and a third may already be dead - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFStDt )
mats: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2015/09/03/nearly-1-million-veterans-have-pending-applications-for-health-care-at-the-va-and-a-third-may-already-be-dead/
trinque: mats: the concussion is pretty bad too right?
wilbns: their*
wilbns: was in new york a while back and at the airport, there were maybe a couple dozen guys, they all look like they just graduated high school. all w/ manila folders in hand, waiting, heading off to boot camp - all making small talk w/ one another. looked like they didn't know each other very well. was imaging how there lives were going to change and wondering if
mats: not in the slightest
mats: one in the boot in case ied rendered corpse visually unidentifiable l0l
phf: "Adjusting your approach trajectory in the event of catastrophic landing processor failure. p. 23 HP-16c manual"
mats: they're different items
asciilifeform: hard to imagine a more precious possession than 'the last bullet'
asciilifeform: one-upsmanshiping one another by carrying larger and larger rounds, up to antiaircraft cannon shells,
asciilifeform: mats: the legend i was told re: 'challenge coins' is that they were issued in lieu of the 'last bullet' that americans used to slam on barroom stools in vietnam
asciilifeform: actually the comments on one of the earlier links were 'it works but i wish it had keyboard'
phf: "guys, guys, there's this guy in dc who's going to be real upset"
asciilifeform: and 'nobody can tell the difference, right ??!!'
asciilifeform: mats: this may not be obvious from the picture, but the buttons on the actual 16c are legit separate pieces of plastic, with clickers
asciilifeform: mats: http://kd7dvd.us/other/edc/mamabear-16c.jpg << right hand side: the real thing. left hand side: the piece of shit
trinque: the point here isn't to package bitcoin into some easily inserted suppository for everyone
wilbns: funkenstein_: yes, but most people on the street don't care as long as their money is worth the same today as it is yesterday and they can still go buy a relative equivalent of whatever with it tomorrow.
funkenstein_: wilbns, the point is - m-pesa guys can issue as many as they want. it's private and counterfeitable
asciilifeform: i suppose word 'same' now means 'we say it is the same, and you, cattle, will eat it up because fuck you'
asciilifeform: 'has largely the same feature set and user interface as a real 15C' << ahahahahahaha no.
wilbns: it, you're talking about a minimum of 2-3 days to acquire the BTC, pass KYC/AML, etc. probably could have spent 20-30 minutes to just go to an m-pesa teller.
wilbns: funkenstein_: maybe m-pesa could utilize the tech for more efficient settlement of transactions. if someone just wants to send money to grandma or someone else in the next town, though, it's a bit of a hassle to suggest bitcoin. unless one party already has it, then they can sent it to bitpesa and they'll deliver it to the m-pesa number. if neither party has
mats: >t its heart, this calculator is an emulator of the HP-15C (running on an ARM processor, although a different family from what HP is using in the ARM-based current-production 12C and the 15C Limited Edition), and therefore has largely the same feature set and user interface as a real 15C.
asciilifeform: ok it appears that they are physical calcs
asciilifeform: or are they?!
asciilifeform: they are stickers for pNohe.
asciilifeform: were they ?!!
mats: guess I'll pencil it in at the bottom of my programming projects
asciilifeform: mats: these appear to be actual calculators, not emulated
asciilifeform: there were (and are) abominations where ops like the ones on 16c ~could be~ accessed ten menu keystrokes in
asciilifeform: mats: afaik there never was, before or since.
asciilifeform: at some point, they won't exist at ~any~ price.
funkenstein_ expects maths to work rather similarly on any continent
mircea_popescu: not we. them.
funkenstein_: i mean, if m-pesa already does everything we need, what's the point of using bitcoin?
mats: jesus the hp 16c goes for 200+
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, isn't that it doesn't provide utility, but not to *them*
funkenstein_: wilbns, uh.. just curious what do you think the point of public coin is?
asciilifeform: kenyans need bitcoin like they need gunn diodes.
wilbns: also, in kenya, for example bitcoin doesn't provide much utility beyond what m-pesa already does. the current area companies like bitpesa are trying to get traction are in remittances (where one party doesn't have m-pesa because they're outside the country), or by pitching it as a speculative financial instrument or novelty.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 23:18:36; fluffypony: cazalla: it's not even me, Africans don't want Bitcoin because they're quite happy dealing in cash and not paying tax
phf: in other words over ascii's dead body
asciilifeform: if anyone even bothers.
