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ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1049735 << pastebin *specifically*. i've seen this again and again, eventually diddled something in my environment to keep it from happening.
ben_vulpes: thick ass logs today
ben_vulpes: trinque: you know it
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1049682 << hah i ran into this as well, thought it was due to mounting the working dir in from the host machine
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2015#1049268 << cardano-like thinger over serial someday, one hopes
ben_vulpes: wtshit linux
ben_vulpes: bail on *error*
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1049633 << oh just extreme naivte in thinking things like the bail on exit flag would be set the same way on other platforms
ben_vulpes: some mixture of all the above
ben_vulpes: sour grapes re youth wasted on the young
ben_vulpes: elbow in ribs
ben_vulpes: nudge
ben_vulpes: re: 'mit' - feeder college for northrup grumman and loyal derpy armsmiths
ben_vulpes: i've yet to get to read macros in my studies
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2015#1048149 << what is the lisp concept and how is hickey crapping on it?
ben_vulpes: the hell is he wearing?
ben_vulpes: far cuter girls at blues night than mit, dun see why i'd bother
ben_vulpes: bit rottttt
ben_vulpes: hyuuuuu
ben_vulpes: still
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> in other news, apparently apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time! << they want you to buy a thing to make more holes
ben_vulpes: oh that's delightful
ben_vulpes: movies get banned in oz?
ben_vulpes: x11, the whole nine.
ben_vulpes: it's a trillion dollar project if you swallow the whole spitoon of what constitutes modern computing.
ben_vulpes: the argument deserves surfacing.
ben_vulpes: i know this, but for the loggerheads.
ben_vulpes: and silos and etc etc
ben_vulpes: icmbs*
ben_vulpes: redoing modern compute is impossible without your own icbm and maintenance staff for.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047115 << this is why i don't quite buy the "trillion dollar project" argument.
ben_vulpes: y'no see the tag, and the drapes, and the tag, and the being of in the bathroom?
ben_vulpes: towel.
ben_vulpes: hahahahaha
ben_vulpes: also tonight the beast acquired a new trick: "hold the fuck still while i put things on you"
ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/F6KDREa << my beast, fairly long. yellow object is nine inches.
ben_vulpes: for you in particular.
ben_vulpes: why is suspend to ram such a big deal?
ben_vulpes: https://vid.me/e/HNrC << working on obedience at distance in casa vulpes esta noche
ben_vulpes: the troll who trained shanley? blocking trolls?
ben_vulpes: wags was a bust last round according to you
ben_vulpes: lady v has scheduled this trip to coincide with con3
ben_vulpes: her mother's been banging on for a visit recently
ben_vulpes: ahaha so let me trumpet the superiority of my woman for a moment
ben_vulpes: 'twas promised!
ben_vulpes: they actually won't let you on the plane without the paper printed out.
ben_vulpes: no, not even *in*
ben_vulpes: it's my own statal agents i've gotta convince the papers are legit.
ben_vulpes: ars is not actually the problem.
ben_vulpes: will anyways.
ben_vulpes: old, punched passport?
ben_vulpes: what, do i bring all of my name change paperwork?
ben_vulpes: but it's filed under the old name.
ben_vulpes: right
ben_vulpes: what, he just did a runner?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the link in question is about amazon's use of emacs in their frontline customer support
ben_vulpes: somewhere in there
ben_vulpes: !s steak from:benkay
ben_vulpes: !s steak from:ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is not news.
ben_vulpes: i have to pay the reciprocity fee again don't i
ben_vulpes: oh man i changed my name and have a new passport
ben_vulpes: er, number
ben_vulpes: it actually choked on my passport name
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i saw that last year
ben_vulpes: lebanon?!
ben_vulpes: by the holy dogfucking jesus i will find them
ben_vulpes: i will find whoever decided to return 200 from this endpoint and encode the error in xml
ben_vulpes: and searches return nada.
ben_vulpes: i actually don't recall a thread.
ben_vulpes: trips all sorts of bezzletronic alerts for me, but i lack the context to make judgements.
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the braindamage in this "mill" processor?
ben_vulpes: jurov: fine on the vision, budget was simply my spare time.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ? << nobody ever said how many hours.
ben_vulpes: 2-3 people on your project, no context switching penalties for mobile/backend/html, no technical management burden.
ben_vulpes: i'll handle the rest.
ben_vulpes: product vision and a six-month commitment at 20K/mo.
ben_vulpes: !up The20YearIRCloud
ben_vulpes: oh dizee is still around?
ben_vulpes: pina coladas?
ben_vulpes: really, Vexual?
