mircea_popescu: btw wiles looks a lot like brin the elder wouldn't you think ?
asciilifeform: at the risk of mixed metaphor, the locusts have cleared out the low-hanging fruit, yes.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean "i should like for someone to show me how math works". i just meant i dunno that there's even a promising direction of research into the matter.
mircea_popescu: after all, feathers, right ? from like, animals, right ?
assbot: The crime of being American on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LJyc7I )
mircea_popescu: btw re earlier feather discussion : http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ probably ties in.
mircea_popescu: i expect if ever resolved it'll be like the fermat thing.
asciilifeform: ah then yes!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that one is not the same as other is what happens to be true.
asciilifeform: now if only he'd listened! then he could starve in this ditch with me, instead of bathing in benjies and cocaine in his usg-filled wealthtub
mircea_popescu: well in my defense i wasn't reading it then.
asciilifeform: there is no forgiveness for a stupid foundation.
mircea_popescu: but it's what i had formed in my head in that week or however long the interest lasted.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:40:15; ascii_field: not far from the facts though.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281152 << ianae but my reading at the original time (back when i even sponsored development in the then-nascent alt paradigm, see http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/#selection-35.0-37.0 ) was that they actually had pretty much the same idea as alf, which is to say the old sherlockism : "once you've eliminated all stupid, what you're left weith, however improbable
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281891 << mircea_popescu if you have an actual proof, i and 10,001 other people would enjoy reading it.
asciilifeform: living in the real world, with its incredibly annoying habit of wrecking _every_ constructed expectation sooner or later.'
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:56:31; mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281876 >> http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185426046243327@naggum.net.html >> 'There is much less intellectual dishonesty among people who aren't smart enough to make up a sufficiently large part of the world that they can live in it, and the bigger part of the world you can create inside your own head, the more important it is that you don't move into your own mind, but keep
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:16:12; ascii_field: phun phakt: it is not a proven fact that the difficulty of the rsa problem as such is equivalent to that of factoring.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:59:46; ascii_field: because usg has the means to feed full-time programmers, and we do not.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281114 << except i wouldn't hire them if they paid me.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281113 << unavoidable. this is what being a thought leader entails : that EVERYONE ELSE is stuck trying to make your planes out of mud and sticks. for that is what they have and this is what they want.
mircea_popescu: and all the fuckwards derping about bitcoin and africa are more than welcome to explain who in this world exactly needs 2 dollar-fortified transactions to pay for his fucking plastic pocket protector or whatever the shit reddit buys from that one fat chick at the talent fair.
mircea_popescu: so their math is correct, it does cost MULTIPLE DOLLARS to properly settle a transaction, via the TRUSTLESS blockchain mechanism.
mircea_popescu: also, it's not exactly clear what the bitcoin per-transaction COSTS are, but it is quite obvious that a) mining is designed to be a ~0% margin activity and has been exactly that without exception through the history and b) the PRICE paid for a block which is usually 1-2k transactions is usually 25ish BTC, which is for simplicity 5k dollars.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i appreciate that they're SO FUCKING PETRIFIED of bitcoin can't even talk of it other than under the SA guise.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice.
mircea_popescu: between stolfi and lew rockwell, a whole fucking massed galaxy of these imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: what "go suck the cock of the people who made the thing that surprised you for a while, because obviously they know and obviously you don't". nonono, HE IS GOING TO HAVE IDEAS.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:57:27; ascii_field: 'Broadly, the design difference between Urbit and a blockchain network is that blockchains are "trust superconductors" - they eliminate any dependency on social, political or economic trust. Urbit is a "trust conductor" - engineered to minimize, but not eliminate, dependencies on trust.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281109 << "broadly the difference is that curtis originally didn't understand what this all is, then got called on it by http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ then had someone who can actually think explain what's going on to him, then the next day came up with.... wait for it... HIS OWN IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE A BETTER BITCOIN.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:54:58; ascii_field: 'galaxy, star, planet, moon, comet' << glorious. they retired the naval org chart (before that, prior to mr mold selling out to usg, it was feudal titles of nobility - as in my former 'dukedom')
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281105 << problem with the bezzletron is that words become dirty through their usage. which is why colored coins gotta become bitshares gotta become ripple gotta become ethereum and on and on.