mircea_popescu: can i buy it for the price of an old car ? :D
asciilifeform: it is 'capital goods' strictly in the sense that a beggar's shoes are.
asciilifeform: and i laugh out loud re: pete_dushenski thinking that my stash of junk is 'capital goods'. all of it put together wouldn't buy an old car.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:54:44; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya
assbot: Renée Graham: Kim Davis follows the footsteps of George Wallace - The Boston Globe ... ( http://bit.ly/1EECkc6 )
asciilifeform: but i'd rather put it in a pyre, and light it
phf: i don't know understand why everything needs to be made so idiotic. i mean, what is this, making your 50 years of scientific research hip? you know, for the kids.
funkenstein_: Re: Method in Randomness <-- well I'd never heard of "deepdyve", where do they find gnomes to work on this kind of bullshit? They gave me 5 minutes to "view" the article (in crippled form) in exchange for a fake email.
trinque: phf: could amount to nothing, but that part's not much up to them
phf: trinque: i agree with you though, i'm judging by central pa, northern maryland, which is not necessarily the cities, but still within the sprawl.
ag3nt_zer0: not a huge mellancamp fan but he works hard up there and he does have some great tunes
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya
ag3nt_zer0: left behnd the detritus and have people there who just are happy he shares his trip with them - honestly
ag3nt_zer0: and I just thought that the fact that he had shed his fanbase skin so many times resulted in a nice blend of people - christians, hippies, old school folkies, some rockers haha whatever
ag3nt_zer0: I have been making it a point to go see dylan every time he comes by the gay area for the last 6-7 years... probably seen him 5-6 times in that stretch
pete_dushenski: watch, mircea_popescu will try chengdu for a year then move back to romania.
pete_dushenski: trinque: 'there's no place like home' (tm)
assbot: Denny’s Market Researcher Emerges From Focus Group Shaken After Finding Out What Americans Really Want For Breakfast - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1UvZALf )
BingoBoingo: http://www.theonion.com/article/dennys-market-researcher-emerges-focus-group-shake-51241
trinque: relatedly I am ending my current tour in the pac NW for a time, headed back to TX
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 19:47:36; trinque: these gun-toting christians hate socialism, so I like them just fine
pete_dushenski: prolly an html5 thing then. i dun use flash.
phf: seems like they pulled a lot of dylan tracks
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262093 << they aren't in such bad company: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sI5WekW78
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:20:02; asciilifeform: one reason why they push fingerprints and similar crap is the 'prima facie' concept
trinque: general attempt to discourage on-the-ground journalism?
pete_dushenski: except... "We will not seriously consider anyone if they include explicit material in the video," Pornhub Vice President Corey Price said via email.
pete_dushenski: "For students seeking to make some extra bucks to pay for tuition, Pornhub may be able to help. The adult video website is offering a $25,000 scholarship to a legal age college student who likes making others happy. "
asciilifeform: 'Three journalists working with Vice News have been charged with "engaging in terrorist activity" on behalf of ISIL (ISIS), because one of them used encryption software. A Turkish official told Al Jazeera: "The main issue seems to be that the [journalists'] fixer uses a complex encryption system on his personal computer that a lot of ISIL militants also utilise for strategic communications."'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: there is a difference!
asciilifeform: is this where we do the 2013 thread re: whether a fully-knowable computing machine is possible, all over again ?
mircea_popescu: but the point is, as your brain's not "sovereign" in this sense, no computer ever will be, and there goes that line.
asciilifeform: brain is not the gold standard, aha. there is a reason why 'mentats' are creatures of imagination and we compute with machines whenever the least bit possible.
mircea_popescu: it, principally, concerns itself with other matters.
asciilifeform: or not worthy of the name.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: ah I see. more of a cave. always thought superman was the one with teh "fortress"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller isn't batman this derp with a fortress ?
mircea_popescu: btw, am i the only one that finds it funny that some dude whose name was MANning decided to be a woman ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i assume you're referring to "The Dark Knight Returns".