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: nice find, Vexual
ben_vulpes: now that's mining
ben_vulpes: i don't have much choice in the long run.
ben_vulpes: but i'm pretty sure with the state of modern consumer'pute'
ben_vulpes: i won't do it mindlessly, and i won't go quietly into that dark night.
ben_vulpes: instead of doing whatever's imposed upon me by the world, i mean.
ben_vulpes: what, though, should i be doing instead?
ben_vulpes: sort of
ben_vulpes: i just learned how it works
ben_vulpes: but my .Xresources
ben_vulpes: jesus fuck x11 as well!?
ben_vulpes: double?
ben_vulpes: transaction*
ben_vulpes: what is the correct data representation for the amount of bitcoin in a transactino?
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to a multisignature transaction in the main chain?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments << uh yeah that's how hand machining worked
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
ben_vulpes: but really it comes back to the wot.
ben_vulpes: this also entails delegating projects of various scope in different domains to them and then carefully reviewing delivered code and user-facing features.
ben_vulpes: i don't know about that. generally working with any given individual for a few months is enough to suss out their competence.
ben_vulpes: decimation: all i know is how to google shit.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" << you tell me
ben_vulpes: that is, if you really lack the kind of mind that hungers for something beyond "money".
ben_vulpes: avoid "baccalaureate" bezzle, hack js and css.
ben_vulpes: i still think CS is the worst way to make money programmering.
ben_vulpes: cute, freecad has a REPL
ben_vulpes: lisps are so damn easy.
ben_vulpes: http://www.openscad.org << the cad program i mistook for freecad in a several months old thread.
ben_vulpes: i am indeed unfamiliar with it.
ben_vulpes: http://www.afralisp.net/index.php << decimation i think was looking for CAD scripting?
ben_vulpes halfway expects 'node' 'gpg' to shell out to platform bins
ben_vulpes: "please compromise and brute force this juicy target."
ben_vulpes: key backup as a service is downright braindamaged.
ben_vulpes: punkman, thestringpuller: a "better keyserver"'d not be a bad thing to do.
ben_vulpes: was it even shrem?
ben_vulpes: what's the graphical www browser story over on le bsds?
ben_vulpes: waaay over my head.
ben_vulpes: what on earth is tsync?
ben_vulpes: (although who knows - maybe i'm a moron for trying to pass it quoted empty arrays)
ben_vulpes: apparently.
ben_vulpes: golang json parser barfs on quoted empty arrays.
ben_vulpes: mailman is jurov's beast.
ben_vulpes: "lizard steve".
ben_vulpes: anyways, feds can't pull their heads out of their arses. apple, otoh, targets you and yours specifically for pain.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: seen, entirely in character for bezzleprocurement.
ben_vulpes: nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it
ben_vulpes: "why are you using macintoshes anyways - don't you get government stipends to buy the 10k windows laptops?"
ben_vulpes: call cali: "oop, sorry. we don't like your kind."
ben_vulpes: east coast gets the bum hardware.
ben_vulpes: they also know exactly how quality each device is.
ben_vulpes: apple ships you people all the 'B' grade hardware.
ben_vulpes: nobody likes that part of the country.
ben_vulpes: it's because you live in the Forbidden City.
ben_vulpes: has this magical effect of guaranteeing hardware performance for 3 years.
ben_vulpes: proverbial "box of benjies".
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has yet to discover "extended care" apparently.
ben_vulpes: answer.
ben_vulpes: 76, but whatever.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: srs
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> which is why the democrats have alternatives. because she's not running. << implying she might run in 8 years?
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ? << a good reason to use usg mailservers and own your keys
ben_vulpes: more effective to not do it and just buy btc.
ben_vulpes: and how'd you know that, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: "but trading isn't gamblinggggg!"
ben_vulpes: now pm assbot thusly: /msg assbot !up
ben_vulpes: !down coalbe
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.coalbe.1:7963e8bebaef17f239758f67e4784ead88f565b669ba7319af114b55def5638b
ben_vulpes: !rate coalbe 1 bad puns
ben_vulpes: !gettrust coalbe
ben_vulpes: coalbe!
ben_vulpes: !rate coalbe 1 really bad puns
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [05:53] am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ? << would this be the ancient "gpg wot" standard?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [05:35] asciilifeform: I feel sorry for the poor guy, his heart is in the right place but he has no idea what kind of elephant he is trying to eat << more like a spittoon
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [05:31] mircea_popescu: Has #b-a actually banned ever? << tiberius.
ben_vulpes: i think i get it.
ben_vulpes: oop! limited recourse i mean.
ben_vulpes: so borrower defaults, lender gets house and payments.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i curious about the no-recourse mortgages as well. lender returns payment stream, keeps asset?
ben_vulpes: nah, another ryan c.
ben_vulpes: ryan-c: do i know you?
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: also, don't poison the well against yourself.
ben_vulpes: !down sjsqd
ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> I understand the idea of bitcoin universes << what you don't seem to understand is that there are separate WoTs in action.
ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> its all calculated automatically as far as I'm aware << so how would you know if things are working as expected?
ben_vulpes: look into qntra.net
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> think of them as the foundation and the phoundation, with the other guys being the ph << no, we're the fundation!
ben_vulpes: you yourself may ascertain whatever you may ascertain.
ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> nubbins`: the goal of my articles is to try and ascertain how transparently the foundation currently operates << the goal of your articles is to apparently rack up pageviews.
ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> but is it correct to title it as the 'pirate' bitcoin foundation? << no.
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: a bitcoin client.
ben_vulpes: the goal is to do that and nothing more.
ben_vulpes: the question under consideration is "what precisely does it mean to bitcoinate?"
ben_vulpes: no win32, no qt
ben_vulpes: a right, asciilifeform excised the dns.
ben_vulpes: dns is on the chopping block, etc.
ben_vulpes: someone removed the "alert" feature
ben_vulpes: no "gavinblocks"
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: it's just. old. code.
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: it's just the old code.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:55] that the fella actually thought he was 'using pgp' << wait wut? who biffed at this epic scale?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you're not the poor sod who'd starve without coding either.
ben_vulpes: discipline thyself.
ben_vulpes: adlai: this distraction thing is a human factors problem.
ben_vulpes: hear hear
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.vhost-.2:45f33ea63fd332565cd5944c27d4e2d71efa99db12620aef65556fa23229d0f5
ben_vulpes: !rate vhost- 2 taught me much
ben_vulpes: whoa a vhost-?
ben_vulpes: the freemen who take 100% plus organs are actually the lords.
ben_vulpes: from "diamond age"
ben_vulpes: merely that someone must.
ben_vulpes: im not saying the *usg* has to hold the roads and rails.
ben_vulpes: myeah well that's a given.
ben_vulpes: 0.1% of?
ben_vulpes: there are more or less 2 major thoroughfares, and they're pretty chokeable.
ben_vulpes: migrations north are going to be slow.
ben_vulpes: okay here's an argument for a protracted decline
ben_vulpes: i don't know, man! it's one fifteen in the morning and i'm tearing my hair out over how to plan for just the next decade.
ben_vulpes: "fuck everything that happens, i'm in the wot."
ben_vulpes: hm, mebbe that's the attitude.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> dude, i have nfi << me neither, i'm just a millwright trying to not starve this decade.
ben_vulpes: no, it's a good question.
ben_vulpes: i suppose that this is more properly spoken of in certainty intervals?
ben_vulpes: it's *gotta* have another 5 years left in it.
ben_vulpes: i'm leaning towards the fiatbezzle right now.
ben_vulpes: but fuck my life is it hard to put time horizons on that.
ben_vulpes: it's trivial to say "clearly whatever whatever power structure will fall over."
ben_vulpes: and there's this impossible time horizon estimation problem that the "end of civilization" brings with it.
ben_vulpes: everything must be valued in not only dollar payouts, but twenty-one-millionth payouts.
ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-assets, by the way, has made investing *harder* for me, not *easier*.
ben_vulpes: so here's the thing about shartups:
ben_vulpes: ugh yeah and ofc shartups.
ben_vulpes: 99% of that is likely attributable to simply how much longer they've been doing it for.
ben_vulpes: i can think of fifteen utterly moronic doodz doing running precisely the same hustle and making vastly more money at it.
ben_vulpes: here's the thing that makes me discount my own equity though:
ben_vulpes: actually, i totally get it all of a sudden.
ben_vulpes: ouch.
ben_vulpes: yeah i have no idea how to account for that.
ben_vulpes: right, so we come back around to equity which i clearly don't understand formally.
ben_vulpes: on the other hand, during those thing months, the "bankers" walk with hours*rate, and i lose money.
ben_vulpes: the linked article on one hand doesn't make a terrific amount of sense to me because for whatever reason (perhaps i'm a particularly well-doing con man), i can sell into the buy side of "professional services" at rates that my "bankers" can't touch on their own.
ben_vulpes: instead, i coordinate work of the type i could perform on my own. that work costs me, let's say .8B. i bill at ~1.8. on volume, my take home is ~1.5B/hr (assuming 40hrs/wk, 50wks/yr. salary equality assumptions, etc.).
ben_vulpes: (impossible, but for rounding errors)
ben_vulpes: i could freelance, at some rate - let's say 2BTC/hr
ben_vulpes: let's try again.
ben_vulpes: perhaps the dillema isn't so clear to me, likely due to symbolic confusion.
ben_vulpes: profits being that which is left over after paying out contractors, staff, rent etc.
ben_vulpes: so equity being ownership stake in derpy consulting co.
ben_vulpes: what's a reasonable set of symbols?
ben_vulpes: that's certainly possible.
ben_vulpes: for tax reasons, i clock infinity hours, get paid exactly the same amount (for medicare/aid purposes) each month.
ben_vulpes: devs clock time, get paid hours. simple maffs.
ben_vulpes: "the equity will continue to bear the majority of the variability in profits" << painfully true.
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