mircea_popescu: some are here to lead and some others are here to follow, it is a given like e is a given.
mircea_popescu: no schooling, no government job, no friends and no other arrangements can ever change this.
mircea_popescu: the point is that manhood is not substitutable resource.
mircea_popescu: the point is drastically more subtler than that.
asciilifeform: i see the point here, i think. the (private) 'crime and punishment museum' in d.c. - the one with the famous electric chairs - has an example of mafia don's cell
mircea_popescu: usg paid for the whores.
asciilifeform: why would a fella who can administer broken teeth to the d.a., end up in a jail at any point ?
mircea_popescu: in the shape of broken teeth.
mircea_popescu: then da gets some form of persuasion,
mircea_popescu: because he might just as well run the jail like his own personal whorehouse.
asciilifeform: i expect that fella who 'won't accept' will get some form of... persuasion, in his jail cell, in the form of broken teeth
mircea_popescu: once one gets out of the paper bag of "hiring counsel", one discovers all sorts of little knobs on the papers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you said these people took math. at some point.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:52:26; ascii_field: to recognize the standard ++dec.' << ahahahahaha.
asciilifeform: and they are cheap.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:49:58; ascii_field: '%g is the application system, currently %gall (1300 lines) %gall is half process table and half systemd, sort of.' << satan preserve us.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281097 << if a hog fucks a goat in my presence, in the sense that i was in the same country at some point, this does not qualify the resulting hogbeast as "my bastard"
trinque: what, they don't have enough to do in Baltimore/Ferguson/wherever ?
trinque: in our "markets" the fetish of wealth, and in our courts and police stations the fetish of power
asciilifeform: oh noez the judge might have to work on fridays !
asciilifeform: the usual result is what is called 'hung jury'
asciilifeform: and if the judge catches a juror actively persuading others to nullify, he can try him for 'contempt'
asciilifeform: jury nullification is, contrary to popular belief, not really a thing in usa. not in the sense that it is impossible - it is certainly possible, on paper. but in practice verdict (in criminal cases) must be unanimous, and it never happens.
mircea_popescu: you want laws enforced, put some work into making them make sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion of "Strict liability" even being allowed is lulzy.
asciilifeform: likely, somewhere in there is an antifuse that, e.g., switches the workfunction to use sha3, or the like.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I see that point; in this case I think it reflects the actual twisted beliefs of the population << in all cases. that's how witchhunts work, and why they exist.
asciilifeform: the '21' thing
asciilifeform: see logz for my hypothesis re: why usg is handing out almost homeopathically-small miners.
mircea_popescu: about as likely to change as the color of sunset.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> maybe the cops just enjoy their fap material young. << everybody does. prime fuckmeat = nude teen chained to the wall.
asciilifeform: and in usa, it is anathema.
asciilifeform: i personally don't give a damn if they had been doing it to please odin.
mircea_popescu: "the kid has the M disease, what do we do ? " "i dunnoi, cast him in the M pit, let them tell him how to live with it. they obviously know by now"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but in the willingness to pluck out the exceptional and hand'em over to apprentice under masters. << kinda like outcast behaviour.
mircea_popescu: trinque heh, i imagine there's some pretty decent policeman teen porn stashes.
asciilifeform: and - ianal, but, afaik it is a 'strict liability' offence in usa. this means that considerations like 'i had no idea this was on my box' only count with respect to the decision to prosecute - that is, ~in the event the prosecutor deems it worthy of consideration~ - rather than on the matter of guilt or innocence.
trinque: I see that point; in this case I think it reflects the actual twisted beliefs of the population
asciilifeform: all cp prosecutions are, without exception, exercises of 'lettre du cachet' powers. on account of the impossibility of proving otherwise, plus the lack of anyone giving half a rat's arse re: said proof.