asciilifeform: see the 'fortress' discussion.
asciilifeform: this is why i play in my head with the idea of an all-chick meta-nsa.
mircea_popescu: just going by the "there's more wives with secret children than men at any given point"
asciilifeform: theoretically, but you have to build'em a nunnery
mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf it is, you'd expect they be better than men, generally speaking.
mircea_popescu: you'd think they'd learn women do not belong at state.
mircea_popescu: incidentally - every time they let a woman near secrets it blew up. there's rice. there's nuland. there's clinton. that's almost all of them.
asciilifeform: all you found was a run-down 'wine-making branch of the family' rothchild
mircea_popescu: we had this with rockefellers in camps, you are barred from using the line ever again.
asciilifeform: the annointed are forgiven pecadillos like murder or grand embezzlement
asciilifeform: chewed at the straps - no.
mircea_popescu: how come the woman can lose state secrets via inept emailing, and is ok, the guy can't talk to some random socially-acceptable whore
asciilifeform: the ones who walked with cia - yes
mircea_popescu: no fucking idea who'd even want to fuck them, that broken.
asciilifeform: their 'don't count' works in the same way as in all times and places. kennedies can gf after gf, and no one indicts, corzine et al can steal $maxint, etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what i question is, the imbecile adolescent population that is not hard at work breaking the society they live in.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's probable they'd come up with some sort of "doesn't count", but should be fun to see nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: and besides, who cares abnout eiother of these two. you just taker the whole plum book and execute it all.
mircea_popescu: and on the balance of evidence, it's more likely the 17 yo in question have serious autism issues. because they similarly can't talk to girls and so forth.
asciilifeform: actually the airplane bomb was abundantly obvious since when, 1944 ?
mircea_popescu: so then why and wherefore!
mircea_popescu: when's the last time you spoke to a judge ?
mircea_popescu: i don't care what "the result" is.
asciilifeform: there will be no sorting, and no trials.
mircea_popescu: 100 * say 10k = 1mn counts for the system to sort through
mircea_popescu: step A. get list of phone numbers of everyone. step 2. get all the 100+ sluts you know taking nude pics of themselves. step 3. having same send said pics with appropriate text to the 1.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you know full well the result, '17yo charged with self-exploitation and besmirching the honourable name of a servant of the crown'
BingoBoingo: State court indictments are a pain, typically involve going to actual courthouse or subscribing to expensive service like Westlaw and praying they sent someone to the courthouse already.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how one could be 17yo, a us citizen, and NOT sms nude pics of themselves to every single usg official in sighh
asciilifeform: does anyone have a link to the actual indictment ?
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am
asciilifeform: s the Kafka-esque nightmare in which Fayetteville-area high schooler Cormega Copening finds himself after exchanging private nude photos with his girlfriendwith whom he is legally allowed to have sex, but not to sext.' << gold.
asciilifeform: 'A North Carolina 17-year-old caught in a sexting scandal faces charges of sexually exploiting a minor that could land him in jail for up to 10 years, since the law considers him an adult. But one of the minors he supposedly exploited is himselfwhich raises an obvious question: how can a teen be old enough to face adult felony charges, but not old enough to keep a nude picture of himself on his phone? Unfortunately, that
ben_vulpes: nobody is doing anything of 'actual worth' and 'much' is such a wishy-washy term that you can set the bar arbitrarily high.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll bite. name anybody presently rolling in the vc megamillions while doing something of actual worth
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 03:05:07; asciilifeform: trinque: if you are not among the annointed
pete_dushenski: "There are roughly 3 trillion trees on Earth — more than seven times the number previously estimated — according to a tally1 by an international team of scientists." << moar upward revisionism, except this kind is more butthurt for climate doomsdayists
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's complicated. but on the balance of it, too much fat makes you fat. which is problematic for the circulatory system
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I just got a lot of momentum going these past couple days
pete_dushenski: i admit i've only met two of them, a young couple at pre-natal class, perfectly pleasant really. he even wore a tallit around his waist
thestringpuller: Paul Graham literally believes the best startups are ones that don't scale: "When I interviewed Mark Zuckerberg at Startup School, he said that while it was a lot of work creating course lists for each school, doing that made students feel the site was their natural home."
mircea_popescu: contact to ground was lost long enough, by the time graham's in outer space derping to himself about hyperbolics...
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the vc-derps are pretty much one track. they got one solution for all problems, which is proven to not work for any of them, and they';re sticking to it.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 11:35:05; shinohai: My "hacks" were mostly to wiring and such. My mother, in her nasally Jewish voice, always swore I was going to "burn myself alive in my car"
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:47:29; mircea_popescu: trinque i'll give you an extra lol. recently the source of the "salt is bad mkay", ie the ustardemia, came out with an admission of the fraudulent nature of that entire swathe of "research". this however has not yet reached the latino "scientists" who mostly exist through translating things and pretending.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260745 << missed the boat on fats though
fluffypony: cazalla: it's not even me, Africans don't want Bitcoin because they're quite happy dealing in cash and not paying tax
shinohai: They are like undertakers reading morning obituaries, hoping to find a failing economy to rescue.
fluffypony: so I've literally been saying for ages that Africa is far from ready to "embrace" Bitcoin, and half the continent won't want it anyway, but nooooo, nobody listens to me, they all want to shovel Bitcoin down Africa's throat
BingoBoingo: https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/09/03/harvard-will-let-students-select-pronouns << Can't wait for the student who selects fuck, piss, shit, and cunt as their pronoun set
BingoBoingo: Just found it online searching the hotsheets.
mircea_popescu: phf i think 2/3 of the benefit regulars derive from being here is this sort of thing
phf: i've over optimized in the direction of making kindle work for me, but it is like looking through peephole. i solve the whole branching problem by relying on their notes feature: whatever you select on kindle gets saved to a text file that gets copied into my notes during sync. correspondingly my article saving mechanism converts all links to title (url) form, so i can follow up when on desktop
mircea_popescu: it'd be expected that the central authority for communication and propaganda pumps out supporting evidence through its respective organs
mircea_popescu: anyway, as a rule of thumb, the bluer a light runs the cheaper it is and the shittier too. as phillips' been driving its crusade to replace all lights with shittier lights to complete the precious indications given at the 18th plenary of the permanent comission of the central committee of the economic planning bureau
mircea_popescu: joecool turns out people have very different tolerances to far-blue and UV. it's a function of the quality of filtering they got which is mostly genetics.
mircea_popescu: aha. blue is the fatiguer. and, of course, goes without saying, small fonts.
mircea_popescu: the 6300K thing is WAY more important than anyone realises. and cutting down on the gamma helps loads.
ascii_field: but are more like the dial of a washing machine
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 20:28:51; trinque: seems you could draw us back into the middle east, meanwhile hit us economically like china seems to be doing, and that's it
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 22:33:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field: they happily send their sons to army so they can 'die for a fat bitch's right to marry her dog' << wow. that, right there, is more valuable to orlov's employer than orlov's entire body of work to date. mebbe you get job offers nao.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261999 << l0l i stole the text from mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261798 << ah, nuttin wrong with that. but the l1 is more active an affair.
mircea_popescu fantasises at the dystopia where alf writes PR for a living.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: they happily send their sons to army so they can 'die for a fat bitch's right to marry her dog' << wow. that, right there, is more valuable to orlov's employer than orlov's entire body of work to date. mebbe you get job offers nao.
mircea_popescu: !s rotherham
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 20:13:18; ascii_field: or 10,001 other exercises of his would-be pashtunism
ascii_field: 'In the marble streets of Ashgabat, we soon grow a bit tired and sweaty. In theory, we could rest a bit inside one of the many bus stops, designed to be air-conditioned. The air-conditioning has stopped working, so instead they are now glass ovens where you can bake yourself. We decide to wait outside. ' << orc win !
mircea_popescu: the real problem here is that ... well... no rich people left. nobody to say "fuck you, either make this and you get one trillion, or i spend a trillion torturing your families. you have one year."
ascii_field: otherwise it is like reading on plastic bag.
mircea_popescu: anyway. magnetic bottle exists, there's no fucking excuse. not like any sort of quantum leap is required. just index and miniaturize.
mircea_popescu would like to say THAT web2.0. the proper one. "cube webpages"