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 15:21:43; asciilifeform: now, for the other prong of the question, 'omg121111!!1111 ch1ld pr0n!' prosecutions in usa are always, without exception about one thing: 'know that you can go to the camps for having certain bitstrings on your hdd. and that if we want to, we can put them there, aha.'
asciilifeform: the particular case in question is also an instance of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-08-2015#1232285
asciilifeform: ^ from mircea_popescu's piece, quoted for the logz.
asciilifeform: tions and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - what the code actually says and does. Particularly "criminal" - using a computer in the manner it itself allows to be used.'
asciilifeform: t be used and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - the woman in question. Particularly "criminal" at the time - using a woman in the manner she herself wishes to be used. Times have changed, women are now worthless, but computers aren't, and these same dead hand fictions propose anew : that they own all computers, that if you own a computer it's only a sublease from them, subject to furthering their regula
asciilifeform: 'At a past time when the ownership of female humans was the principal method to control capital formation and the political process, the same sort of dead hand fictions proposed that they in fact control the usage of women, that anyone owning a woman does so only as a sublicense from their sovereign ownership of all women, and may proceed only in furtherance of the regulation they emitted as to how women may be used and may no
asciilifeform: as described in the footnotes of http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm
asciilifeform: this is not a necessary hypothesis.
asciilifeform: among the pua folks, this is known as 'shit test'
asciilifeform: t he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.'
asciilifeform: 'The real power, the power we have to fight for night and day, is not power over things, but over men.' He paused, and for a moment assumed again his air of a schoolmaster questioning a promising pupil: 'How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?' Winston thought. 'By making him suffer,' he said. 'Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure tha
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hanbot includes the news where he now plea guilty, also hard to pass up her particular style of condemnation of evil
trinque: and you know, knocked around by the legal system a bit
asciilifeform: but since it is here again, i will note that it is precisely the arbitrary cruelty that is the ~goal~ here.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281751 << iirc this was in the logz week or two ago...
asciilifeform: ftr i did not witness any of the latter personally.
asciilifeform: but in the willingness to pluck out the exceptional and hand'em over to apprentice under masters.
trinque: re: qntra what of the police officer's actively seeking to collect naked teen pix
asciilifeform: the key difference is not even, as popularly supposed, in the fundamentals (although to some extent this was true)
asciilifeform: education in su, at least in so far as it pertained to maths and the physical sciences, was most certainly not a feature of a 'make'em stupid' plan of whatever sort.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, education is rape.
mircea_popescu: all education is an exercise in rape. that it's done by the state just improves the odds of it being unpleasant,
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:28:37; thestringpuller: to change running process and storage in way that bitcoin client is validating invalid blocks...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281071 << why do you think this is either difficult or even rare on a vm ?!
asciilifeform: the western model of mass education, with the conscious goal of maximally intellectually crippling the victim ?
asciilifeform: or, possibly more to the point, why the escape from misery of the west is pretty much never into first-rate mathematics.
mircea_popescu: undrunk ru mathematician ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not as such. but have to consider why the escape was, at least in certain cases, into mathematics rather than drink
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:18:27; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281021 << it is necessary to somehow explain why virtually all of the mathematics worth anything whatsoever in 20th c. happened under the red flag
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281047 << because it was the one available escape from socialism ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski where are they listed ?
pete_dushenski: i wish 21 could be relied upon to publish sales data, which they aren't, or else i'd try to short the tards
mircea_popescu: and i gotta learn to form my ideas in subsecond rather than subminute intervals, or else i just repeat the damned log!
mircea_popescu: yeah, doubt the 1k a pop scenario is possible, amd never had good mb support.
asciilifeform: the cpu itself is (at this time) plentiful
BingoBoingo: Trying to take over the world?
pete_dushenski: for the completely ignorant...
pete_dushenski: which makes sense given that their parents are breathing down their necks 2' from the court
phf: pete_dushenski: right, according the wikipedia it's a series of lobs, followed by drop shot
phf: one side is doing the whole jump and direct hit, where's the other side counters equally strong, but then sneak lower energy response to the net. in the video chinese guy doesn't clear it though
pete_dushenski: phf: maybe you're refering to full court 'lobs' ? these'd be called 'clears' en anglais
mircea_popescu: as predicted by alf and others.
phf: pete_dushenski: i don't know any of the proper english terminology, but your video precisely illustrates my point
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 15:28:09; pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple."
mircea_popescu: actually the wall thing didn't have a [single] name but it was perfectly acceptable passtime for getting the players together for a game o' football.
cazalla: no ace king queen jack dunce then i guess as we did here
cazalla: mircea_popescu, the romanian handball is 5-6 squares with no wall or the shitty 1v1 or 2v2 players hit against the wall type of hand ball?
phf: the height of chic was to get an opponent into a dunking game, and then do a light drop right by the net. perfectly execute resulted in shuttle skirting the edge and dropping on the other side. not sure if that's properly legal though. many a games have been lost because somebody wanted to show off and ended up hitting the net on own side
mircea_popescu: drinking games mostly consist of "guess what article of clothing the boys are thinking about - if you guess right you gotta show it, if not take it off!"
mircea_popescu: drinking games are a diff story altogether.
trinque: bocce is in my mind the essential old people's backyard drinking game
phf: pete_dushenski: doubles look weak though, like they are playing tennis, wouldn't fly with our teachers, since you were going to get one at the net, once you started camping so far back
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so did americans, but it's not really sustainable for them ALL to get that pension they were promised. so they won't
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 14:57:28; pete_dushenski: ' mean to the people ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281026 << well of course ? i mean, they did pay into the scheme, neh ?
pete_dushenski: but really it's mostly the former, old ppl and small town folk
pete_dushenski: in canada, the equivalent to the 'sport for old ppl and chicks of third gender' is curling
cazalla: handball was boys only down under, cant ever recall seeing girls play but many competitive boys matches amongst all the grades
mircea_popescu: and the proper phraseology for a challenge, "hey, can you do this ?"
mircea_popescu: literally, the most common dismissal in kid circles was, "anyone could do that".
mircea_popescu: therefore undignified.
mircea_popescu: (i am not seriously proposing there's objective hierarchy to the respectability of sports, if that's not obvious. merely recording lived history)
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi_qpF1ClrQ << some doubles, about the level i played at in my prime
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mmg7PVJ3rg << for example (and ftr) here are a couple of the guys i used to play against and train with, and what high-level amateur singles badminton looks like in canada
mircea_popescu: honestly, most everyone was more open minded than romanians throughout forever. most hardline soviets in soviet union, would have hung nikita if possible after that thing. heck, ceausescu was trying to convince gorbacev of the errors of the past in 1987
phf: well, i didn't know anyone else playing badminton except our group, purely on account said father and his wife being some sort of ranked competing amateur level at some point of their lives. but i've never encountered the whole "badminton is not real sport" until i came to u.s.
mircea_popescu: (this is what you get when the state embraces sports and you get mandatory sport in school and whatnot)
mircea_popescu: right, so volleyball and handball were the faggoty sports in that it's what the girls (and some guys) did. whereas you were supposed to play football like god intended, or MAYBE basketball. badminton was literally, healthclub fare, for old people and chicks of the third gender.
mircea_popescu: as far as anyone could imagine, russia was going the way of ex euro colonies in africa.
mircea_popescu: phf well they weren't priceless antiques yet. and i doubt many people seriously saw a putin future back then.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't even gay, like volley or what's that other thing, minisoccer with hands ?
pete_dushenski: the backyard sorta game that most everyone knows is exactly this
phf: i've not seen a chinese export, until the first wave of chelnok came back with bag full of stuff from turkey (traded as i recently discovered for priceless pre-soviet antiques for pennies)
pete_dushenski: they're around $3 a pop
pete_dushenski: i guarantee that there were private clubs in soviet russia that had feather shuttles
pete_dushenski: when i was in china, the giant stadiums full of badminton players, all of whom i coulda mopped the floor with, used... plastic.
mircea_popescu: romania was awash in chinese exports. including the "drawing sets" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: phf wut srsly ? i take it YOUR soviet state wasn't friends with china back then huh ?
phf: pete_dushenski: hard to source that sort of stuff in the middle of nowhere, by the time we would even consider destroying a shuttle, i'd be shredded beyond any sort of reasonable aerodynamic characteristics
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: real men dance on hot coals with other real men on their shoulders. in a blizzard.
mircea_popescu: real men skinnydip in the marian trench. DURING SHARK SEASON ONLY.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 22:55:27; mircea_popescu: lol im sure the "blue" is purely concindental. not like trying to pretend it's not piss.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281372 << not a piss consideration. entirely germany's 'green but not green so then blue' branding
mircea_popescu: two or three more twists of the difficulty knob, you'll be almost at the level of archeologists trying to read some stone they found.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: [...] it isn't. but it doesn't help that my translation efforts are ~starting~ with post-phd-level writings THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCENTS << he has a point there lol.
pete_dushenski: isn't it incredible the hoops that plastic-badge-loving maroons will jump through ?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, sure i read even heimlich stopped promoting the heimlich at some point
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 22:53:12; *: BingoBoingo still astounded that if one wants a new diesel vehicle thanks to the EU it will refuse to run if you don't fill up a second tank with pisstein (urea)
BingoBoingo: Apparently the New York Times endorses untrained bystanders doing cric because 'Murica is now too fat for the heimlich http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/14/what-comes-after-the-heimlich-maneuver/?smid=tw-nytimeswell&smtyp=cur&_r=0
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281563 << ugh. plastic badminton shuttles. for the birds !
asciilifeform: they worked great.
asciilifeform: i did the most ordinary fuses - rope soaked in saltpetre.
phf: we actually did have fuse at some point. one of the kids had one of those "engineer" fathers, who, i remember gave us, of note, soviet spectrum knockoff, rc plane engines of various sizes. he's also the one who converted part of forest glade into a "proper" badminton field, and then, with his wife as a partner, proceeded to regularly slaughter us in regular tournament matches
mircea_popescu: (you just used the injection hole as a starter)
mircea_popescu: phf what fuse, stick a length of shoelace in there, good to go.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3lv58i/qntra_on_ethereum_vs_bitcoinxt/ << which one of you statist shills came up with the name.
phf: oh man ping pong balls the versatile weapon manufacturing device, i'm surprised they are not yet banned in u.s. stores. make a small hole, fill it with stuff, attach a fuse
asciilifeform: i've often wondered if a thermite-type reaction could be carried on in a liquid.
phf: BingoBoingo: we've used all kinds of stuff during childhood experiments. motor oil, tar (there was plenty of that in the country house area), bicycle tire shavings
asciilifeform: the brits, in their typical 'if a thing is good, 100x of it is 100x better,' built a flamethrowing tank.
asciilifeform: burn out the air.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc they used straight kerosene in ru, in those days.
mircea_popescu: but on the metric he proposes, he;'s wrong.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform except they're not low tech at all. heck, fuel bombs are today state of the art even. << Only because enviro-frauds keep nuclear shaming
mircea_popescu: "the amount of engineering effort that went into these machines far outweighs what you might get in a modern computer, and thats something i dont think the world will ever see again" << he's wrong, fwiw. the amount of competent work that went into art as the empire got fucked in the ass exceeded the amount before.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except they're not low tech at all. heck, fuel bombs are today state of the art even.
mircea_popescu: of fucking course it went to shit soon thereafter.
mircea_popescu: the whole reason we EVEN THINK of software as user-serviceable is this.
mircea_popescu: " there was also a demand for systems that could be easily introspected, debugged, and changed by individual engineers, which was something mainframes couldnt easily do as one mistake by one engineer could bring down a system serving dozens" <<< since we're doing the entire underappreciated point thing.
asciilifeform: the spout turned into something disguised as approximately a normal rifle,
asciilifeform: when ww2 started, state of the art was to have 'pilot light'
phf: so according to the website, "Officially approved fuels: Gasoline (unleaded), gasoline-diesel mixture, alcohol." and "tilizes a high pressure electric fuel pump, powered by a 3S lithium-polymer battery typically used in R/C aircraft"
mircea_popescu: mmm, the way that ONE trail looked to me was, she's firing it at a puddle of flammable something
phf: punkman: yeah, i've realised that i was wrong after seeing little trails on the ground
mircea_popescu: you want the flame to be HEAVY so you can put it on the enemy from under cover by shooting an arc
mircea_popescu: two problems : the flame is "light" so it flies off and you can't get it ON things.
asciilifeform: ed to see them go out of his basement. there was a lot of equipment besides the lisp machines.'
asciilifeform: 'the situation was as follows: an older eccentric millionaire type had lots of this equipment rotting in his basement from years past. it needed to go, and he didnt care much about scoring big for it. the people paying the market price for all this stuff would certainly mistreat it as theyd just flip them to profit. he wanted to see them go into loving hands who would restore them and treat them properly, but mostly want
asciilifeform: cazalla: i have the 3620 (first photo)
hanbot: i've got a fever, and the only prescription is moar dakka.
mircea_popescu: i gotta teach her how to work the backpack flamethrower.
mircea_popescu: she fucking shoo'd a political campaign away from the fucking downtown landmark!
mircea_popescu: for maybe five minutes. and then left.
mircea_popescu: so she went down there and they stopped. and then... were quiet for like... ten minutes.
mircea_popescu: so dumbass "political campaign" for some twerp here tried to have a huge rally (which is how i woke up, fucking drummers). but it's been raining, and nobody gives a shit about their crap, so they took refuge under a huge awning and there they've been, playing this inept 2 minute political soundclip (lo que la gente quiere, blabla fuckhead rodrgues) etc. this for a while, until
mircea_popescu: it has all the symptoms of childrearing apparatus gone berserk.
mircea_popescu: it's a great thing. the main by-product of the knitting culture. little clothes made to measure by bored old women for things like teapots.
asciilifeform: just now saw it for the first time
asciilifeform: to the point that if i travel for week+ and come home, it knocks me over nearly
mircea_popescu: ("smells of poor people" is in no small part ABSENCE. "intellectuals" are used to the mild allergenic reaction of paper dust mites + old ink smell in trace amounts. because 5k books around.)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck said "honey, she's too dumb for you and her house smells of poor people" the past decade.
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid, the #1 question hopeful spouse had to handle with the fambly was "are they smart enough"
mircea_popescu: in the 60s they didn't even realise their own children will be marrying into illiterate for lack of alternative.
mircea_popescu: in the 60s ?
asciilifeform: the other thing that folks often forget is that neither nelson nor anybody else seriously expected illiterate derps to get their hands on the machines
mircea_popescu: all that shit re culture and whatnot, all the pretense of wikipedia to relevance, the whole kaboodle : an overstated maximal output of an optimistic evaluation of a technological base that a) never actually existed in fact and b) has meanwhile been substituted by a provably worse alternative IN ALL THE POINTS
asciilifeform: the micropayment thing has to be taken in context. it was 1960s and his vision was arguably an improvement of 'if you want to make money from thinking, have a job in usg academia'
mircea_popescu: hint : the "expectations" about "what the internet is" which were build in the 90s by people about as informed or inclined to think as the current "blockchain technologies" crowd, are predicated on a MAXIMAL EXTENSION of an optimal ideal nelsonian network.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, yes, link rot and no bijection. who the fuck wants this piece of shit.
mircea_popescu: (not for the reason he cites, or at least not exactly, he fails to understand the deep rpoblems with "rights management", (which are what "version management" is in an edulcorated form)
asciilifeform owns pretty much the whole of nelson's collected output, on dead tree
mircea_popescu: anyway. if this works so well, i guess we need to sean more of sa then ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is stolfi and who the fuck cares about his bizarro cover-up for his own retirement.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the ever living fuck.
mircea_popescu: "No, you pedo-peso hoarding little shit lizard. One of your sociopathic free-market libertarian brethren took it upon themselves to threaten a real person and people around them in their place of work making them genuinely fearful."